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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazaa on October 29, 2010, 02:29:43 PM
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Gloster Meteor Mk III, nuff said!
(http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/anglicke/meteor/meteor_f_mk3-02.jpg)
(http://www.historyofwar.org/Pictures/meteor_F3.jpg)
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Did we ever decide if tipping V1s was actually combat?
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Too bad Pyro added that he didn't want suggestions of new variants for existing planes. I'm sure there would have been an overwhelming response from the community for the P-38H.
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Did we ever decide if tipping V1s was actually combat?
Yes.
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Me-410 vs the Beaufighter in the finals is where my money is. Final I'd like to see would be Ki-45 & SB2C
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Honestly if they gave us a package deal with the 410 and the Beaufighter it would be the best they could do as far as making the most people happy I think.
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after remembering the last vote and how it was different than the BBS polls each round i wouldn't be surprised if we get the P-61 and A-26 as the last two choices :D
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WESTLAND WHIRLWIND :aok
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Honestly if they gave us a package deal with the 410 and the Beaufighter it would be the best they could do as far as making the most people happy I think.
Throw in the HE-111 and the Oscar to the above, and i think the wishlist thread would have tumbleweeds blowing thru it :lol
(Although there would be the occasional wish for the bomber that shall remain nameless) :D
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(Although there would be the occasional wish for the bomber that shall remain nameless) :D
Short Stirling? :noid
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I like the Meteor, but it's second to the Yak-3 in my wishlist.
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Too bad Pyro added that he didn't want suggestions of new variants for existing planes. I'm sure there would have been an overwhelming response from the community for the P-38H.
Not the P-38M?
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Not the P-38M?
m? ewwww droop
P-38H BABY ALL THE WAY
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m? ewwww droop
P-38H BABY ALL THE WAY
What is great about the "H"? Do not know my P-38s well.
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My Havoc is getting worn out, so i vote for A-26 :x
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What is great about the "H"? Do not know my P-38s well.
J motors in G body
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the Avro Fairey Battle anyone?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Fairey_Battle.jpg/300px-Fairey_Battle.jpg)
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Its going to be an American plane just like the last vote. The ones we really need will be taken out in the first round. Just a wild guess but I'm betting the A-26 will be the winner.
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edit nvm, I can't read. A-26 FTW!
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J motors in G body
J + G = H Got to just my calculation on this, it dose not seem right.
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Its going to be an American plane just like the last vote. The ones we really need will be taken out in the first round. Just a wild guess but I'm betting the A-26 will be the winner.
Last time, each round the plane I just voted for was kicked out of the race :lol
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I hope they add the Pe-2, or Tu-2 to the poll :uhoh
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ugh.. b29 is in the poll in game..
ohwell!
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J motors in G body
Even with the same engine, the H was slower than the J.
ack-ack
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Crap, I didn't see the poll till it was too late.
Me410
And actually I'll be happy with any new addition, as long as it's accompanied by a Me410
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ugh.. b29 is in the poll in game..
ohwell!
if thats true might as well just go ahead and get a head start on the B-29 Waffle :D
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Sheesh, philistines (aside from TheBug obviously, he's a man of taste).
How can you not want the Gloucester Gladiator ingame, I mean, its beautiful.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/wurzeluk/2007_0101CALIFEB20090111-1.jpg)
Wurzel
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Even with the same engine, the H was slower than the J.
ack-ack
more power than the g though :neener: wep to i believe
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WOW !!! This troll is almost as good as the one Trigger posted !!
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ugh.. b29 is in the poll in game..
ohwell!
I saw that, time to open shades and vote for it! :noid
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I hope they add the Pe-2, or Tu-2 to the poll :uhoh
Well, just logged and the Pe-2 was there.. sadly unlike the Tu-2 and the Yak-3, my money that this will end with a new EU bomber...
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Last time, each round the plane I just voted for was kicked out of the race :lol
I voted for the He-111 and after that was kicked out I just stopped caring.
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Seems Pyro already locked the thread for the plane poll.
As much as I'd like to see the Me410 if we're only going to get 2 planes I'd like to see the Ki43 and either the Pe2 or Tu2 added next. I think those would give event planes a much better planeset to use.
It would be nice to see the Beau,410,Pe2 and Ki45 all added,but then I like twin engine attack A/C. :aok
:salute
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Remember when McDonalds was all about burgers, frys, and shakes? We were just happy to be out of the house with the pocket change to go to MikyDees. It was exciting the few times over the years a new main entree was rolled out. Now McDonalds has gormet coffe, girly salads, MCnuggets, Mcfishies, McMousies, McFreeseeis, Mc anything for your buck....
And all anyone does is stuff their mouths with McKywhatever while compalining about TransFat, cholesteral, carbon foot print, red meat, evil greedy Mckey corp and on and on and on....while still walking in and dropping their dime for more McKeyDee time.
It was better when we never knew what new toy was getting packeged in each release. We trusted HTC to release new things. Then it was treated like a present instead of now like an entitlement. Entitlements are never appreciated or valued by the recipient. Instead of WoW thank you for the new plane. It's becomeing "what have you done for me latetly sucka" and "I wanna side a fries in Yak Butter with it yesterday"......
How many of you vets who scream at HTC exactly what has to be released to make you happy and fill out the historical whatever, never for second tollerated that kind of attitiude from your children because you wanted them to turn into good adults? And how many other parents children are watching you in these forums?
Pyro, everything you guys build is amazing. I remember in AW we would joke about what the game might be like 10-15 years in the future. AH is a living fantasy come true because most of those jokes are now standard technology. I wish people appreciated your work of art more. But, not many of them have the long term perspective to gauge your works evolution by.
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B-29 is on the poll, its gonna win by a land slide I still voted for the Pe-2 though :pray
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B-29 must be a troll from HTC....I hope. :)
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It would be nice if B-29 was code talk for Il-4 plus an early La-5 so I can have my Bass mouth skin
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Ki-45 here
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Crap, I didn't see the poll till it was too late.
the poll is in-game when you log in to an arena.
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i've had a few drinks so i already forgot the list of planes on the poll. This is what i think i remember
Ki-43
Ki-45
A-26
He-111
Me-410
B-29
Pe-2
we need a poll to see how the voting goes between the board and in game results, with chats and graphs
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I got bored earlier...so I did this:
ki43 45
ki44 8
ki45 19
d4y 3
a26 19
sb2c 7
p61 18
me410 34
beau 44
iar81c 3
mig3 12
d520 7
pe2 21
b29 10
he111 48
se5a 2
albatross
mig1
ki100 5
ju52 6
do17 13
lagg3 7
stirling 2
p63 2
gladiator 2
spitmxii?
spad13
bomrang 10
sm79 4
wellington 4
ventura
cr-42 2
tu2 10
fw200
do217 11
ju188
g55 11
j2m 7
he177 2
re2001 2
do335
b6n
iar81 2
yak3 13
pzl p24
any mig
PBY5 2
P40N 3
hs123
i153
d4y 3
me210 2
swordfish
mc200 2
a36
meteor f3
M18
metermk3 3
vg33
meteor 7
judy
tempest ii
lysander
ju57
pe8
blch151/2
ju88g
whirlwind
iar80
p36
he219
ms406
la3
oscar
A20?
M26
panther
m8
I think I may go and retire now :lol
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Just did a rough tally on the poll, looks like the Ki-43, He-111 and Beaufighter
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B-29 is in the poll? :lol
Seriously, I would be surprised if the B-29 doesn't win, followed by the A-26.
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anything made before 1943 :aok
god if thay actually take the poll seriously and B29 wins im gonna die laughing
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it'd not April is it? They might as well start the B29 and just give us number 2 as the winner.
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i'm pretty sure hitech will use veto power as he sees fit.
otherwise. :uhoh
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Ki-43 all the way. Hope we get the II and III versions as well. Wish the Ki-44 was on there. Was close one for me between the Ki-45 and Ki-43, but I would like to see the Ki-43 esp in the special events. At least we are getting the Betty.
Ki-43 :aok
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HTC has added the B29 because its what a portion of the community wants. Its very good business, although I do hope the A26 wins
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I kinda hate to say it, but given the likely choices for the winner, the B-29A and A-26B, I kinda see this as a chance to get the B-29A monkey off of our backs once and for all, never having to endure a B-29 thread again.
Of course, we'd then be inundated with requests for the nuke.
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I think Ki-43 will win out in this tough campaign pray
now let's sing praise to Hayabusa! devil
http://www.youtube.com/v/MS12isLjS5w&fmt=18
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I voted for the Me410. Why? Because I don't think anything Japanese or Russian has a shot and the Beaufighter is too obscure for most Americans (and the talk on 200 is very, very different than the talk on the forums, and much less informed) and the Me410 is a neat aircraft.
Truth be told, the only aircraft on the list I will be annoyed if it wins is the A-26.
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Dont be so sure. In the last poll it was a tie between the Yak-3 and the P-39 at the end wasn't it? The P-39 won the poll. Vote for what you really want.
Me, I voted Ki-43.
I wont be yelling "hooray" if the B-29 wins it. Its use in SEA events will be very restricted. Much as I dont care for the A-26 at least its an a/c that I can see in a SEA setup for ETO 1945. That being said, any new plane is welcome, and yes, even the B-29 limited as though I think its use is.
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Dont be so sure. In the last poll it was a tie between the Yak-3 and the P-39 at the end wasn't it? The P-39 won the poll.
Wrong. See here: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,299295.0.html :)
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Was close one for me between the Ki-45 and Ki-43
You realize the Ki-45 was a sub-par underperformer with a light armament, dogmeat to even P-40s, and that its only real claim to fame was late-war dual-purpose as a night fighter (something AH doesn't do) and a kamikaze plane (something AH doesn't do), and that it never saw service with the originally intended long-range-escort role it was designed?
Just checking. :O
:bolt:
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Tell me again why the MA guys wouldn't want a Beaufighter? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Beaufighter-Mark-X.jpg)
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Much as I'd agree to having it in Aces High... I dunno if I'd ever fly it!
It's so...
so....
smurfy!!!! (edit: effin ugly... lol replaced with "smurfy")
I'd much rather hide my shame (or perhaps just my vanity) and fly a Mossie VI!
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Vote for what you want anyways. I remember being very skeptical the P-39 would see the light of day in AH just because of its reputation amongst the players but was glad it got enough notice in the voting process it was added eventually.
Beaufighter. I like but but it fills no holes in the planeset. Its a slower Mosquito VI.
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Tell me again why the MA guys wouldn't want a Beaufighter? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Beaufighter-Mark-X.jpg)
that is a odd looking nose on there.
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Truth be told, the only aircraft on the list I will be annoyed if it wins is the A-26.
I think it's going to be between the B-29 and the A-26 just because people think they're "neat" and from how they think the planes perform from watching the History Channel.
ack-ack
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Tell me again why the MA guys wouldn't want a Beaufighter? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Beaufighter-Mark-X.jpg)
If it's more manoeuverable than the B-25, and uglier than the Mossie....I might just fly it a lot someday ;)
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Been away for a long time..maybe 15 months and got the itch. When I left the Hellcat was one of my favorite even with the F/Up views. I'd love to come back to an F6F that did what it was supposed to do. The latest model did not make the war but what a ride that would be here. What's the ENY ...perk it 50?
(http://k41.pbase.com/u13/marauder61/upload/41592946.pbaseIMG_9870.jpg)
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSEyLVIOjrGuJDStrLrwsq0TqkY_BLgrw2aGoGAKTRQW5zd2hw&t=1&usg=__b9aOS9D1R8gr7yaGqpWUNEy-mkQ=)(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPX5QPq9iuazMwieIUfk9QcoHIebbPPSIFYezYL_h7ET3OMxg&t=1&usg=__W7SapcBsztv8QTzlR2Dai1FxuCI=)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii226/A8TOOL/accident1.jpg) Last pick just looks cool ;)
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first two picks are BearCats and last is a TBM, please drive through.
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Would have wanted to see the Ki44 "Tojo", for games sake should have voted HE111 but voted Ki45.
Cmon guys I know your all patriotic but for games sake do we really need another American plane. :)
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When given a choice, the MA vets are going to make the sensable choice for the place they spend 98% of their time. The MA.
Cannons, more than 4 50.s, power, or speed are the only things that matter in the MA. Untill all of the late war power rides are given up by HTC, they will never waste their votes for anything that is meaningful to scenarios.
If the Oscar and the G55 were already finsihed and could be loaded up tomorrow. And Pyro said vote for one to be released in 48 hours and the other will be released in 48 days. Which one would we be blowing ourselves away with in two days? Unless Pyro goes his own way, there is a very good chance the aircraft that most meets the criteria for the MA got the most votes at the MOTD today.
Being guys, you might take the old adage to heart which head we vote with when it comes to the illusion of self gratification or power.
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Its going to be an American plane just like the last vote. The ones we really need will be taken out in the first round. Just a wild guess but I'm betting the A-26 will be the winner.
In all honesty that is just what we don't need in this game. I would really like to see the J2M Raiden or Ki-45, along with He-111 and either a Pe-2 or TU-2 instead of an A-26.
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I still think we need a perked bomber which can do a bit more than just 'go quickly'.
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You realize the Ki-45 was a sub-par underperformer with a light armament, dogmeat to even P-40s, and that its only real claim to fame was late-war dual-purpose as a night fighter (something AH doesn't do) and a kamikaze plane (something AH doesn't do), and that it never saw service with the originally intended long-range-escort role it was designed?
Just checking. :O
:bolt:
The something AH doesnt do argument is invalid as there are several things that Ah "doesnt do" that we have things that did. And a bunch of things that werent or very very rarely done IRL that AH does
Regardless,We dont need night to have a night fighter. Its not like these planes NEVER flew during the day. But that most of their missions were done at night. Kinda like the Lancaster. Which we DO have.
And BTW. We have the ability to have nights. We had nights regularly. We still occasionally do have nights So to say that nights is something that AH doesnt do is less then accurate
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I still think we need a perked bomber which can do a bit more than just 'go quickly'.
It seems that the speed category is the biggest deciding factor in assigning perk points, with firepower and ordnance capability thrown in for icing on the cake. The B29 is going to be a Lancaster on steroids and hyped up on caffeine. I still do not understand why a small perk has not been applied to the Lancaster, B24's, and B17's. Between destructive capabilities, range, and defensive abilities between the 3, they are tops in the game for bring down ground targets. Yeah yeah "they go down in flames when I go after them", etc etc etc. But the fact remains those bombers abilities are quite impressive.
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My preference would be for something that fills holes in the early planeset like the Ki43 or He-111. Early planes tend to have more interesting colour schemes to skin as well. However I can't see the MA crowd looking beyond the US uber planes, the A-26 and B-29. Maybe enough fighter pilots voting will swing it away from a bomber though.
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I vote for no American planes.
The 29 should only be introduced near the end of AH's existence. When the game will and should end with the oft asked for nuke.
Seriously though. Me personally I'd love to have the P61 or A-26.
But in all honestly. We're way overloaded with American and British planes and their variants.
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It seems that the speed category is the biggest deciding factor in assigning perk points, with firepower and ordnance capability thrown in for icing on the cake. The B29 is going to be a Lancaster on steroids and hyped up on caffeine. I still do not understand why a small perk has not been applied to the Lancaster, B24's, and B17's. Between destructive capabilities, range, and defensive abilities between the 3, they are tops in the game for bring down ground targets. Yeah yeah "they go down in flames when I go after them", etc etc etc. But the fact remains those bombers abilities are quite impressive.
Its gunnery should be better too. although given the remote controlled lazer guns bombers already have. I dont think its possible
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It seems that the speed category is the biggest deciding factor in assigning perk points, with firepower and ordnance capability thrown in for icing on the cake. The B29 is going to be a Lancaster on steroids and hyped up on caffeine. I still do not understand why a small perk has not been applied to the Lancaster, B24's, and B17's. Between destructive capabilities, range, and defensive abilities between the 3, they are tops in the game for bring down ground targets. Yeah yeah "they go down in flames when I go after them", etc etc etc. But the fact remains those bombers abilities are quite impressive.
Bomber perks are pretty pointless for the way its set up now. the only perked bomber is the 234 and even with those who have a ton of bomber perks it remains a hangar queen.
Heres a suggestion No cost for taking a single bomber up. But make flying a formation of them perked. After all in no other planes to you essentially get 3 lives.
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(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/AARG/images/d520-2.jpg)
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Really disappointed to see the P-61 not in the poll, I really wanted to skin some more black planes. Not to mention it looks sexy with invasion stripes. So I guess the Beau gets my vote.
(http://www.historyofwar.org/Pictures/northrop_P-61_black_widow.jpg)
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Really disappointed to see the P-61 not in the poll, I really wanted to skin some more black planes. Not to mention it looks sexy with invasion stripes. So I guess the Beau gets my vote.
(http://www.historyofwar.org/Pictures/northrop_P-61_black_widow.jpg)
twin eng aircraft rule!!!! :old:
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Very much so...
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No Gloster Meteor F3?
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Easy choice, I voted for the B-29.
I would rather have something that would see daily use in the most popular arena (Late War) than a plane that would only be used in a SEC once or twice a year then go unused in the AvA.
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I voted He-111.
Although I am biased and vote solely on the needs for the Special Events Arenas. :old:
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I voted for B-29. Knowing that it will most likely not make it to the next round.
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The problem with the B-29 is that it will mainly be used to avoid combat. Most players will see them only as a little dot way up there as they pass over and flatten a town in one go. Of the two US bombers I'd rather have the A-26 than the B-29. At least I might get to fight that one.
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If the Beau gets knocked out and 111 makes it thru, I will end up voting that way.
After that we need more Rice :)
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The problem with the B-29 is that it will mainly be used to avoid combat. Most players will see them only as a little dot way up there as they pass over and flatten a town in one go. Of the two US bombers I'd rather have the A-26 than the B-29. At least I might get to fight that one.
All bombers try to avoid combat. That being said I know of a lot of players who will avoid combat in just about anything.
I would like to see the A-26 also, 14x .50cals and two remote turrets!
I wish HiTech would just add them both.
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If the 29 wins, it may be kind of neat to see how the remote turrets work via htc's modeling efforts
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If the 29 wins, it may be kind of neat to see how the remote turrets work via htc's modeling efforts
If that really works, the door is open for the He-177 :aok
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7521/he177fdl131.jpg)
...and the Me 410
(http://luftwaffefighters.co.uk/410/me410-1.jpg)
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The problem with the B-29 is that it will mainly be used to avoid combat.
Planes don't avoid combat, people do.
And there are ALOT people in ALOT of different aircraft that do precisely that,while complaining loudly about guys taking "undefended" bases.
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A26 has my vote, damn sexy plane.
Although if the A26 gets eliminated, I will vote for the 410, and if the 410 gets eliminated I will vote for the B29
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The voting list currently:
A-26
B-29
Pe-2
Ki-43
He-111
Me410
Beaufighter
Which one I do not remember? My choise was so obvious I kinda voted quick...and the beer is to blame aswell. :)
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Well I thought about the 111, but didn't vote for it due to it's weak defensive firepower (would be nice for SE's like BoB) and relative small bomb load. I've always wanted the 410 as I think people will get a lot of use out of it, and it is a good looking thing! The plane however I would hope to see one day, is I think one of the most overlooked planes of WWII. I won't go into it's attributes here, as you all can research it for yourselves, but the plane I would MOST like to see in game is the HE219. This thing is a beauty and I would think most would agree, IMHO.
Nutz
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I had to do it... I remember reading somewhere in this thread, "You should vote for what YOU want...", or something along those lines. Well, I want it, so I voted for it...
He-111! :x
Truthfully, I had to think when I saw the Pe-2 in that list. It took me about 10 seconds to decide....and for me, 10 seconds was 9 seconds too slow to click He-111. :rofl
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Vote for what you want anyways. I remember being very skeptical the P-39 would see the light of day in AH just because of its reputation amongst the players but was glad it got enough notice in the voting process it was added eventually.
Beaufighter. I like but but it fills no holes in the planeset. Its a slower Mosquito VI.
That hurts squire, that hurts! :)
40-45, every theater of the war. No Mossie VI was out there lugging Torps like the Torbeaus. No Mossies in North Africa. No Mossies in New Guiniea. No Mossies in the CBI outside of a very few at the end. No Mossies out of Malta outside of 1 or 2
Ki-43 would be my second choice
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B29 is what voted for :aok dont dispoint me HTC
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I think it's going to be between the B-29 and the A-26 just because people think they're "neat" and from how they think the planes perform from watching the History Channel.
ack-ack
This is my expectation as well. In that case I will vote for the B-29A. At the least it will then get the endless "add the B-29" posts out of the forums and it played a much larger role in WWII than the A-26 did.
Also, if it is added it gives fuel to get the Ki-44 and J2M3a or J2M5 added.
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:noid
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If the B29 is added they will have to make the runways longer wont they?
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If they add it, will formation's be enabled? I would certainly hope it does comes with formations and that it's adjusted to take into account the size of the plane. I would say, make it's home field the 163 base. It would be a lot easier to just modify one field on the map to accommodate the B-29 vs having to redo all the large fields. The other thing they may have to change is the location of some of the 163 bases. Some of them have hills in the way of all "long" runways (trying to think of the map, but am drawing a blank. Very bad headache atm), and I would guess that the B-29 will be like a lanc with 100% fuel and 14k ords at takeoff. That being said, the perk price will probably be around 100-200 per bomber at this point, seeing as we really don't have many aircraft that can intercept it well at the moment. Once we start getting a/c that can intercept her, then maybe lower the perk price? We all know that most folks are going to go into low orbit with it to protect their perks, as if many don't do that now with the non perked bombers anyways. :lol
Now imagine one of Swoop's Epic Missions with B-29A's... :O :joystick: :x Me thinks the target Capital will have a bad day that day. :devil
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Once we start getting a/c that can intercept her, then maybe lower the perk price?
I can't think of any interceptors better than those we already have :headscratch:
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I think B29 tops out at like 285, definitely not a rocket ship.
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I think B29 tops out at like 285, definitely not a rocket ship.
Not even remotely true. With this day and age of the internet, things like these are easy to check.
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"No Mossie VI was out there lugging Torps like the Torbeaus. No Mossies in North Africa. No Mossies in New Guiniea. No Mossies in the CBI outside of a very few at the end. No Mossies out of Malta outside of 1 or 2"
You sadden me with your ignorant tongue P-38G driver. ;)
Well...the RAF does have the Havoc (yes I know its a US made a/c), and the Mosquito...so im looking fo a plane that can fill some holes. Holes dammit. Do you hear me?
I will look for your counter-rotating-twin-boomed-monstrosity and its Beau loving cartoon pilot avatar in the LWA. :D
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I'm thinking A26, although the Beau or Boomerang would be nice also. An idea would be to implement new planes/models based on historical precedence, not necessarily "What people want".
I'm not knocking voting, but hopefully the planes/upgrades would arrive in a sensible, chronological order.
<S> Oz
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If the 29 wins, it may be kind of neat to see how the remote turrets work via htc's modeling efforts
Exactly my point. The turrets as they are now are already remotely controlled. the only option I can think of is to dumb down the existing ones
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Oh man, the A26 and the B29. This is going to be tough.
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Exactly my point. The turrets as they are now are already remotely controlled. the only option I can think of is to dumb down the existing ones
Exactly what I've been thinking for a long time. I don't quite understand this talk about "how they would work". Why would the system be any different from what the sim currently has? Just because the gun operator doesn't have a gun in front of him doesn't mean that the system would be any different.
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<--voted Me 410
If that gets kicked out, He 111. Too bad the He 177 wasn't on there.
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I'm not sure where I heard that, but wiki says top speed almost 350
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At what altitude though?
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Pe-2 is the most needed russian plane, in my oppinion, and bare with me on this guys, the poll should just be about what order the A/C are added,
ie 1st place gets added first and so on and so fourth, what does everybody think of that, because we "need" almost everyplane on the poll so if they all get added?
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Pe-2 is the most needed russian plane, in my oppinion, and bare with me on this guys, the poll should just be about what order the A/C are added,
ie 1st place gets added first and so on and so fourth, what does everybody think of that, because we "need" almost everyplane on the poll so if they all get added?
I think that's a great idea.
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At what altitude though?
30k :)
For those that do not like to think in numbers: Imagine a plane flying faster than our Ki-67 but at 30k instead of 20k (you know how difficult it can be to intercept a 67), with more bombs than a Lancaster and having the durability & firepower of a B-17 (at least).
I can only imagine what it's like to intercept thndrEGG and his Ragged Irregulars flying that beast in tight formation... :uhoh
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30k :)
For those that do not like to think in numbers: Imagine a plane flying faster than our Ki-67 but at 30k instead of 20k (you know how difficult it can be to intercept a 67), with more bombs than a Lancaster and having the durability & firepower of a B-17 (at least).
I can only imagine what it's like to intercept thndrEGG and his Ragged Irregulars flying that beast in tight formation... :uhoh
The reason I ask is because most people don't have the patience to fly buffs to 30k which means most of the time the B29 (if it wins and HTC does add it) would usually be seen at 20K or so. This means it won't be as fast because it's not flying at high alt and it'll be easier to intercept.
How many times do you catch Ar234's or Mossie 16's flying above 20k?
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The reason I ask is because most people don't have the patience to fly buffs to 30k which means most of the time the B29 (if it wins and HTC does add it) would usually be seen at 20K or so. This means it won't be as fast because it's not flying at high alt and it'll be easier to intercept.
How many times do you catch Ar234's or Mossie 16's flying above 20k?
If it's heavily perked they probably will ;)
Even at 20 it would be a very difficult target, it's still more like a Ki-67 than a Lanc speedwise...
The Arados rarely go above 20k, because they are so fast that there is no real need to, and 20k is optimum altitude for them anyway. They don't gain much from climbing higher.
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How many times do you catch Ar234's or Mossie 16's flying above 20k?
Only Mossie16 sortie I have done was at 28,000ft.
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waiting for the yak-3. . .
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I missed the poll...
We must think what are the planesets that need more models, and most representative models, not only the planes we would like to fly around in...
So far, the US and UK planesets are quite complete... The British planeset could use a EW/MW bomber, maybe the Wellington. The german planeset IMHO only needs one aircraft to reach the same level: the He-111.
The major problems are in the Japanese planeset - now a little Bettyer - the Russian and the Italian planesets...
The Russian planeset needs desperately of a fighter, a medium bomber and maybe - I say maybe - a heavy bomber (maybe not).
The Italian planeset needs desperately of, at least, one medium bomber and maybe, maybe, another fighter.
But the greatest HOLE in AH planeset id the French... It's a pity that we do not have the D520, and one French medium and one heavy bomber represented.
I would go for the He-111 first, then move to the Russian planeset. Then to the French and the Italian one on each turn until all basic models were in here...
But I lost the poll...
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So far, the US and UK planesets are quite complete... The British planeset could use a EW/MW bomber, maybe the Wellington. The german planeset IMHO only needs one aircraft to reach the same level: the He-111.
For more than 10 years now, German Iron squads do have only a dreadfully slow & vulnerable EW bomber to use. I agree, getting an even slower one would close the biggest gap we have in the German planeset.
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I vote for the Beau, no the He-111, no the Pe-2. Gosh darn it I can't decide, they're all going to look so good in the hanger.
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. Gosh darn it I can't decide, they're all going to look so good in the hanger.
I'm almost glad Ii don't have to decide how I should vote :lol
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I missed the poll...
The Poll pops up in a box when you log into any on line arena....
I imagine it's there until you vote.
wrongway
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I went with the Beaufighter. But sadly, I don't think it'll make the first cut. Too many people want the B-29. Which it too bad IMO.
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What were the planes listed in the poll? Sorry, I haven't been around lately.
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For more than 10 years now, German Iron squads do have only a dreadfully slow & vulnerable EW bomber to use. I agree, getting an even slower one would close the biggest gap we have in the German planeset.
I have long advocated the Ju188A over the He111 for this reason.
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I have long advocated the Ju188A over the He111 for this reason.
.... and speed should be THEE factor in adding or not adding a plane??? :headscratch:
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.... and speed should be THEE factor in adding or not adding a plane??? :headscratch:
No. The Ju188A gives the Luftwaffe a mid-war bomber, something it lacks now. It is a bigger gap than giving the Luftwaffe a second early war bomber.
The Ju188 is better armed and faster, improving the two weakest aspects of the Ju88. That would make it useful in both mid-war settings as well as the MAs.
Certainly the He111 has a valid place in AH, but unless bombers are forced to fly at historical throttle settings, the Brits will continue to get slaughtered in the Battle of Britain setting in AH. The He111 is not a magical panacea that fixes the fact that bombers are flying at 260-280mph when they should be flying at 180-200mph.