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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: dirtdart on November 22, 2010, 09:44:26 AM
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So, HTC decides to try a new system based on player input. As an initial run, it has some teething problems. Players mock the attempt over something as benign as a spelling error.
Grow the hell up.
Your conduct on the BBs is the kind of thing that would make me as a developer more reluctant to make any changes. Add a new plane you get "this is not right blah blah blah". Add a new map "this sucks blah, blah, blah". Change the radar setting based on player input "this sucks, blah, blah, blah". There have been some drastic changes in the last year, I personally disagree with some of them. The point is, until I decide to take on running a online business, in stagnant economy, with "experts" everywhere, I will cut them some slack. This game is my decompression tool and the cheapest one out there. The people I play with on a day to day basis are good folks and I do feel a sense of community.
You jerks out there pointing out every skipped pixel suck. If you don't like it, be courteous and work with HTC, and solve the problem through the methods HTC has established to fix the game. Try calling them for example. They will answer the phone and treat you as humanly as you treat them.
Flame away....
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When the owner of HTC can find humor in his own spelling errors and those paying him can not... it's sad day in AH.
Also, our conduct can get worse. We've all tried! Sometimes, we have a 'who can more childish' contest. Anyone who looks at the forums once can see that and the practical assumption would be that saying this would either be a troll, or an attempt at futility.
We're not jerks, we're just practiced at getting folks such as yourself into a bunched pantie situation.
We love you though, cause you provide entertainment! :aok
**Edit was to change the wording of a sentence to more clearly define it's intended meaning.
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Cupcake. Hide behind your monitor, zero responsibility, zero moral fiber. Courteous conduct is beneath you a civilized person. Insults are humor. The mockery of the work put into redoing the arenas is something I am sure HTC loves and embraces. You are a rat.
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HTC will never win, reason being, no matter what they do, someone will always whine/complain about it on the bbs, there is no need to get all worked up about it
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So, HTC decides to try a new system based on player input. As an initial run, it has some teething problems. Players mock the attempt over something as benign as a spelling error.
Grow the hell up.
Your conduct on the BBs is the kind of thing that would make me as a developer more reluctant to make any changes. Add a new plane you get "this is not right blah blah blah". Add a new map "this sucks blah, blah, blah". Change the radar setting based on player input "this sucks, blah, blah, blah". There have been some drastic changes in the last year, I personally disagree with some of them. The point is, until I decide to take on running a online business, in stagnant economy, with "experts" everywhere, I will cut them some slack. This game is my decompression tool and the cheapest one out there. The people I play with on a day to day basis are good folks and I do feel a sense of community.
You jerks out there pointing out every skipped pixel suck. If you don't like it, be courteous and work with HTC, and solve the problem through the methods HTC has established to fix the game. Try calling them for example. They will answer the phone and treat you as humanly as you treat them.
Flame away....
"Blah Blah Blah" is not acceptable content. Please clarify. :D
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Nah man, HTC has to take it on the chin, but we don't. The BBs are a reflection of the community that plays this game. If we collectively let the enablers of our vice get beat down day after day without ever sticking up for them... pfft. I am sick of the BB bullys. Hiding behind miles of cable in their depressed life virtual world.
We are the sum of our parts and right now it would seem the hairy buttocks are out.
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Leading by example is always a good idea.
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Leading by example is always a good idea.
Give the man a dollar. I made a thread a while back about that very theme. Guys with a zillion posts seemed to have a huge predispostion to mock the posts of new posters. Sport for them if you will. Indicator of character for me....
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"Blah Blah Blah" is not acceptable content. Please clarify. :D
This P-38 shot me down because HTC did not enable unlimited ammo for my K4. So I followed him vertical, soon ran out of taters (HTCs fault I could neither aim accurately or manage my E), he turned and blasted me out of the sky with a PK (clearly an aimbot used because HTC can't keep the cheaters out of the game as evidenced with a singular account on "youtube").... blah blah blah :lol
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Cupcake. Hide behind your monitor, zero responsibility, zero moral fiber. Courteous conduct is beneath you a civilized person. Insults are humor. The mockery of the work put into redoing the arenas is something I am sure HTC loves and embraces. You are a rat.
Yes, I am a rat who hates HTC SO much I've given him $1794.00 in the last 10 years :D I wish people hated me and disrespected me that much. Oh I know! since you are doing to me what you feel I do to HTC, then you should do as I do to him completely. Leaving out the cash just makes a mockery of your hatered because it's not truly heart felt :cry
Like I said, you are fun :aok
Oh, don't reply because I bet you use a monitor and since we can't see you, you are hiding. and we wouldn't want you to look the fool for saying something so silly. :noid When trying to obtain a position of higher standing in a discussion, ensure your spot is actually superior, or your opponent just might point out your argument's shortcomings. (just to head it off now cause you're my fluffy bunny friend... the word argue does not mean anything other than ones attempt to push their position on a topic to the forfront over others. No anger needed.. can be a happy argument)
Edit Was****Grotesque spelling error
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Give the man a dollar. I made a thread a while back about that very theme. Guys with a zillion posts seemed to have a huge predispostion to mock the posts of new posters. Sport for them if you will. Indicator of character for me....
He's referring to you and the topic I'd suspect. And the Jerks comment.. and the rest. So, since you agree, then you also agree to lead by said example, and since you support it, any further discussion of this topic would basically be you agreeing only to show by your actions that you actually are equal in moral standing to those you dislike.
Just a thought. :D
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HTC will never win, reason being, no matter what they do, someone will always whine/complain about it on the bbs, there is no need to get all worked up about it
:rofl :rofl I think he wins every month! How many thousands of peeps give him $15.00 a month? <-- that spells W I N N E R ! !
Good on ya HiTech :salute :aok
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is a tool bag equivalent to a utility belt?
Lighten up man. If you aren't enjoying the game then take some time off. Go to dinner, watch a movie, treat your partner to something special. Get off the computer and grab some life.
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Nah, I am just frustrated by the immature comments which prevail in these BBs. Call me calling a spade a spade immature, whatever. Defending the guys who flame, you suck.
Yup, I am behind a monitor, however I don't make part of my daily routine flaming dudes on the BBs. Some do.
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is a tool bag equivalent to a utility belt?
Lighten up man. If you aren't enjoying the game then take some time off. Go to dinner, watch a movie, treat your partner to something special. Get off the computer and grab some life.
I enjoy the hell out of the game, and my problem is not with the game. My problem is with the community here in the BBs that sit back and let HTC take a beating. I am naive enough to think that HTC reads these boards for improvements and feedback on the game. Threads beginning with a flame would not get a second look from me. All the valid comments hidden three pages in would not get read.
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Tool Bags? Is that what our maintenance folks call them things that they have covering five gallon buckets that have all them tools sticking out all over the place?
All the Best...
Jay
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Maybe I'm getting senile but what I just cannot reconcile how two players (DirtDart and SESeph), who have both been honorable in all my encounters with both over years and have never heard either of them berate others online in the game, can be so downright rude to each other. I'm at a loss here, although I must admit for the record that I haven't monitored channel 200 since tour 24. Maybe I've missed something by not monitoring the BS on that Gawd Forsaken channel but this just doesn't seem right. I have to admit that no matter what action HTC commits to the game, some folks are gonna be miffed about it as ya just can't please everybody. I sincerely hope that HTC doesn't take any of this BS to heart and continues to make attempts to improve gameplay but the community is not what the "Flight Sim/Combat Sim" used to be 10-15 years ago. It's the age of the "First person shooter", we just gotta accept it and work around it and us "older than dirt farts" will need to continue to display the old honor of the old community and hope others will follow. Well I told ya that I must be getting senile or I wouldn't have responded to this in the first place. :D
All the Best...
Jay
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A few people mock me for my spelling and grammar. I don't take it personal at all, but rather laugh about it.
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I have to admit that no matter what action HTC commits to the game, some folks are gonna be miffed about it as ya just can't please everybody. I sincerely hope that HTC doesn't take any of this BS to heart and continues to make attempts to improve gameplay but the community is not what the "Flight Sim/Combat Sim" used to be 10-15 years ago. It's the age of the "First person shooter", we just gotta accept it and work around it and us "older than dirt farts" will need to continue to display the old honor of the old community and hope others will follow. All the Best...
Jay
Spot on. I hope HTC does not take it to heart either. I started playing with AW years ago and have seen the quality of person, not the quality of pilot, degrade over the years.
The "first person shooter kid" does not get the concepts of dignity, nor the way the real world works. Cordially offering a well thought out solution (a la Lusche) vice the this sucks, I hate the game.
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Maybe I'm getting senile but what I just cannot reconcile how two players (DirtDart and SESeph), who have both been honorable in all my encounters with both over years and have never heard either of them berate others online in the game, can be so downright rude to each other. I'm at a loss here, although I must admit for the record that I haven't monitored channel 200 since tour 24. Maybe I've missed something by not monitoring the BS on that Gawd Forsaken channel but this just doesn't seem right. I have to admit that no matter what action HTC commits to the game, some folks are gonna be miffed about it as ya just can't please everybody. I sincerely hope that HTC doesn't take any of this BS to heart and continues to make attempts to improve gameplay but the community is not what the "Flight Sim/Combat Sim" used to be 10-15 years ago. It's the age of the "First person shooter", we just gotta accept it and work around it and us "older than dirt farts" will need to continue to display the old honor of the old community and hope others will follow. Well I told ya that I must be getting senile or I wouldn't have responded to this in the first place. :D
All the Best...
Jay
I don't hold grudges, so the next thread you might see me support, or defend DirtDart. It just happens to be this topic I disagree with him on. No need to take it personal. I doubt Dirt is. Now.. if he called me a squeaker.. well, then it's on! And I detuned 200 a couple of months ago myself. The forums can be like 200 though. You can read it and not reply, you can read it and only reply to certain things, you can reply to everything or you can ignore it completely. It's also like the Conventions. You hear people in game just spewing hate at one another, then you get em together and they are best friends talking about everything. Once back home, hate flies anew. It's MOSTLY a friendly rivalry, which is another reaosn not to hold grudges.
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No grudges here either... Just extremely frustrated at threads that have some really good content in them, littered with juvenille comments, tainting them.
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Unfortunately it's the nature of online communication. Even someone who is normally very friendly, can find themselves in a heated and aggressive debate on here. That's when you have to step back and think how you would act in real life. If you're getting mad during a BBS conversation, just think how funny it would look if you were face to face with this person in public yelling at them about the legitimacy of running to field ack.
I'm sure some do it because they were harassed the same when they came on, and I can't say I'm completely innocent of throwing a jab here or there. I have to agree with lead by example, if you see someone treating a new player poorly, treat the new player nicely. Also, the "report to moderator" button is our way to police the system of poor behavior.
However, I see no problem with joking around either, even if it's over a misspelled word.
I'm good at flight sims?
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My problem is with the community here in the BBs that sit back and let HTC take a beating.
HTC is without doubt one of the most capable and experienced MMO companies in the world today.
Those guys know what they are doing, and you can be rest assured they know whats going on with the community in the game and on the forums. Most of the drivel on these boards, like the smack talkers in game, is merely an exercise in rhetorical flatulence. Farting feels good you know, lets the pressure out, but it does stink the place up for a short while.
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Send them Scotch to numb the pain. :)
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I thought the spelling thread was rather insulting myself.
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Send them Scotch to numb the pain. :)
hey leave my squaddie out of this!!!!!
he is the personal property and pain numer of the Muppet's!
keep your dirty paws off his silky draws!!!!!!!!!
but i did here there was a sale on sheep over in the POTW forum.....
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Wow, SO don't say anything bad about the game ....dont say anything about the people.....dont say anything about the creators....welcome to the peoples republic of aces high :noid
Oh yeah, you said something about the people who say something about,,,,,,, hmmmmmmmm so where do u go from here
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^fail
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hey leave my squaddie out of this!!!!!
he is the personal property and pain numer of the Muppet's!
keep your dirty paws off his silky draws!!!!!!!!!
but i did here there was a sale on sheep over in the POTW forum.....
:rofl
:neener:
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Wow, SO don't say anything bad about the game ....dont say anything about the people.....dont say anything about the creators....welcome to the peoples republic of aces high :noid
Oh yeah, you said something about the people who say something about,,,,,,, hmmmmmmmm so where do u go from here
Say all you want, like an adult. Have some substance and understand your topic and audience.
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Give the man a dollar. I made a thread a while back about that very theme. Guys with a zillion posts seemed to have a huge predispostion to mock the posts of new posters. Sport for them if you will. Indicator of character for me....
I believe he was referring to you
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HTC will never win, reason being, no matter what they do, someone will always whine/complain about it on the bbs, there is no need to get all worked up about it
i've said this a few times over the years....and fairly recently...i think in the other radar thread.
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I believe he was referring to you
Yeah, could be. I will take that hit. Leadership is sticking up for those that can't. Leadership is a lot of things. Seeing a community of lemmings that watch the BBs devolve into 200, without being proactive, is a bummer. Hell the other day there was a thread talking poorly about a guy who does not even come onto the BBs. Pathetic.
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HTC will never win, reason being, no matter what they do, someone will always whine/complain about it on the bbs, there is no need to get all worked up about it
+1 QFT Never win meaning can't please everyone.
<S> Oz
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i've said this a few times over the years....and fairly recently...i think in the other radar thread.
You did, and I replied back, and then you didn't reply back again because you were proven wrong.
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You did, and I replied back, and then you didn't reply back again because you were proven wrong.
no, i wasn't. this thread is further proof........no matter what is done, people are going to complain.
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To the OP, making light of a bad situation is the kind of character I want to surround myself in the game. If you can't make fun of yourself playing a fn game then I just don't know about you. This weekend playing the game was poop for me. Yet I found a way to still have fun. I apologize for making alittle poke at old Hitech. Damn , there I go again. :D Haters gonna hate! :banana:
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no, i wasn't. this thread is further proof........no matter what is done, people are going to complain.
Well CAP, some people get there kicks, being a hypocrite. No matter how much sense you make. :old:
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The BBs are a reflection of the community that plays this game.
This is not true. Take a look at the numbers in the arena's and the numbers that stalk the forums. There are a LOT less here than actual players. Then, subtract the forum stalkers that no longer play the game, and you start to realize that only 25% or so of the player base is represented in these forums.
I played the game for 5 years before signing into the forums. Like some, I do now spend more time here than in game, but at least I still fly 20+ hours a month and have friends on all 3 chess pieces.
If you REALLY want to enjoy the game, turn off 200 and don't check the BS forums threads.
Just my .02
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Cupcake. Hide behind your monitor, zero responsibility, zero moral fiber. Courteous conduct is beneath you a civilized person. Insults are humor. The mockery of the work put into redoing the arenas is something I am sure HTC loves and embraces. You are a rat.
We're not jerks, we're just practiced at getting folks such as yourself into a bunched pantie situation.
Seems more like sand in the vag. :uhoh No mockery allowed in here. This game is serious business.
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This place needs a "I'm a b****, hear me cry" forum. Too many people crying like heart broke school girls.
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no, i wasn't. this thread is further proof........no matter what is done, people are going to complain.
Yeah and the point was, it doesn't matter if someone complains. All that matters is that subscriptions keep going upward. There will always be complaints. The last time i made that point you left the discussion.
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I thought the spelling thread was rather insulting myself.
So did I grizz.
HiTech
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See rule #4
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Yeah and the point was, it doesn't matter if someone complains. All that matters is that subscriptions keep going upward. There will always be complaints. The last time i made that point you left the discussion.
uumm.......i think we're both saying the same thing then......i said there will always be people complaining. i've been saying that for a long time.
and i haven't left any discussion. :aok
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See rule #4
wow and i was just makin a funny..................
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wow and i was just makin a funny..................
Guess HT looks at you like the rest of us do. You aren't a funny guy.
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wow and i was just makin a funny..................
well, our shenanigans are fun and silly.....your shenanigans are mean........ :neener:
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So did I grizz.
HiTech
My point.
Work for a year on a hotrod then have some clown tell you your pipes look uneven.
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My point.
Work for a year on a hotrod then have some clown tell you your pipes look uneven.
I just hate it when that happens. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, could be. I will take that hit. Leadership is sticking up for those that can't. Leadership is a lot of things. Seeing a community of lemmings that watch the BBs devolve into 200, without being proactive, is a bummer. Hell the other day there was a thread talking poorly about a guy who does not even come onto the BBs. Pathetic.
Leadership unites people. You could make your points more effectively without the insults.
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My point.
Work for a year on a hotrod then have some clown tell you your pipes look uneven.
YOU'd be surprised how many "hot rods" are running around, that A) aren't hot rods, and B) have crooked pipes.
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As a kid our hi tech toys had a wind up key or a battery, So Aces High is a marvel to me. I loved WWII war birds and built models of them. Now thought the miracle of the computer and the hard work of the folks at HTC. I can now fly almost any WWII fighter in this way cool flight simulator and chat with folks from all over.
The other thing about this game is I had a head injury in 04 that caused me to have a stroke in 05. This game has done more to help me regain control in my right hand than all the physical therapy I had over the past 4 years.
So I am not so fast to say things sucks in the game or I can do better or else I would be the owner of some cool war game. Being an old dude gives me prospective and I happy most days with AH. So like the song says. Don't worry Be happy. Things could be worse you could be playing with a wind up car. Thanks HTC for all your hard work.
R-105
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Guess HT looks at you like the rest of us do. You aren't a funny guy.
Polar i dont think anyone could lear at people the way you do!
the way you look at me makes me very nervous........
:bolt:
here have a daning nanna
:banana:
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Leadership unites people. You could make your points more effectively without the insults.
FLS, I agree, but I am pretty fired up. The vehement manner in which I respond to the invective emanating from the boards precludes me from displaying a certain degree of civility. Nothing on earth frustrates or angers me more than a bully, in any manner. Everyone in AH is a peer, a member of the same community. If the community has those who would treat others with disdain and cruelness, then the community either tolerates it, or does something about it. I for one have had my fill of bullies in here. The answer is not…hey bud, freedom of speech, you do not like it, do not read it. With freedom of speech comes responsibility. The internet and it’s anonymity has created a sub-culture of worthless excrement who feel they are obliged to mock others. They continue to do so as if they commanded the world, enabled by the very same members of this community they insult.
When an insult is fired away, the moderator has to 1. Catch it and 2. Do something about it. Meanwhile our living turd continues his day, damage done. We certainly cannot censure these guys, they would scream "my rights" although most will have done nothing to earn them. So, what then is the answer?
I for one will not sit idly by. Those who would, or join in the feeding frenzy, are no better than dog excrement, stuck inbetween the treads of you running shoes. Hey, it's all of yours board too. I did not like the insults hurled at HTC. They went beyond whines and were a personal attack. If you read those and said nothing, or jumped on the bandwagon, you by my definition are worthless.
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FLS, I agree, but I am pretty fired up. The vehement manner in which I respond to the invective emanating from the boards precludes me from displaying a certain degree of civility. Nothing on earth frustrates or angers me more than a bully, in any manner. Everyone in AH is a peer, a member of the same community. If the community has those who would treat others with disdain and cruelness, then the community either tolerates it, or does something about it. I for one have had my fill of bullies in here. The answer is not…hey bud, freedom of speech, you do not like it, do not read it. With freedom of speech comes responsibility. The internet and it’s anonymity has created a sub-culture of worthless excrement who feel they are obliged to mock others. They continue to do so as if they commanded the world, enabled by the very same members of this community they insult.
When an insult is fired away, the moderator has to 1. Catch it and 2. Do something about it. Meanwhile our living turd continues his day, damage done. We certainly cannot censure these guys, they would scream "my rights" although most will have done nothing to earn them. So, what then is the answer?
I for one will not sit idly by. Those who would, or join in the feeding frenzy, are no better than dog excrement, stuck inbetween the treads of you running shoes. Hey, it's all of yours board too. I did not like the insults hurled at HTC. They went beyond whines and were a personal attack. If you read those and said nothing, or jumped on the bandwagon, you by my definition are worthless.
i understand your viewpoint.....but letting something which you can do nothing about(such as anonymous turds pissing you off) piss you off this bad, then it may be suggested that you yourself could use a little help.
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FLS, I agree, but I am pretty fired up. The vehement manner in which I respond to the invective emanating from the boards precludes me from displaying a certain degree of civility. Nothing on earth frustrates or angers me more than a bully, in any manner. Everyone in AH is a peer, a member of the same community. If the community has those who would treat others with disdain and cruelness, then the community either tolerates it, or does something about it. I for one have had my fill of bullies in here. The answer is not…hey bud, freedom of speech, you do not like it, do not read it. With freedom of speech comes responsibility. The internet and it’s anonymity has created a sub-culture of worthless excrement who feel they are obliged to mock others. They continue to do so as if they commanded the world, enabled by the very same members of this community they insult.
When an insult is fired away, the moderator has to 1. Catch it and 2. Do something about it. Meanwhile our living turd continues his day, damage done. We certainly cannot censure these guys, they would scream "my rights" although most will have done nothing to earn them. So, what then is the answer?
I for one will not sit idly by. Those who would, or join in the feeding frenzy, are no better than dog excrement, stuck inbetween the treads of you running shoes. Hey, it's all of yours board too. I did not like the insults hurled at HTC. They went beyond whines and were a personal attack. If you read those and said nothing, or jumped on the bandwagon, you by my definition are worthless.
FYI. I'll sit through the sermon but my 10 percent goes to Corky.
Just wanted to get that straight up front.
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Dirtdart you're making excuses to do the same thing that you condemn in others. HTC doesn't need your protection. You break their posted rules and say it's for their benefit and a service to the community. You are just making yourself look foolish. If you're too upset to post politely then don't post. Stop being part of the problem.
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wow and i was just makin a funny..................
I think you need a sense of humor to make those ;)
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Ok. I guess the "community has spoken.
I am fine in my world. No help needed there. Thought I would reach out... no one was there. Grab a beer and enjoy the mug as the turds who post sling their mud.
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Ok. I guess the lemurs have spoken.
I am fine in my world. No help needed there. Thought I would reach out... no one was there. Grab a beer and enjoy the mug as the turds who post sling their mud.
Well, the way your going HiTech or Skuzzy will end your misery on the BBS
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Would you rather have players acting out/greifing in the game or venting that energy here?
An old adage is, if they are talking smack and screaming at each other, aint nobody dead yet.
At least Dirt has something to say opposed to Nate not quite understanding the intricacies of discussing social dynamics with adults. Dirt knows he will get flamed back to let him know he ain't alone. If no one cared about his opinion, no one would have joined this thread. Nate is too many things besides young which contributed to his bianry expectations that if he made a statment of victomhood in this forum we would change our preception of him due to our being bad people.
Too bad we can't just buy another round. These virtual bars are all talk and no juice......30 year old single malt...hehehe.
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......30 year old single malt...hehehe.
Bustr...if only I had the means.... mine are capped around 21ish, wife ack imposed.
Well, the way your going HiTech or Skuzzy will end your misery on the BBS
I did not get any "see rule#4's" so I guess I am operating within the accepted norms of your community.
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Bustr...if only I had the means.... mine are capped around 21ish, wife ack imposed.
I did not get any "see rule#4's" so I guess I am operating within the accepted norms of your community.
Sometimes the hamer falls on those least expecting it.
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Sometimes the hamer falls on those least expecting it.
If that is the case than.... INdeed you might be right. I say bring it. If a guys getting TOd about guys who lurk in the shadows, then shut it down. Have another who has 12 pages on why the game sucks with no reasonable answer, let in run. Some things make no sense to me.
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Flame away....
That statement basically alleviates anyone of responsibility toward the end of feeling remorse over certain words and/or phrases. You can't ask for something, or expect it, then get mad when you get it.
I remember a Shipmate of mine pissed me off and I told him I'd break his foot again (he was in a soft cast) if he didn't leave me be. He told me to do it, so I broke his foot. When I went before my CO, he stated to my now hobbled comrad that if he asked for it, he shouldn't piss and moan when I did gave it to him. The only words I spoke where 'Yes Sir' twice. He never bothered me again, nor asked me to break his foot.
Soooo if you're unhappy with the responses, or feel they are negative, or adverse, remember... you requested it.
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Cupcake. Hide behind your monitor, zero responsibility, zero moral fiber. Courteous conduct is beneath you a civilized person. Insults are humor. The mockery of the work put into redoing the arenas is something I am sure HTC loves and embraces. You are a rat.
You should take a good look in the mirror as your post displays all the "uncivilized" behavior you yourelf say your against. Good luck with your self rightious attitude.
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This was fun. :banana: