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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: columbus on November 01, 2010, 12:31:13 PM
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change the LW arena's
one for furballing - no envy free for all no cap
one for base takers - envy imposed no cap
reason being is when you have people furballing and trying to defend bases or take bases at the same time it doesn't work, having multiple people each on there own page isn't a country working together. this allows the country to be able to work as one.
in the all furballing arena no reason to defend any bases, so its a basic free for all.
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If everyone if furballing and you want to take a base just go to a different one :aok
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one for furballing - no envy free for all no cap
You already have 50% of this with the DA.
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DA doesn't count towards your stats
after thinking maybe more just one arena strictly for base takers and the other the same as normal.
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Hmmm...
Furballing over or near a base - doesn't that tie up enemy fighters for your base-taking pleasure?
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Hmmm...
Furballing over or near a base - doesn't that tie up enemy fighters for your base-taking pleasure?
That's the way I see it. :cheers:
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you will still have to defend as with any map but the common goal of the arena is to reset the map. if your in a base taker arena your helping your country take and defend not going off and doing your own thing. that what the other arena would be for.
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if your in a base taker arena your helping your country take and defend not going off and doing your own thing. that what the other arena would be for.
What would stop someone from doing what ever they want in the base taking arena?
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When was the last time a map was re-set?
Is it even possible anymore?
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When was the last time a map was re-set?
Is it even possible anymore?
thats my point resetting the map is pointless in the current format, we had like 30-40 people at 85 last night camping the spawn
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Apart from my earlier reply, this wish seems to be yet another "It used to be easy to take bases, but it's too hard now so change the game for me" kind of thread.
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thats my point resetting the map is pointless in the current format, we had like 30-40 people at 85 last night camping the spawn
You could have took the undefended base next to 85 :)
Yes it's harder to fly NOE now but you can still do it :aok
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me alone? nah but as a group we could have, but that would have ruined the fun for the spawn campers.
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me alone? nah but as a group we could have, but that would have ruined the fun for the spawn campers.
Just to make sure I understand you, your complaining that their were ~40 spawn campers but you did not want to go to a different base so you could take it or kill someone so the spawn campers could have their fun?
You don't have to go alone, I've taken bases with two people.
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oh you can take a base with 1-2 people, but it's not gonna happen during prime time and its the base the enemy is spawning from into 85 , unless you have a good group of followers willing to go along with you, its not gonna happen.
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oh you can take a base with 1-2 people, but it's not gonna happen during prime time and its the base the enemy is spawning from into 85 , unless you have a good group of followers willing to go along with you, its not gonna happen.
Well you don't have to go to the post populated base, go to the base next to the base from which everyone spawns into the camped base (if that makes sense).
And yes you can take it with 2 people. GV bases are easy to take with 2 people, have one in a goon and a 2nd in a spit16 or something so he has 3 bombs to take out GVs fast, will be able to fight off enemy fighters without dropping bombs, and will be able to de-ack, also go NOE. The airfields are a little harder as it takes longer, but it can still be done.
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oh you can take a base with 1-2 people, but it's not gonna happen during prime time and its the base the enemy is spawning from into 85 , unless you have a good group of followers willing to go along with you, its not gonna happen.
Happened last night. They took V88, probably 3 or 4 people, and 40 people logged off....
wrongway
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and 40 people logged off....
Disappointing :rofl
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When was the last time a map was re-set?
yesterday, in blue.
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having multiple people each on there own page isn't a country working together. this allows the country to be able to work as one.
what if I dont want to work as one?
We are not borg. I have fun on the page I'm on.
I've saved countless vbases from 1 or 2 man sneak attempts by myself. Is that not defending?
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what if I dont want to work as one?
We are not borg. I have fun on the page I'm on.
I've saved countless vbases from 1 or 2 man sneak attempts by myself. Is that not defending?
then you go to the other arena and do what you want
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then you go to the other arena and do what you want
Instead of forcing people into a different arena to do what they want, why not take bases offline so you can do what you want?
Or would that be forcing you into another arena? I'm sure your idea is way more fair to everybody. :rolleyes:
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perhaps just add an extra arena for "basetakers" - no caps, no ENY restrictions, 1 country. kill as many sheds and capture as much territory as you like. :aok
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what if I dont want to work as one?
I've saved countless vbases from 1 or 2 man sneak attempts by myself. Is that not defending?
then you go to the other arena and do what you want
So, columbus doesn't need people who like to defend. Hmmm...I guess if you're not with him, you're against him.
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lol, wow you guys, why is being a country a hard concept to grasp? acting as one? if your not helping the country your representing why be in it? having one arena set aside for people that want to act as one and the other arena to do what usually goes on. TOTAL CHAOS! when someone screams ALERT BASE BLAH BLAH , someone actually defends it. when noone is attacking your on the offense.
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why is being a country a hard concept to grasp?
Why is not being loyal to a "country" in a video game a hard concept to grasp?
if your not helping the country your representing why be in it?
Because this game is about fighting with WWII equipment for fun. Sometimes one must switch sides to find fights without being in a horde.
when someone screams ALERT BASE BLAH BLAH , someone actually defends it.
I've saved countless vbases from 1 or 2 man sneak attempts by myself. Is that not defending?
And is such defense not working for your "country", columbus?
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what are you talking about INADOT?? defense is part of being in the country. when bases are taking cause 1/2 the people are furballing that the defense i am talking about. when a hoard it taking a base and noone shows up to defend it thats the defense i am talking about. or you gonna sit there and deny it doesnt happen? how about we just take the whole resetting the map out of the arena's, problem solved
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what are you talking about INADOT?? defense is part of being in the country. when bases are taking cause 1/2 the people are furballing that the defense i am talking about. when a hoard it taking a base and noone shows up to defend it thats the defense i am talking about. or you gonna sit there and deny it doesnt happen? how about we just take the whole resetting the map out of the arena's, problem solved
You're the only one seeing a "problem" to be solved.
I think the way it is works great. Do what you have fun doing.
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I guess I have too many perks, I don't suffer from "envy" at all :D
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columbus, this is a game in which everyone can do anything they want. Capture bases, defend bases, furball, GV, etc. I guess it's too bad not everybody flocks to defend a base, or attack a base, or help a friendly in trouble...but that's what makes this more fun than playing a single-player offline game - there are real people out there. Just try to accept that, and have fun however you want.
It's a combat game, so if you get to see combat count yourself lucky and know that neither you nor anyone else really dies, and hopefully you log off happy with the fights you got into.
Creating more arenas or more "you can only do this here" arenas will do nothing but create more animosity and result in fewer players in the same arena, which spells less fun for everyone. In the end, it's HTC's business to keep the most people happy that they can, and only they know and can decide how to best achieve that while maintaining a profitable company.
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what are you talking about INADOT?? defense is part of being in the country. when bases are taking cause 1/2 the people are furballing that the defense i am talking about. when a hoard it taking a base and noone shows up to defend it thats the defense i am talking about. or you gonna sit there and deny it doesnt happen? how about we just take the whole resetting the map out of the arena's, problem solved
Do you want everyone to just sit in the tower and watch out for enemy attacks? People take off to attack the enemy, enemy takes fighters to defend it, your country brings more fighters to defend it turns out to be a furball. During the furball one of your bases gets attacked, but everyone is already in the air fighting one battle so they can't just leave.
The only solution to this so called problem is making people sit in the tower of a video game and wait for someone to attack, this can take hours, people are not going to do it.
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columbus, could you explain exactly what's wrong with our current MA?
The maps a big enough if you don't like furballs go to the other side and take bases, make a mission.
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columbus, could you explain exactly what's wrong with our current MA?
The maps a big enough if you don't like furballs go to the other side and take bases, make a mission.
cause i am a rook for a reason, cause i dont wanna be a bish or a knight. i don't jump countries. i don't believe in country jumping. i joined the rooks to be a rook and to fight and defend and to do what i can to help the rooks.
and whats so bad about having a arena where everyone is on the same page. everyone gives there opinion but noone has actually made a point on whats so bad about having a arena where everyone wants to be a team and work towards a common goal. just a bunch of people poking a hole in someones idea cause they personally don't like it.
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and whats so bad about having a arena where everyone is on the same page.
we already have that.. it's called special events -- fso, snapshots, sec, etc.
anyway, the rooks "won" the war in blue on sunday.. guess they weren't on the same page. :rolleyes:
nobody's made a point?
how bout this point:
Your idea sucks. I (and most people) want to do what we want to do at any given time while in the game.. whether it's help take a base, defend one, sit in the tower and bs on 200, furball, or dick around in a GV, etc. etc. etc.. we just aren't doing what YOU want us to do WHEN you want us to..
quit worrying about what other people are doing or not doing, and you'll be much happier, and less annoying to your countrymen. :aok
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we already have that.. it's called special events -- fso, snapshots, sec, etc.
quit worrying about what other people are doing or not doing, and you'll be much happier, and less annoying to your countrymen. :aok
so those count towards your score??
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and whats so bad about having a arena where everyone is on the same page. everyone gives there opinion but noone has actually made a point on whats so bad about having a arena where everyone wants to be a team and work towards a common goal.
Your very basic premise is wrong in two ways:
First, that players clearly divide into several groups, among them "furballers" and "base grabbers".
The overwhelming majority of players don't fit into any category. They do a bit of this, a bit of that, just how they feel at any given time, depending on mood & circumstances. And it's often not even clear during a sortie whuch role a player is playing now. I have taken off to protect our CV from enemy bombers and ended up "furballing" because the CV was already dead or not threatened at all. I have flown to an enemy base to furball a bit, and ended up killing the last 3 town buildings so that the landed goon pilot could run his troops. It's a totally grey area, and while leaning towards one way or another, most pilots are "grey", not black and white. The true furballers & war-winners are a minority. Just a very vocal one.
What made the MA such a success IS the sandbox mode. That (on a good day) you can do ALL at any time. You do not have do decide who or what you are. You can enter the arena and think "whats up today?". Diversity is good.
Second, that if there is a pure "war" arena, everyone will automatically work towards a common goal, and your frustrations from not getting any response will decrease.
It's far from that. You will still have a dozen generals shouting orders & insults at each other. "Attack here!" - "No, help defend here" - "Everybody join my mission"
You see this far too often in MA: half a dozen guys are frustrated because their side is getting kicked around. They agree: It's time to mount an offensive! And what happens? Everyone of them is attacking a different base while getting upset about getting no help from his team.
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everyone gives there opinion but noone has actually made a point on whats so bad about having a arena where everyone wants to be a team and work towards a common goal. just a bunch of people poking a hole in someones idea cause they personally don't like it.
Hmmm....
Creating more arenas or more "you can only do this here" arenas will do nothing but create more animosity and result in fewer players in the same arena, which spells less fun for everyone. In the end, it's HTC's business to keep the most people happy that they can, and only they know and can decide how to best achieve that while maintaining a profitable company.
And personally, whatever "country" I'm currently on will see me help defend or attack as needed. I'll GV or fly CAP or S&D or whatever I feel like to help that side. And if the fights dry up and I feel like switching sides, I'll either fight the third side instead of the side I just left, or I'll just go to another arena. Score and rank mean nothing to me so I don't care where I am, as long as I can find fun fights.
so those count towards your score??
Well if you're into score, then I guess you're missing out on some of the great things this game offers:
special events -- fso, snapshots, sec, etc.
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so those count towards your score??
Yes, the "score" logs are kept here: http://ahevents.org/event-logs.html
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Your very basic premise is wrong in two ways:
First, that players clearly divide into several groups, among them "furballers" and "base grabbers".
The overwhelming majority of players don't fit into any category. They do a bit of this, a bit of that, just how they feel at any given time, depending on mood & circumstances. And it's often not even clear during a sortie whuch role a player is playing now. I have taken off to protect our CV from enemy bombers and ended up "furballing" because the CV was already dead or not threatened at all. I have flown to an enemy base to furball a bit, and ended up killing the last 3 town buildings so that the landed goon pilot could run his troops. It's a totally grey area, and while leaning towards one way or another, most pilots are "grey", not black and white. The true furballers & war-winners are a minority. Just a very vocal one.
What made the MA such a success IS the sandbox mode. That (on a good day) you can do ALL at any time. You do not have do decide who or what you are. You can enter the arena and think "whats up today?". Diversity is good.
Second, that if there is a pure "war" arena, everyone will automatically work towards a common goal, and your frustrations from not getting any response will decrease.
It's far from that. You will still have a dozen generals shouting orders & insults at each other. "Attack here!" - "No, help defend here" - "Everybody join my mission"
You see this far too often in MA: half a dozen guys are frustrated because their side is getting kicked around. They agree: It's time to mount an offensive! And what happens? Everyone of them is attacking a different base while getting upset about getting no help from his team.
EXACTLY!
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EXACTLY!
So you withdraw your proposal? Good :aok
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Keep the arenas, but caps
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cause i am a rook for a reason, cause i dont wanna be a bish or a knight. i don't jump countries. i don't believe in country jumping. i joined the rooks to be a rook and to fight and defend and to do what i can to help the rooks.
and whats so bad about having a arena where everyone is on the same page. everyone gives there opinion but noone has actually made a point on whats so bad about having a arena where everyone wants to be a team and work towards a common goal. just a bunch of people poking a hole in someones idea cause they personally don't like it.
I never said you should switch countries, I said to go to the other side of the map or just to a different nearby base.
Why change if what we have now works perfectly well?
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EXACTLY!
So you agree?
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So you agree?
I agree that's the 2 premises why things need to change. i know for a fact not everyone is happy with the way game play is going on. but no one is willing to stand up and try make suggestions to make it better. people put up with it simply be cause no one wants to suggest better ways to make game play better. i didn't once suggust take all game play that currently going on to go away. i simply suggested a arena was created for people that wants to have more of a true country feeling. but you guys can't handle that you have your way and let other people have your way too. can ya? i didn't say take your way of playing away. why is that? everyone has to play yours guys way? and not the other way around?? wow.
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You have some auto correct changing ENY to envy?
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I agree that's the 2 premises why things need to change.
Then you either haven't read it or missing the point of it... by a mile. ;)