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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: wil3ur on October 24, 2010, 09:21:27 PM
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What is the point of hiding CV's? In my opinion, it ruins game play, and whatever your excuse is, show's you're a coward. I'm sure there will be people who will say: "But its a good tactic to deny the enemy use of the CV!"
It is not a tactic, its the lack there of, and you're denying yourself the use of the CV as well.
The level of skill and sportsmanship in this game is in complete decline. Between the 100 hordelings, the HOtards, and our Fearless Admiralty, I am starting to get the impression we're getting World of Warcraft overspill populating our arenas.
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See Rule number 8.
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since when is war about fairness? tactically a CV in enemy hands is bad. why would you put the CV in danger especially if the port it belongs to is in enemy hands? and risk it being sunk will make it a weapon against you. i play the game to take bases and reset the map. i view the CV as a asset only when we own the port. otherwise i don't see it being put in harms way a good use for it.
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Someone needs to clue in the CV hiders that even if the CV dies it respawns to the port it is connected to. Hiding the cv actually hurts the war effort, as you aren't utilizing a resource that continuously respawns.
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if it hurts it for the enemy then i guess we did our job. we aren't gonna help you win the war!
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What is the point of hiding CV's? In my opinion, it ruins game play
How? How does it ruin game play? How are you or anyone else prevented from flying any plane you like and fighting the enemy any way you like? How does one CV being far from the front force people to HO, horde, or engage in any other form of bad game play?
and whatever your excuse is, show's you're a coward.
Well, that's a stupid opinion. Leaving aside the dubious association of personal courage with how one plays a game in which no one actually gets hurt, even in game terms nothing happens to either of us if the CV is hidden or isn't hidden. I don't get shot down any sooner or any later. I don't save one single solitary cartoon life by sending a CV to the rear, or lose one by sending it to the front. There aren't any fewer fights, there's still the same number of players in the arena. And almost always there are still CV assaults, because if your side owns enemy CVs you almost certainly own friendly ones as well and no one is unwilling to use those aggressively.
It is not a tactic
Yes, it is. So there.
you're denying yourself the use of the CV as well.
CVs in this game are highly vulnerable. To be used aggressively to any good effect they have to be expendable. A CV whose port you own is expendable. A CV whose port the enemy owns, or whose port is isolated deep in enemy territory, is not expendable. Giving that CV to the enemy gives him a valuable tool. Hiding it isn't denying yourself a valuable tool, because it isn't a valuable tool without the port being secure.
But the important point isn't whether you agree with any of that, no one says you have to. What's important is that you respect the opinions of others. I respect the opinion of those who feel that CVs should be sent to the front, I just disagree with it. I don't think you're a jerk or an idiot or a bad sport or a coward because you disagree with me as to the best way to employ CVs, I just think you're mistaken. However, you are being a jerk (etc.) when you come here and declare that anyone who disagrees with you is a moral reprobate and responsible for the decline of western civilization.
The level of skill and sportsmanship in this game is in complete decline.
Sportsmanship is not running the ball straight up the middle 37 times in a row. Sportsmanship is not meeting your opponent's fist with your jaw because ducking or blocking would be "cowardly". And sportsmanship is not handing back to the enemy on a silver platter a valuable asset you went to a great deal of trouble to seize from him.
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You know whats funny? Try and move a CV into combat just try and set up a battle and you will have people move it out of combat and cry on country they are "saving" the cv. On one hand you have people hide the CV and on the other you have people who are scared to lose it.
vDevils tears are abundant these days.
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Someone needs to clue in the CV hiders that even if the CV dies it respawns to the port it is connected to. Hiding the cv actually hurts the war effort, as you aren't utilizing a resource that continuously respawns.
Unless you don't own the port anymore in which case you are denying the enemy a resource that continuously respawns.
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The level of skill and sportsmanship in this game is in complete decline. Between the 100 hordelings, the HOtards, and our Fearless Admiralty, I am starting to get the impression we're getting World of Warcraft overspill populating our arenas.
If you think it is that bad, you should stop playing ...
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since when is war about fairness?
Reality check...this is not war. It is a game about combat. Yes, I said it...and I'll say it again - it is a GAME about COMBAT. Hiding a CV denies people from using it for combat. But, I don't give a crap about winning the "war" - whoopdy-do you get 25 perks, congratulations.
But I do give a crap when so many people go to such lengths to not fight - like hiding a CV because it counts as another base for "teh winz" instead of using it for tactical purposes and generating combat, bailing from a plane when you get within 3k because they don't want combat, rolling undefended bases and then moving to the other side of the map if they meet any resistance because they don't want combat. It's a sad state of affairs when people pay money to play a combat game but don't want to engage in actual combat.
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everyone pays their 14.95 a month to play they want too. this is a fact of the game. you have 3 country's with 100 people on each side with small groups doing something completely different, some helping their country and some just flying rouge. get over it. while everyone has a opinion how how the game should be played, until HTC does something to force them all to play on the same page, this well continue to be problem. if you don't like then i guess you will continue to whine. i personally will not let a CV get into enemy hands if i can help it. you don't need a CV to find a fight . you can take off from any base on the front lines to do that. and most of the time there is 2 fronts you can choose from. saying the CV not being there for you to find a fight is a lie.
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you should call the office tomorrow mornign first thing, and demand that they force those responsible to come here on the bbs and apologize, and promise to never do it again........after they release the cv.
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Not that I've ever done it but there's a lot more dweebish play going on in this game than hiding a CV. The lengths people will go to to post a whine thread. :rolleyes:
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Reality check...this is not war. It is a game about combat. Yes, I said it...and I'll say it again - it is a GAME about COMBAT. Hiding a CV denies people from using it for combat. But, I don't give a crap about winning the "war" - whoopdy-do you get 25 perks, congratulations.
But I do give a crap when so many people go to such lengths to not fight - like hiding a CV because it counts as another base for "teh winz" instead of using it for tactical purposes and generating combat, bailing from a plane when you get within 3k because they don't want combat, rolling undefended bases and then moving to the other side of the map if they meet any resistance because they don't want combat. It's a sad state of affairs when people pay money to play a combat game but don't want to engage in actual combat.
ImADot, why dont you take control of said CV's when you see this going on if you do not like it???
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Help me out here. Are there people in this thread actually justifying something as idiotic as hiding CV's?
LOL you gents gotta get out more.
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Unless you don't own the port anymore in which case you are denying the enemy a resource that continuously respawns.
So you're saying this is the only circumstance in which it gets hidden?
Either way, i mean geesh who cares, get a horde together and take the port back.
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The way I see it, CV's are a force multiplier for taking bases. You get a friendly umbrella in the form of puffy ack, you have 8" guns that can demolish towns and hangars much faster than upping a set of buffs, you brign GV spawns into play where you may not have one, as long as it's floating you have troops and ord, and you can park it right off of someones base and pump planes into the fight as fast as they can.
Taking these out of combat is intentionally making your forces less effective, if you don't want to lose them, be smart. Pork Ords. It takes 20m to fly around and pork ord at 3 or 4 bases... it takes 12 Hours to sail the crap to where no one can use it, and it's of no use to you. What's the point?
Yes, I can up from any other base I want... but any other base isn't going to follow me to the engagement.
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The way I see it, CV's are a force multiplier for taking bases. You get a friendly umbrella in the form of puffy ack, you have 8" guns that can demolish towns and hangars much faster than upping a set of buffs, you brign GV spawns into play where you may not have one, as long as it's floating you have troops and ord, and you can park it right off of someones base and pump planes into the fight as fast as they can.
Taking these out of combat is intentionally making your forces less effective, if you don't want to lose them, be smart. Pork Ords. It takes 20m to fly around and pork ord at 3 or 4 bases... it takes 12 Hours to sail the crap to where no one can use it, and it's of no use to you. What's the point?
Yes, I can up from any other base I want... but any other base isn't going to follow me to the engagement.
in those instances cv's are just targets to a good bomber pilot.
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in those instances cv's are just targets to a good bomber pilot.
Pork Ords.
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you gonna pork ords 2 sectors away?
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If I am using a CV, yes, I'll pork ord at the closest 3 or 4 bases to where I'm sending it in. 2 Sectors is a short flight...
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If I am using a CV, yes, I'll pork ord at the closest 3 or 4 bases to where I'm sending it in. 2 Sectors is a short flight...
personally, i tend to hit them from 10k.......need a little more than 2 sectors, and for those using it to be kept busy to make it in.......
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c101 is mine and am turning it into a floating shopping mall :old:
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I see CVs frequently hidden wayyyyy in the corner of the map. 200 lights up like a xmas tree once someone decides to up 10 sectors to bomb it with whines of SPIES and so on.
I can totaly understand the tactic being used that the other guys may own the port, you dont want to deal with defending a group of fields every 10 minutes from a respawning CV, but I also feel that it its just as gamey to hide it.
I wish that maps had zones in those corners and once a cv gets hidden in that zone, it becomes visible to all without switching sides considering that it would be difficult enough to bring buffs endless sectors away to fight potential interceptors and the CV being turned.
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I hide cvs so I can drink your sweet sweet tears :aok
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Anyone remember the "love boat" exiting and new :old:
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ImADot, why dont you take control of said CV's when you see this going on if you do not like it???
I don't play for score and rank, so there are plenty of others who could take it away 1 second after it starts moving away from the corner. Also, I don't care what these "win teh warz at all costs...it's war, don't you know" types do. I switch sides all the time, so could care less how one "country" or another is doing.
Although I like fighting from, landing on, and defending a CV, I can go elsewhere to have fun in the game. All I'm saying is that it's lame to hide a CV for the sole reason to have one more base tallied for your "country".
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All I'm saying is that it's lame to hide a CV for the sole reason to have one more base tallied for your "country".
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Navy squads just love hidden cv's 13 sectors from the front line fights, gives us time to practice our takeoffs and landings. [/sarcasm]
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Help me out here. Are there people in this thread actually justifying something as idiotic as hiding CV's?
LOL you gents gotta get out more.
well I'm not sure which is funnier, the fact that people are trying to justify hiding CV's or I'm not surprised who is trying to justify hiding CV's.
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:lol Every one of these kids that try to justify hiding a CV from a fight or keep it out of combat are the same ones that you will find NOE or auguring themselves to kill ords or radar, in a horde, simply avoiding everything and anything to do with actual air combat, they have little or no skill at fighting or knowing how, just the mental midgets of aces high that have determined that the best way to avoid a battle is to eliminate the ability to conduct combat instead of learning something more from what the game offers.
So yes, you actually are at a loss, you lose the chance to gain knowledge of how to apply the aircraft at your disposal, you lose a chance at a decent fight with someone that may be able to teach you something new, and most of all its just one less fight that potentially could exist on what seems to be just a 3 large DAR bars on the map, again that is not what you want.. :rolleyes:
A mob of players taking a CV out of play while having numerical advantage, conducting noe after noe missions with that advantage may be good tactics in a real war, we all would agree with that but its not good sportsmanship here in this game.
However, This is a game of air combat, your actions affect everyone that plays this game friend or foe, to simply give up on the learning curve of the game and decide the best way to approach it is simply by avoiding a fight is not the best choice. Learn to fly, how to fly, you will learn more about what the game actually offers and not what you can simply game.
Lets face it, its just not about hiding a cv, its hiding it because you want to avoid a fight....
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:lol Every one of these kids that try to justify hiding a CV from a fight or keep it out of combat are the same ones that you will find NOE or auguring themselves to kill ords or radar, in a horde, simply avoiding everything and anything to do with actual air combat, they have little or no skill at fighting or knowing how, just the mental midgets of aces high that have determined that the best way to avoid a battle is to eliminate the ability to conduct combat instead of learning something more from what the game offers.
So yes, you actually are at a loss, you lose the chance to gain knowledge of how to apply the aircraft at your disposal, you lose a chance at a decent fight with someone that may be able to teach you something new, and most of all its just one less fight that potentially could exist on what seems to be just a 3 large DAR bars on the map, again that is not what you want.. :rolleyes:
A mob of players taking a CV out of play while having numerical advantage, conducting noe after noe missions with that advantage may be good tactics in a real war, we all would agree with that but its not good sportsmanship here in this game.
However, This is a game of air combat, your actions affect everyone that plays this game friend or foe, to simply give up on the learning curve of the game and decide the best way to approach it is simply by avoiding a fight is not the best choice. Learn to fly, how to fly, you will learn more about what the game actually offers and not what you can simply game.
Lets face it, its just not about hiding a cv, its hiding it because you want to avoid a fight....
I guess I need my eyes checked........I could have sworn I seen many many fights going on. Again HT PLEASE take cv's out of the game so we will have no more CRYING!!!!. DEFEND DEFEND and you'll have many fights. And NO Dads I am NOT a kid! The kid is the one who did get on 200 to tell the whole world about cv's that were in play and dont tell me that did not happen.
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..... Again HT PLEASE take cv's out of the game so we will have no more opportunities to have a fight, we can only fly in a horde and I do not want to learn how to fly like everyone else had learned, I just want to fight when I have superior numbers advantage and I dont want them to attack me with it, me and my minions will not give in because its our 15 bucks and if you dont take away the cv's we will continue to be jerks and ignore the whole intent of having them, we dont care what anyone else wants in this game but oh well, if you dont change it I will continue to come up with some other reason that makes no sense to anyone else but the lolly pop guild or I will close my account...... I mean it this time,,,, !!!!. .......
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You said it youself KIDS in this game...........if the shoe fits. Just looked in MA......fights fights fights going on all over......time for new glasses my friend!!!!
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How does hiding a CV promote combat? And by hiding the CV, aren't you yourself taking it out of the game already? :headscratch:
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You said it youself KIDS in this game...........if the shoe fits. Just looked in MA......fights fights fights going on all over......time for new glasses my friend!!!!
Id disagree a bit with that.............
My first question to CV hiders.........If you dont want to lose the port and CV...Why wouldnt you leave the CV at the port to defend it?
Second......How long do you have to be on to get that CV way back there?
Third......You say hiding it is a good tactic but at the same time it is the most powerful offensive and defensive weapon in the game.......Why not use it? Even if you only use it to shoot puffy ack in a general area or give you an early warning/back up runway at an important airfield?
Rememeber a port with a CV off it is 100X harder to take then one that doesnt have one.....
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cv battles are Fun, whether you are attacking from one, or being attacked by one. Hiding them is not part of this equation :old:
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Id disagree a bit with that.............
My first question to CV hiders.........If you dont want to lose the port and CV...Why wouldnt you leave the CV at the port to defend it?
Second......How long do you have to be on to get that CV way back there?
Third......You say hiding it is a good tactic but at the same time it is the most powerful offensive and defensive weapon in the game.......Why not use it? Even if you only use it to shoot puffy ack in a general area or give you an early warning/back up runway at an important airfield?
Rememeber a port with a CV off it is 100X harder to take then one that doesnt have one.....
We all know the answer to these questions, but will be interesting to hear what the answers are......
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so, they should give you the port without a fight too huh?
Pick up your skirt, wade ashore capture the port, find the carrier and sink it!
i realize this may require effort, so tough crap.
i would hide them in the deepest part of the country i could. this is gotta be one of the dumbest wines ever! :cry :cry :cry
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What a Lame thread. Sometimes Wil3er, it's not all about you and what you want. Grow Up.
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I see no reason to hide CVs. Yesterday there was a guy that switched sides to call it out on 200. I could only laugh that someone thought the CV so important as to do something just as lame as hiding CVs.
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so, they should give you the port without a fight too huh?
Pick up your skirt, wade ashore capture the port, find the carrier and sink it!
i realize this may require effort, so tough crap.
i would hide them in the deepest part of the country i could. this is gotta be one of the dumbest wines ever! :cry :cry :cry
Ah, you must be a Devil's Developmentally Challenged Person Squad Member (Or at least an ankle humper of theirs). Hiding CV's from the action just to have a captured base towards a war win is lame, defending those that do it whilst being rude is just ultra-lame to the 100th degree. :aok
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I hide cvs so I can drink your sweet sweet tears :aok
thats yucky. What if they have pink eye?
Youre a sick man
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thats yucky. What if they have pink eye?
Youre a sick man
Yo Bip! Nobody sicker than you brudder! How you holding out my man?
Way
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What happens is some smart guy takes the CV from another port to defend a port at a hot zone and moves the other CV off. So when the port gets inevitably taken - since the CV won't respawn there when it goes down - the logic from a base taking perspective says the only value left to the now orphaned CV is to hide it.
So the time to take action is not when the CVs are hidden all the way down in the corner of the map, it's when ports and CVs are captured. They need to be either defending their own port or attacking.
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Yo Bip! Nobody sicker than you brudder! How you holding out my man?
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Walking with a limp and sideways. Between the mass amounts of beer and 21 y/o chicks coming to my house every night. Kind of hard to hold this old body up :devil :rock :cheers:
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What a Lame thread. Sometimes Wil3er, it's not all about you and what you want. Grow Up.
Not as lame as the tools that take a CV and hide it to prevent if from being used or the twits that try to defend the tools that do it. Which one are you?
ack-ack
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What happens is some smart guy takes the CV from another port to defend a port at a hot zone and moves the other CV off. So when the port gets inevitably taken - since the CV won't respawn there when it goes down - the logic from a base taking perspective says the only value left to the now orphaned CV is to hide it.
So the time to take action is not when the CVs are hidden all the way down in the corner of the map, it's when ports and CVs are captured. They need to be either defending their own port or attacking.
Shiv, most the ports and cv's are captured when no one is on. I've been up between 1am-4am central time a couple times and it's groups running the map undefended. There's just not enough people on at off hours to defend against it on large maps. our squad switched sides for a month and it was a joke watching it go on and then seeing all the pats on the back for rolling undefended bases.
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Help me out here. Are there people in this thread actually justifying something as idiotic as hiding CV's?
LOL you gents gotta get out more.
If they hide the CV and they still have control of the port, then that is just moronic.
However, I am starting to see the argument that if the port was captured and there is no way to recapture it, hiding it is just plain smart. As soon as the cv dies the enemy will get it. If the way WtW guys enjoy their 14.99/mo and have their fun is by efficient war strategy, then this is the best course of action. It essentially renders the port they captured useless. You can't argue this fact. If you are trying to win the war, this is the correct strategy. Let me repeat, if you are trying to win the war, this is the correct strategy!
Essentially what you are saying to them is, "The way I play the game is better than the way you play the game". No, that is not right Corky. We should all be able to enjoy the game in our own special way mmm kay? Let them try to win the war, and we can do what we do, whether it be turning aimlessly on the deck ignoring obvious threats till they shoot us down or trying to fly smart and stay alive. To each their own! <Salute>
I still luv u corky. <3
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Shiv, most the ports and cv's are captured when no one is on. I've been up between 1am-4am central time a couple times and it's groups running the map undefended. There's just not enough people on at off hours to defend against it on large maps. our squad switched sides for a month and it was a joke watching it go on and then seeing all the pats on the back for rolling undefended bases.
Well, you're right about that Bonesaw. But I see players trying to be clever and switching CVs at a port during normal hours also. Which is how CVs sometimes get orphaned in the first place. And even if it happens at prime time that CV now is going to be sent to the back of the map most of the time.
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Didn't we just have this conversation a few weeks ago. :rolleyes:
I still believe if your country has already failed at retaining the CV or finding it after capturing a port, that's the start of the entire chain of events and if it's not addressed early, you loose your opportunity.
As to moving it 20 sectors away, yeah, it's a little extreme, I can see the advantage to just having it a couple bases back, it can still be brought into action in a relatively short time, and can even be a more effective way of hiding one. However, due to the number of people who openly admit to switching sides to locate the CV, it would be in a much more dangerous place closer to the enemy lines. Rather than people searching for the CV (something I enjoy to do) we are going to have a couple very passionate anti-CV hiders switching sides the second they can't find a CV. Those who openly admit to switching sides to find CVs are only hurting the problem, because when the CV no longer has the advantage of stealth, it must rely on distance to stay alive.
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If they hide the CV and they still have control of the port, then that is just moronic.
However, I am starting to see the argument that if the port was captured and there is no way to recapture it, hiding it is just plain smart. As soon as the cv dies the enemy will get it. If the way WtW guys enjoy their 14.99/mo and have their fun is by efficient war strategy, then this is the best course of action. It essentially renders the port they captured useless. You can't argue this fact. If you are trying to win the war, this is the correct strategy. Let me repeat, if you are trying to win the war, this is the correct strategy!
Essentially what you are saying to them is, "The way I play the game is better than the way you play the game". No, that is not right Corky. We should all be able to enjoy the game in our own special way mmm kay? Let them try to win the war, and we can do what we do, whether it be turning aimlessly on the deck ignoring obvious threats till they shoot us down or trying to fly smart and stay alive. To each their own! <Salute>
I still luv u corky. <3
Try and keep up Grizz :)
I've already started another thread yesterday where I've admitted you might just be right. I'm thinking of leaving the 80th and asking to join the Claim Jumpers. I'm studying for my carrier driving test as I type this. I will need some jeep shooting tips however. If I'm going to do this right, I need to learn from the best :aok
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The level of skill and sportsmanship in this game is in complete decline. Between the 100 hordelings, the HOtards, and our Fearless Admiralty, I am starting to get the impression we're getting World of Warcraft overspill populating our arenas.
When PCs fell to under 1000 bucks, it was the deathknell. There is most certainly a new "dynamic" in place in Aces High
over the past couple of years. Couple that with the fact that it's now a major daycare provider (about the cheapest
to be found anywhere) and you've got all the makings of a tard'orama. Can you pass me the manna?
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When PCs fell to under 1000 bucks, it was the deathknell. There is most certainly a new "dynamic" in place in Aces High
over the past couple of years. Couple that with the fact that it's now a major daycare provider (about the cheapest
to be found anywhere) and you've got all the makings of a tard'orama. Can you pass me the manna?
If PCs didn't fall under 1000, Aces High probably wouldn't be around today.
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If they hide the CV and they still have control of the port, then that is just moronic.
However, I am starting to see the argument that if the port was captured and there is no way to recapture it, hiding it is just plain smart. As soon as the cv dies the enemy will get it. If the way WtW guys enjoy their 14.99/mo and have their fun is by efficient war strategy, then this is the best course of action. It essentially renders the port they captured useless. You can't argue this fact. If you are trying to win the war, this is the correct strategy. Let me repeat, if you are trying to win the war, this is the correct strategy!
Essentially what you are saying to them is, "The way I play the game is better than the way you play the game". No, that is not right Corky. We should all be able to enjoy the game in our own special way mmm kay? Let them try to win the war, and we can do what we do, whether it be turning aimlessly on the deck ignoring obvious threats till they shoot us down or trying to fly smart and stay alive. To each their own! <Salute>
I still luv u corky. <3
Just for arguments sake, this strikes me as being very similar to the NOE horde base taking strategies that resulted in the radar changes (unless my memory is faulty) where HT ruled that while those tactics may be the most successful method to take real estate they didn't make for very good game play. Isn't this essentially visiting the same issue again?
I do see some differences between the two which could be used to argue against this point but I just wanted to play the devils advocate for a second. :)
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Just for arguments sake, this strikes me as being very similar to the NOE horde base taking strategies that resulted in the radar changes (unless my memory is faulty) where HT ruled that while those tactics may be the most successful method to take real estate they didn't make for very good game play. Isn't this essentially visiting the same issue again?
I do see some differences between the two which could be used to argue against this point but I just wanted to play the devils advocate for a second. :)
What say you HT?
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I can think of one glaring difference between the two that pokes a pretty big hole in my analogy Dads. :)
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When PCs fell to under 1000 bucks, it was the deathknell. There is most certainly a new "dynamic" in place in Aces High
over the past couple of years. Couple that with the fact that it's now a major daycare provider (about the cheapest
to be found anywhere) and you've got all the makings of a tard'orama. Can you pass me the manna?
1000??? a good computer can be built for 500-600 easy. i'd say that is well under 1000.00
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heck you can run this game with a PC that's cheaper than PS3 :D
I'm not sure if latest generation of netbooks can run this though...
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you can build a good one for 500-600, but you can build a great one for $1500(assuming you buy windows7)!
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The ultimate point is, that it doesn't help win the war AT ALL. If that's all you care about, fine.
Hiding a CV 300 miles from any useful position is stupid. It is one base in 100 that you have to take on big maps where this problem occurs.
Hopefully HTC will coad something so we can stop this madness.
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In a previous discussion on this topic someone made the suggestion that routing a CV should cost something in points.
Perk the CV command.
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So you lose the port for that CV group, simply go get it back with the hidden CV what better way to promote a knock down drag out fight isn't it? if your worried about them sinking it then have a cap over your CV to protect it
i thought this game was about all forms of WW2 combat, not you sunk my battleship :cry
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the problem i see lays in the fact everyone wants to do your own thing and when you need the help to cap or fight no one shows up and you lose the CV from lack of said help. and then the enemy gets the carrier and next thing you know the next 4 bases care taken cause someone let the enemy get the CV back and they used it against your country. i said it before just cause your in a country doesn't mean any one person is helping that country to win. which i think is BS in itself but everyone has a right to do what they want. it be a perfect world if when you got the CV and you can attack a base and port and have enough help to use it properly.
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the enemy gets the carrier and next thing you know the next 4 bases care taken cause someone let the enemy get the CV back and they used it against your country.
Gee, maybe those who hide the CV could learn this lesson? Hmmmmm...actually using a CV to capture more bases and come closer to "winning teh warz"...
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Just think where the US would be today, if we had not hidden the CVs at Pearl Harbor. We might be typing these posts in Japanese or German right now. LOL :lol :lol :lol
Kidding aside, I make no argument either for against hiding the CVs. Personally, I like to get the CVs into the action and mix it up. If we lose it, we lose it. It was fun while it lasted. However, I also see the strategy of denying its use from the enemy. Both points are valid.
The other thing to remember (for those who complain about hiding it) .... it is very easy to look at the map and determine if you are 'missing' a CV. In that event you know it has been hidden, and THEY ARE ALWAYS HIDDEN IN THE SAME SPOT. People around here are never original enough to find a new hiding spot. If you are missing a CV, up Lanc and go to the same corner of the map it ALWAYS IS, and blow it up. The CV will then be yours before you even get home to land.
:salute
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Gee, maybe those who hide the CV could learn this lesson? Hmmmmm...actually using a CV to capture more bases and come closer to "winning teh warz"...
this only works if you have the people to help you.
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CVs should be fought not hidden like little rats. Even if its sunk who cares?
There have been times Ive loaded up a Jug or P-38 with gas and gone looking for the one being hidden. While it may sound boing its historically correct enough to be interesting.
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If PCs didn't fall under 1000, Aces High probably wouldn't be around today.
Some of us spent not only thousands of dollars on systems and controllers, but $2.00 per hour (and in some instances, additional hourly costs for dialup access on top of that) to fly online flight sims.
So I think your prediction of the demise of Aces High if there had not been a general reduction in the cost of computing power is probably in error.
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Add long rang patrol bombers with ASV Radar.
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Id disagree a bit with that.............
My first question to CV hiders.........If you dont want to lose the port and CV...Why wouldnt you leave the CV at the port to defend it?
Or even swap them? CV from port 1 defends port 2 and CV from port 2 defends port 1? Its like hiding them by keeping them active
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Exactly Dedolas
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Or even swap them? CV from port 1 defends port 2 and CV from port 2 defends port 1? Its like hiding them by keeping them active
That's a good idea, but sadly some people can't think above a 3rd grade level.
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Some of us spent not only thousands of dollars on systems and controllers, but $2.00 per hour (and in some instances, additional hourly costs for dialup access on top of that) to fly online flight sims.
So I think your prediction of the demise of Aces High if there had not been a general reduction in the cost of computing power is probably in error.
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My post was in response to another, but in an era where these flight simulator games are becoming fewer and far between, cost of a system plays a role. Do you think Aces High would survive today if it went back to per hour play? I think part of the reason HTC tries so hard to keep the game playable on lower end systems is because a good base of the players are on lower end systems. There are plenty of us (including myself) who have spent well over $1000 on Aces High related equipment, but are there enough of us to keep the game flying by ourselves? I don't think that is the case; of course this is only speculation.
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So lets talk. Lameness? alternatives ? Dedalos had a good Idea. Talk alternatives to the Gamey attittude here.
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That's a good idea, but sadly some people can't think above a 3rd grade level.
and they then instill these 3rd grade level tactics on new guys and it's a never ending cycle that will only be solved with the implementation of subs.
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I Like Subs. Htc Bring them on.
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So lets talk. Lameness? alternatives ? Dedalos had a good Idea. Talk alternatives to the Gamey attittude here.
It's gamey because it is a game. A real CV did not carry an infinite amount of fighters in ten different flavors. There are many aspects of real life that are left out because of the un-fun factor. Horrible, firey death being the leading un-fun aspect of the reality of air combat. HTC does a generally good job keeping the fun in, and the un-fun out.
Personally, I agree with "send them to the front" crowd.
Alternatives? I think it was Greens that suggested to remove CV's from the base count for victory. Dedalos' shell game is another good idea, with no coding required.
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So lets talk. Lameness? alternatives ? Dedalos had a good Idea. Talk alternatives to the Gamey attittude here.
how about appreciating that different players play the game from an individual up to a global, strategic level. some like to win 1v1s, others like to win a map reset. what you consider "gaming" the game, others consider "playing" the game.
btw whats your ingame callsign?
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And game call sign matters how?
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And game call sign matters how?
it's kinda like post count, some how makes you more credible.
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And game call sign matters how?
Ahhhh another one who hides behind the internet.
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So lets talk. Lameness? alternatives ? Dedalos had a good Idea. Talk alternatives to the Gamey attittude here.
Altenatives? K..
They want to milkrun ports at 2am and take possesion of the cv only to drive it 300 miles from the nearest front. fine.
If said enemy decides to up a lanc and fly for an hour to BF egypt to sink it. Watch how many whines develop.
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Do your score search.
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Ahhhh another one who hides behind the internet.
How this is hiding behind the internet is beyond me..
all the info is there be it game call sign or BBS info.
Pathetic.
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Do your score search.
wow you gave that up easy, you're a rubbish spy. I might get a promotion for this :P
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How this is hiding behind the internet is beyond me..
all the info is there be it game call sign or BBS info.
Pathetic.
As far as the original post, I'm on your side here. As for hiding, it happens all the time. Many people will come on the boards and mouth off about something, and then turn around and do worst in the game. Other come here and voice their opinions and haven't played the game in months/years.
A LOT of people don't like what I say a LOT of the time, but I hold true to it both here and in the game. I think everyones BBS name and call sign in the game should be the same. That way you can't hide behind a BBS persona, and people could be some what held accountable for what they type.
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Fair enough.
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I Like Subs. Htc Bring them on.
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As far as the original post, I'm on your side here. As for hiding, it happens all the time. Many people will come on the boards and mouth off about something, and then turn around and do worst in the game. Other come here and voice their opinions and haven't played the game in months/years.
A LOT of people don't like what I say a LOT of the time, but I hold true to it both here and in the game. I think everyones BBS name and call sign in the game should be the same. That way you can't hide behind a BBS persona, and people could be some what held accountable for what they type.
when i first came to the bbs, i didn't know i could use the same name as ingame......but i put my ingame name in my sig line.
the only time i don't like ya, is when you're breaking my bombers.... :neener:
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Try and keep up Grizz :)
I've already started another thread yesterday where I've admitted you might just be right. I'm thinking of leaving the 80th and asking to join the Claim Jumpers. I'm studying for my carrier driving test as I type this. I will need some jeep shooting tips however. If I'm going to do this right, I need to learn from the best :aok
Oh u did? I must have missed it.
You aren't keeping up yourself Corky, which is surprising because you are a very bright guy. As a player you should play the way you enjoy the game. If you have decided that you want to become a win the war guy and a top tier jeep assassin (you have your work cut out for you), then have at it if it makes you happy. If you want to be Corkyjr, the cartoon P38G furballer, then all the power to you. The point is, do what you enjoy. If that's winning the war and the correct strategy for your side is hiding a cv so the other side can't get it, then do it! Personally, I would use that CV to mount an offensive attack on the port in question and try to recapture it, but that's just me. If the ilk that is calling the shots doesn't feel they have the skill necessary to accomplish that, and the next best course of action is to prevent the enemy from obtaining the CV, then sail her out to sea matey.
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Yes Crazyivan, I appreciate your wanting to contribute, being a picture kinda guy, not being able to read and write.
Pats head and points to corner.
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So you're saying this is the only circumstance in which it gets hidden?
Either way, i mean geesh who cares, get a horde together and take the port back.
Is that what I said? I don't think so. And in my opinion there is something far more distasteful then hiding a CV. That is an enemy holding onto your shore battery with a secondary account. That in my opinion is outragous.
realdeal
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Help me out here. Are there people in this thread actually justifying something as idiotic as hiding CV's?
LOL you gents gotta get out more.
But he's helping his country. :D
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And game call sign matters how?
it's kinda like post count, some how makes you more credible.
Really? I always thought what you say and how you act is what makes you credible or not. Those with high post counts aren't automatically more credible, just like those with low post count aren't automatically less credible.
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it's kinda like post count, some how makes you more credible.
Really? I always thought what you say and how you act is what makes you credible or not. Those with high post counts aren't automatically more credible, just like those with low post count aren't automatically less credible.
are actually taking me serious? i can't tell.
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Is that what I said? I don't think so.
If you hide a CV in any situation other than when the port it is attached to has been recaptured by the enemy, you are hurting your war effort. I'm not a win the war experten, but if you have any questions on basic strategy, feel free to ask.
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are actually taking me serious? i can't tell.
Sorry, man...I'm kinda tired and prolly shouldn't troll the boards like this. :old: :bolt:
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Sorry, man...I'm kinda tired and prolly shouldn't troll the boards like this. :old: :bolt:
30 lashes with a wet noodle!!!!
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Oh Cap, keep your noodle in your blender...wait that sounds painful. :neener:
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30 lashes with a wet noodle!!!!
Are you trying to impart punishment or foreplay? :D
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Oh, I apologize jut saw SUBS, and had to share that awesome pic from Twinboom. Was not intended for you who ever you are? Guess I have to contribute to this thread of lameness now. I dislike Lancstukas diving on my CVs very unrealistic. I do not like parking CVs in front of SB's. Last I do not want some punk squad hiding the CV's so I can't play the way I want to play. Have I contributed Ping? Good Day!
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and they then instill these 3rd grade level tactics on new guys and it's a never ending cycle that will only be solved with the implementation of subs.
Its a viscous cycle, bring on the subs.
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Oh Cap, keep your noodle in your blender...wait that sounds painful. :neener:
uummm......
OUCHIWAWA!!!!!
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If you hide a CV in any situation other than when the port it is attached to has been recaptured by the enemy, you are hurting your war effort. I'm not a win the war experten, but if you have any questions on basic strategy, feel free to ask.
[Grizz]
Someone needs to clue in the CV hiders that even if the CV dies it respawns to the port it is connected to. Hiding the cv actually hurts the war effort, as you aren't utilizing a resource that continuously respawns.
[RealDeal]
Unless you don't own the port anymore in which case you are denying the enemy a resource that continuously respawns.
[Grizz]
So you're saying this is the only circumstance in which it gets hidden?
Either way, i mean geesh who cares, get a horde together and take the port back.
[RealDeal]
Is that what I said? I don't think so. And in my opinion there is something far more distasteful then hiding a CV. That is an enemy holding onto your shore battery with a secondary account. That in my opinion is outragous.
[Grizz]
If you hide a CV in any situation other than when the port it is attached to has been recaptured by the enemy, you are hurting your war effort. I'm not a win the war experten, but if you have any questions on basic strategy, feel free to ask.
Now did I say anywhere that there is only one reason why people hide CVs? No, I simply stated one possible example of why people might hide a CV. I suggest you stick with baseball as reading is obviously not your strong point.
RealDeal
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[Grizz]
Someone needs to clue in the CV hiders that even if the CV dies it respawns to the port it is connected to. Hiding the cv actually hurts the war effort, as you aren't utilizing a resource that continuously respawns.
[RealDeal]
Unless you don't own the port anymore in which case you are denying the enemy a resource that continuously respawns.
[Grizz]
So you're saying this is the only circumstance in which it gets hidden?
Either way, i mean geesh who cares, get a horde together and take the port back.
[RealDeal]
Is that what I said? I don't think so. And in my opinion there is something far more distasteful then hiding a CV. That is an enemy holding onto your shore battery with a secondary account. That in my opinion is outragous.
[Grizz]
If you hide a CV in any situation other than when the port it is attached to has been recaptured by the enemy, you are hurting your war effort. I'm not a win the war experten, but if you have any questions on basic strategy, feel free to ask.
Now did say anywhere that there is only one reason why people hide CVs? No, I simply stated one possible example of why people hide CVs. I suggest you stick with baseball as reading is obviously not your strong point.
RealDeal
Haha, wow nice post. My offer stands, if you ever need help learning the basics of the game, let me know.
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Haha, wow nice post. My offer stands, if you ever need help learning the basics of the game, let me know.
LOL You think you can tell me something about this game I don't already know? Tell me, what can you teach me? Do tell.
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LOL You think you can tell me something about this game I don't already know? Tell me, what can you teach me? Do tell.
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Just think where the US would be today, if we had not hidden the CVs at Pearl Harbor.
The US didn't HIDE them prior to pearl harbor. They were all deployed... and since the attack on Pearl Harbor was a surprise, there was no motive to HIDE them. Had anyone been able to predict the time and place of the Japanese attack, I doubt the Battleships would have been lined up at anchor either.
As for the locations of the carriers, they were as follows: (source http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq66-9.htm )
Enterprise: On 28 November 1941, Admiral Husband E. Kimmel sent TF-8, consisting of Enterprise, the heavy cruisers Northampton (CA-26), Chester (CA-27), and Salt Lake City (CA-24) and nine destroyers under Vice Admiral William F. Halsey, Jr., to ferry 12 Grumman F4F-3 Wildcats of Marine Fighting Squadron (VMF) 211 to Wake Island. Upon completion of the mission on 4 December, TF-8 set course to return to Pearl Harbor. Dawn on 7 December 1941 found TF-8 about 215 miles west of Oahu.
Lexington: On 5 December 1941, TF-12, formed around Lexington, under the command of Rear Admiral John H. Newton, sailed from Pearl to ferry 18 Vought SB2U-3 Vindicators of Marine Scout Bombing Squadron 231 to Midway Island. Dawn on 7 December 1941 found Lexington, heavy cruisers Chicago (CA-29), Portland (CA-33), and Astoria (CA-34), and five destroyers about 500 miles southeast of Midway. The outbreak of hostilities resulted in cancellation of the mission and VMSB-231 was retained on board [they would ultimately fly to Midway from Hickam Field on 21 December].
Saratoga: The Saratoga, having recently completed an overhaul at the Puget Sound Navy Yard, Bremerton, Washington, reached NAS San Diego [North Island] late in the forenoon watch on 7 December. She was to embark her air group, as well as Marine Fighting Squadron (VMF) 221 and a cargo of miscellaneous airplanes to ferry to Pearl Harbor.
And in the Atlantic...
Yorktown (CV-5), Ranger (CV-4) and Wasp (CV-7), along with the aircraft escort vessel Long Island (AVG-1), were in the Atlantic Fleet; Hornet (CV-8), commissioned in late October 1941, had yet to carry out her shakedown. Yorktown would be the first Atlantic Fleet carrier to be transferred to the Pacific, sailing on 16 December 1941.
Just sayin...
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What a Lame thread. Sometimes Wil3er, it's not all about you and what you want. Grow Up.
:aok I love you buddy. I'll see you on the HO.
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OK -- Since I started the thread, I will offer what I believe to be a way this could be fixed to make things "More realistic", cause that seems to be the basic arguement for/against anything...
Idea 1 -- CV Supplies (any port w/ LVTs or Liberty craft or something)
CV's have a finite amount of range, ord, fuel and aircraft. This can function quite a while on its own, however its resources are being depleated. In order to maintain your CV, you must re-supply it at a port to bring it back up to 100%. If it falls to 0% supplies, the CV is effectively derelict in the middle of the ocean and 'sink'. It then reverts back to the port in 15 minutes, regardles off who controls the port.
Idea 2 -- CV Supplies (Via convoy from home port)
Same idea as above, except it is resupplied by barge fleets that leave the home port of the CV to keep it resupplied. These continue on a regular basis, and would be slightly faster than the CV to help it keep up. As with the above idea, the supplies fall to 0%, the CV fleet is no longer viable and returns to the home port.
This has the added benefit of making supply raids on convoys a valid (and historical) tactic for fighting CV's, and would also make people more apt to keep the CV in a specific theatre of operation so their supplies arrive in a timely fashion, and they're more able to protect their supply lines.
Both of these I feel would be a valid and semi-historical work around for keeping CV's in the action while ADDING to the game. This is the point of my post from the begining... hiding CV's add's nothing to the game.
Flame on!
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If it falls to 0% supplies, the CV is effectively derelict in the middle of the ocean and 'sink'. It then reverts back to the port in 15 minutes, regardles off who controls the port.
Problem...
Even now there are players who will switch sides to send a carrier group INTO harms way so it can be sunk, and taken by their "team". This would make it even easier for someone to send a carrier off to the middle of nowhere, or get bounced back and forth until it just sinks, and gets taken by the team that now controls the port... without ever firing a shot.
Suggestion...
Leave things as they are. From what I have seen, MOST of the time, carriers are used effectively and properly. Are there issues? Sure. But for the most part everything works out just fine. There will always be those who hide them, use them ignorantly, switch sides to spy on them, and other cheesiness. But all in all... we currently have the best working solution as far as I can tell.
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OK -- Since I started the thread, I will offer what I believe to be a way this could be fixed to make things "More realistic", cause that seems to be the basic arguement for/against anything...
Idea 1 -- CV Supplies (any port w/ LVTs or Liberty craft or something)
CV's have a finite amount of range, ord, fuel and aircraft. This can function quite a while on its own, however its resources are being depleated. In order to maintain your CV, you must re-supply it at a port to bring it back up to 100%. If it falls to 0% supplies, the CV is effectively derelict in the middle of the ocean and 'sink'. It then reverts back to the port in 15 minutes, regardles off who controls the port.
Idea 2 -- CV Supplies (Via convoy from home port)
Same idea as above, except it is resupplied by barge fleets that leave the home port of the CV to keep it resupplied. These continue on a regular basis, and would be slightly faster than the CV to help it keep up. As with the above idea, the supplies fall to 0%, the CV fleet is no longer viable and returns to the home port.
This has the added benefit of making supply raids on convoys a valid (and historical) tactic for fighting CV's, and would also make people more apt to keep the CV in a specific theatre of operation so their supplies arrive in a timely fashion, and they're more able to protect their supply lines.
Both of these I feel would be a valid and semi-historical work around for keeping CV's in the action while ADDING to the game. This is the point of my post from the begining... hiding CV's add's nothing to the game.
Flame on!
ok...i hafta give ya credit here. now you're being constructive.
i still think it's kinda silly, but you just made an excellent post sir. :aok
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I think that whoever has control of the Cv must stay within the Cvs radar range or else they will lose control. :D
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OK -- Since I started the thread, I will offer what I believe to be a way this could be fixed to make things "More realistic", cause that seems to be the basic arguement for/against anything...
Idea 1 -- CV Supplies (any port w/ LVTs or Liberty craft or something)
CV's have a finite amount of range, ord, fuel and aircraft. This can function quite a while on its own, however its resources are being depleated. In order to maintain your CV, you must re-supply it at a port to bring it back up to 100%. If it falls to 0% supplies, the CV is effectively derelict in the middle of the ocean and 'sink'. It then reverts back to the port in 15 minutes, regardles off who controls the port.
Idea 2 -- CV Supplies (Via convoy from home port)
Same idea as above, except it is resupplied by barge fleets that leave the home port of the CV to keep it resupplied. These continue on a regular basis, and would be slightly faster than the CV to help it keep up. As with the above idea, the supplies fall to 0%, the CV fleet is no longer viable and returns to the home port.
This has the added benefit of making supply raids on convoys a valid (and historical) tactic for fighting CV's, and would also make people more apt to keep the CV in a specific theatre of operation so their supplies arrive in a timely fashion, and they're more able to protect their supply lines.
Both of these I feel would be a valid and semi-historical work around for keeping CV's in the action while ADDING to the game. This is the point of my post from the begining... hiding CV's add's nothing to the game.
Flame on!
The supply ships would also give away the direction of the CV as they would be traveling in the direction of the CV.
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If we lose it, we lose it. It was fun while it lasted.
I like this way of thinking.
I like it a lot.
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Oh u did? I must have missed it.
You aren't keeping up yourself Corky, which is surprising because you are a very bright guy. As a player you should play the way you enjoy the game. If you have decided that you want to become a win the war guy and a top tier jeep assassin (you have your work cut out for you), then have at it if it makes you happy. If you want to be Corkyjr, the cartoon P38G furballer, then all the power to you. The point is, do what you enjoy. If that's winning the war and the correct strategy for your side is hiding a cv so the other side can't get it, then do it! Personally, I would use that CV to mount an offensive attack on the port in question and try to recapture it, but that's just me. If the ilk that is calling the shots doesn't feel they have the skill necessary to accomplish that, and the next best course of action is to prevent the enemy from obtaining the CV, then sail her out to sea matey.
Grizz, you gotta know when to play along sometimes. I hand ya an opening like that and you get preachy. For shame! :)
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Grizz, you gotta know when to play along sometimes. I hand ya an opening like that and you get preachy. For shame! :)
What can I say, I have attended too many church services at Preacher CorkyJr's congregation. :D
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What can I say, I have attended too many church services at Preacher CorkyJr's congregation. :D
LOL and clearly fell asleep during the sermon :aok
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.... Personally, I like to get the CVs into the action and mix it up. If we lose it, we lose it. It was fun while it lasted. ......
Best thing posted :aok
...Leave things as they are. .... Are there issues? Sure. .... There will always be those who hide them, use them ignorantly, switch sides to spy on them, and other cheesiness. ...
If used as they were intended, the issues you speak of would not have any merit would it....
Take a moment and think outside the box. This is exactly where all the spiraling and escalating problems stem from. Some players in this game mimic Newtons law of motion and the cycle of problems begin.
You can bet that to continue hiding cv's will bring on much more dweebery than you could imagine.
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{snip] I think everyones BBS name and call sign in the game should be the same. That way you can't hide behind a BBS persona, and people could be some what held accountable for what they type.
I had an AH BBS ID for probably 5 years before I switched to the sim and opened an account for online play - my BBS ID was my WWIIOL callsign (I switched call signs going to WWIIOL because I couldn't use "-Ghost", as I had been in WB's).
And when I went into an AH arena for the first time and was forced to choose a callsign, it wouldn't let me use "Ghastly", so I had to choose something different. So it's not always intentional when people use different ID's - and that's excluding the fact that you can change your online callsign but not your BBS id.
I wouldn't mind if they were (forced to be) the same, but things would need to change administratively for that to happen, and I'd rather the HTC crew spent dev time on more important things.
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The US didn't HIDE them prior to pearl harbor. They were all deployed... and since the attack on Pearl Harbor was a surprise, there was no motive to HIDE them. Had anyone been able to predict the time and place of the Japanese attack, I doubt the Battleships would have been lined up at anchor either.
It was fortuitous that the CVs were not in Pearl Harbor. I was being funny when I suggested that the US had 'hidden' them. It was supposed to be something in the spirit of John Belushi's Animal House quote, "Was it OVER when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO! "
I apologize if the joke flew over your head. But thank you for the history lesson. I will sleep much better tonight knowing where are CVs were on December 7, 1941. :salute
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A quick fix would be to leave the last captains name in lights until they have been replaced. I do not like the fact that you can move a CV without "taking command". That at least would give the guys on the BBs a bit more ammo for degrading dweebs.
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It was fortuitous that the CVs were not in Pearl Harbor. I was being funny when I suggested that the US had 'hidden' them. It was supposed to be something in the spirit of John Belushi's Animal House quote, "Was it OVER when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO! "
I apologize if the joke flew over your head. But thank you for the history lesson. I will sleep much better tonight knowing where are CVs were on December 7, 1941. :salute
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That's the thing about the written word... hard to tell when someone is joking and when they are being serious. Especially when you dont know the age and/or knowledge base of who made the statement. Next time be sure to use the [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] tags around the humorous statements :D
And... :neener: right back at ya! :salute
[sarcasm] You mean the Germans DIDNT bomb pearl harbor? [/sarcasm]
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IMHO hiding CV's only causes all of this drama both in game and here in the BBS. Just think about it...say if the Rooks capture a Knight port and they aren't able to find the CV belonging to that port, most likely you will have people searching for that "hidden CV" while others will try and contact someone they know on the opposite country and pin a location of that enemy CV or simply switch sides and move the CV to a striking point where the Rooks can hit the CV easily. It happens, has happened and will continue to happen because people think differently and learn at different rates than others. People will do their own thing which makes us human...just because people aren't ALL on the same page about "How to Control a CV" doesn't make anyone better then anyone. It happens, it's a game, deal with it I say or just don't bother with the CV's.
:salute SWkiljoy
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IMHO hiding CV's only causes all of this drama both in game and here in the BBS. Just think about it...say if the Rooks capture a Knight port and they aren't able to find the CV belonging to that port, most likely you will have people searching for that "hidden CV" while others will try and contact someone they know on the opposite country and pin a location of that enemy CV or simply switch sides and move the CV to a striking point where the Rooks can hit the CV easily. It happens, has happened and will continue to happen because people think differently and learn at different rates than others. People will do their own thing which makes us human...just because people aren't ALL on the same page about "How to Control a CV" doesn't make anyone better then anyone. It happens, it's a game, deal with it I say or just don't bother with the CV's.
:salute SWkiljoy
hiding the cv's causes nothing, with the exception of the cv's being hidden.
the people taking this crap too seriously are causing all the drama. this time it's the hidden cv's. next time it'll be whatever happens to be climbing out of their anal orifice.
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hiding the cv's causes nothing, with the exception of the cv's being hidden.
the people taking this crap too seriously are causing all the drama. this time it's the hidden cv's. next time it'll be whatever happens to be climbing out of their anal orifice.
So true :lol Moving on... :bolt:
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So true :lol Moving on... :bolt:
btw...my comment wasn't intended to be disrespectful to you sir.
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btw...my comment wasn't intended to be disrespectful to you sir.
Understood CAP. It's forums, I don't take anything on here seriously unless it's from an admin :O
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