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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: 321BAR on March 22, 2010, 08:53:53 AM
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I KNOW I KNOW... I'm gonna get abused and annaihilated for this but perk that dang pony D :aok . No im not whining bout dieing too many times by it etc cuz i fly the pony alot too... just nailed a good 11 before dieing today alone and thats why i think the new uber pony should get a small amount of perks. maybe 3 max. suggestion only cuz ill take it either way
edit: NO i will not take it either way THAT way! haha
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Nope.
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Id rather see the spit perked....but that's a diff thread :bolt:
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Id rather see the spit perked....but that's a diff thread :bolt:
Nope. Awesome 2 in one thread... :rolleyes:
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Why dose the pony D need to be perk same to the spit 16.
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I KNOW I KNOW... I'm gonna get abused and annaihilated for this but perk that dang pony D :aok . No im not whining bout dieing too many times by it etc cuz i fly the pony alot too... just nailed a good 11 before dieing today alone and thats why i think the new uber pony should get a small amount of perks. maybe 3 max. suggestion only cuz ill take it either way
edit: NO i will not take it either way THAT way! haha
You sure this is about perking the 51D, or is this you wanting to tell everyone you got 11 kills in one? ;)
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You sure this is about perking the 51D, or is this you wanting to tell everyone you got 11 kills in one? ;)
Speaking of which, the Stats page says the most kills 321bar has in one week (with 51D) is 10.
Did your sortie somehow take several days?
BTW, I once got 10 kills in a sortie flying the P-40E but I never came here to tell everyone. Oops - I just did. :)
Perk the P-40!
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I KNOW I KNOW... I'm gonna get abused and annaihilated for this but perk that dang pony D :aok . No im not whining bout dieing too many times by it etc cuz i fly the pony alot too... just nailed a good 11 before dieing today alone and thats why i think the new uber pony should get a small amount of perks. maybe 3 max. suggestion only cuz ill take it either way
edit: NO i will not take it either way THAT way! haha
no :D
Id rather see the spit perked....but that's a diff thread :bolt:
still no :devil
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Speaking of which, the Stats page says the most kills 321bar has in one week (with 51D) is 10.
Did your sortie somehow take several days?Well this has nothing to do about the tread but where do you find the stat page that tells you that?
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Aces High home page - Community/Scores and Stats/Pilot Score. Type in 321bar in the empty box (or any other player) and Late War Tour Tour 122. Scroll down, then click on "Kills" at the bottom left. That gives a breakdown of your kills acheived per week.
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dude dont perk the ponies, actually give them more ammo, I feel embarrassed when they try to bnz my spit and they end up running out of ammo and have to run back to momma. they're so fun to kill when they try to turn with a spit. I am perfecting this system I have so I can get grizz's 262, and I am practicing on the ponies and p47's :cool:.
semp
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thats why i think the new uber pony should get a small amount of perks. maybe 3 max. suggestion only cuz ill take it either way
edit: NO i will not take it either way THAT way! haha
I didn't know it had changed. It used to be at 7eny. It recently got dropped to 5.
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I KNOW I KNOW... I'm gonna get abused and annaihilated for this but perk that dang pony D :aok . No im not whining bout dieing too many times by it etc cuz i fly the pony alot too... just nailed a good 11 before dieing today alone and thats why i think the new uber pony should get a small amount of perks. maybe 3 max. suggestion only cuz ill take it either way
edit: NO i will not take it either way THAT way! haha
Yes, well you see, NO!!!!!!!. Why the HELL would you want to perk the P-51D? I've beaten an average P-51 pilot while in a P-51B. I've beaten 3 at once as a matter of fact. If I can accomplish that, then why is it in need of perkage?
Speaking of which, the Stats page says the most kills 321bar has in one week (with 51D) is 10.
Did your sortie somehow take several days?
Sortie started at 11:59:59 PM Sat, and ended at 12:00:01 AM Sun. He just got lucky enough to up as the furballers did a mass lawndart thing on him. Then seeing the "System: You shot down Caldera #11", he decided to land for the perks and the praise.
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Speaking of which, the Stats page says the most kills 321bar has in one week (with 51D) is 10.
Did your sortie somehow take several days?
BTW, I once got 10 kills in a sortie flying the P-40E but I never came here to tell everyone. Oops - I just did. :)
Perk the P-40!
umm im sorry but days 22-28 have 21 kills there man. and also i exaggerated :lol caught red handed only 8 + 3 assists. never landed accidentally bailed
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Perk the P-40!
OMG, YES!
That ride is a beast! ;)
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You sure this is about perking the 51D, or is this you wanting to tell everyone you got 11 kills in one? ;)
haha ik i put that there :D but i only used that as an example of how good it is. any good pilot can fly the P51D and kill at least 3 and land them... even the F4U4 needs to be learned some before being effective. and it outflies the Spit14. idk if the 14 flies better at uber alt though. and yes the ponyd is outclimbed by the 109k still but it out runs the 109k easily.
dude dont perk the ponies, actually give them more ammo, I feel embarrassed when they try to bnz my spit and they end up running out of ammo and have to run back to momma. they're so fun to kill when they try to turn with a spit. I am perfecting this system I have so I can get grizz's 262, and I am practicing on the ponies and p47's :cool:.
semp
heres ONE thing thats correct in stats for me... ive shot more spitIXs down than any other plane :rofl :rofl :rofl noobs cant fly the pony well but even avg pilots know how to fly it... and all those kills this week in the P51 in my stats is for the last two days only (22nd-28th : its only the 23rd and its 1:38AM EST) therefore the P51 gave me 21 kills yesterday alone... it also says i got only 9 deaths in a pony D in the entire month. 29 kills 21 of which were yesterday and 9 deaths. says something when the pilot up till yesterday stuck with zeros huh? :headscratch: like i said idc if we perk the pony cuz ill love killing in it forever but give that a thought.
AND Pony vs Temp. check the charts. only difference tween the temp and pony is one has cannon yet the temps got a huge perk value. In fact the P51D over 20k feet out flies the tempest
http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html
http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html
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scratch what i said bout the pony outrunning the 109K :uhoh 109K out does the ponyD if wep is on at any alt. without wep the 109K is very sluggish and the 109K has a higher ceiling by a good 3 thousand. and while im on the german planes. why did they unperk the Ta152 years ago? it also out flies the tempest at alt over 25k on military power alone and outflies the pony and the Ta152 is a great match Vs the spitXIV at alt
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My opinion is that any talk of perking something like the P-51D or Spitfire Mk XVI is invalid unless it includes perking all the other late war fighters with them. Go ahead and perk those two, but perk the La-7, Yak-9U, N1K2-J, Ki-84, P-38L, P-47D-40, P-47M, P-47N, F4U-1D, F6F-5, Typhoon, Fw190D-9, Ta152H-1, Bf109G-14 and Bf109K-4 with them.
Of course, that pushes us back towards a mid-war environment, which I am all for personally. It also would mean that every country, other than Italy which was knocked out early, would have perk planes.
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why did they unperk the Ta152 years ago? it also out flies the tempest at alt over 25k on military power alone and outflies the pony and the Ta152 is a great match Vs the spitXIV at alt
Because HTC felt that a free 152 would have no unbalancing effect? ;)
Also... how many fights do you have @ 25k? And is the Tempest the main enemy of the 152 at that altitude?
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Because HTC felt that a free 152 would have no unbalancing effect? ;)
Also... how many fights do you have @ 25k? And is the Tempest the main enemy of the 152 at that altitude?
yeah that first half hit me right when you said it. every time i think of perking planes its the idea that they are too good to let fly always. but this would also mean the unperking of the spitXIV though lusche because they are a good fighting match at that alt and are still formidable foes at lower alts...
My opinion is that any talk of perking something like the P-51D or Spitfire Mk XVI is invalid unless it includes perking all the other late war fighters with them. Go ahead and perk those two, but perk the La-7, Yak-9U, N1K2-J, Ki-84, P-38L, P-47D-40, P-47M, P-47N, F4U-1D, F6F-5, Typhoon, Fw190D-9, Ta152H-1, Bf109G-14 and Bf109K-4 with them.
Of course, that pushes us back towards a mid-war environment, which I am all for personally. It also would mean that every country, other than Italy which was knocked out early, would have perk planes.
and karnak haha dont get me started. la-7 cant fly well over 15k, yak9u the opposite, n1k2-J they toned down, ki84 is slow and can be easily out maneuvered, p38L is hard to fly if you dont understand how to, P47D40? if anything the M yet still out flown by a few planes and the N is less of a fighter than the M, really? the F4U1D and the F6F5? and the typhy? why the D9? 152 already talked about, the G14 is sluggish compared to ALOT of other planes. in fact the only two here that are even considered good enough to perk are the 152 (again) and the 109K4 which only has one low ammo cannon and half the 109K pilots cant even hit with that watermelon. Awww man.... i said i wouldn't start.... :rolleyes: perk my zero and youll have a fighting chance :)
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Crazy talk, I tells ya, crazy talk.
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nah phatzo, i knew id be basically raped for starting this and like i said it doesnt annoy me that any of these listed arent perked. im just thinking that the P51D is that good that it should be perked up a point or 2 like the T34/85 the M4 and Spit XIV are. i even think the tempest should have less perks but thats just me
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Spit9 = 12 eny
F4U1a = 10 eny
P38J = 15(if its not already)eny
Ta152= 20 eny
Hurri2c=10eny
Some changes Id like to see before we perk the Pony or spit 16.
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nah phatzo, i knew id be basically raped for starting this and like i said it doesnt annoy me that any of these listed arent perked. im just thinking that the P51D is that good that it should be perked up a point or 2 like the T34/85 the M4 and Spit XIV are. i even think the tempest should have less perks but thats just me
How about .0001 perks
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umm im sorry but days 22-28 have 21 kills there man. and also i exaggerated :lol caught red handed only 8 + 3 assists. never landed accidentally bailed
I need glasses. :o
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If you perked the training planes, how would the new up starts get training? :headscratch: No to perking the P51D
I voted :aok ^sig material :D
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321BAR,
I don't really agree with your assessments, but the main one I'd comment on is the one about not being good above 15k. By far the most important altitude band to have good performance in is 0-10k, 10-20k isn't bad to have and above that is almost useless in the AH MA where any perk discussion is relevant. It is one of the main reasons the Spit XIV is so useless. The Spit XVI is almost as fast and more maneuverable at the altitude bands that actually count, so who cares that the Spit XIV is 50mph faster at 25k?
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so who cares that the Spit XIV is 50mph faster at 25k?
probably chalenge.
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I need glasses. :o
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POST TIMES... all i gotta say... that ten was at 7am EST on the 22nd. the 21 or whatever i said was at 1am on the 23rd. i flew it a few times in the morning and then 3-4 more flights around 8:30pm on on the 22. then i just went to check stats at 1am
321BAR,
I don't really agree with your assessments, but the main one I'd comment on is the one about not being good above 15k. By far the most important altitude band to have good performance in is 0-10k, 10-20k isn't bad to have and above that is almost useless in the AH MA where any perk discussion is relevant. It is one of the main reasons the Spit XIV is so useless. The Spit XVI is almost as fast and more maneuverable at the altitude bands that actually count, so who cares that the Spit XIV is 50mph faster at 25k?
the assesments are accurate enough to say that almost none of them even come close to perk level. and like i said idc if we perk the pony. im just arguing for it. but the 50mph can mean the edge in some fights. that extra 100yd closing you need to get the shot off in a climb. that 50mph can mean the difference between winning and losing a fight. and if you got a ponyD at alt over a la-7 at 20k feet and the la-7 is at 19k. that 50mph may mean alot for a pony. (pony/la7 example only...doesnt have to be accurate to get the point across)
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Well, I remember laboriously dragging an La-7 up to 25k in a Spit XIV so I could play with him at altitude, he complied because he wanted to bag the perk plane (Spit XIV was 60 perks back then). Once up there I turned and engaged. I got one pass and one pass only as he realized how absolutely outclassed he was at that altitude and put the nose down and escaped. I hit him with a single 20mm or single .303 round at about 600 yards as he dove away from me.
Without the streams of bombers at high altitude to bring the fights up high, I am really unimpressed with the utility of an aircraft's performance above 15k in the AH MA.
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yesterday and today alone i got into at least 5 fights above 15k
edit: mainly a picker that decided to do what i wanted and we engaged each other picker to picker
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I can see it now.
New player loads up AH for the first time. Waits through the loading screen eager to fly possibly the most popular and iconic American aircraft of all time against real people. Gets online and finds it's going to take them over a month to get a ride in a P51D. Cancels account on day two after being picked repeatedly by P51Ds. HTC lose money.
never gunna happen :aok
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probably.
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Man makes a rather valid point........... :salute
New player loads up AH for the first time. Waits through the loading screen eager to fly possibly the most popular and iconic American aircraft of all time against real people. Gets online and finds it's going to take them over a month to get a ride in a P51D. Cancels account on day two after being picked repeatedly by P51Ds. HTC lose money.
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I can see it now.
New player loads up AH for the first time. Waits through the loading screen eager to fly possibly the most popular and iconic American aircraft of all time against real people. Gets online and finds it's going to take them over a month to get a ride in a P51D. Cancels account on day two after being picked repeatedly by P51Ds. HTC lose money.
never gunna happen :aok
May be. I would think that the spit would be the most popular.
Anyway, I am still waiting for somebody telling me why the p-51D should be perk? And to be honest, i think the 262 should be un-perked. The only thing that it has is speed if not in turn fight. Once it slows down, it is a easy target and the gun package may be deadly but slow recoil. From what i seen, there are a dozen or so people who can fly the hell out of it. It is not easy going for a shot at high speeds.
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And to be honest, i think the 262 should be un-perked. The only thing that it has is speed if not in turn fight. Once it slows down, it is a easy target and the gun package may be deadly but slow recoil. From what i seen, there are a dozen or so people who can fly the hell out of it. It is not easy going for a shot at high speeds.
And if he doesn't slows down, there is nothing you can do about that jet buzzing around everywhere with an armament bar none.
It would be a jet arena in very short time.
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And if he doesn't slows down, there is nothing you can do about that jet buzzing around everywhere with an armament bar none.
It would be a jet arena in very short time.
Yea, but there are a lot, most of the people on AH, that can not fly the 262 correctly. All they will do is BnZ and it is not easy to hit a target going 400 mph.
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Yea, but there are a lot, most of the people on AH, that can not fly the 262 correctly. All they will do is BnZ and it is not easy to hit a target going 400 mph.
The times when AH has had the Me262 free it is 50% jets. The fact that it is common forces other people into just to contest with it, making it more common, requiring more people to pick it to have a chance.
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Yea, but there are a lot, most of the people on AH, that can not fly the 262 correctly. All they will do is BnZ and it is not easy to hit a target going 400 mph.
You don't need to fly the 262 absolutely "correctly" to make it an annoyance.
People will chose it for it's speed. And once there is a certain number if 262 in the area, everyone else flying a prop plane is quickly pressed into a purely reactive role. To fight a gaggle of 262's you need to fly a 262 yourself because of the huge speed discrepancy.
And I'm not even talking about what free 262's would mean for bombers...
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Yea, but there are a lot, most of the people on AH, that can not fly the 262 correctly. All they will do is BnZ and it is not easy to hit a target going 400 mph.
And if it doesn't cost them anything to crash it repeatedly, they will fly it as much as they do the Spits and Ponies. Sooner or later they will get to the point where they will be good enough to really annoy... No thanks, 3 or 4 at a time is more than enough...
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cuz ill take it either way
I've heard that about you. Ack-Ack might be interested... if you don't mind using plenty of lotion.
Now, don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with batting from the other side of the plate now and again - for guys like you. I just question using this bbs as a place to do your cruising (or whatever it is you guys call it these days - and I mean that only in the most complimentary way). I mean. do you really want to roll out the brown carpet to the likes of these? First, given their high level of self-regard, you know that they're only going to want to talk about themselves all night. Second, when things get to things, well, computer gamers don't exactly have a reputation for stellar play in THAT arena, if you follow.
Now, Bar, I understand your need for expression even as I disdain the, how you say, "trouser piloting" for myself. I don't think my wife would like it and I'm a bit, uh, congenitally damage-prone for that kind of thing, but, as they say about the type, ellos tienen que jugar. However, I want to remind you: BE SAFE. This is more important if you're playing catcher during your, to coin a phrase, "inside baseball" games.
I don't want to pry but it does raise the question - when you engage in this type of activity, are you kicking or receiving? I'm thinking the WWI crowd might want to know, given that they're notoriously biplane-curious.
As for the rest of you, lock it up if you don't want to lose it. There appears to be a turd-burglar in the house.
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You don't need to fly the 262 absolutely "correctly" to make it an annoyance.
People will chose it for it's speed. And once there is a certain number if 262 in the area, everyone else flying a prop plane is quickly pressed into a purely reactive role. To fight a gaggle of 262's you need to fly a 262 yourself because of the huge speed discrepancy.
And I'm not even talking about what free 262's would mean for bombers...
forget bombers my fighter would be grounded like ones in the 2nd iraq war out of fear of dieing
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LETS NOT perk the pony
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LETS NOT perk the pony
Because you cant fly anything else yet? :aok
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I need glasses. :o
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Pwned.
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Because you cant fly anything else yet? :aok
no, because I can fly it with skill, like the jug, 38, and buffs
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no, because I can fly it with skill, like the jug, 38, and buffs
I doubt it.
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I doubt it.
(insert pounding head against wall here)
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The guy with the funny name is about to tell us how he's been flying for years and just joined the forums 3 weeks ago...............
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(insert pounding head against wall here)
Werent you the guy that called AKAK out to the DA, lost, then called him a cheater when owned?
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Dude ive flown MSFS 10 for 3 years now
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Dude ive flown MSFS 10 for 3 years now
I invited a local bloke to try out AHII that had been flying MSFS for years and he couldn't even get a b17 off the ground. I dont know what he was doing wrong and he just got real impatient with AHII and quit.
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I still say dont perk the pony. or just perk the b model
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no, because I can fly it with skill, like the jug, 38, and buffs
Oh really? As someone that has seen your flying first hand, I can clearly say with absolute certainty that skill is something you do not possess. When you are barely able to keep your plane flying and have absolutely zero knowledge of basic flight maneuvers (BFM), let alone air combat maneuvers (ACM), it's impossible to declare that you can fly any of the planes you've mentioned with any skill.
Instead of looking for other reasons why you got your bellybutton handed back to you on a silver platter or refusing to listen to advice because you think you can fly X plane with skill, swallow your ego and seek help of a trainer and listen to the advice being given. The advice being given for the most part are from other players with far more experience and skill than you possess. It's not smart to ignore what has been given to you if you wish to advance beyond the stage of baby harp seal.
ack-ack
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I still say dont perk the pony. or just perk the b model
Yeah perk the B model instead :rolleyes:
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I still say dont perk the pony. or just perk the b model
This is a statement that again shows that 1) you don't have any skill (asking to perk a mid-war plane like the B Mustang?) 2) you don't know what you're talking about 3) have no knowledge of any of the planes in game.
ack-ack
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no, because I can fly it with skill, like the jug, 38, and buffs
You have 7 kills in 38 and 53 deaths, only 1 kill in a 51 and 47. :rolleyes:
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You have 7 kills in 38 and 53 deaths, only 1 kill in a 51 and 47. :rolleyes:
Especially compared to someone that has 124 kills with only 23 deaths in a P-38.
ack-ack
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Especially compared to someone that has 124 kills with only 23 deaths in a P-38.
ack-ack
like who?
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like who?
you know him as Daddy :D
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no, because I can fly it with skill, like the jug, 38, and buffs
You have 7 kills in 38 and 53 deaths
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my dad couldnt even start the engines of one of these birds. what about deperking the 262 and 163
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my dad couldnt even start the engines of one of these birds. what about deperking the 262 and 163
See sig quote.
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See sig quote.
how about not
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my dad couldnt even start the engines of one of these birds. what about deperking the 262 and 163
You barely can do the same, so I wouldn't laugh at your dad.
The Me 262 and Me 163 are already perked.
like who?
Off the top of my head...the guy that was clubbing a baby seal in the DA on Saturday.
ack-ack
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You barely can do the same, so I wouldn't laugh at your dad.
The Me 262 and Me 163 are already perked.
Off the top of my head...the guy that was clubbing a baby seal in the DA on Saturday.
ack-ack
I suggested removing the perks from those 2 planes
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I suggested removing the perks from those 2 planes
My mistake. However, it does lead to the question as to why you think these two planes should have the perks removed? Do you know why planes are perked in the first place?
ack-ack
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not really. The 163 is not usable on any field, 262 cannot carry bombs, and 234 dont have useful guns for defense
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not really. The 163 is not usable on any field, 262 cannot carry bombs, and 234 dont have useful guns for defense
If you, in fact, had any "skill" you'd know why they are perked without even having to fly them.
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then explain why the tempest is perked
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Speed.
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whish is ofset by the lack of control it has
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whish is ofset by the lack of control it has
Not even remotely. You lack "skill" and thus lack an appreciation of the utility speed and firepower bring to the table.
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ok watch the part in my video where my temp loses control, then tell me what happened
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Which video would that be? I don't have time to search the forums for it.
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the one in my duel with ackack thread in the video section
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not really. The 163 is not usable on any field, 262 cannot carry bombs, and 234 dont have useful guns for defense
Then why ask for a plane to be perked or unperked if you don't know why they're perked in the first place?
The Me 163 is only available at the base that is closest to your country's HQ. The Me 262A-1 was a fighter, the Me 262A-2 was the bomber variant that was able to carry bombs. It's up to you to guess which one we have in game. The Ar 234 has a 20mm gun in the tail for defense. Frankly, that's all it needs as it's a jet and faster than any prop plane in the game.
ack-ack
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if thats the only place the 163 is avalible, why is it perked?
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ok watch the part in my video where my temp loses control, then tell me what happened
It has been explained to you already numerous times why you kept on losing control in every plane you flew. You are too ham fisted on the controls and you do not have a grasp at all of BFM. This is causing you to pull hard on the stick when you try and maneuver and you are entering into an accelerated stall which then leads you to enter into a spin. Watch the films again and you'll see the reason why. I even explained it to you during our duels and explained to you what that buzzing sound was that you hear each time you depart. The buzzer isn't because your plane is about to break up, it's buzzing because you're about to enter into a stall.
Your absolute failure to take any advice or listen to anyone that has tried to explain why you can't seem to fly without crashing is what is causing people to get frustrated with you and stop offering any advice. If you're not going to follow anyone's advice or help, then please, stop wasting our time asking for something that you have no intention of listening to. If you continue to take the course you're taking, then here is my final bit of advice...enjoy being nothing more than cannon fodder because you will not advance beyond being nothing more than a flying target drone.
ack-ack
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the one in my duel with ackack thread in the video section
Waited 5 minutes, download won't start.
I'll toss a guess out that you pulled back to hard and exceeded the maximum angle of attack the Tempest could do, thus entering an accelerated stall. Alternatively, you stalled it out going over the top and entered a flat spin from which you were unable to recover before hitting the ground.
I am making wild guesses here as you didn't say anything about the loss of control you experienced.
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Waited 5 minutes, download won't start.
I'll toss a guess out that you pulled back to hard and exceeded the maximum angle of attack the Tempest could do, thus entering an accelerated stall. Alternatively, you stalled it out going over the top and entered a flat spin from which you were unable to recover before hitting the ground.
I am making wild guesses here as you didn't say anything about the loss of control you experienced.
all i did was raise the gear and it dropped like a stone
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Waited 5 minutes, download won't start.
I'll toss a guess out that you pulled back to hard and exceeded the maximum angle of attack the Tempest could do, thus entering an accelerated stall. Alternatively, you stalled it out going over the top and entered a flat spin from which you were unable to recover before hitting the ground.
I am making wild guesses here as you didn't say anything about the loss of control you experienced.
You hit it on the nail with the accelerated stall. The only fights he didn't stall out in were the ones where I shot him down before he could or when he HO'd me while I was in a D.VII and he was in a P-38L. Actually, I think he stalled and spun in right after the HO on that one too.
all i did was raise the gear and it dropped like a stone
Don't lie.
Raising gear is not going to cause you to enter into an accelerated stall and then into a spin. Let me make that a little more clear...anyone with even the most minute amount of skill will not enter into an accelerated stall and then into a spin by raising their landing gear.
It has already been explained why this happens to you.
ack-ack
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You hit it on the nail with the accelerated stall. The only fights he didn't stall out in were the ones where I shot him down before he could or when he HO'd me while I was in a D.VII and he was in a P-38L. Actually, I think he stalled and spun in right after the HO on that one too.
Don't lie.
Raising gear is not going to cause you to enter into an accelerated stall and then into a spin. Let me make that a little more clear...anyone with even the most minute amount of skill will not enter into an accelerated stall and then into a spin by raising their landing gear.
It has already been explained why this happens to you.
ack-ack
did you see that part in my video?
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did you see that part in my video?
Dude, I was in the other plane in that duel. I know exactly why you stalled and spun in and it had nothing to do with your landing gear. Honestly, a blind man could have figured it out, don't see why it's so hard for you to understand why.
ack-ack
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Dude, I was in the other plane in that duel. I know exactly why you stalled and spun in and it had nothing to do with your landing gear. Honestly, a blind man could have figured it out, don't see why it's so hard for you to understand why.
ack-ack
you werent even in visual range when I attempted to fly the temp
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you werent even in visual range when I attempted to fly the temp
Jeebus...you merged with me while you were flying a Tempest and immediately entered into an accelerated stall and into an unrecoverable (well, unrecoverable for someone that doesn't know how to fly) spin immediately after your HO merge.
Just click on the thumbnail to see the full image of the exact moment you entered into an accelerated stall and spin.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/Ack-Ack/th_KCDblowsitinTempest.jpg) (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/Ack-Ack/KCDblowsitinTempest.jpg?t=1269488402)
As I mentioned awhile back, some of us have been doing this longer than you've been alive. We know what we're talking about.
ack-ack
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:rofl You flew against him in that thing? :salute
or when he HO'd me while I was in a D.VII and he was in a P-38L.
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Pwned.
stodd read my statement later on. DEpwnd :D
:rofl :rofl
Then why ask for a plane to be perked or unperked if you don't know why they're perked in the first place?
The Me 163 is only available at the base that is closest to your country's HQ. The Me 262A-1 was a fighter, the Me 262A-2 was the bomber variant that was able to carry bombs. It's up to you to guess which one we have in game. The Ar 234 has a 20mm gun in the tail for defense. Frankly, that's all it needs as it's a jet and faster than any prop plane in the game.
ack-ack
It has been explained to you already numerous times why you kept on losing control in every plane you flew. You are too ham fisted on the controls and you do not have a grasp at all of BFM. This is causing you to pull hard on the stick when you try and maneuver and you are entering into an accelerated stall which then leads you to enter into a spin. Watch the films again and you'll see the reason why. I even explained it to you during our duels and explained to you what that buzzing sound was that you hear each time you depart. The buzzer isn't because your plane is about to break up, it's buzzing because you're about to enter into a stall.
Your absolute failure to take any advice or listen to anyone that has tried to explain why you can't seem to fly without crashing is what is causing people to get frustrated with you and stop offering any advice. If you're not going to follow anyone's advice or help, then please, stop wasting our time asking for something that you have no intention of listening to. If you continue to take the course you're taking, then here is my final bit of advice...enjoy being nothing more than cannon fodder because you will not advance beyond being nothing more than a flying target drone.
ack-ack
You hit it on the nail with the accelerated stall. The only fights he didn't stall out in were the ones where I shot him down before he could or when he HO'd me while I was in a D.VII and he was in a P-38L. Actually, I think he stalled and spun in right after the HO on that one too.
Don't lie.
Raising gear is not going to cause you to enter into an accelerated stall and then into a spin. Let me make that a little more clear...anyone with even the most minute amount of skill will not enter into an accelerated stall and then into a spin by raising their landing gear.
It has already been explained why this happens to you.
ack-ack
:rofl :rofl I LOVE IT! this thread went from ripping on me for fun to the absolute slaughter of kingcobradude in less than 3 pages! :rofl
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He totally asked for it.......... You.... You're just thinking outside the box..... :aok But that box is very flammable. :x
stodd read my statement later on. DEpwnd :D
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl I LOVE IT! this thread went from ripping on me for fun to the absolute slaughter of kingcobradude in less than 3 pages! :rofl
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The BBS is becoming more fun than the game :cheers: to kingcobradude and to some extent 321BAR and a big :cheers: :old: :joystick: to AKAK for his patience and very entertaining posts on his exploits in ejamacation. :rock
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The BBS is becoming more fun than the game :cheers: to kingcobradude and to some extent 321BAR and a big :cheers: :old: :joystick: to AKAK for his patience and very entertaining posts on his exploits in ejamacation. :rock
if only to some extent then maybe i can start a post up about deperking the 163 or constantly argue to unperk the tempest??!?! :rofl
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No friggin kidding....... <S> That film is over an hour...... And I'd swear they only dueled 5 times. :x
to AKAK for his patience.....
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stodd read my statement later on. DEpwnd :D
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl I LOVE IT! this thread went from ripping on me for fun to the absolute slaughter of kingcobradude in less than 3 pages! :rofl
This just demonstrates, BAR, the benefit of being intelligent enough to NOT dignify somebody's (no idea who would do such a thing) juvenile and innuendo-laden jest.
You pass the wisdom, if not the practical intelligence (hard to differentiate) test.
Now, if you could talk to Junky, you could probably teach that rather bold youngster how to fly NOE.
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This just demonstrates, BAR, the benefit of being intelligent enough to NOT dignify somebody's (no idea who would do such a thing) juvenile and innuendo-laden jest.
You pass the wisdom, if not the practical intelligence (hard to differentiate) test.
Now, if you could talk to Junky, you could probably teach that rather bold youngster how to fly NOE.
:rofl :rofl :rofl very nice :aok
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Unperk the Chog :bolt:
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Unperk the Chog :bolt:
:rofl and i didnt start it! unperk the 262!
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Perk the Camel!!!
(http://dover.idf.il/NR/rdonlyres/61E1FCF5-D54B-44A4-A466-EF944B9795B0/0/NMA_0234CWSs.jpg)
Did I mention that I'm IN with the perks?
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That dude is WAYYYYY inside the danger zone. :O
Perk the Camel!!!
(http://dover.idf.il/NR/rdonlyres/61E1FCF5-D54B-44A4-A466-EF944B9795B0/0/NMA_0234CWSs.jpg)
Did I mention that I'm IN with the perks?
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That dude is WAYYYYY inside the danger zone. :O
Yeah, either he is as cranial function limited as the OP or he has some seriously big
(http://www.resistaball.ca/Portals/43/stability-balls.gif)
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Yeah, either he is as cranial function limited as the OP or he has some seriously big
(http://www.resistaball.ca/Portals/43/stability-balls.gif)
wanna se a guy with some of those? go see number 3 in this video http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,286138.0.html i think im IN for a fun day like that
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Perk 51s??? But perk Delirium, Grizz and all bf109 familiy! :neener:
:salute
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:headscratch: I thought we had hijacked the original topic and the OP was a-Ok with it? :headscratch:
Perk 51s??? But perk Delirium, Grizz and all bf109 familiy! :neener:
:salute
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Bring in the Mustang Mk IV with the 20mm's then perk that :neener:
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for some of us who have been playing the game long enough, we already have a lot of perks and experience. if by perking planes your theorizing that people are going to use them less often and you'll have more fun, then your sadly mistaken. perking the planes has never stopped anyone from picking them as often as non perked planes. besdies perk points are hilariously easy to earn. go to the country with lowest numbers and get 3 or more kills in a plane over 30 ENY value against the common spixteen or 51. 20 or more perks every time. so in essence perking it doesnt matter. but say whatever u want... perk all of the planes for all i care.
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for some of us who have been playing the game long enough, we already have a lot of perks and experience. if by perking planes your theorizing that people are going to use them less often and you'll have more fun, then your sadly mistaken. perking the planes has never stopped anyone from picking them as often as non perked planes. besdies perk points are hilariously easy to earn. go to the country with lowest numbers and get 3 or more kills in a plane over 30 ENY value against the common spixteen or 51. 20 or more perks every time. so in essence perking it doesnt matter. but say whatever u want... perk all of the planes for all i care.
easy there jonah. i started this thread for the reactions not to whine about the P51. i fly the P51D as much as i do my zeros... and yes perk planes have lessened the amount flying in the air... if the F4U1C was unperked itd be the only F4U flying...
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Now, if you could talk to Junky, you could probably teach that rather bold youngster how to fly NOE.
What are you trying to say here? :huh
I fly NOE sometimes, if Im feeling kinky and want to get gang banged :devil
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:rofl
I fly NOE sometimes, if Im feeling kinky and want to get gang banged :devil
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easy there jonah. i started this thread for the reactions not to whine about the P51. i fly the P51D as much as i do my zeros... and yes perk planes have lessened the amount flying in the air... if the F4U1C was unperked itd be the only F4U flying...
thats not really a good hypthetical. if your talking about unperking high performance planes thats a whole different story. i thought you were talking about perking high performance planes like the pony or spit which are already not perked. i was just saying perks in the game have virtually no value or risk to spend considering how easy it is to earn the points, which is why i still dont believe perking lessens the amount in the air. maybe you dont see them as often as i do because you have to get real close to know what model it is sometimes.
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thats not really a good hypthetical. if your talking about unperking high performance planes thats a whole different story. i thought you were talking about perking high performance planes like the pony or spit which are already not perked. i was just saying perks in the game have virtually no value or risk to spend considering how easy it is to earn the points, which is why i still dont believe perking lessens the amount in the air. maybe you dont see them as often as i do because you have to get real close to know what model it is sometimes.
Before the F4U1C was perked it made up like 25-30% of kills in the MA, IIRC. By comparison the Spitfire Mk XVI makes up.. what 6%?
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This man makes a very valid point!!! :salute
Before the F4U1C was perked it made up like 25-30% of kills in the MA, IIRC. By comparison the Spitfire Mk XVI makes up.. what 6%?
And looking up some simple stats back it up well!
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thats not really a good hypthetical. if your talking about unperking high performance planes thats a whole different story. i thought you were talking about perking high performance planes like the pony or spit which are already not perked. i was just saying perks in the game have virtually no value or risk to spend considering how easy it is to earn the points, which is why i still dont believe perking lessens the amount in the air. maybe you dont see them as often as i do because you have to get real close to know what model it is sometimes.
pretty sure the tempest is noticed without being the 800 out :aok when a typh marker is a 20k coming down to 10k and then going back to 20k in less than 2 seconds then usually its a tempie... same with F4U4s when flown like they should. and motherland made a good point with the percentages <S>
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Hogs = easy mode
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so does that mean ur all against perking said non prked high performance planes like the 16 or no? im confused now
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Before the F4U1C was perked it made up like 25-30% of kills in the MA, IIRC. By comparison the Spitfire Mk XVI makes up.. what 6%?
Was more in the 15-20% range, and the planeset was much smaller.
That said, if it were unperked again it would make up a massive percentage of the sorties/kills for two reasons, 1) it has probably the best gun package in the game once ammo is accounted for (sorry Mossie, Tiffie, Hurri IIC, Tempest, Bf110G-2 and N1K2-J) and 2) it can be flown from carriers or airbases.
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What are you trying to say here? :huh
I fly NOE sometimes, if Im feeling kinky and want to get gang banged :devil
See the thread entitled "Karaya". I'm questioning why you subject yourself to judgment at the hands of the Priests of the Temple of High Self-Regard.
Disclosure: I already know the answer - but getting your perspective would also be illuminating.
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See the thread entitled "Karaya". I'm questioning why you subject yourself to judgment at the hands of the Priests of the Temple of High Self-Regard.
Disclosure: I already know the answer - but getting your perspective would also be illuminating.
Is that what Karaya belongs to? Those priests are some pretty weak sticks to hold themself so highly :aok
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Is that what Karaya belongs to? Those priests are some pretty weak sticks to hold themself so highly :aok
Maybe.
Now, as for Ranger school, I'm going to assume you're in your 20's and offer you something from an old(er)person who thinks he understands a thing or two (and I'm sure you'll tell me if I'm crazy).
It's like this: One day, you'll be old and sitting there, thinking about your life. You'll think about things you've done where you hung it all out there, maybe pushed it too far or got in over your head. You'll be smiling when you think of those episodes. Then you'll think of the cases where you DIDN'T do that - and you won't be smiling.
So, - my opinion - if it's up to you, you've got to do this. Even failure, if the attempt is wholehearted, is no shame.
Failing to attempt, though, is corrosive to the integrity of that type of cat.
That's my read, anyway.
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so does that mean ur all against perking said non prked high performance planes like the 16 or no? im confused now
most on the thread actually dont care much for perking or non perking of spit16s. this thread i started was mainly for fun ideas :aok and for insight into what people wanted/didnt want. the spit16 is an INSANE ride when flown properly like many planes. but 3/4s of the spitXVI pilots havent flown more than a year in game let alone in the plane. therefore i say dont perk it because too many new people fly it and die in it vs the vets who choose not to fly the spitXVI either due to the noobishness or the lack of necessary skill to fly it or its bad reputation or, like me, dont fly it because they dont like the style of plane. and personally if i fly a spit i fly spit IX or V and both's rolls as a fighter can be filled by my zero.