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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: oakranger on November 06, 2010, 01:51:09 AM
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I seen the most wasteful (in my mind) and pointless classes offer in a lot of colleges. For example, Univ Virginia Tech had a class on the show "24", UVA and Univ South Carlina offering a class on the pop signer "Lady GaGa" and some school out west teaching a class on the whole "Twilight". Is this useful for what?
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I seen the most wasteful (in my mind) and pointless classes offer in a lot of colleges. For example, Univ Virginia Tech had a class on the show "24", UVA and Univ South Carlina offering a class on the pop signer "Lady GaGa" and some school out west teaching a class on the whole "Twilight". Is this useful for what?
It suceeds in attracting some attention to the schools. You sure you didn't take a few classes like these during your time in college, because it is obvious you didn't spend much time in English courses.
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It suceeds in attracting some attention to the schools. You sure you didn't take a few classes like these during your time in college, because it is obvious you didn't spend much time in English courses.
Had plenty of english just really bad teachers that did not put efforts to help me.
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I seen the most wasteful (in my mind) and pointless classes offer in a lot of colleges. For example, Univ Virginia Tech had a class on the show "24", UVA and Univ South Carlina offering a class on the pop signer "Lady GaGa" and some school out west teaching a class on the whole "Twilight". Is this useful for what?
Surprisingly there are some people who will enroll in courses that interest them, without ever thinking about how these courses would contribute towards them getting a career when it's all said an done. I suppose these would be courses for people who want to be film writers though. A friend of mind told me there was a college offering a class on the series "the wire" too.
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Is this useful for what?
If it's not transferable to other schools then it's not.
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They seem silly, but there are plenty of people who make a career out of studying pop culture and how these events happen. Relatively speaking, Lady GaGa, 24, and all those other shows really aren't that original. Studying those events will help the individual recognize what it takes to make an artist, and idea, or even a fad into a worldwide sensation. They aren't just sitting in this class listening to music, they are studying why it become popular which becomes an investigation into society and human psychology. Maybe you don't agree with it, but there are definitely jobs in studying and analyzing Hollywood and what comes out of it.
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You sure you didn't take a few classes like these during your time in college, because it is obvious you didn't spend much time in English courses.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok :aok
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one of the colleges around here is pushing classes on critical thinking.
honestly......if you need a college professor to tell you how to make decisions........you lost the fight a long long time ago.
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I took a class in Verbal-Non-Verbal Communications when I was a junior in college. Everyone said it was a great course. Biggest waste of time, but got an A for just showing up. Years later, this same stupid class has actually come in quite handy, as you can tell a lot about person based on not what he says, but how he says it, and his body language while he's saying it.
Most of our football team took a course called "Introduction to Wildlife". Some thought it was a class on partying (I'm not joking), but the class involved walking around in the woods identifying at plants and insects. This was slightly more popular than Basket Weaving 101.
And to think I wasted my time taking Physics and Calculus courses. No wonder I was hammered all the time.
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a buddy of mine went to UT and took a throwaway course called 'Theater Appreciation' he said that all he had to do is show up and answer the question 'would you like to go to the theater' with 'I'd appreciate that' :D
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I'd like to take a class on Battlestar Engineering.
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I think the point of em is for people like me that are taking 4+ classes and they are all core. So its kinda like an easy class. I dont think their are any classes like that at my college though.
-BigBOBCH
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Surprisingly there are some people who will enroll in courses that interest them, without ever thinking about how these courses would contribute towards them getting a career when it's all said an done. I suppose these would be courses for people who want to be film writers though. A friend of mind told me there was a college offering a class on the series "the wire" too.
They seem silly, but there are plenty of people who make a career out of studying pop culture and how these events happen. Relatively speaking, Lady GaGa, 24, and all those other shows really aren't that original. Studying those events will help the individual recognize what it takes to make an artist, and idea, or even a fad into a worldwide sensation. They aren't just sitting in this class listening to music, they are studying why it become popular which becomes an investigation into society and human psychology. Maybe you don't agree with it, but there are definitely jobs in studying and analyzing Hollywood and what comes out of it.
Good point. Just seem like a wast of a class to have. Wonder if there is a class in Texas that will offer a class about AH. :D
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Just seem like a wast of a class to have. Wonder if there is a class in Texas that will offer a class about AH. :D
If you are a liberal arts major and are working toward a degree in a certain field then you'll select from the courses the college curriculum offers to achieve that goal.
So if you're interested in being a film maker or flight sim designer then one of the steps toward your BA or MA may be to take a course or two in "24" or "Aces High".
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It does several things, IMHO.
1.) Gives you a course to boost up your GPA. (If it matters to you)
2.) As redman555 said, when you are taking 12 - 15 hours of core classes, a nice easy course is a nice break.
3.) The college gains funds through these courses.
4.) I took listening to music my sophmore year, I was in band for 8 years before that so I thought I had the course in the bag. Turns out while I did know most of the material, I learned A LOT about composers and the composition of many different types and styles of music. As well as the importance and impact that music has had on our lives and the world around us.
5.) I agree with Jayhawk as well, for those who want to pursue a career in Hollywood knowing what makes up a successful singer, and even TV shows is an intangible asset to have.
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one of the colleges around here is pushing classes on critical thinking.
honestly......if you need a college professor to tell you how to make decisions........you lost the fight a long long time ago.
Cap, critical thinking isn't about teaching you how to make decisions. It's about examining thought processes and evaluating evidence, spotting flaws in reasoning and learning logic. It's actually a really very important skill that isn't taught nearly enough in schools at any level. http://www.criticalthinking.org/aboutCT/define_critical_thinking.cfm
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Univ South Carlina offering a class on the pop signer "Lady GaGa" and some school out west teaching a class on the whole "Twilight". Is this useful for what?
I'll let you know at the end of next semester :aok
Also... don't complain about colleges when your grammar and spelling is that bad :bolt:
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I seen the most wasteful (in my mind) and pointless classes offer in a lot of colleges. For example, Univ Virginia Tech had a class on the show "24", UVA and Univ South Carlina offering a class on the pop signer "Lady GaGa" and some school out west teaching a class on the whole "Twilight". Is this useful for what?
Probably sociology classes with a famous name to get attention.
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Cap, critical thinking isn't about teaching you how to make decisions. It's about examining thought processes and evaluating evidence, spotting flaws in reasoning and learning logic. It's actually a really very important skill that isn't taught nearly enough in schools at any level. http://www.criticalthinking.org/aboutCT/define_critical_thinking.cfm
i kind of figured it was something like that.
what you just described though, is using common sense. well......maybe a little more than that, but it's something that should either be taught at a very young age by parents, or the battle is already lost.
and believe me....i spend a LOT of time trying to figure out what the hell designers were thinking when they designed some of the poop i have to fix. :D
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I took a music appreciation class one year in college to offset the lab and lecture classes for anatomy, physiology, kinesiology and biomechanics, biochemistry and statisical analysis in business accounting...Best class ever because the professor had us listening to mozart, bach, et al and then he would toss in some Hendrix, Jethro Tull, Rolling Stones, Jim Morrison and would discuss how they all worked and branched from the same musical tree...I still don't understand it almost 20 years later but I really gained an appreciation for classical music in that course.
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I'd like to take a class on Battlestar Engineering.
pffftt I'd like to get into some of that cylon engineering ;) if you know what I mean.
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I'll let you know at the end of next semester :aok
Also... don't complain about colleges when your grammar and spelling is that bad :bolt:
What class are you talking?
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What class are you talking?
talking ????? :devil
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talking ????? :devil
Oops..... texting on cell phone.
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i kind of figured it was something like that.
what you just described though, is using common sense. well......maybe a little more than that, but it's something that should either be taught at a very young age by parents, or the battle is already lost.
and believe me....i spend a LOT of time trying to figure out what the hell designers were thinking when they designed some of the poop i have to fix. :D
I agree with you that it should be taught early and often. I feel like much of the time parents are more interested in teaching their kids what to think, and not so much HOW to think.
What you do in problem solving mechanical problems is indeed critical thinking. But I bet you had to be taught that and then develop it on your own. Critical thinking classes teach the same process, but they show people how to do that with everything, not just a particular problem or area of problems. It's a neglected but critical skill.
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Many years ago, when I attended university, the faculty of dramatic, film, & television studies offered a seminar in ...
... Star Trek. :D
I took part in that course (as a guest), and to the dismay of some students, it was not just about watching some old TOS episodes (Though we had the opportunity to watch "Patterns of Force", which had never been shown on German TV).
The series was thoroughly analyzed in its historic context. Precursors, topics, gender & racial issues, various cinematocraphic aspects, production, linguistics and so on.
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I agree with you that it should be taught early and often. I feel like much of the time parents are more interested in teaching their kids what to think, and not so much HOW to think.
What you do in problem solving mechanical problems is indeed critical thinking. But I bet you had to be taught that and then develop it on your own. Critical thinking classes teach the same process, but they show people how to do that with everything, not just a particular problem or area of problems. It's a neglected but critical skill.
bolded....probably one of the smartest things i've ever read on these boards.
on my being taught "how" to think? i never took any extra classes in shcool, and never went to college. my grandparents(they raised myself, and my brother, while mom had two fulltime jobs to support us) tended to make us figure things out for ourselves, which in hindsight, i think may be what you're talking about. it also may be a large part of the reason i can't learn "by being told" as well as i can learn "by doing", and i need "to know why" certain things have to be done certain ways.
for my thinking processes on my diagnosis's......i never attended any form of schools for mechanics, or diagnostics. my best friend(i've known the guy for 30 years now) got me my first job in the field.
i went through the normal progression of the "noob" at the repair shop. was given all the clean up duties, then moved on to oil changes, and tires, then to brakes......always in steps.
my very first diagnostic job, i still remember very well(amazingly, being how long it's been). i came in expecting to do the same old crap.....some oil changes, brakes, etc.
dickie throws me the keys to a ford tempo. it was a "no-start". he told me to push it in, and figure it out. i told him i didn't know how yet. he said he didn't care, now was the time.
i spent a day and a half on that car, and to this day, it is the only car that ever beat me.
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Cap, critical thinking isn't about teaching you how to make decisions. It's about examining thought processes and evaluating evidence, spotting flaws in reasoning and learning logic. It's actually a really very important skill that isn't taught nearly enough in schools at any level. http://www.criticalthinking.org/aboutCT/define_critical_thinking.cfm
Thanks - beat me to it.
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What class are you talking?
Next semester is my last semester at University of South Carolina, I don't actually intend on taking the Lady Gaga class. Even if I did, it is only open to Sociology Majors. I do have a friend that is planning on taking it.
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Next semester is my last semester at University of South Carolina, I don't actually intend on taking the Lady Gaga class. Even if I did, it is only open to Sociology Majors. I do have a friend that is planning on taking it.
Ah, fill me in on the class. It was my understanding that the instructor wrote a book on Lady Gaga and a huge fan of her. Bet he would invite her to a class.
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bolded....probably one of the smartest things i've ever read on these boards.
on my being taught "how" to think? i never took any extra classes in shcool, and never went to college. my grandparents(they raised myself, and my brother, while mom had two fulltime jobs to support us) tended to make us figure things out for ourselves, which in hindsight, i think may be what you're talking about. it also may be a large part of the reason i can't learn "by being told" as well as i can learn "by doing", and i need "to know why" certain things have to be done certain ways.
for my thinking processes on my diagnosis's......i never attended any form of schools for mechanics, or diagnostics. my best friend(i've known the guy for 30 years now) got me my first job in the field.
i went through the normal progression of the "noob" at the repair shop. was given all the clean up duties, then moved on to oil changes, and tires, then to brakes......always in steps.
my very first diagnostic job, i still remember very well(amazingly, being how long it's been). i came in expecting to do the same old crap.....some oil changes, brakes, etc.
dickie throws me the keys to a ford tempo. it was a "no-start". he told me to push it in, and figure it out. i told him i didn't know how yet. he said he didn't care, now was the time.
i spent a day and a half on that car, and to this day, it is the only car that ever beat me.
Well you see that your progression from a noob to an experienced mechanic was a walk down that same path. They put you into more complex systems as you showed mastery of the more simple systems. You figured out and mastered systems of greater complexity and used that knowledge and process of gaining it as a building block to master more difficult problems.
Obviously the main problem with that first car you tried to diagnose was that it was a Tempo in the first place man.
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Well you see that your progression from a noob to an experienced mechanic was a walk down that same path. They put you into more complex systems as you showed mastery of the more simple systems. You figured out and mastered systems of greater complexity and used that knowledge and process of gaining it as a building block to master more difficult problems.
Obviously the main problem with that first car you tried to diagnose was that it was a Tempo in the first place man.
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ain;t that the truth!!
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I took a class while attending college (Morningside College in Sioux City, IA) called "Human Sexuality". It was a 3 credit class that dealt with the both the psychology and physical aspects our sexuality. There was an option to make that class worth 4 credits by taking the "advanced" option and meeting for an additional 1.5 hours of discussion and completing extra coursework. The 4th credit did not transfer and did not count towards graduation credits unless the minimums were met. Basically, it was only recognized by the college. Oh, I took the 4 credit option and we simply watched pRon and read some kinky novels and commented on the differences in the sexes, etc. Fun stuff. There were about 10 of us in the advanced option, and I was 1 of 3 guys. :D
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Most of those classes are elective and low credit points. As for Lady Gaga or 24, a most major Universities teach theater and film. I did a class last summer called film analysis. It was a pain in the backside. Two papers every week then a mid term and final paper.
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Ah, fill me in on the class. It was my understanding that the instructor wrote a book on Lady Gaga and a huge fan of her. Bet he would invite her to a class.
Actually there is talk already of them trying to get her to come. I doubt she will, although perhaps the student ran productions could try to get her to come perform here
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Actually there is talk already of them trying to get her to come. I doubt she will, although perhaps the student ran productions could try to get her to come perform here
I bet if they offer her money she would show up.
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Oh, I took the 4 credit option and we simply watched pRon and read some kinky novels and commented on the differences in the sexes, etc. Fun stuff. There were about 10 of us in the advanced option, and I was 1 of 3 guys. :D
did they also make you watch 2D porn (a.k.a. hentai)?
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one of the colleges around here is pushing classes on critical thinking.
honestly......if you need a college professor to tell you how to make decisions........you lost the fight a long long time ago.
At DeVry "Critical Thinking & Problem Solving" is a mandatory class you have to take, usually it's one of the very first classes you'll take there.
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Cap, critical thinking isn't about teaching you how to make decisions. It's about examining thought processes and evaluating evidence, spotting flaws in reasoning and learning logic. It's actually a really very important skill that isn't taught nearly enough in schools at any level. http://www.criticalthinking.org/aboutCT/define_critical_thinking.cfm
I don't believe it is taught at all anymore .
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I find it more worrisome that they have so many teachers that are almost impossible to understand. I've seen some with really thick accents. You should not be able to teach here if your accent is too heavy.
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I find it more worrisome that they have so many teachers that are almost impossible to understand. I've seen some with really thick accents. You should not be able to teach here if your accent is too heavy.
that reminds me of my algebra class 4 years ago. the main complain about the teacher from those who didnt get a decent grade was that they couldn't understand her. She was from the south and had a really bad accent. but she was pretty cool and smart. I have also had an English teacher from England and boy she was hard to understand. there's lots of teacher that have some kind of speech impediment, should we get rid of them too? we would lose some great minds in our colleges if your rule was followed.
semp
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Good point. Just seem like a wast of a class to have. Wonder if there is a class in Texas that will offer a class about AH. :D
:rofl We are doomed!! The new era of noob pilots draws near :confused: :( :cry :bolt:
Long live the squeakers! :rock
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that reminds me of my algebra class 4 years ago. the main complain about the teacher from those who didnt get a decent grade was that they couldn't understand her. She was from the south and had a really bad accent. but she was pretty cool and smart. I have also had an English teacher from England and boy she was hard to understand. there's lots of teacher that have some kind of speech impediment, should we get rid of them too? we would lose some great minds in our colleges if your rule was followed.
semp
Great minds are useless if they can't transfer that knowledge through speech.
I also am not sure about the great minds being professors in colleges. While there are some teaching, many are in the business sector.
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I bet if they offer her money she would show up.
Right now our student population is POed that they paid Jenny Sanford $15,000 to give a 30 minute speach, then have 45 minutes of her signing books, meanwhile our tuition has recently gone up because of her husband (ex) taking away education funds in SC.
However if they gave lady gaga money to perform, sold tickets to pay for it instead of free student tickets (as per usual), and also had her come into the class. I feel that would be successful, more young people interested in Lady Gaga than a politician's ex wife.
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ok....lets test critical thinking.
my boomarang won't come back.
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ok....lets test critical thinking.
my boomarang won't come back.
Possibilities.....
Flip it over....... your throwing it backwards. :D
Bathe :D
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Possibilities.....
Flip it over....... your throwing it backwards. :D
Bathe :D
wait? you you have to throw it? :noid :neener:
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that reminds me of my algebra class 4 years ago. the main complain about the teacher from those who didnt get a decent grade was that they couldn't understand her. She was from the south and had a really bad accent. but she was pretty cool and smart. I have also had an English teacher from England and boy she was hard to understand. there's lots of teacher that have some kind of speech impediment, should we get rid of them too? we would lose some great minds in our colleges if your rule was followed.
semp
Funny you brought this up. I am working on getting a teaching degree. I am smart in the area that I will be teaching and years of field experience. However, with my poor grammer and spelling, should I not be teaching?
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Funny you brought this up. I am working on getting a teaching degree. I am smart in the area that I will be teaching and years of field experience. However, with my poor grammer and spelling, should I not be teaching?
grammer = irony :lol
I don't think it should discourage you. Having a teacher who can't spell has never been an inhibitory factor in my learning. 99% of the time we know what you're saying (even if someone pokes fun at you). Get someone to proofread your power-points or any assignments you put up, and be honest with the kids that spelling just isn't there for you. Language is a fascinating psychological field, there can be vast separation between intelligence and writing ability. Meaning, you can be smart but just not write. As long as you can teach, spelling shouldn't be something to stop you.
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grammer = irony :lol
I don't think it should discourage you. Having a teacher who can't spell has never been an inhibitory factor in my learning. 99% of the time we know what you're saying (even if someone pokes fun at you). Get someone to proofread your power-points or any assignments you put up, and be honest with the kids that spelling just isn't there for you. Language is a fascinating psychological field, there can be vast separation between intelligence and writing ability. Meaning, you can be smart but just not write. As long as you can teach, spelling shouldn't be something to stop you.
Thx Jayhawk. :salute