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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: infowars on June 13, 2010, 03:57:08 PM
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I was wondering why or not do you join a mission. Is it the poster, the plane set, or you just kinda wanna do you're own thing?
I know I won't join a mission if the plane set is mixed with axis and allied planes. For some reason it bothers me. I wish we had a German goon even.
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Used to...they are typically a buncha guys flattening an empty base...then orbiting for vulches until some OTHER guy kills the ack. We take the base....and, all-in-all... ya spend 30 minutes having not very-much-fun. (IMO) K's Candy Mountain missions are interesting...as is anything out of the ordinary '15 110's/tiffy's'...yawn. Was on one a while back...we took like 12 D3a's...ended poorly, but was fun :aok
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In 2009, I did fly 4998 sorties in LW arenas. 5 of them in missions.
I guess it's "you just kinda wanna do you're own thing" for me ;)
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Used to...they are typically a buncha guys flattening an empty base...then orbiting for vulches until some OTHER guy kills the ack. We take the base....and, all-in-all... ya spend 30 minutes having not very-much-fun. (IMO) K's Candy Mountain missions are interesting...as is anything out of the ordinary '15 110's/tiffy's'...yawn. Was on one a while back...we took like 12 D3a's...ended poorly, but was fun :aok
Exactly what he said. Used to. Got boring. Especially when the hoard discourages resistance.
If I join at all any more I actually like flying the goon.
Little edit... I always liked thunderegg missions. Trying to sneak a base 3 sectors back, weaving between enemy dar. The thing that turned me off missions was the "voolch! voolch!" stuff.
wrongway
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I ask because be I like to join mission... I also maybe even wanted to post some.
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99% of the missions are created by completely incompetent mission planners, which is why the majority fail. A long time ago when Rip used to post missions, I'd join them if I was on the same side at the time. They were always fun, had achievable objectives and wasn't planned by some idiot with no clue. Hadn't joined a mission in over 5 years until just recently when I joined one of Karaya's Candy Mountain missions were we all upped B4Ns and torpedoed ground vehicles at some Vbase. Had a blast and will probably join more Candy Mountain missions in the future but that's probably the only times I'll join a mission now.
ack-ack
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It was B5Ns you nooblet. And it may have worked if our planes hadn't out dove our torpedoes. :( :joystick:
I join missions everyday, but usually it's something within my own squad. We really don't need 20 guys going noe. To me the fun is in seeing how few we need to take a base, not how many.
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I don't join many missions simply because I don't find the majority of posted missions interesting.
It seems like the vast majority of the advertised missions have the same assortment of aircraft thrown together, P-51's, BF-110's, Tyhpoons, etc. Sometimes I see six or so different airframes all with 1-2 people signed up in each slot.
So I'm faced with the prospect of joining a mission, rolling into an area with little opposition and fighting the other members in the flight for the few kills that are available. Then to add on top of that the one part of the mission that I would find interesting - historical immersion get's thrown out the window during planning and there's little left to appeal to me.
Base taking generally isn't a part of the game that I enjoy very much but if I can't find a decent little furball to join I would probably join missions from time to time if the plane set was a little more themed, and/or unusual.
Currently I'm on a 5th AF binge so I would love to see a B-25C strafer flight being escorted by either P-38G's or P-40E's or something similar consisting of some of the less often used MW type planes.
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I don't really join NOE's, but I do LOVE high alt fighter sweeps...etc, where you just up some kind of random plane picked out by the mission maker, and all 5-12 of y'all just go somewhere and dogfight. THATS what I love.
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I don't like NOE's.
However, I love fun, high eny plane missions, sweeps, etc. For example, I posted on country one day if any one wanted to do a P40 run with me. Next thing I know you've got 6-7 P40s on the runway rolling. It's just one of those types of things that keep me in this game. Some guys still like to have a blast even if they might die because they aren't in an 'uber' plane.
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Yeah Soulyss, I when on a P40-E fighter sweep with the Nightmares one night :lol Had a frigging blast! I too like the oddball missions. I just might throw out a Stuka raid on a CV tonight. :lol
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I think a lot of the aircraft selection that goes into mission planning is done because it is perceived to be the best tool for the job, which makes sense. However I typically find that Aces High is at it's best when the people around me are more interested in the getting rather than the having, the trying rather than succeeding.
When the effort becomes the goal in an of itself is when the game really shines.
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I second Ack-Ack and Soulyss, and I too miss Ripsnot's missions. The poor guy couldn't enter the arena without 20 guys yelling at him to post some missions.
To expand on Ack-Ack's post, the problems include: Inappropriate plane mix and loadouts, especially fuel, and poorly planned distances for the stated target altitude. Most missions are posted by bomber guys who can't keep a decent conga line, let alone anything better then a gaggle of bombers. If you don't take it seriously, it can be fun to watch them lead through turns that loose drones and of course, then guys start bailing out right and left. I've seen twenty player missions end up with less then half that by the time they reach the target area.
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1.) Mission CO
2.) Mission Aircraft
3.) Mission Objective
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It was B5Ns you nooblet. And it may have worked if our planes hadn't out dove our torpedoes. :( :joystick:
It was my luck to get one of the infamous dud torpedoes, otherwise that direct hit right through the flak panzie's turret would have sunk it.
ack-ack
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It was my luck to get one of the infamous dud torpedoes, otherwise that direct hit right through the flak panzie's turret would have sunk it.
ack-ack
Shh...you mustn't give away SAPP secrets! :noid
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Last night I joined a stuka mission which was fun. It was announced on 200 and we were expecting much more resistance but never got any, but flattened a base anyway.
IMO..NOE missions are just boring. I used to join those 25 smash grab 110s and it was fun at first, but it really stunk landing with a full clip of ammo. After a while, you just dont care how the war is, and each base looks the same, even if we own 2 or 200 fields.
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EZRhino STUKA mission was fun the other night :rock, so really :confused:- torpedoes work on GV's - I have been wanting to try that -squaddies think I'm nuts (probably true) :old:. Would be a great film from a GV - look up here comes a torp!
HP
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It only works when you dial in the depth using the blender.... That's what SAPPER's tell me at least.
EZRhino STUKA mission was fun the other night :rock, so really :confused:- torpedoes work on GV's - I have been wanting to try that -squaddies think I'm nuts (probably true) :old:. Would be a great film from a GV - look up here comes a torp!
HP
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:lol See what you started Karaya :lol
or should I say Akak :devil
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torpedoes work on GV's - I have been wanting to try that -squaddies think I'm nuts (probably true) :old:. Would be a great film from a GV - look up here comes a torp!
HP
Torps will work on any object in the game, it's not dependent of needing the target to be on water. In addition, if you dive at a shallow enough angle when you drop the torp, you can take out a row of houses in the town because the torpedo plows through a few of them before exploding. Unfortunately, a film I have showing Mensa taking out some rows of houses the town when he dropped 2 torps from a Ju 88 (Mensa is the one that should be credited, he discovered it) isn't compatible with the current version of AH.
ack-ack
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Stop giving the torpedo secret away :furious.
Now they will all boost their damage hit%...
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Topredo for the VH:
(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5183/torpthevh.jpg)
wrongway
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I was wondering why or not do you join a mission. Is it the poster, the plane set, or you just kinda wanna do you're own thing?
I wish there were more missions that appealed to me, because some of them can be the best fun you'll have all night. My personal favorite is a semi-deep bombing raid that goes in at an altitude where you will more than likely encounter several bandits, but still have a chance of success. Something along the lines of bombers and escorts mixed from about 15-25k. Filth used to run a few like this that I really enjoyed.
Unfortunately, it seems like most of the times I see "MISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!" I check, and it is Tiffs, 110s, Mossies, P-51s, and P-47s, all loaded to the gills with every ounce of ordinance they can carry. Often, the fuel loads are overbearing for some planes, and not enough for others, and it just puts me off.
I also like the occasional oddball fighter sweep, but I've found that in general they aren't as much fun as the bomber escorts.
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I wish there were more missions that appealed to me, because some of them can be the best fun you'll have all night. My personal favorite is a semi-deep bombing raid that goes in at an altitude where you will more than likely encounter several bandits, but still have a chance of success. Something along the lines of bombers and escorts mixed from about 15-25k. Filth used to run a few like this that I really enjoyed.
Unfortunately, it seems like most of the times I see "MISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!" I check, and it is Tiffs, 110s, Mossies, P-51s, and P-47s, all loaded to the gills with every ounce of ordinance they can carry. Often, the fuel loads are overbearing for some planes, and not enough for others, and it just puts me off.
I also like the occasional oddball fighter sweep, but I've found that in general they aren't as much fun as the bomber escorts.
Ought to check out the 91st on Saturday nights, if you are willing to swap Bish. They usually get many formations up and a bunch of escorts.
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Ought to check out the 91st on Saturday nights, if you are willing to swap Bish. They usually get many formations up and a bunch of escorts.
The problem's not visiting the Bish, but the Saturday night :) but if I ever get a chance I might take you up on that suggestion. Good to know, thanks :aok
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As Uptown, Ack, Del, Bj229r and anyone who's ever joined a "Candy Mountain Mishun" of mine can attest to, there is nothing but laughs. If "fun" is for you, than you'll like it. If you play for "score", you'll only hurt your Rank. Too many people who call themselves "Mission Planners", haven't a friggin clue on what to drop, in the order to drop it. I cut out the middle man and force the opponent to do one of two things. One, attack a group of 15-20 D3A's or B5N's and hope you make it out after a single pass. Two, you'll run to ack and hide from us.
Meanwhile, people involved in the mission are damn near de-acking a field in these POS rides, just to be able to shoot at something. You'd think people would have some stones and roll, instead 9 times out of 10, they cower. For those who think I'm "exaggerating", I have plenty of saved CMM's film saved and anyone who has joined can without question back my statements up. The last mission had two people "drop out of the mishun", because "I can make a better one than you". The only problem is, they only had to wait a few minutes for the fireworks to begin and you will not come close to the "fun factor". It just ain't happenin.
<<S>> to all who enjoy the silliness of the Mishuns I post. As a matter of fact, I'll post a couple tonight. :rock
This is about as "self-indulgent" as I have ever been on the BBS, but I post these Mishuns for all of you that join, not for me.
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I thought hitech made it where you couldn't use torps on land targets now, am I wrong?
ab8aac out
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The problem's not visiting the Bish, but the Saturday night :) but if I ever get a chance I might take you up on that suggestion. Good to know, thanks :aok
Rgr that, I know the feeling!
As Uptown, Ack, Del, Bj229r and anyone who's ever joined a "Candy Mountain Mishun" of mine, there is nothing but laughs. If "fun" is for you, than you'll like it. If you play for "score", you'll only hurt your Rank. Too many people who call themselves "Mission Planners", haven't a friggin clue on what to drop, in the order to drop it. I cut out the middle man and force the opponent to do one of two things. One, attack a group of 15-20 D3A's or B5N's and hope you make it out after a single pass. Two, you'll run to ack and hide from us.
Meanwhile, people involved in the mission are damn near de-acking a field in these POS rides, just to be able to shoot at something. You'd think people would have some stones and roll, instead 9 times out of 10, they cower. For those who think I'm "exaggerating", I have plenty of saved CMM's film saved and anyone who has joined can without question back my statements up. The last mission had two people "drop out of the mishun", because "I can make a better one than you". The only problem is, they only had to wait a few minutes for the fireworks to begin and you will not come close to the "fun factor". It just ain't happenin.
<<S>> to all who enjoy the silliness of the Mishuns I post. As a matter of fact, I'll post a couple tonight. :rock
This is about as "self-indulgent" as I have ever been on the BBS, but I post these Mishuns for all of you that join, not for me.
I can back this up. I've only been able to fly in a couple of Karaya's missions, but damn are they a blast.
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I thought hitech made it where you couldn't use torps on land targets now, am I wrong?
ab8aac out
As Akak has stated, you MUST be at the correct angle of attack. I'd rather use the TBM though as the JU-88 is just harder for me to get the torpedoes on target.
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..... If you play for "score", you'll only hurt your Rank.
I was rewarded handsomely for unloading my .45 into the whirbel drivers head after bailing out of my wingless B5N :devil
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I was rewarded handsomely for unloading my .45 into the whirbel drivers head after bailing out of my wingless B5N :devil
:rofl Nice.
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Ok I have tried every angle on the torpedeos on a town that I can think of high straight down, deck and in between, they will not explode for me so does anyone have a film of this actually working now, I know it used to but I really though Hitech stopped it from working unless it was on the water.
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Reason i won't join, no particular order:
1. Mix of Allied & Axis plane set.
2. Already 15 people in. (If the plane is some odd ball like FM2, SBD or TBM then i might)
3. Mission tactically makes no sense.
4. Mission plane set makes no sense.
5. When I am online I'm usually flying with squad mates.
Will fly in no order:
1. If it is a CV based mission.
2. Has a good plane set
3. Mission makes tactical sense.
Most the time if i see a mission is upping I will see what their target is and head straight to the closet enemy base to intercept anything taking off or kill strats then kill any uppers if not damaged badly.
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Ok I have tried every angle on the torpedeos on a town that I can think of high straight down, deck and in between, they will not explode for me so does anyone have a film of this actually working now, I know it used to but I really though Hitech stopped it from working unless it was on the water.
I sunk a port ack once with one (the ones out on the pier)
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Ok I have tried every angle on the torpedeos on a town that I can think of high straight down, deck and in between, they will not explode for me so does anyone have a film of this actually working now, I know it used to but I really though Hitech stopped it from working unless it was on the water.
You need to come in at a 30 degree angle (+/- 1 degree), anything beyond this angle and the torpedo will just go through the building without exploding. You also need to come in at least 250mph IAS and drop at an altitude of no less than 500ft and no higher than 800ft. It's tricky and it does take a couple of hops to get it down right but there is nothing more enjoyable (well, maybe finding a drunk ewe in a barn or a good vulch) than taking out a flak panzie or Tiger with a torpedo.
ack-ack
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You need to come in at a 30 degree angle (+/- 1 degree), anything beyond this angle and the torpedo will just go through the building without exploding. You also need to come in at least 250mph IAS and drop at an altitude of no less than 500ft and no higher than 800ft. It's tricky and it does take a couple of hops to get it down right but there is nothing more enjoyable (well, maybe finding a drunk ewe in a barn or a good vulch) than taking out a flak panzie or Tiger with a torpedo.
ack-ack
yeah +1 :joystick:
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Reason i won't join, no particular order:
1. Mix of Allied & Axis plane set.
2. Already 15 people in. (If the plane is some odd ball like FM2, SBD or TBM then i might)
3. Mission tactically makes no sense.
4. Mission plane set makes no sense.
5. When I am online I'm usually flying with squad mates.
Will fly in no order:
1. If it is a CV based mission.
2. Has a good plane set
3. Mission makes tactical sense.
Most the time if i see a mission is upping I will see what their target is and head straight to the closet enemy base to intercept anything taking off or kill strats then kill any uppers if not damaged badly.
:rofl Think it was Hornet36 than ran a F4F and SBD mission one night. We didn't last to long but it was neat to see in the MA. :aok