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Title: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: grizz441 on October 06, 2010, 06:15:52 PM
On making the front page for Fighter rank in Mid War!!  If you dream it, you can do it, nice job!  :aok  :rofl :D

 :angel:
 :bolt:
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 06, 2010, 07:32:37 PM
At least Shuffler didn't have to manipulate the score system.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: killnu on October 06, 2010, 07:40:12 PM
kettle? 
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: grizz441 on October 06, 2010, 07:51:12 PM
kettle? 

You must have missed the pick discussion thread.
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: killnu on October 06, 2010, 07:52:16 PM
I didnt have the attention span for that one (to be honest).   :devil 
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: TheBug on October 06, 2010, 08:15:30 PM
Oh goodie just what we need, another soap opera queen craving attention.  Great post  :aok
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Yeager on October 06, 2010, 09:19:30 PM
Shuffler consistently ranks well in MW and he doesnt even try  :neener:
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: warhed on October 06, 2010, 09:53:36 PM
This is 100% typical Grizz behaviour.  Always writing checks he can't cash. 




Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: 321BAR on October 06, 2010, 09:56:05 PM
ahh, to comment, or not to comment...
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: shiv on October 06, 2010, 09:58:37 PM
Forget it, Jake, it's midwar.
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: FLOTSOM on October 06, 2010, 10:02:07 PM
ahh, to comment, or not to comment...

if you decide not to decide you still have made a choice!!!  :headscratch:

 :banana: :banana: :banana: :neener:

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: grizz441 on October 06, 2010, 11:31:08 PM
Geez so much animosity!  :lol.  I was congratulating a guy who never picks or vulches obviously, on a job well done for getting on the front page.  It's hard to do only flying on the deck into hordes.  I just wanted to say wtg.
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: bcadoo on October 07, 2010, 12:38:03 AM
This is 100% typical Grizz behaviour.  Always writing checks he can't cash. 






Does anybody use checks anymore?  How about 'Using Visa that he can't afford?'
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: warhed on October 07, 2010, 12:43:07 AM
Does anybody use checks anymore?  How about 'Using Visa that he can't afford?'

Yes but he is from Nebraska.  They're still in the 1950s
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 07, 2010, 04:02:26 AM
Geez so much animosity!  :lol.  I was congratulating a guy who never picks or vulches obviously, on a job well done for getting on the front page.  It's hard to do only flying on the deck into hordes.  I just wanted to say wtg.

Kind of cheesy don't you think?  It's the mid-war arena and most fights are on the deck and no real hords, makes for good fights.  If you wanted to make some point you could have shown how the guy that got #1 did so by manipulating the score system while the guy that got #2 did so by just flying how he normally does without having to resort to any dubious game play. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: whipster22 on October 07, 2010, 05:42:54 AM
A film of grizz and shuffer on the deck in midwar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&ob=av2e (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&ob=av2e)
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: JunkyII on October 07, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
  It's the mid-war arena and most fights are on the deck and no real hords, makes for good fights
True, but for me its been hit and miss with Mid-War. Sometimes I will go in there and find a great fight (4-5 vs 4-5) but others Ill go in only to find porkers who just suicide bomb the fields.
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Yeager on October 07, 2010, 08:30:44 AM
Ill go in only to find porkers who just suicide bomb the fields.
in other words they are "in training" for LW  :neener:
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: grizz441 on October 07, 2010, 08:30:51 AM
Kind of cheesy don't you think?  It's the mid-war arena and most fights are on the deck and no real hords, makes for good fights.  If you wanted to make some point you could have shown how the guy that got #1 did so by manipulating the score system while the guy that got #2 did so by just flying how he normally does without having to resort to any dubious game play. 

Definitely cheesy, but, the point stands.  Even in midwar you have to fly smart to do well.  Flying smart, which seems to be synonymous with flying timid, is preached against often by some.  

Point made, congratulations sent, that is all.   :)
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: grizz441 on October 07, 2010, 08:31:48 AM
Yes but he is from Nebraska.  They're still in the 1950s

Below the belt!   :cry
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: uptown on October 07, 2010, 08:44:26 AM
and he did it in a B38. WTG Shuffler  :rock
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: LLogann on October 07, 2010, 08:55:58 AM
Where is Shuffler?

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Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: uptown on October 07, 2010, 09:12:01 AM
Putting together a Grizz voodoo doll.  :noid
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: SunBat on October 07, 2010, 10:07:40 AM
and he did it in a B38. WTG Shuffler  :rock

Which is one of the most dominant, if not most dominant planes in Mid War, when all things are considered.  Ever wonder why the P-38 experts frequent Mid War so much?  Mystery solved.  It's kinda funny too b/c they are the ones that are so vocal about the "late war uber rides" in LW, then they go into MW and "fly smart" in the MW uber rides beating up the lesser planes.  Double standard?  Nah, couldn't be. 
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Masherbrum on October 07, 2010, 10:25:34 AM
Below the belt!   :cry

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: JunkyII on October 07, 2010, 11:44:11 AM
Which is one of the most dominant, if not most dominant planes in Mid War, when all things are considered.  Ever wonder why the P-38 experts frequent Mid War so much?  Mystery solved.  It's kinda funny too b/c they are the ones that are so vocal about the "late war uber rides" in LW, then they go into MW and "fly smart" in the MW uber rides beating up the lesser planes.  Double standard?  Nah, couldn't be. 

P38J and Spit 9 own Mid-War.

I used them to get number 1 fighter in Midwar a few tours ago :D

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=MWTour126&player=JunkyII&kt=52
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 07, 2010, 12:09:26 PM
Which is one of the most dominant, if not most dominant planes in Mid War, when all things are considered.  Ever wonder why the P-38 experts frequent Mid War so much?  Mystery solved.  It's kinda funny too b/c they are the ones that are so vocal about the "late war uber rides" in LW, then they go into MW and "fly smart" in the MW uber rides beating up the lesser planes.  Double standard?  Nah, couldn't be. 


Spitfire Mk IX and Spitfire Mk VIII are the two dominant planes in the mid-war, at least those are the two best fighters in that arena.  Nice try though, please play again.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: SunBat on October 07, 2010, 12:35:48 PM
Spitfire Mk IX and Spitfire Mk VIII are the two dominant planes in the mid-war, at least those are the two best fighters in that arena.  Nice try though, please play again.


ack-ack

First, I said "one" of the most dominant.  

Second, the Spit 8 is perked, is it not? Doesn't count.  Even still the 38 is still faster below 5k.  I'll admit it will out climb the 38 so those perks will buy you something.  

Third, Spit 9 is slower than the 38 below 5k and climb rates are almost identical.  If you let a Spit driver dominate you in ur 38 that's nobody's fault but your own.

My point is, it's nothing to thump your chest about.  Which, granted, Shuffler wasn't, Uptown was doing it for him.  

You play again.   :aok


Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Lusche on October 07, 2010, 12:40:56 PM
First, I said "one" of the most dominant.  

By looking at the actual numbers of the last two tour, one have to define "one of the most" quite broadly ;)

Neither in usage as well as K/D are anywhere near dominant or spectacular. (rank #8 and #9 in last tour)
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: SunBat on October 07, 2010, 12:46:42 PM
By looking at the actual numbers of the last two tour, one have to define "one of the most" quite broadly ;)

Neither in usage as well as K/D are anywhere near dominant or spectacular. (rank #8 and #9 in last tour)

Just because a bunch of noobs don't choose them in the hanger and the ones that do don't know how to fly them doesn't mean that they aren't competitive planes.  This is one case where statistics break down.   Just look at the charts.  They can hold their own with the others in MW easily.

However, if you guys insist that spit drivers are so much better than vet 38 drivers, okay, okay, okay.  Granted.
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 07, 2010, 12:53:31 PM


However, if you guys insist that spit drivers are so much better than vet 38 drivers, okay, okay, okay.  Granted.

No, just refuting your claim that the P-38J or even the G are one of the dominant fighters in the MW arena, they clearly are not.  However, some of those that fly the Lightning can be dominant but that's because of the player, not the plane. 

If the Muppets are trying to make some type of point by trying to point out supposed dweebery on the part of others, keep in mind that the Muppets freely engage in activities that they look down on others for doing.  As the old and tired saying does, "when you point a finger at someone else, you have four pointing back at you."  Just something to keep in mind. 

/Discuss


ack-ack
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: CDR1 on October 07, 2010, 01:00:38 PM
I thought MW was the best arena for challenging fights, I have been working with the LA5fn all month and slowly getting the hang of it, For me p38's are the most formidable fight, there is certainly a big range in the skill of mw 38 drivers. If they keep their E and hold altitude advantage they usually win. If they get slow and try and out turn the la5 they usually die. The Spit drivers seem to under estimate the la5's speed ability and turn rate. Shuffles is a good stick so WTG.
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Lusche on October 07, 2010, 01:01:07 PM
Just because a bunch of noobs don't choose them in the hanger and the ones that do don't know how to fly them doesn't mean that they aren't competitive planes.  This is one case where statistics break down.   Just look at the charts.  They can hold their own with the others in MW easily.

You can say that about a dozen planes in MW, at least.
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: uptown on October 07, 2010, 01:04:50 PM
The plane suks. Perk Shuffler.  :banana:
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Banshee7 on October 07, 2010, 01:08:05 PM
Sounds like I'm gonna have to come back and put some folks back into place  :D
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: TEXAS20 on October 07, 2010, 01:10:27 PM
"when you point a finger at someone else, you have four pointing back at you." 
ack-ack

Should only be three fingers pointing back. How the hec are you pointing at people ack?    :headscratch:

Wtg Shuffler
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: SunBat on October 07, 2010, 01:11:20 PM
No, just refuting your claim that the P-38J or even the G are one of the dominant fighters in the MW arena, they clearly are not.  However, some of those that fly the Lightning can be dominant but that's because of the player, not the plane. 

If the Muppets are trying to make some type of point by trying to point out supposed dweebery on the part of others, keep in mind that the Muppets freely engage in activities that they look down on others for doing.  As the old and tired saying does, "when you point a finger at someone else, you have four pointing back at you."  Just something to keep in mind. 

/Discuss


ack-ack

They are competitive planes.  That is all there is to it.  You can't argue that they aren't when they are just as fast, climb just as well, have extremely lethal guns, and are competitive turners, etc, etc.  Any argument otherwise can only be because the pilot of that plane has convinced himself it is difficult to fly - which in your case is understandable since the only other plane you fly is the B-25.  :D  My only point is that in MW doing well in the 38 is nothing akin to doing well in it in LW.  That is my only point.  I think it's great that Shuffler did well last tour.  I know he's good.  

I believe Grizz's point is that Shuffler does in MW the very things he criticizes Grizz for doing in LW.  That is between Grizz and Shuffler and it came out of the pick thread.  Grizz's point is that he does these things without apology and enjoys it while Shuffler preaches against them yet is "guilty" of the same.  I believe that is the point Grizz is trying to make, but I'm not getting into that argument.    I don't preach against it, so I can do whatever I want I suppose as long as "I have fun doing it and am respectful to others".
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 07, 2010, 01:11:59 PM
If they keep their E and hold altitude advantage they usually win. If they get slow and try and out turn the la5 they usually die.

No offense but low and slow in a La5 vs. P-38, the only way a P-38 pilot is going to lose is if he's really bad.  

ack-ack
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: SunBat on October 07, 2010, 01:18:32 PM
You can say that about a dozen planes in MW, at least.

I know that.  The point is that the 38 is not at the severe disadvantage that it is supposedly subjected to in LW.  That is all.  It's not a big deal for a person with Shuffler's ability and years of experience to "do it in a 38" because a 38 is competitive in MW.  I am not taking anything away from him that he did a great job and he did it without manipulating the score system; I'm just saying that the fact that he mostly used the 38 is not as big of a deal as it would be in LW.  For me, this is not about Shuffler, it takes an above average player to use a competitive plane to dio what he did.  I'm just pointing out to Uptown that the 38 is one of the bigger kids in MW.    
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Slash27 on October 07, 2010, 01:18:57 PM
If the Muppets are trying to make some type of point by trying to point out supposed dweebery on the part of others, keep in mind that the Muppets freely engage in activities that they look down on others for doing.  As the old and tired saying does, "when you point a finger at someone else, you have four pointing back at you."  Just something to keep in mind. 

/Discuss


ack-ack

Such as?
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: CDR1 on October 07, 2010, 01:19:22 PM
none takin, but Ouch anyway, My experiance so far makes me believe otherwise. Perhaps what you say is true, I will continue with the la5 this month and see what happens.
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: grizz441 on October 07, 2010, 01:41:58 PM
No, just refuting your claim that the P-38J or even the G are one of the dominant fighters in the MW arena, they clearly are not.  However, some of those that fly the Lightning can be dominant but that's because of the player, not the plane. 

If the Muppets are trying to make some type of point by trying to point out supposed dweebery on the part of others, keep in mind that the Muppets freely engage in activities that they look down on others for doing.  As the old and tired saying does, "when you point a finger at someone else, you have four pointing back at you."  Just something to keep in mind. 

/Discuss
ack-ack

No no no.  I am not pointing out dweebery.  I am pointing out irony.  There is nothing wrong imo, with how Shuffler flies.  But if you are going to fly smart, certainly don't come to the boards preaching to fly like corkyjr, when that is obviously not the case on how he flies.
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: DEECONX on October 07, 2010, 04:05:48 PM
if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice!!!  :headscratch:

 :banana: :banana: :banana: :neener:

 :bolt:

Fixed.  :aok

Was I the only one that got the Rush reference?
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Scotch on October 07, 2010, 04:17:59 PM
Blech.
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Yeager on October 07, 2010, 06:24:33 PM
Was I the only one that got the Rush reference?
There are those who think that life has nothing left to chance.
A host of holy horrors to direct our aimless dance!
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: BillyD on October 07, 2010, 06:54:59 PM
Blech.

Belch

Was I the only one that got the Rush reference?

Concert Hall....da na na na na da na na na na
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: 321BAR on October 07, 2010, 07:16:17 PM
Fixed.  :aok

Was I the only one that got the Rush reference?
RUSH!!!!!! :x
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Rhah on October 07, 2010, 07:59:52 PM

Was I the only one that got the Rush reference?

lol i got it too, gotta love Rush
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Spikes on October 07, 2010, 08:37:24 PM
Fixed.  :aok

Was I the only one that got the Rush reference?
I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will!

Good stuff saw em this Sept. :)
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Slash27 on October 07, 2010, 10:23:40 PM
You guys know Rush sucks right?
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: Masherbrum on October 07, 2010, 11:15:57 PM
You guys know Rush sucks right?

"Polarize me, Sensitize me, Criticize me, Civilize me"  :devil
Title: Re: Wtg Shuffles!
Post by: cobia38 on October 08, 2010, 06:32:17 AM

  WTG shuffler   :cheers:  not bad for a Bomber  :aok