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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: RufusLeaking on September 07, 2010, 01:45:52 PM
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Sometime over the Labor Day weekend (I can’t remember which day), I was on a side that was receiving horde after horde. In this case, I am referring to 25+ planes as a ‘horde.’ Over several hours, ten or more fields were lost. It wasn’t difficult to predict the next base from one or two obvious candidates. Yet, an effective defense never materialized.
How can such a steam roller be stopped? This is not a rhetorical question.
A few thoughts on why horde defense is non-existent:
1. Not enough bodies seem to respond to the horde in a timely manner. This is reasonable, as it is not fun to standby on alert to scramble for a horde.
2. Score conscious folks bail out at the first hint of being overwhelmed. Last tour, I worked my score as best as I could, but I found it restricting me to making safe decisions. So I know why this happens.
3. Too many ‘Alert Axxx’ calls on country. And, in a personal peeve, too little information, such as type, alt, etc. No one can respond to every attack. Defending everything defends nothing.
My opinion on stopping hordes is to counter punch. That is, hit their ords, troops and hangars along the front. With a nod to the ‘Fun Police,’ sinking a horde’s cv is a quick way to stop them. I’ve given up on fighter sweeps, though, a good squad should be able to disrupt the horde conveyor belt that usually develops.
How to stop a horde? Is it even possible?
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Porking usually does some good. If they're REALLY determined, stopping a group of that size is fairly difficult.
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I enjoy killing hordes, what i usually do it get a plane that is fast and has a decent rate of climb (P38 :) )
Takeoff and go NOE till your away from the base get some alt and come back in, most of the time the lemmings will be trying to vultch or kill town meaning a relativity low altitude.
You can BnZ then all day long until they either 1) run away or 2) auger into your town and 3) get eaten up by your bullets.
Just remember, even though you are outnumbered greatly you can still "lure" people into 2v1's and so.
As for the tactics part of alerting a base, I fin that caps lock works well when you feel you need a little help.
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I try my best to go for the most important aspect of base takes- barracks, and pork them, preferably with some help if I can get it. That is the rug to be pulled out from under the base take, aside from hunting for the LVT's, M3's, and C47's themselves.
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I'll pull every Pig available into a fighter sweep or GV roll to bring maximum pain to their take attempt. Mind you, a large determined horde will steamroll even the most seasoned group of pilots. It's just best to pork ords and troops, and harass the heck out of them until they burn themselves out. Yes, they will get some bases...
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Stop a horde by becoming the horde; take a base while they're trying to swoop yours up... :cheers:
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I'll pull every Pig available into a fighter sweep or GV roll to bring maximum pain to their take attempt. Mind you, a large determined horde will steamroll even the most seasoned group of pilots. It's just best to pork ords and troops, and harass the heck out of them until they burn themselves out. Yes, they will get some bases...
I remember defending against a horde at 17 in the blue arena yesterday. Many flacks, planes, and M-3's with pigs on the side of them. :salute It was a good fight, but little too late, you guys took the base... :salute Enjoyed the fight...
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I remember defending against a horde at 17 in the blue arena yesterday. Many flacks, planes, and M-3's with pigs on the side of them. :salute It was a good fight, but little too late, you guys took the base... :salute Enjoyed the fight...
LOL. Sometimes what we plan actually works.... :x
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Sounds like you'll be having some "good eats" until the next season of pigletts come around :rofl :devil :bolt:
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Sounds like you'll be having some "good eats" until the next season of pigletts come around :rofl :devil :bolt:
I'll never tell! :D
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How to stop a horde?
Lots of bullets.
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Increase the radar range and decrease the NOE height.
Oh, wait....
wrongway
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But what would we do without a horde?
:noid
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Stop a horde by becoming the horde; take a base while they're trying to swoop yours up... :cheers:
This appears to be the best bet. But, that means two (or three) offenses running amok, which lead to ...
Increase the radar range and decrease the NOE height.
Oh, wait....
wrongway
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I'll pull every Pig available into a fighter sweep or GV roll to bring maximum pain to their take attempt. Mind you, a large determined horde will steamroll even the most seasoned group of pilots. It's just best to pork ords and troops, and harass the heck out of them until they burn themselves out. Yes, they will get some bases...
mmMMMMmmmm he said "seasoned pork".
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mmMMMMmmmm he said "seasoned pork".
I don't care who you are, that's funny! :lol
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fust fight em, and enjoy the fight.
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My opinion on stopping hordes is to counter punch. That is, hit their ords, troops and hangars along the front. With a nod to the ‘Fun Police,’ sinking a horde’s cv is a quick way to stop them. I’ve given up on fighter sweeps, though, a good squad should be able to disrupt the horde conveyor belt that usually develops.
How to stop a horde? Is it even possible?
The problem with the counter stroke is that the saying "the best defense is a good offense" is often taken to be true regardless of the situation and circumstances. You need to be able to tell when you're fighting out of your weight, and start focusing on loosing ground as slow as possible, IMO. Attacking without a clear plan, or in piecemeal just makes it easier to be stopped, which seems to happen a lot in the MA's. There also seems to be a lot of this happening:
"alright, fighter sweep to defend A*** begins in 10 mins, join up."
"System: A*** has been captured by the *attacking chess piece*"
"aw crap, they got it. Nice job *defending chess piece*, real great defense there. mission to retake A*** rolls in 15 mins, join up"
What I feel works best for stopping the hoards is an imediate and direct counter punch. Get as many La-7's, 190D's, and P-51's as you can to up, and hurl them at the opposing hoard. The further from your base you can start to inflict noticiable losses, the better. Many will see its going to turn into a fight, and go find a place where they can sneak a base, or put a cap on it. Unfortunatly, this is also true for your side. If it looks like they will have to fight like hell to have even a prayer of keeping the base, many will leave.
Just my $0.02.
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Often the problem with stopping hordes is not enough bodies. Period
I dont know about anyone else. And maybe its just the times I have been logging on. But I've noticed a noticeable drop in people when I get to an arena.
As often as not I see two sides with a bunch of numbers (in line with whatever the arena Cap is) and one side with hardly anyone on.
sometimes its the side Im on. sometimes its the other sides. I know the other night the Knits when I was on just rolled base after base against what can only be discribed as token resistance.
And not because the other side didnt care. but because the other side flat out didnt have the numbers to defend anything. Even if they brought 75% of the total side against us. They still would have been out numbered. We could have all been fling planes from the WWI arena and I honestly dont think it would have made much of a difference.
The best ways to for lessor numbers to defend against a horde when your side is vastly out numbered have been taken away. the ability to pork fuel. and now its harder to get to the barracks. And the increase in feild ack has proven to be a double edged sword...Well triple edged if you include the dweebs that all they do it hide in it regardless of numbers.
but while its made it more difficult for the hordes to take down a base. It also made it much more difficult for those with lessor numbers that want to defend by attacking (which is always the best solution) to attack the things that are needed to to stop the horde.
Short of HTC installing some sort of mandatory side balancing cap to keep numbers relatively even. I dont know what the best answer is.
I know a Cap as described above would probably be looked at with even more disdain then ENY or the arena Caps
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What I feel works best for stopping the hoards is an imediate and direct counter punch. Get as many La-7's, 190D's, and P-51's as you can to up, and hurl them at the opposing hoard. The further from your base you can start to inflict noticiable losses, the better. Many will see its going to turn into a fight, and go find a place where they can sneak a base, or put a cap on it. Unfortunatly, this is also true for your side. If it looks like they will have to fight like hell to have even a prayer of keeping the base, many will leave.
Just my $0.02.
Yes, in most cases Any time you spend more time fighting over your base in defence. then in no mans land or over the enemies base. youronly delaying the inevitable loss of that base.
If your going to take on the horde itself. it is always best ot do it away from your own base.
Even if they are currently at yoru base you should make an effort to up elsewhere and head towards theirs. Even a few people can delay quite a few aircraft long enough for the planes at a friendly base to recover and head to the enemy base
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:devil
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Best way to stop a horde is the be the utmost pain in the arse you can possibly be and shatter their hopes and dreams of world domination from the armchair general that planned the evil mission.
Up from the closest base, stay high and wait for them to take the town down and just go goon hunting. Worse that happens is that even if you fail, you see a bunch of 110s and spits frantically trying everything they possibly can to HO/ram you so you wont hit their troops. Nothing gives more shame than 30+ effort being thwarted by just one guy and even just one horde mission goes awry out of 100..its still worth it :D
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overkill is just right. :aok
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But without the horde how can I up an l-gay(yea i know), fly right through the niki's and 110s and kill the goons. I just wish there was a way to eavesdrop on the mission channel right after. :t
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How to stop horde:
Announce to The Few DFC that KOTH is beginning in 5 mins.
perdweeb
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Stop a horde by becoming the horde; take a base while they're trying to swoop yours up... :cheers:
Or better yet take your horde and fight their. Most like the path of least resistance and any concerted force will break it.
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It appears that the latest changes to the game have forced countries to work together more... not less. There were whines about the base sneaks and then the changes were made to make it tougher and more people fly in missions now. Now your whining to push it back the other way.
Make up your mind already. :D
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Remove Eny caps affecting plane availability and have it affect the hp of structures such as town buildings and respawn time of hangers. Problem solved. If you think about it it works like that in real life as well. More desperate an enemy the harder to root him out.
Also
No "You shot down #" or "# shot you down" for planes with wheels on runway. Pretty sure lots of people don't up on horde because of the vulching.
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Quite True!!!
It appears that the latest changes to the game have forced countries to work together more... not less. There were whines about the base sneaks and then the changes were made to make it tougher and more people fly in missions now. Now your whining to push it back the other way.
Make up your mind already. :D
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Or better yet take your horde and fight their. Most like the path of least resistance and any concerted force will break it.
Last night, Titanic Tuesday, a horde on horde fight took place at A145. A friendly cv off shore of the horded base allowed the defender horde to get up after the base had been flattened. A hostile cv showed up to allow the attacking horde to quickly replenish.
Both sides kept at it for a good thirty minutes. And it was the most fun I had in the MA in a long while.
It appears that the latest changes to the game have forced countries to work together more... not less. There were whines about the base sneaks and then the changes were made to make it tougher and more people fly in missions now. Now your whining to push it back the other way.
Make up your mind already. :D
No whine. The best fights are those in which the outcome is not certain. Twenty five planes circling a downed field isn't really suspenseful.
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This thread has already gone 2 pages past the definitive answer! Scotch seems to have said it all on page 1. :rock
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According to wikipedia, you need Night Elf Hunters, Dwarf Warriors, Human Paladins and an assortment of Priests and Rogues to stop the Horde.
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Its simple really.
Hit them early, often, and hard. :devil
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Its simple really.
Hit them early, often, and hard. :devil
hit em hard, hit em low, and hit em fast.
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Zone / field limits stop hordes
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Hit em low, hit em high, hit em in the back............. :P
hit em hard, hit em low, and hit em fast.
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Before new horde 'setting system' you had another option, taking some small vh base such that enemy splits their force.
:salute
p.s.:
P38 has a decednt climb rate :O - only if you dive from high alt and return back ... or not? :O
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But if you ain't a SAPPER, you'll never pull out of the dive.......... :uhoh
p.s.:
P38 has a decednt climb rate :O - only if you dive from high alt and return back ... or not? :O
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Before new horde 'setting system' you had another option, taking some small vh base such that enemy splits their force.
:salute
p.s.:
P38 has a decednt climb rate :O - only if you dive from high alt and return back ... or not? :O
dunno how ya got to the pee38 from a horde post......but it does indeed climb like a homesick angel. :aok
and the dar is still expanded in mw.....and there are great fights in there over bases. we've taken bases with decent fights, we've snuck one or two(was a good fight ya put up zoom. :-) )
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It also made it much more difficult for those with lessor numbers that want to defend by attacking (which is always the best solution)...
I must disagree with this. There are times when attacking will just get a hoard to up in defense, and then they will say "hey, lets go take A*** since we already got the hoard up". Usually it IS best to defend through porking ord, and troops, and I think that many are too timid or slow to go on the offensive.
For example, Limbo0 and I were attacking A1 from A4. We were the only planes past the radar ring, yet alone the sector line, even when we had 1-2 planes coming over to A4 every 10 minutes or so. As soon as we got the knits attention and drew their planes lower, THEN everyone came NEAR A1. No one seemed to be willing to get their hands dirty.
It appears that the latest changes to the game have forced countries to work together more... not less. There were whines about the base sneaks and then the changes were made to make it tougher and more people fly in missions now. Now your whining to push it back the other way.
As I said above, no one wants to get their hands dirty and fight. They want to avoid fights by sneaking undefended bases or by smashing the defenders with a 10-1 numbers advantage.
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How to stop horde:
Announce to The Few DFC that KOTH is beginning in 5 mins.
perdweeb
You obviously love stroking away at our beautiful ankles. Do you find enjoyment in it? Sad thing is, you dont have to bend down to do it.
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You obviously love stroking away at our beautiful ankles. Do you find enjoyment in it? Sad thing is, you dont have to bend down to do it.
you're in the few?
bwahahahahahaha
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you're in the few?
bwahahahahahaha
:headscratch: am i missing the punch line or something?
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:headscratch: am i missing the punch line or something?
...The Aristocrats
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They let you in The Few? You are the punch line.
You'll fit right in BiPolar.
perdweeb
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type .unhorde and press enter
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It wasn’t difficult to predict the next base from one or two obvious candidates. Yet, an effective defense never materialized.
Personally, I've got no problem at all with "hordes" as you call 'em. They can be dealt with effectively, however
it requires a cadre of pilots working together, who won't just fly around in circles over the base they're defending
at an altitude of 50 feet hoping to get a single kill regardless of the fact they'll die as well in short order; and probably
due so -before- getting that kill.
A horde generates a herd, which is subsequently corraled and slaughtered at its own field.
In any event, no matter how one perceives these "hordes", they do in fact generate some exciting fights,
so the more, the merrier, IMHO.
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Personally, I've got no problem at all with "hordes" as you call 'em. They can be dealt with effectively, however
it requires a cadre of pilots working together, who won't just fly around in circles over the base they're defending
at an altitude of 50 feet hoping to get a single kill regardless of the fact they'll die as well in short order; and probably
due so -before- getting that kill.
A horde generates a herd, which is subsequently corraled and slaughtered at its own field.
In any event, no matter how one perceives these "hordes", they do in fact generate some exciting fights,
so the more, the merrier, IMHO.
Heya Oddball,
good to see you still around, Sir
I have to agree with ya, especially on the Bold Text part of your post.....
get 2 to 4 players who work good together ( comms& winging ) and go and fly around the incoming conveyor belt to the field(fields ) they are upping from. and keep them pinned down.....
while sending out several others in groups of 1 to 3 to knock out all their front line barracks, Fuel, ordances and GV Hangars and Radar towers
this will slow the horde down, to almost a complete stop on your contry front with theirs.. they will just switch up and go fight the other country. possibly leaving you with no more fight with them... making you have to go jump on the other 3rd country as well......
the idea is to not completely take them out of the game play with your side. but just slow them down enough tomake for some good fighting.....
or the best defense is a good offense........ try to take the base they are flying out of to come and attempt taking your base..... turn the tables to where they are having to defend their bases, rather than you having to defend yours.....
the main thing is, just have fun
:cheers:
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They let you in The Few? You are the punch line.
You'll fit right in BiPolar.
perdweeb
Speaking of fitting. Your napoleon complex is very entertaining. You need to get out more. I know there are things to do in knoxville, or do you not meet the height requirements?
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When the heck you coming back Bip?
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sausages
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Grocery Bag
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As I said above, no one wants to get their hands dirty and fight. They want to avoid fights by sneaking undefended bases or by smashing the defenders with a 10-1 numbers advantage.
Speak for yourself on that one. I know lots of guys who love to get their hands dirty and fight. Low wading into the mob is always good fun :)
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It doesnt matter really what you do. You either fight it and become vulch targets, or defeat it and they suddenly appear at another base thats undefended. Gets old. The whole base take thing just isnt part of my game anymore. I liked it for awhile, and I can understand why folks do it. The hoard thing wouldnt even be so bad if they just stayed at the fight rather than moving on when they find resistance.
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I'm surprised no one said "put up a red light with a cardboard cutout Cop standing next to it".
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I'm surprised no one said "put up a red light with a cardboard cutout Cop standing next to it".
:rofl
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To TC: Well said, ive been thinking the same thing just didnt feel like putting it into my own words... Couldn't agree any more. :aok
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Cant stand the hordes in general, last two nights always seem to get jumped by 4 to 6 guys hunting in a pack, heck i dont mind a 2v1 ( never expect a 1v1 anymore) but for craps sakes why all 5 dive in like a pack of starving dogs ill never know, well i do know but ill keep that to myself...
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It doesnt matter really what you do. You either fight it and become vulch targets, or defeat it and they suddenly appear at another base thats undefended. Gets old. The whole base take thing just isnt part of my game anymore. I liked it for awhile, and I can understand why folks do it. The hoard thing wouldnt even be so bad if they just stayed at the fight rather than moving on when they find resistance.
I agree, they also seem like they absolutely must come with so much overkill to take it, not to create a fight but to end it as fast as they can, or not come at all unless there is such overwhelming 10 to 1 odds in their favor.
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a couple of these usually does the trick:
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:aok
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When the heck you coming back Bip?
:rofl BiP Waystin lets hope so i enjoy his comments :D
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When the heck you coming back Bip?
no clue bro.doing all i can to keep my mind busy and off things. But by the way things are looking right now, its gonna be a long while. Have too many irons in the fire. Trying to save money, pops didnt have insurance so everything came out of my pocket, plus im trying to remodel my house. So im extremely strapped for cash right now.
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I agree, they also seem like they absolutely must come with so much overkill to take it, not to create a fight but to end it as fast as they can, or not come at all unless there is such overwhelming 10 to 1 odds in their favor.
exactly.. they want to succeed at taking that base, no matter what.
i saw 15-20 fighters show up at a vbase that was already flat from cv bombardment last nite.
then saw bruv take 3 of them out in 1 pass in a 262 :lol :aok
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no clue bro.doing all i can to keep my mind busy and off things. But by the way things are looking right now, its gonna be a long while. Have too many irons in the fire. Trying to save money, pops didnt have insurance so everything came out of my pocket, plus im trying to remodel my house. So im extremely strapped for cash right now.
Mailing a check to Bip for $5,000,000 Pig dollars. :lol Hope all improves my friend!
:salute
Way
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Mailing a check to Bip for $5,000,000 Pig dollars. :lol Hope all improves my friend!
:salute
Way
Does that come out like bacon strips?!?! :pray
MMMMmmmmmmmm.....Bacon :P
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Bacon is a currency is my world. :)
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mmmmmMMMmmm BLTs
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Cant stand the hordes in general, last two nights always seem to get jumped by 4 to 6 guys hunting in a pack, heck i dont mind a 2v1 ( never expect a 1v1 anymore) but for craps sakes why all 5 dive in like a pack of starving dogs ill never know, well i do know but ill keep that to myself...
I guess many will say something along the lines of: "so what? they are flying as a group, thats good. Get a bunch of your buddies to fly with you and you'll have an even fight"
Personally, I feel that improving your individual flying should be the main focus once the requirement of fun has been met. If I see a con being chased by 5 guys, I'll stay out of it because I'm unlikely to get the kill, and even if I do, so what? I didn't DO anything but get lucky by being in a faster plane or by having more alt than the others had. Instead, I'll fly on till I can find a 1v1 or, that failing, a 2v2.
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As I said above, no one wants to get their hands dirty and fight. They want to avoid fights by sneaking undefended bases or by smashing the defenders with a 10-1 numbers advantage.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
My sides hurt.
ROX
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Stopping the Horde 101.....
act like Chuck Norris is hititng on your sister in a bar.......hit him with a steal chair :devil
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As I said above, no one wants to get their hands dirty and fight. They want to avoid fights by sneaking undefended bases or by smashing the defenders with a 10-1 numbers advantage.
that's how you may fight but not everyone fights like you do.
ack-ack
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Holy Cow, I thought I was on the WoW forums and was going to respond with a "For The Alliance" night!
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Someone said it in an earlier post. If you want to stop the hord, take out the barracks at the bases they are using to stage their attacks from. No troops, no capture and the troops stay down long enough for the defenders to rally and counter attack.
ack-ack
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1. Up with 2-3 good sticks in your favorite planes.
2. Up a base back alone in a 262.
3. Organize a Spitfire fighter sweep.
I've used all of these recently and each is effective at dissipating a hoard.
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I've also found N1K's slaughter Blue hordes and La5's are good against the sloppy vulch. I think La7's are overrated and should be avoided at all costs
...spitfires just don't have the amount of cannon you'd like to have in a fight that you may not be able to land right away in.
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that's how you may fight but not everyone fights like you do.
ack-ack
As I've said in another thread: you are in no possition to comment on how I play or fight seeing as we've bumped into each other on what? 3 or 4 seperate occasions?
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I agree, they also seem like they absolutely must come with so much overkill to take it, not to create a fight but to end it as fast as they can, or not come at all unless there is such overwhelming 10 to 1 odds in their favor.
Bish channel the other day, mission was up to do a NOE raid, there were 20 people in the mission, somebody says "pity we can't get 50 people in", another guys like "wtf why 50?", guys like "it'd just be better".
I guess sometimes people like the idea of an unstoppable force, online shock and awe campaign :)
btw I was spyng, I'd never go bish... for some reason I kept accidentally running into their goon n their horde noe's weren't that successful.
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btw I was spyng, I'd never go bish... for some reason I kept accidentally running into their goon n their horde noe's weren't that successful.
Thats worse than the HORDES anyday in my book :mad:
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One P51-D with two 500 lbs bombs can take out all four ords at a large field and fly home. I do it all the time. As stated in other posts no ords no troops no base capture. Same with the CV, I see people take a CV to a base with the ords up or the ords at the next base still up. Then wonder why the CV got sunk so fast. Here is a clue, No one killed the ords first.
As I said one P-51 pilot can change the out come in your part of the map by just porking the ords or killing all the troops at a V-base.. If you don't like the 51 pick a plane you like and kill some ords and troops. That alone is one of the keys to holding or taking a base in this game.
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Bish channel the other day, mission was up to do a NOE raid, there were 20 people in the mission, somebody says "pity we can't get 50 people in", another guys like "wtf why 50?", guys like "it'd just be better".
I guess sometimes people like the idea of an unstoppable force, online shock and awe campaign :)
btw I was spyng, I'd never go bish... for some reason I kept accidentally running into their goon n their horde noe's weren't that successful.
You stated that you were indeed spying. You think your conduct in any way negates their lame buttocks tactic of wishing to have number to hord? I think not! Actually I would think that your action of spying is more despicable than them wanting to NOE or to even do it with hording numbers. It seems to me your conduct should be what is called into question here. Somebody quickly flush the toilet as we've got a turd floating around.
All in disgust...
Jay
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Spying,,, Hmm..
I don't condone it, but however it is as much a part of the game as hording and is within the setup of the game as it is right now.
Coming out on the BBS to admit you were doing it,,, :rofl
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Took a glance at zygotes recent posts.
Zygote, does it get old ALWAYS being wrong?
(edit: someone clue me in what Zygotes CPID is when they fly)
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No.
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(edit: someone clue me in what Zygotes CPID is when they fly)
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As I've said in another thread: you are in no possition to comment on how I play or fight seeing as we've bumped into each other on what? 3 or 4 seperate occasions?
And each time you've flown like a timid HO and resulted in being an easy kill that took no effort. In other words, a very boring and unchallenging fight just like how you claim "most fly".
ack-ack
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One P51-D with two 500 lbs bombs can take out all four ords at a large field and fly home. I do it all the time. As stated in other posts no ords no troops no base capture. Same with the CV, I see people take a CV to a base with the ords up or the ords at the next base still up. Then wonder why the CV got sunk so fast. Here is a clue, No one killed the ords first.
As I said one P-51 pilot can change the out come in your part of the map by just porking the ords or killing all the troops at a V-base.. If you don't like the 51 pick a plane you like and kill some ords and troops. That alone is one of the keys to holding or taking a base in this game.
aside from the fact that porking fields is boring, a horde can just as easily bring 5 sets of field supplies, and everything is back up.. you dont think they would spare 5 people for 5 minutes if it would keep their lousy basetaking horde rolling along?
my solution to hordes is just let them get bored with it.. you can only kill so many buildings in a day, and hover over a field who's hangars are all down so many times before you realize how silly it is... people eventually grow out of it, I think..
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And each time you've flown like a timid HO and resulted in being an easy kill that took no effort. In other words, a very boring and unchallenging fight just like how you claim "most fly".
lol, you're memory is faulty Ack-Ack, seeing as I haven't hoed you more than once (might not even have been YOUR P-38) when I had a pack of planes chasing. And of course I'm going to step lighly around you, I acknowledge that you're a good pilot, if not a plesant person.
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I was winging wit you last night.
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squaddies were on my wing last night.
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I'm still just trying to figure out what CPID is............ And why does he get one? I want one............ :rock Especially if it is made from hops and/or barley.
squaddies were on my wing last night.
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I'm still just trying to figure out what CPID is............ And why does he get one? I want one............ :rock Especially if it is made from hops and/or barley.
CPID, is an abbreviation for how long it takes light to reach your head from Uranus. :bolt:
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CPID, is an abbreviation for how long it takes light to reach your head from Uranus. :bolt:
Hey!
Hijack y'er own thread.
This one is mine!
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CPID, is an abbreviation for how long it takes light to reach your head from Uranus. :bolt:
ROFL.......
no seriously now..... CPID ( AW term for handle/callsign ) = gameid ( AH term for handle/callsign )
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Anyone try zygote? :noid
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:lol
CPID, is an abbreviation for how long it takes light to reach your head from Uranus. :bolt:
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People on here do not run resupply missions much. I know because I run them alone mostly.
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well i am just coming back from about a year long absence from the MA's. but i think my favorite tactic will remain as it was a year ago. it is actually very simple.
a base is being horded so i up from it constantly and repetitively in either the A6M or the Hurri and begin turning and banking before i even have wheels off pavement.
i do remain as low as possible turning in and out of between the buildings and even zipping through hangers.
i do this knowing that i am going to be shot down, i do this knowing that i may get a few kills from those idiots who dive to fast to be the first in on the vulch, but i do not expect to actually shoot down any of the piranha on the feeding frenzy.
i do this knowing it will aid in keeping the hordlings low and close to the base. i do this for as long as the hangers remain up and i can get a new plane.
because i know that in very short order the sky above the vulching horde will be pock marked with 4 or 5 (enough to break the back of any normal horde) and sometimes more (anything over 6 is country overkill and completely unfair to any horde of less than 45) Muppet's coming in with alt and e and a determination to avenge every death i have suffered by crushing the low flying no e and advantageless dweebs who were foolish enough to fall for the bait.
i care nothing about score k/d ratio or any other game measuring standard. i care about having a good time and fighting the fight. i care about the good feeling i get when i know that the hordlings first act when the appear in the tower is to change the under pants they soiled when they finally looked up and realized a wing of Muppet's were diving in on them.
on one memorable occasion i watched as Grizz Scotch m00t Mortis (aka Ink or JETSOM) and Steve crushed a horde in excess of 30 players in minutes. literally it took less than 10 minutes from the first dive of Grizz and m00t in 152's for those few of the horde who managed to remain alive to be egressing their sorry arses out of the area.
so my point is, the best way to defeat the horde is to have those amongst you who care not about deaths or score to keep the enemy in their low flying feeding frenzy until those with skill can return with alt and e and decimate the ranks of the fools that didn't see the storm coming.
what squad you are in doesnt really matter, if you can buy the time your squadies need to return then even just a few of them with alt e and advantage can swing the battle against the biggest of hordes.
but it never hurts to be a
MUPPET
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FLOTSOM, alot of what your saying is true, lately i seem to be doing the here comes the horde thing, but heck i don't care how many times i die.. i guess it's the beatin them back feeling one gets when they disperse to some other location on the map, then you just follow them :devil i have been out of the game for over a year and just been back now about 3 weeks, still alittle rusty but i do love my K4 and G6 other than that the P47d11 are my planes of choice for right now, hunting bombers i like to use a mossie or B25 ( the lanc's go boom real fast hehe)
oh yea.... it never hurts to fly around a Muppet either :joystick:
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squaddies were on my wing last night.
how did you manage to keep that plane stable with your squaddies on your wings?? Especially Karaya :devil
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how did you manage to keep that plane stable with your squaddies on your wings?? Especially Karaya :devil
are you implying that Lutes squaddies maybe have less than aerodynamically ideal figures????
well ill have you know that Karaya has been cutting back on the cold pizza and warm beer and is returning rather quickly to his previously envied girlish figure!!!
:O :D :rofl :rofl :rofl :neener:
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how did you manage to keep that plane stable with your squaddies on your wings?? Especially Karaya :devil
I don't care who you are, that's funny! :rofl
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People on here do not run resupply missions much. I know because I run them alone mostly.
not frankly true, there are times when my entire squad will stop what we are doing and re-supply a base just so we can use it for our ops. I'll re-supp a base if im bored or looking to kill time. Hey...somebody's gotta do it :rock :aok
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(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s162/spikesx/muppet.png)
wow, that is a cool map!!!! When are we going to see it?
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Just grab a 262;
Get under said horde and taunt them a couple times;
Watch them being lured lower and away from horded base;
Get over said horde;
Blow up horde from above;
Rinse & repeat.
Best done with willing friendlies.
Done
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btw I was spyng, I'd never go bish... for some reason I kept accidentally running into their goon n their horde noe's weren't that successful.
Scratches another off the Christmas List.
You can pork a base from the sea also......
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/16/article-1200059-05BA4CF8000005DC-996_634x408.jpg)
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now when I hear a POTW sayin "Im almost feet dry" on range, that will be the picture in my head :lol
:aok
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Most hordes are only interested in one thing: kills. Pork all the ammo/troops you want, it's not going to stop them or us. Besides you guys notice it's only a horde when the other country do it?
Semp
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According to wikipedia, you need Night Elf Hunters, Dwarf Warriors, Human Paladins and an assortment of Priests and Rogues to stop the Horde.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Most hordes are only interested in one thing: kills. Pork all the ammo/troops you want, it's not going to stop them or us. Besides you guys notice it's only a horde when the other country do it?
Anyone else remember when the bish and knits capped A139 (I think)? They were fighting over it for 2 hours and only stopped fighting each other when a bish con was in their imediate vicinity. Hell, I think I saw a 110 run dry in the middle of a burst, and then attempt to make kills using a gunner. All I know is he abruptly stoped firing at a D300 target, and then started turning circles over the field.
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now when I hear a POTW sayin "Im almost feet dry" on range, that will be the picture in my head :lol
:aok
:aok :rofl
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as far as defending the base itself.....small cannon airplane like a hurricane IIc that can turn circles around the 110's that are swarming around town are great.
You wont need the speed or the climb anyway. bailing and hiding in the town are effective.
But for the most part you gotta pork the base they just took,killing troops and ord....that will slow them down, at least untill the school kids have to go to bed.
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Scratches another off the Christmas List.
You can pork a base from the sea also......
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/16/article-1200059-05BA4CF8000005DC-996_634x408.jpg)
pigs swim? :huh
hmm, thought all they were good for was Bacon :lol