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Title: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jolly22 on November 26, 2010, 06:27:51 PM
Who do you think should be in the Championship game?

I think it should be Boise St. and Oregon.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: ACE on November 26, 2010, 06:29:11 PM
Probaly wrong thread for this but boise state and auburn
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: crazyivan on November 26, 2010, 07:21:15 PM
Probaly wrong thread for this but boise state and auburn
:rofl Why not Oregon vs. Auburn?
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jolly22 on November 26, 2010, 07:23:58 PM
because auburn doesn't deserve it....... Boise St. has been undefeated for TWO seasons.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: crazyivan on November 26, 2010, 07:24:49 PM
Who do you think should be in the Championship game?

I think it should be Boise St. and Oregon.
That is what I'd like to see but.. :rolleyes:

Comeon they will not put the 2 best teams against eachother. :D
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: crazyivan on November 26, 2010, 07:26:39 PM
because auburn doesn't deserve it....... Boise St. has been undefeated for TWO seasons.
I agree :aok
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jolly22 on November 26, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
Popularity vote, and who is gonna bring in the most money......that's what the picks are based on!   Kinda like how the B29 got picked  :aok
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on November 26, 2010, 07:54:08 PM
Who do you think should be in the Championship game?

I think it should be Boise St. and Oregon.

+1 and with that kill the BCS.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Raptor on November 26, 2010, 08:20:04 PM
Well this is redundant, because one Boise St plays a decent team they will lose. Of course they can be undefeated when they play highschool teams. Now the more pressing issue is how SC is going to beat Auburn on the 4th :aok Down with team Newton!
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jolly22 on November 26, 2010, 08:41:03 PM
Well this is redundant, because one Boise St plays a decent team they will lose. Of course they can be undefeated when they play highschool teams. Now the more pressing issue is how SC is going to beat Auburn on the 4th :aok Down with team Newton!

welll they are playing a ranked team tonight, nevada, and they are going to DESTROY them........im saying the score is gonna be 48-17 Boise
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Dichotomy on November 26, 2010, 08:43:53 PM
Dear lord,

The Cowboys are losing at a prodigious rate.  The Longhorns couldn't beat a 5 and 5 high school team.  The Rangers came in second place in the World Series.. hahahahaah..I hate them anyway.  The Stars, well anyway, and the Mavericks are wayyy past their prime.

Give me one, just ONE, BCS championship for my beloved horned frogs and I'll never say mean things to a newbie again.  Oh wait, I don't do that, if you DONT I'll START being mean.  

Ya I'm screwed..
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Masherbrum on November 26, 2010, 09:01:42 PM
because auburn doesn't deserve it....... Boise St. has been undefeated for TWO seasons.

They also have a fluff schedule.   Auburn most definitely deserves it this year.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Dichotomy on November 26, 2010, 10:41:03 PM
nahhh they have ugly helmets
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jolly22 on November 26, 2010, 10:47:54 PM
boise st up at half (;
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Dichotomy on November 26, 2010, 10:54:29 PM
I'm sure they're great young men and have a fantastic program but PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S RIGHT AND DECENT somebody pull a hamstring or something..

Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: fudgums on November 27, 2010, 03:17:57 AM
You have beat decent teams to be considered worthy, showed last night...
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: skribetm on November 27, 2010, 06:04:23 AM
boise st. lost to nevada. (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/fbc/7313178.html)  :O
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: R 105 on November 27, 2010, 06:29:21 AM
Florida Gators V anyone. They always win bowl games no matter who they play.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: fudgums on November 27, 2010, 06:37:04 AM
Florida Gators V anyone. They always win bowl games no matter who they play.

except michigan..
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jolly22 on November 27, 2010, 08:29:14 AM
What happened last night?! they thought they had it in the bag and slowed WAY down  :cry
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on November 27, 2010, 11:06:58 AM
first off this isnt a NCAA football chamionship game. the BCS is not part of the NCAA and the NCAA doesnt reconize it as a NCAA championship. that being said

Auburn and Oregon will play for the BCS championship, SEC should show its dominance over a overrated PAC-10 team
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Dichotomy on November 27, 2010, 01:00:06 PM
well at least TCU is going to be back at number 3 again...

Sorry Boise  :salute

Since it doesn't look like anybody is going to have the decency to knock off the Ducks and the Tigers how about Boise VS TCU?  That would be an interesting matchup. 
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: 68ZooM on November 27, 2010, 01:21:27 PM
first off this isnt a NCAA football chamionship game. the BCS is not part of the NCAA and the NCAA doesnt reconize it as a NCAA championship. that being said

Auburn and Oregon will play for the BCS championship, SEC should show its dominance over a overrated PAC-10 team

No this will show that the Underrated PAC10 (next year PAC12) is just as good if not better than the media hyped SEC Conference, Auburn and Oregon will be a great game, i just see more threats as far as team-wise for Oregon as Auburn, Auburn its the cam newton one man show, Oregon has multiple threats, extremely fast paced offense which wears your opponent's down, if it ends up being these two it should be a great game
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: uptown on November 27, 2010, 01:33:28 PM
Auburn/Oregon
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: flatiron1 on November 27, 2010, 01:36:43 PM
link to brackets for NCAA Division 1 Football Championship FCS level

where it's decided on the field

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ncaa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2010d1fballbracket.pdf
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: crazyivan on November 27, 2010, 11:02:17 PM
boise st. lost to nevada. (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/fbc/7313178.html)  :O
:rofl Opps! Oregon v Auburn now!
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jimson on November 27, 2010, 11:22:09 PM
Oregon is far from overrated, I watched their second half dismantling of a pretty good Arizona team.

I don't know much about Auburn other than the Eastern Sports Promotional Network likes them.

Oregon absolutely deserves to play for the title.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on November 27, 2010, 11:30:43 PM
Oregon is far from overrated, I watched their second half dismantling of a pretty good Arizona team.

I don't know much about Auburn other than the Eastern Sports Promotional Network likes them.

Oregon absolutely deserves to play for the title.

pretty good for pac-10, but they arent gonna play a pac-10 team big difference

just like everyone said ohio state was a good #2 team when they went to the BCS championship game. we all see what happen there. oregon hasnt played noone.  the only team ranked they play was stanford. arizona and USC are gonna be unranked when final polls are out.

and who did stanford play well just oregon and a arizona team that isnt gonna be ranked.  no cred there
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jd on November 28, 2010, 10:28:56 AM
Who do you think should be in the Championship game?

I think it should be Boise St. and Oregon.
They both lost, Oregon was shut out and Boise lost to Nev.(WTG Nev.)
Now what? :lol
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: RedTopp on November 28, 2010, 10:31:42 AM
um..Oregon didnt lose. THey blew out the cats in the second half.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jolly22 on November 28, 2010, 10:36:56 AM
Oregon was shut out

Where ya get that from?
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: 68ZooM on November 28, 2010, 12:09:55 PM
Beavers were shut out. Ducks haven't lost yet, Beavers and the Ducks in the Civil War next weekend
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Wildcat1 on November 28, 2010, 01:43:45 PM
anyone besides myself and Raptor think SC will play spoiler on Auburn next week? :rock

it is vewy likely....
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on November 28, 2010, 03:04:37 PM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Dichotomy on November 28, 2010, 04:22:12 PM
anyone besides myself and Raptor think SC will play spoiler on Auburn next week? :rock

it is vewy likely....

ohpleaseohpleaseohplease
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on November 28, 2010, 05:07:13 PM
Wisc #4, tOSU #6, MSU #7.   wounder who they will play in the bowl game?
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on November 28, 2010, 05:49:49 PM
badger will get one and OSU the another .. MSU will be left out.. probably capitol city bowl.

unless they play the SEC it wont really prove anything.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Masherbrum on November 28, 2010, 07:33:59 PM
badger will get one and OSU the another .. MSU will be left out.. probably capitol city bowl.

unless they play the SEC it wont really prove anything.

How do you figure?   1-8 are BCS games.   
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on November 28, 2010, 11:20:27 PM
i figure cause you can only have 2 team from each conference in a BCS game .

even if WISCONSIN , OHIO and MICH STATE was ranked 1, 2 and 3 mich state wouldnt be allowed into a BSC game. thats the rules of the BCS
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on November 28, 2010, 11:21:59 PM
Team    Harris   Coaches   Comp.   SOS
1. Auburn (2)   2nd    2nd   1st   9th
2. Oregon (1)   1st    1st   2nd    76th
3. TCU (3)    3rd   3rd    3rd   71st
4. Stanford (6)   5th   5th   4th   64th
5. Wisconsin (7)    4th   4th    7th   68th
6. Ohio State (8)   6th   6th   9th   54th
7. Arkansas (12)   8th   8th   5th   5th
8. Mich. State (10)   7th   7th   11th   T-38th
9. Oklahoma (13)   9th   9th    6th   11th
10. LSU (5)    11th    12th   7th   10th
11. Boise St. (4)   10th   10th   14th   T-44th
12. Missouri (14)   14th   14th   10th   7th
13. Nebraska (15)   13th   13th   15th   50th
14. Okla. St. (9)   16th   15th   12th   25th

you can tell by the Strength of Schedule why i dont feel why Oregon or Stanford or Wisconsin or Ohio State deserves to be in a BCS game.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on November 29, 2010, 12:21:35 AM
Team    Harris   Coaches   Comp.   SOS
1. Auburn (2)   2nd    2nd   1st   9th
2. Oregon (1)   1st    1st   2nd    76th
3. TCU (3)    3rd   3rd    3rd   71st
4. Stanford (6)   5th   5th   4th   64th
5. Wisconsin (7)    4th   4th    7th   68th
6. Ohio State (8)   6th   6th   9th   54th
7. Arkansas (12)   8th   8th   5th   5th
8. Mich. State (10)   7th   7th   11th   T-38th
9. Oklahoma (13)   9th   9th    6th   11th
10. LSU (5)    11th    12th   7th   10th
11. Boise St. (4)   10th   10th   14th   T-44th
12. Missouri (14)   14th   14th   10th   7th
13. Nebraska (15)   13th   13th   15th   50th
14. Okla. St. (9)   16th   15th   12th   25th

you can tell by the Strength of Schedule why i dont feel why Oregon or Stanford or Wisconsin or Ohio State deserves to be in a BCS game.

Well, you can thank the BCS for it.  Oh and would you want TCU, Ark, LSU, MSU, OU and BSU in the bowl game?   
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on November 29, 2010, 01:07:22 AM
no i can think idiots who think teams in the big-10 or big-12 can actually play with the SEC in title games, the SEC has won the past what 5 BCS games for a reason and has done it handedly. i think the last BCS title game that was even close i remember was the TEXAS-USC game and they are on par with each other.  like last year cincy and was ranked so high and Florida stomped them. and Texas got stomped by Alabama.  The rank they was given was no where near the what they should have been based on their preformance  on the field. same as with Ohio States last two BCS games. they got waxed by a superior SEC team.  it the SEC could have a SOS like the OSU's and TCU's and BSU's the SEC teams would probably be ranked 1-10 or close to it.

On another topic this automatic bid crap conferences like the ACC and Big East can get in to BCS games with 4-5 loses.
you lose more then 2 games i dont think you deserve to be in such a highly paid game.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on November 29, 2010, 01:23:16 AM
no i can think idiots who think teams in the big-10 or big-12 can actually play with the SEC in title games, the SEC has won the past what 5 BCS games for a reason and has done it handedly. i think the last BCS title game that was even close i remember was the TEXAS-USC game and they are on par with each other.  like last year cincy and was ranked so high and Florida stomped them. and Texas got stomped by Alabama.  The rank they was given was no where near the what they should have been based on their preformance  on the field. same as with Ohio States last two BCS games. they got waxed by a superior SEC team.  it the SEC could have a SOS like the OSU's and TCU's and BSU's the SEC teams would probably be ranked 1-10 or close to it.

On another topic this automatic bid crap conferences like the ACC and Big East can get in to BCS games with 4-5 loses.
you lose more then 2 games i dont think you deserve to be in such a highly paid game.

So, you are saying that all SEC teams should get automatic bid to a BSC game because they are the toughest and best conference in the nation? 
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on November 29, 2010, 01:44:07 AM
nope on 2 SEC teams can get it at best. them the rules , but  the 10-2 and 9-3 SEC teams are imho better then the 10-1 and 11-0 non SEC teams that are ranked above them. but do to people horrid opinions that why we get #1 and #2 teams and the #2 getting blown out of the water cause they where never worthy of being #2 to start with. last year florida was #5 in the BCS and could just as easily beaten #2 Texas as bad as Bama did.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on November 29, 2010, 01:51:39 AM
nope on 2 SEC teams can get it at best. them the rules , but  the 10-2 and 9-3 SEC teams are imho better then the 10-1 and 11-0 non SEC teams that are ranked above them. but do to people horrid opinions that why we get #1 and #2 teams and the #2 getting blown out of the water cause they where never worthy of being #2 to start with. last year florida was #5 in the BCS and could just as easily beaten #2 Texas as bad as Bama did.

OK, since you seem to be one of these "SEC is the best" fan.  What would you suggest?
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on November 29, 2010, 03:37:48 AM
oregon's years

Date    Opponent    Opp. Rank    Results
09-04         New Mexico     1-11 (1-7)    118     72-0    W
09-11     at    Tennessee     6-6 (3-5)    63     48-13    W
09-18         Portland St.     2-9 (1-7)    218     69-0    W
09-25     at    Arizona St.     5-6 (3-5)    68     42-31    W
10-02         Stanford     11-1 (8-1)    6     52-31    W
10-09     at    Washington St.     2-9 (1-7)    106     43-23    W
10-21         UCLA     4-7 (2-6)    88     60-13    W
10-30     at    USC     7-5 (4-4)    52     53-32    W
11-06         Washington     5-6 (4-4)    62     53-16    W
11-13     at    California     5-7 (3-6)    72     15-13    W
11-26         Arizona     7-4 (4-4)    35     48-29    W

8 of the teams they played had a .500 or below record and besides stanford they only other  2 teams  that whrere 7 win teams

stanfords year

09-04         Sacramento St.     5-5 (5-3)    172     52-17    W
09-11     at    UCLA     4-7 (2-6)    88     35-0    W
09-18         Wake Forest     3-9 (1-7)    102     68-24    W
09-25     at    Notre Dame     7-5 (1-1)    29     37-14    W
10-02     at    Oregon     11-0 (8-0)    3     31-52    L
10-09         USC     7-5 (4-4)    52     37-35    W
10-23         Washington St.     2-9 (1-7)    106     38-28    W
10-30     at    Washington     5-6 (4-4)    62     41-0    W
11-06         Arizona     7-4 (4-4)    35     42-17    W
11-13     at    Arizona St.     5-6 (3-5)    68     17-13    W
11-20     at    California     5-7 (3-6)    72     48-14    W
11-27         Oregon St.     5-6 (4-4)    65     38-0    W

while a little better then oregons record , they where crushed by oregon and only had 3 other teams with
7 wins the rest with .500 and below records

auburns year

09-04         Arkansas St.     4-8 (4-4)    100     52-26    W
09-09     at    Mississippi St.     8-4 (4-4)    27     17-14    W
09-18         Clemson     6-6 (4-4)    59     27-24    W
09-25         South Carolina     9-3 (5-3)    19     35-27    W
10-02         LA Monroe     5-7 (4-4)    89     52-3    W
10-09     at    Kentucky     6-6 (2-6)    76     37-34    W
10-16         Arkansas     10-2 (6-2)    10     65-43    W
10-23         LSU     10-2 (6-2)    9     24-17    W
10-30     at    Mississippi     4-8 (1-7)    83     51-31    W
11-06         Chattanooga     6-5 (4-3)    156     62-24    W
11-13         Georgia     6-6 (3-5)    64     49-31    W
11-26     at    Alabama     9-3 (5-3)    18     28-27    W

now as you can see auburns opponates only 5 teams has .500 or worse records and had 5 teams that where 8 wins or more and 4 which are still ranked.  

and people are gonna say based on that that oregon is gonna beat auburn???  

oregon beat nobodys and auburn beat somebodys and somehow peoples opinions make them 1 and 2???

if these teams where as good as they say they are they would be pushing for a playoff, michigan state if they felt they where snub even though they won their division. a playoff would have taking the answer to the field! same goes for the big 12 this year 3 teams in the south division tied could all have equal chances against nebreska. but a fear by meany would be real a SEC domination would most likely occur. but then there would be no argument when a pac-10 plays a big-10 in title game and then a SEC team vs whoever in another bowl and is undefeated. didnt that happen to auburn a while back in 2004?
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: 68ZooM on November 29, 2010, 11:44:14 AM
You can put all the Numbers up you want, Oakranger seems to be right, With everyone "Analyzing" or trying to do all year long with who's who and who's the best, i was watching ESPN the other day and Coach Lou ( you got to love this guy Mr tell it like it is) got into a rant about how the Sportscasters are over analyzing teams and how they compare conferences

Basically he said there's no way to compare Acc to the Sec to the Pac10,or Big10 and so on, every conference has a different style of play, Offences and Defences are setup Differently on opponent's that you PLAY on a regular basis ( conference play) the only time they get to play is in a Bowl game or a Non-Conference game then he goes on about so how can you really compare conferences when they don't play year after year, and i agree with what Coach Holtz was saying, in the real world it would be nice to see all the conferences realigned/balanced out


I'm just looking forward to the rest of the college football season, what happens , happens if Auburn and Oregon play then may the best team win, either way i dont see a blow out from either side, it's gonna be a great game to watch
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Dichotomy on November 29, 2010, 11:50:26 AM
Come on Auburn... LOSE already  :neener:
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: branch37 on November 29, 2010, 12:19:20 PM
The entire BCS system is a joke. 
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: fudgums on November 29, 2010, 12:40:07 PM
Oregon vs Auburn will be a great game IMO.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on November 29, 2010, 02:36:22 PM
oregon's years

Date    Opponent    Opp. Rank    Results
09-04         New Mexico     1-11 (1-7)    118     72-0    W
09-11     at    Tennessee     6-6 (3-5)    63     48-13    W
09-18         Portland St.     2-9 (1-7)    218     69-0    W
09-25     at    Arizona St.     5-6 (3-5)    68     42-31    W
10-02         Stanford     11-1 (8-1)    6     52-31    W
10-09     at    Washington St.     2-9 (1-7)    106     43-23    W
10-21         UCLA     4-7 (2-6)    88     60-13    W
10-30     at    USC     7-5 (4-4)    52     53-32    W
11-06         Washington     5-6 (4-4)    62     53-16    W
11-13     at    California     5-7 (3-6)    72     15-13    W
11-26         Arizona     7-4 (4-4)    35     48-29    W

8 of the teams they played had a .500 or below record and besides stanford they only other  2 teams  that whrere 7 win teams

stanfords year

09-04         Sacramento St.     5-5 (5-3)    172     52-17    W
09-11     at    UCLA     4-7 (2-6)    88     35-0    W
09-18         Wake Forest     3-9 (1-7)    102     68-24    W
09-25     at    Notre Dame     7-5 (1-1)    29     37-14    W
10-02     at    Oregon     11-0 (8-0)    3     31-52    L
10-09         USC     7-5 (4-4)    52     37-35    W
10-23         Washington St.     2-9 (1-7)    106     38-28    W
10-30     at    Washington     5-6 (4-4)    62     41-0    W
11-06         Arizona     7-4 (4-4)    35     42-17    W
11-13     at    Arizona St.     5-6 (3-5)    68     17-13    W
11-20     at    California     5-7 (3-6)    72     48-14    W
11-27         Oregon St.     5-6 (4-4)    65     38-0    W

while a little better then oregons record , they where crushed by oregon and only had 3 other teams with
7 wins the rest with .500 and below records

auburns year

09-04         Arkansas St.     4-8 (4-4)    100     52-26    W
09-09     at    Mississippi St.     8-4 (4-4)    27     17-14    W
09-18         Clemson     6-6 (4-4)    59     27-24    W
09-25         South Carolina     9-3 (5-3)    19     35-27    W
10-02         LA Monroe     5-7 (4-4)    89     52-3    W
10-09     at    Kentucky     6-6 (2-6)    76     37-34    W
10-16         Arkansas     10-2 (6-2)    10     65-43    W
10-23         LSU     10-2 (6-2)    9     24-17    W
10-30     at    Mississippi     4-8 (1-7)    83     51-31    W
11-06         Chattanooga     6-5 (4-3)    156     62-24    W
11-13         Georgia     6-6 (3-5)    64     49-31    W
11-26     at    Alabama     9-3 (5-3)    18     28-27    W

now as you can see auburns opponates only 5 teams has .500 or worse records and had 5 teams that where 8 wins or more and 4 which are still ranked.  

and people are gonna say based on that that oregon is gonna beat auburn???  

oregon beat nobodys and auburn beat somebodys and somehow peoples opinions make them 1 and 2???

if these teams where as good as they say they are they would be pushing for a playoff, michigan state if they felt they where snub even though they won their division. a playoff would have taking the answer to the field! same goes for the big 12 this year 3 teams in the south division tied could all have equal chances against nebreska. but a fear by meany would be real a SEC domination would most likely occur. but then there would be no argument when a pac-10 plays a big-10 in title game and then a SEC team vs whoever in another bowl and is undefeated. didnt that happen to auburn a while back in 2004?

Numbers mean nothing just like ranking and scoring on AH, dose not mean if you are a good stick or not.  Every player, every team preforms different day in/ day out.  never consistent.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Reschke on November 30, 2010, 12:14:10 AM
because auburn doesn't deserve it....... Boise St. has been undefeated for TWO seasons.

That has to be the stupidest comment I have ever read on these boards....other than something posted by Voss.

Just because a team with a cupcake schedule went undefeated for two regular seasons they should be in the BCS Championship with a loss to another great high school team from a weak sister of the poor high school conference??? :headscratch: :rolleyes: :rofl

IF Oregon and Auburn are undefeated at the end of their seasons...Auburn after SEC Championship and Oregon after playing whoever in the Weak 10/12/however many teams they have...THEN they should play for the title. HOWEVER...just to make sure this is politically correct...should either one of them or both of them loose then TCU should play the next team which would be Stanford IF they beat Cal.

BUT now...what is this stupidity about TCU joining the Big East??? Just how far east should the Big East or what is known in coaches circles as the Big Least extend? Naturally they will be good to go with that conference until they start playing down to the level of the competition in that conference...

Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Reschke on November 30, 2010, 12:15:35 AM
The entire BCS system is a joke. 

+1 QFT
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: BoilerDown on November 30, 2010, 01:00:01 AM
The only solution is a playoff.  I would really like to see TCU vs Ohio State in their BCS game.  War of the university presidents.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on November 30, 2010, 01:10:10 AM
The only solution is a playoff.  I would really like to see TCU vs Ohio State in their BCS game.  War of the university presidents.


There was a possibility that it would have been tOSU vs BSU.  Dose not look like it will happen so TCU may be the team
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Dichotomy on November 30, 2010, 07:33:27 AM
I love the way the season is ending.  Next thing you know you'll hear big schools AD's calling for playoffs if something like this repeats over the next couple of years. 

Also it makes recruiting for teams like Boise, Oregon, and TCU, a little easier.  If they don't screw it up. 

Finally I've been a distantly interested Oregon fan since I first visited Medford in 1996 and TCU has been my all time favorite team I'd REALLY like to see them play for the theoretical national championship.   
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Reschke on November 30, 2010, 09:00:19 AM
I remember back long before the BCS that there was none of this whining from schools that didn't get into a major bowl or didn't win a national championship because they went undefeated. You still had BYU and occasionally another team like TCU step up and win something but NEVER did you have the high school conference teams that whined the way they do now.

I do agree that they should have a play off system...heck all the other levels have a playoff and it works great for them.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Dichotomy on November 30, 2010, 09:30:48 AM
When they started the BCS TCU was doing good to win the band contest at homecoming.  But it's interesting to see the evolution of the 'have not' schools when the playing field is a bit more level. 

I started the season thinking 'ya the frogs will have a good year thanks to not having to play Texas and / or OU'  little did I know how far the mighty would fall. 

Oregon will probably hang with Auburn and TCU just MIGHT. 

Only the next few weeks will tell eh?  But at least it's been interesting.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on November 30, 2010, 09:53:20 AM
When they started the BCS TCU was doing good to win the band contest at homecoming.  But it's interesting to see the evolution of the 'have not' schools when the playing field is a bit more level. 

I started the season thinking 'ya the frogs will have a good year thanks to not having to play Texas and / or OU'  little did I know how far the mighty would fall. 

Oregon will probably hang with Auburn and TCU just MIGHT. 

Only the next few weeks will tell eh?  But at least it's been interesting.

It has been a interesting year.  No "one team dominance all season long" crap. 
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on November 30, 2010, 10:12:32 AM


BUT now...what is this stupidity about TCU joining the Big East??? Just how far east should the Big East or what is known in coaches circles as the Big Least extend? Naturally they will be good to go with that conference until they start playing down to the level of the competition in that conference...



they joined the weakest of the big-six its no surprise to me, not really stupid if they can make it in one of the big-six conference. this gets them a automatic bid with the BCS. no more having to be a atlarge bid,  but compared to SEC or BIG-10 even the BIG-12 the Big East isn't all that good, TCU was 98th in SOS their road to being undefeated was alot easier. i see there SOS going up a little more in the Big East. They need to show me against real competition they are good. beating nobodies and claiming your good doesn't do it for me.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: fudgums on November 30, 2010, 04:36:20 PM
 :lol and Boise is now moving to a week conference again, need to find another place to go boise.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Dichotomy on November 30, 2010, 05:16:16 PM
they joined the weakest of the big-six its no surprise to me, not really stupid if they can make it in one of the big-six conference. this gets them a automatic bid with the BCS. no more having to be a atlarge bid,  but compared to SEC or BIG-10 even the BIG-12 the Big East isn't all that good, TCU was 98th in SOS their road to being undefeated was alot easier. i see there SOS going up a little more in the Big East. They need to show me against real competition they are good. beating nobodies and claiming your good doesn't do it for me.

As much as I root for my frogs I can hope that will happen but 35 years of being a fan and most of them were subpar I can only wait and see.. and keep my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on November 30, 2010, 06:07:25 PM
As much as I root for my frogs I can hope that will happen but 35 years of being a fan and most of them were subpar I can only wait and see.. and keep my fingers crossed.

There are some good team in the Big East: West Virginia, Cinn., Pitt. 
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Mystery on November 30, 2010, 06:08:03 PM
(Please note that I am a rabid Mi State fan. Now stop laughing)

In all fairness to my colleagues from around the country, yes the SEC is a darn tough conference. And no, I'm not thrilled with the BCS rules. And yes, I was originally a bit peeved at MSU not getting a BCS bowl because of the rule, but really - if anyone would have said to me at the start of the season MSU would finish 11-1 I would have asked precisely what they were smoking.

Other than the national championship, bowl games are just a giant party and a way to throw money around. And that's ok until we have a national playoff system - which we won't. Just as long as we recognize they're a giant party and don't get caught up in SEC/ACC/B10/B12/WAC etc relative toughness assessment because it's all hogwash at the bowl level, it's all good.

To answer the original question: Oregon and Auburn

Sparty on
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: fudgums on November 30, 2010, 06:10:15 PM
There are some good team in the Big East: West Virginia, Cinn., Pitt. 

not this year, past years yes, maybe next year.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Reschke on November 30, 2010, 07:33:16 PM
You see what happens to teams when they move into a halfway decent conference though.

Just a few short years ago three teams from Conference USA moved into the Big Least....Louisville, Cincinnati and USF all left C-USA to make a break for the "big time conference" with major bowl tie ins. Well lets see...Louisville has either imploded or not lived up to expectations by the media darling pundits, Cincinnati had their run because they got lucky and USF made the Top 25 rankings a couple of times and now they are back in the same level they were in while in C-USA. At least in C-USA two of those three schools had a shot at winning a conference championship each year and those were Louisville and Cincy. USF got lucky because no teams they played took them serious and they had just enough decent athletes to make a game out of it.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on November 30, 2010, 10:10:27 PM
You see what happens to teams when they move into a halfway decent conference though.

Just a few short years ago three teams from Conference USA moved into the Big Least....Louisville, Cincinnati and USF all left C-USA to make a break for the "big time conference" with major bowl tie ins. Well lets see...Louisville has either imploded or not lived up to expectations by the media darling pundits, Cincinnati had their run because they got lucky and USF made the Top 25 rankings a couple of times and now they are back in the same level they were in while in C-USA. At least in C-USA two of those three schools had a shot at winning a conference championship each year and those were Louisville and Cincy. USF got lucky because no teams they played took them serious and they had just enough decent athletes to make a game out of it.

You are forgetting West Virginia.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Reschke on December 01, 2010, 12:11:27 AM
Where did they move from? I thought they were always a member of the Big Least??? Or maybe not but I can't remember.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Waffle on December 01, 2010, 04:25:29 PM
<< hoping South Carolina ends up in the Cotton Bowl....... :)
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on December 01, 2010, 05:16:56 PM
<< hoping South Carolina ends up in the Cotton Bowl....... :)

Hopes that South Carolina beats Auburn.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Raptor on December 01, 2010, 05:37:32 PM
I like underdog and considering this is my final year at university of sc... I expect a good game
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jolly22 on December 01, 2010, 06:02:49 PM
AHA!!!!!!!! i was wondering where my post went to!!!  Ok, the BCS would be an absolute mess if auburn or oregen lost!
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on December 01, 2010, 06:07:48 PM
AHA!!!!!!!! i was wondering where my post went to!!!  Ok, the BCS would be an absolute mess if auburn or oregen lost!

if auburn loses the SEC championship game i still think the 1 lose auburn should go cause i think they are still better then any 1 lose PAC 10 or big 10 team out there. and TCU may get its chance to put up or shut.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on December 01, 2010, 07:24:31 PM
if auburn loses the SEC championship game i still think the 1 lose auburn should go cause i think they are still better then any 1 lose PAC 10 or big 10 team out there. and TCU may get its chance to put up or shut.

Yea, keep wishing that BCS belongs to SEC. 
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: columbus on December 02, 2010, 02:37:42 AM
check the results of the last 5 BCS games no need to wish!
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: fudgums on December 02, 2010, 06:08:23 AM
If auburn or oregon lost, would stanford jump TCU?
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: jolly22 on December 02, 2010, 06:45:59 AM
If auburn or oregon lost, would stanford jump TCU?

Depends who the two teams have played throughout the year, most likely yes though....



You know what would be a great game? Ohio State vs a little sister team :aok Iwanna see boise state or TC whoop ohio states butt!
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Reschke on December 02, 2010, 09:21:11 AM
Stanford would most likely jump TCU based on strength of schedule in the computer component of the BCS formula....its horse crap but that is what you get for playing a high school team most weeks.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on December 02, 2010, 11:35:22 AM
Stanford would most likely jump TCU based on strength of schedule in the computer component of the BCS formula....its horse crap but that is what you get for playing a high school team most weeks.

How can stanford jump them when they are behind them?  and neither how a game till the bowl.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Reschke on December 02, 2010, 12:34:59 PM
How can stanford jump them when they are behind them?  and neither how a game till the bowl.

Strength of schedule....although there is a change they are talking about with one of the ESPN BCS gurus that even if Auburn looses the game Saturday they will still be in the championship game since TCU's strength of schedule has dropped off based on the losses a couple of their last cupcake beat downs took in the last few weeks.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: Masherbrum on December 02, 2010, 01:24:45 PM
Oregon's schedule is just as easy as TCU's.
Title: Re: NCAA Football Championship Game
Post by: oakranger on December 02, 2010, 02:53:39 PM
Strength of schedule....although there is a change they are talking about with one of the ESPN BCS gurus that even if Auburn looses the game Saturday they will still be in the championship game since TCU's strength of schedule has dropped off based on the losses a couple of their last cupcake beat downs took in the last few weeks.

Yea, BCS really needs to go.