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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Dantoo on November 29, 2010, 02:04:49 PM
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I've been playing here for a decade.
This is the first and only occasion where I have endured an atmosphere of genuine "hatred" for yourself and game. It is unsettling. I want no part of it.
Do yourself a favour - log in - go Bishop and just observe. It's not nice. You might want to reset the map or something because you simply need to show some sort of positive reaction.
respect and best regards.
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I've been playing here for a decade.
This is the first and only occasion where I have endured an atmosphere of genuine "hatred" for yourself and game. It is unsettling. I want no part of it.
Do yourself a favour - log in - go Bishop and just observe. It's not nice. You might want to reset the map or something because you simply need to show some sort of positive reaction.
respect and best regards.
If you are correctly judging sentiment in the arenas then people need to do something else with their time because its a game...period...end of discussion. Hate the players, not the game. Making a game better or improving it's infrastructure shouldn't involve hate...I sure hope you are wrong or over-reacting.
Changeup
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From my experience with D2 he usually gets it right and doesn't over react unless you do something to get yourself killed.
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Yikes. :O
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/Jayhawk1/map.jpg)
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Bish have 3 bases and getting ganged, its kind of dweeby.
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Bish have 3 bases and getting ganged, its kind of dweeby.
Yesterday there were Rook and Nit bombers flying in the same formation. Kinda silly really.
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Looks like the Bish don't have to go too far to find combat.
Perfect!! :aok
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I notice dar is down for the bish. I'd be curious to see the map with dar - my guess is there'd be ginormous dar bars over the remaining bish bases and maybe one or two planes up on the entire nit-rook front. Oh, and bunnies will be on 200 complaining that he can't find a decent fight.
Lusche, you were saying something about paranoia, I think?
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Bish have 3 bases and getting ganged, its kind of dweeby.
And that's Hitech's problem...how? It's human nature to take the easy way...in life and especially in a game. HTC has created the game - it's up to the players to decide how that game is played. If they decide to be turds and dweebs, what is HTC supposed to do about it?
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LOL they removed the non capturable bases...really screwed the pooch there.
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IIRC, there was a mistake with uncapturable bases not being on the map. HiTech just played a visit and returned some fields, not sure what he'll do to stop this from happening again. The 1 flashing base between rooks and nits right now tells me this is going to be rough. I bet we'll see a new map in about an hour and a half.
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Yikes. :O
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/Jayhawk1/map.jpg)
:rofl :rofl
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It took me awhile to see what was wrong, I was wondering why the map wasn't resetting. However, I now see that neither the Knits or Rooks have enough of each others fields to win.
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Thanks for such a fast response HT. Your very presence seemed to cool it down quickly. I hope it stays that way.
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This is a good example of why we need zone ENY, it is pretty obvious people won't police themselves.
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This is a good example of why we need zone ENY, it is pretty obvious people won't police themselves.
Among other things..........
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I dont know guys..... This thread has existed in one way or another for quite a few years. Interestingly enough...the few times Ive seen this particular ganging complaint it has always been associated with this map...
FWIW, I do not believe in forcing players to do anything. Regarding gameplay especially....do not mess with mother nature, as it were.
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Yikes. :O
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/Jayhawk1/map.jpg)
Thought the recent arena changes made base captures almost impossible? :rofl
ack-ack
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I seem to remember a Bish/Rook gang on the Nits about a month ago...different map, same game. Just sayin
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Awesome. :rolleyes:
How much for your babysitting fees, HiTech? I wanna take my wife for a night on the town...
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18 is surrounded by water, isnt that ideal for NOE strikes?... :airplane:
Oh wait, noe's can only be run when nobody is looking ...... :rofl
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ENY is broken, broken, broken. It does not address what it is supposed to address or fix what it is supposed to fix.
The same is true to a lesser degree for all the recent changes that have supposedly been implemented in order to encourage "fights". All they have really encouraged is massive hordeing beyond all previous excesses. None of the new challenges can't be overcome by having a 40-plane numerical advantage, or better yet cutting a deal with one of the other countries so you each have a huge numerical advantage all along the front, so that's the way gameplay has gone. The changes haven't decreased dweebery, they've increased it.
If HiTech doesn't get that after seeing the Off Peak arena today, I see little hope that he ever will.
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See Rule #4
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Verbal K.O.
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I've been playing here for a decade.
This is the first and only occasion where I have endured an atmosphere of genuine "hatred" for yourself and game. It is unsettling. I want no part of it.
Do yourself a favour - log in - go Bishop and just observe. It's not nice. You might want to reset the map or something because you simply need to show some sort of positive reaction.
respect and best regards.
Aw quit bein' a rumpswab, Dantoo. The reason the map is a mess like that is a -total- lack of offensive operations by
the Bishops. Period. End of story. If indeed Hitech did go in there and reset the map I would be incredulous.
I'm half tempted to really try and form an "alliance" of some sort with the Knights just to stick it to guys
who have to go directly to Hitech when things go sour on 'em.
Don't blame the Knights or the Rooks for the mess depicted on that map graphic. Blame the legions of pilots just
flyin' around pointing their noses at stuff rather than trying to orchestrate some semblance of offensive operations.
I flew around that port for four hours. 95 percent of the Bishop pilots were otd playing bomb the GVs or
just hiding around the CV parked offshore inside its puffy ack defensive belt.
Not a single offensive operation was launched in the hours I was there this morning and afternoon.
Enjoy furballing; that's what it gets you.
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so you lose a few maps. . .nothing to be upset about.
Personally, I kinda like th losing side, which is why I fly knights a lot. . . :bolt:
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Wrong thread...
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It turn out to be a bug that crept in with the last release. We will be installing the fix on the server today around 4:00
HiTech
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It turn out to be a bug that crept in with the last release. We will be installing the fix on the server today around 4:00
HiTech
Your time or mine? :D
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My time, when the switch over normally happens
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See Rules #4, #6
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Aw quit bein' a rumpswab, Dantoo. The reason the map is a mess like that is a -total- lack of offensive operations by
the Bishops. Period. End of story.
Umm... seriously, you think the fact that 160 rooks and nits declared an alliance and have been attacking half that number of bish with absolutely no combat at all along the whole rook-nit front, has NOTHING to do with it?
Waiter? I'd like some of what that guy's been smoking.
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This used to happen all the time, it was usualy when the best furballs you could find appeared too. Nobody ever complained.
[shrugs]
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This used to happen all the time, it was usualy when the best furballs you could find appeared too. Nobody ever complained.
[shrugs]
Not everyone likes furballs.
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Thought the recent arena changes made base captures almost impossible? :rofl
ack-ack
Nothing is impossible when you use a horde! :aok
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LOL.
I remember a few months ago when I noticed in LWO there were 200+ rooks and bish combined to something along the lines of 55 or so knits, and knits were getting it from both sides while there wasn't a single fight between the rooks and the bish anywhere.
None of the rooks or bish had a problem with it, and we knits were just happy to have plenty of fights. :banana:
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Umm... seriously, you think the fact that 160 rooks and nits declared an alliance and have been attacking half that number of bish with absolutely no combat at all along the whole rook-nit front, has NOTHING to do with it?
Waiter? I'd like some of what that guy's been smoking.
Just out of a mild sense of curiousity, where have you been since 2008?
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See Rule #4
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None of the rooks or bish had a problem with it, and we knits were just happy to have plenty of fights. :banana:
Exactly. Player complains about alleged "alliances" come only when it's against them... on all other cases they do not care or even take note.
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Thought the recent arena changes made base captures almost impossible? :rofl
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:devil Nah. It's just that now it takes 2 of the 3 sides to capture any field! :devil
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And that's Hitech's problem...how? It's human nature to take the easy way...in life and especially in a game. HTC has created the game - it's up to the players to decide how that game is played. If they decide to be turds and dweebs, what is HTC supposed to do about it?
I agree it is the people. All HT can do is design with that in mind or just log in and reset the map.
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They removed non capturable bases and the bish are hangin on? I say great defense! Kinda gives you something to fight for now.
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Ah man. That would have been fun to fly in and push back.
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Just out of a mild sense of curiousity, where have you been since 2008?
Mostly eyes glued to the screen playing AH. :)
As I said to Lusche in another thread, I don't think the bish get this any worse over the long term; each country gets it now and then. The problem is that there's no great fun being on the other end of it to counterbalance the un-fun of being the gangee. I'd much rather it not happen at all, to any of the countries, although it only affects me personally when it's the bish.
This particular instance has been going on for loner than usual, though - it's been much of the last four nights in Off Peak.
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Ah man. That would have been fun to fly in and push back.
You really think they would let you take off? :old:
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Its never a matter of someone letting me do anything.
I take.
I'll let them vultch me until they're out of ammo and then cap the field and push it out.
Face shooting vultchers is fun too.
I do it all the time. My k/d sucks for a reason.
It'd also be fun to see who's flying against the bish down there. Maybe some certain 38s...f4u's... :lol
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They said they were going to close the arena's do a reset for a patch update in 15mins that was 20mins or so ago, i signed in no patch and servers are still up :headscratch:
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You really think they would let you take off? :old:
You don't have to be a BIsh to help then in that situation. With bases being so close, you can take off in Knightland and attack the Rooks ib to Bishland and vice versa. A few players can cause great disruption that way :)
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all that happened was that uncapturable bases are back
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You don't have to be a BIsh to help then in that situation. With bases being so close, you can take off in Knightland and attack the Rooks ib to Bishland and vice versa. A few players can cause great disruption that way :)
That's fun too. Especially in a jet. :aok
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all that happened was that uncapturable bases are back
I feel it's a bit unfortunate that it had to come to this first, before they were put back into the game.
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all that happened was that uncapturable bases are back
So the Bish get a mulligan?
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Not everyone likes furballs.
then switch countries to nits or rooks and enjoy being the horde.
I play every aspect of the game from vehicals to ship gunners when the situation demands it. I fly every style I can possibly learn to ensure I can enjoy as many situations as possible. That is probably why I dont see your point and why I think people who don't like furballs simply cannot survive in them and wont drop their ego far enough to learn through violent repeated death. Not liking furballs is your own choice, so why ask the developers to fix a game that you are not using to full potential?
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I’m sure that those that were breathing threatening and murder at HTC were those that routinely say, “If you don’t want your base to be shut down or taken, get off your butt and defend it” when some of us make our one small request that we have made over and over for years that TT bases be made uncapturable.
I love those little bugs that mete out doses of small justice.
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I feel it's a bit unfortunate that it had to come to this first, before they were put back into the game.
HT said it was a bug that came in on the last update. The removal of uncapturable bases was not planned.
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I imagine if the bish were limited to 2-3 fields like that, they'd be so concentrated, that vultching one of those fields would be pretty tough. I'm sure people could find their way into the air. It's probably less intense than a horded field on a more even map where there's less defenders.
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when it is 2 countrys against 1..kind of hard to defend really well..and u all know that...scoth with over 100 people hammering away at 3 fields,bombers incoming vulching,its no wonder people were ticked off.
Need 2 LWA's back..this way,when one side is getting ganged,they can leave and go into the other LWA,and get some breathing room,and have it calmed down..its been working great having 2 lwa 24/7 except TT and now this mess for 2 weeks..
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wow.. back on OCTOBER 20th, nobody seemed to have a problem with this:
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5959/ahss101.jpg) (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/ahss101.jpg/)
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when it is 2 countrys against 1..kind of hard to defend really well..and u all know that...
Need 2 LWA's back..this way,when one side is getting ganged,they can leave and go into the other LWA and be a part of the horde...
Fixed :D
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:aok :lol
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There was another LWA to go too kuvo...It wasnt just ONE arena LW..and nits and rooks would take advantage of that as well when hording started such as has happened recently.
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Fixed :D
looks to me like the HORDE is already going on sunbat..
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wow.. back on OCTOBER 20th, nobody seemed to have a problem with this:
The new arena setup apparently messes things up so badly, that it even affects battles back in time :old:
Sorry, couldn't resist. j/k of course :lol :bolt:
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Ya there doesn't seem to be any issues taking the bases :rofl
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when 2 sides against 1..you are correct,its the path of least resistance,hence the 2v1.and yes everyone does it,but now there is no other LW arena to go too when one gets tired of the ganging,...
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then switch countries to nits or rooks and enjoy being the horde.
I play every aspect of the game from vehicals to ship gunners when the situation demands it. I fly every style I can possibly learn to ensure I can enjoy as many situations as possible. That is probably why I dont see your point and why I think people who don't like furballs simply cannot survive in them and wont drop their ego far enough to learn through violent repeated death. Not liking furballs is your own choice, so why ask the developers to fix a game that you are not using to full potential?
Well I don't want to switch countries and push that third country in the hole even farther. Now I never asked the developers to change anything, all I said was that not everyone likes furballs. Where did I say that 1) I don't enjoy furballs or 2) I'm not good in them? You're making assumptions about me with no base. I enjoy an occasional furball, an occasional porking or what have you. I really enjoy flying bombers though, and even when your country is pushed back to the uncapturable bases, there is a base that you can slip out and get some altitude. The situation the Bish were in didn't really allow for that option. Having those uncapturables back should help the situation. I will fight and even enjoy myself when my country is pushed back, but I see a difference to being pushed back like in kvuo75's picture, and having 3-4 bases, all under attack.
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Having those uncapturables back should help the situation. I will fight and even enjoy myself when my country is pushed back, but I see a difference to being pushed back like in kvuo75's picture, and having 3-4 bases, all under attack.
yea, unfortunately I don't have a screen shot from later that night or the next day, when we WERE down to 3 bases..
hey i'm glad the uncapturables are back also, just dont understand why people just now noticed, it's been like this for over a month..
notice this thread from october 12:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,298359.0.html
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Well I don't want to switch countries and push that third country in the hole even farther. Now I never asked the developers to change anything, all I said was that not everyone likes furballs. Where did I say that 1) I don't enjoy furballs or 2) I'm not good in them? You're making assumptions about me with no base. I enjoy an occasional furball, an occasional porking or what have you. I really enjoy flying bombers though, and even when your country is pushed back to the uncapturable bases, there is a base that you can slip out and get some altitude. The situation the Bish were in didn't really allow for that option. Having those uncapturables back should help the situation. I will fight and even enjoy myself when my country is pushed back, but I see a difference to being pushed back like in kvuo75's picture, and having 3-4 bases, all under attack.
You are right Jay. My comments should not have been directed at your personaly but at the group who are complaining and bad mouthing the company in the game instead of adapting themselves. I die all the time in furballs, I just enjoy them still. My appologies, I was just giving my own realistic and harsh opinion. Quoting you was not intended to direct the entire brunt of my message at you personaly.
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We learned two things from this...
1. Rooks and Knights either don't care about winning the war, or haven't got a clue HOW to win the war.....I'm leaning towards the second one :devil
2. Had the bish been not so "country loyal" a bunch could have swapped countries to start a battle on the Knight and rook front
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Well I don't want to switch countries and push that third country in the hole even farther.
Sorry, but I have to comment: Who said you have to push the third country even farther? Au contraire: Being a well organized squad, you could actually move things in a different direction.
Switch to Knights and then do a nice organized bomb raid on rookland. Maybe just flatten a town or two to stir it up. You would make a nice darbar, and if they notice you are not doing a strat run but are threatening their bases, you will see defenders upping. If not, they will lose a field, which sends a nice message too.
A single player doesn't have this option. Four or more players like you guys who are knowing what to do, have.
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We learned two things from this...
1. Rooks and Knights either don't care about winning the war, or haven't got a clue HOW to win the war.....I'm leaning towards the second one :devil
2. Had the bish been not so "country loyal" a bunch could have swapped countries to start a battle on the Knight and rook front
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The new arena setup apparently messes things up so badly, that it even affects battles back in time :old:
Sorry, couldn't resist. j/k of course :lol :bolt:
Ooooooooh, Retroactive douchbaggery?
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You are right Jay. My comments should not have been directed at your personaly but at the group who are complaining and bad mouthing the company in the game instead of adapting themselves. I die all the time in furballs, I just enjoy them still. My appologies, I was just giving my own realistic and harsh opinion. Quoting you was not intended to direct the entire brunt of my message at you personaly.
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:rofl oooo the drama. Kill the troops and they can't take bases. ENY, caps, prime time, off peak time. Kill the troops and they can't take bases. Dantoo, Loki how many troops did YOU kill?
Just dust yourselves off and get back in there. Next week you're be hoarding rooks and nits. That map has always sucked and everyone knows it. Personally i'd be happy to see the POS reset.
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Sorry, but I have to comment: Who said you have to push the third country even farther? Au contraire: Being a well organized squad, you could actually move things in a different direction.
Switch to Knights and then do a nice organized bomb raid on rookland. Maybe just flatten a town or two to stir it up. You would make a nice darbar, and if they notice you are not doing a strat run but are threatening their bases, you will see defenders upping. If not, they will lose a field, which sends a nice message too.
A single player doesn't have this option. Four or more players like you guys who are knowing what to do, have.
My post was a response to saying I could switch countries "and join the horde". That was what I was referring too.
In this particular case, I was the only 91st Member on. I do see your point in different situations though, but it is 91st policy not to switch sides. That is not my choice but I respect it, talk to the boss about that one.
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not a new situation rooks and nits never fight each other
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I’m sure that those that were breathing threatening and murder at HTC were those that routinely say, “If you don’t want your base to be shut down or taken, get off your butt and defend it”
Nope. I am a regular proponent of the thought that if you don't want your base to be shut down or taken then defend it as it's a true of an axiom as you'll ever get in this game. However, you won't find me in any posts that are in agreement with the latest whines from the Bishops that got the shaft on Uterus.
ack-ack
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Dantoo, Loki how many troops did YOU kill?
Sorry I must have missed something? Please point out where in my post it says:
I was complaining about the map? The "gang"? The "hordes"? Any aspect of gameplay?
Me, I was enjoying myself playing except for one single aspect, what I was seeing and hearing. That was the only experience that was new. Nothing in the gameplay was in any way unfamiliar to me or made me uncomfortable a moment. I like the new arena arrangement. Over the years like everybody else, I've been ganged, vulched, pushed to the tower unable to fly because of hangars, eny etc.. Doesn't matter a fig to me. It must be a misunderstanding and because it is now a long thread that you and at least one other seem to have forgotten what I wrote. Here it is for you again:
I've been playing here for a decade.
This is the first and only occasion where I have endured an atmosphere of genuine "hatred" for yourself and game. It is unsettling. I want no part of it.
Do yourself a favour - log in - go Bishop and just observe. It's not nice. You might want to reset the map or something because you simply need to show some sort of positive reaction.
respect and best regards.
For those that missed what happened after that. HiTech logged in fairly quickly. He spotted a technical problem and made some changes in respect of that. That and his actual presence in the arena settled down the more worrisome outbursts. There was quite a few people that were putting strong but civil views to HT about what seemed to be a number of issues. I assume he was listening. World was suddenly less evil. I went to bed.
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sometimes, HiTech just needs to draw the line and restart the arena....They are trying to even out gameplay??? Doesn't look like it! Its happened in the past, 2 o bigtoeries gang up on one..........GET OVER IT!!!!! BUT, when the 2 countries eliminate the one country to only 3 bases, THEN you must restart the map.
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I feel it's a bit unfortunate that it had to come to this first, before they were put back into the game.
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At least this time they kept their strat. Couple weeks ago they were down to three bases and did not have their strat due to the capturable bases by their HQs. :salute
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World was suddenly less evil. I went to bed.
I trust while you were there at Hitech's side, no doubt identifying the various offensive individuals via PM he at least
gave you a pat or two on the head before sending you to bed where you could be in your "happy place".
I'm glad the world is now a better place for you. :D
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otoenailries
It's countries
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Odd I'm sure you meant that as humour and I'm missing it because I'm tired. I didn't speak directly to HT for more than a line that said "thanks for coming and goodnight".
I hope the people that were having the problems took the opportunity to speak to him. I know personally a couple of them have been here since the beta. Never saw such things before. I don't know, but would imagine, that most of the people that were displaying signs of stress and anger might only take that single opportunity to communicate to HTC. The chances of them putting their grievances on the BBS would be very low. Most people don't use it.
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not a new situation rooks and nits never fight each other
requoted just for the stupid factor! :x
<----- was upping off a knit CV for over an hour today, attacking a rook field....... at the far north end of that pond....... :joystick:
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not a new situation rooks and nits never fight each other
What a load, even from an emotional and not very logical standpoint.
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sometimes, HiTech just needs to draw the line and restart the arena....They are trying to even out gameplay??? Doesn't look like it! Its happened in the past, 2 otoenailries gang up on one..........GET OVER IT!!!!! BUT, when the 2 countries eliminate the one country to only 3 bases, THEN you must restart the map.
What would be the difference if the only three bases left were the three uncapturable bases?
Like someone already said, I guess it's not about taking bases and winining war.
wrongway
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I can't believe I read through those last 6 pages. Not sure what's more retarded, me or this thread.
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What would be the difference if the only three bases left were the three uncapturable bases?
Like someone already said, I guess it's not about taking bases and winining war.
wrongway
There is less of a drive to attack uncapturable bases... because they can't be captured. When all bases can be captured, there is little incentive to stop attacking on that front and move to another.
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My bad Dantoo. I was confusing one of Loki's posts with you. I've been reading math and computer books all day and my damn brain is in knots right now. And now the friggin car won't start. :furious Guess I'll have to read a auto repair manual now too. :cry :salute
Hopefully my comprehension skills wasn't this bad when I took those tests this morning. :uhoh
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There is less of a drive to attack uncapturable bases... because they can't be captured. When all bases can be captured, there is little incentive to stop attacking on that front and move to another.
From your point of view maybe. From mine and many other people's point of view, we don't even know if a field is capturable or not nor care one bit when attacking said field. The field is like a food vending machine. We don't want to capture the whole vending machine like some obese pirate, we only intend to feed and move along quietly leaving the vending machine to serve others like us.
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From your point of view maybe. From mine and many other people's point of view, we don't even know if a field is capturable or not nor care one bit when attacking said field. The field is like a food vending machine. We don't want to capture the whole vending machine like some obese pirate, we only intend to feed and move along quietly leaving the vending machine to serve others like us.
Ooooo, man I like that explanation...that is right on Batfink...
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Switch to Knights and then do a nice organized bomb raid on rookland. Maybe just flatten a town or two to stir it up. You would make a nice darbar, and if they notice you are not doing a strat run but are threatening their bases, you will see defenders upping. If not, they will lose a field, which sends a nice message too.
Well, I am to blame for our Bishop-only policy. I mainly decided on that because of all the friends I've made here during my six years of AH. In a way I suppose not switching sides is rather selfish, but at the same time, we've still earned a good reputation in this game from all sides, and the high alt fights that result are perhaps the most fun I've had since I've started playing. As it stands, I don't intend to change that policy.
I do realize the logic of your statement, Lusche. You get no argument from me. :)
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Nope. I am a regular proponent of the thought that if you don't want your base to be shut down or taken then defend it as it's a true of an axiom as you'll ever get in this game. However, you won't find me in any posts that are in agreement with the latest whines from the Bishops that got the shaft on Uterus.
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Blah. You know what I mean. I don't want the fight shut down.
Now if I were busy effectively defending the base from the most direct threat to it being shut down I would need to climb several thousand feet ABOVE the fight where the three or four sets of bombers will be that will most likely shut down the base. I will also need to take time out of the fight as I climb through the fight to organize at least three others to have a chance at destroying the bombers in time before they use their easy mode bomb site to nook the hangars. Those three will need to be highly proficient bomber attackers in very fast, lethal planes b/c most likely the dar will be down thanks to one suicide Dora that I would have to try to kill as I'm climbing to 20k (through the fight) and while I am at the same time organizing those three other excellent bomber killers. You see my point of course b/c you are a bright person - if I were to do all of that, I wouldn't be in the fight, I'd be working and HTC has said in the past that this game is a game it is not work nor is it war so people should not be expected to behave as if it were work or war. That point however is secondary, the primary point is if I am having to work to preserve the fight then I am no longer fighting so the fight is effectively dead to me so why should I screw with preserving it?
Therefore, I just enjoy the fight while it lasts and until some griefer comes along and shuts it down. And when that happens I usually just move on and not work to protect another fight until some other person with a very boring appetite for fun ups a bomber and spends 30 minutes to get above the fight so he can shut it all down.
In conclusion, I'd like to see every base capturable. That way other pals fun can be taken away unless the WORK for it.
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I got so far through reading and i'm sure i read a "vTard" (not my term, i saw it on 200 :angel:) a number of pages back, complain about getting ganged/horded by the knights and the rooks...
:headscratch:
Don't like taste of what you vHorders have been dishing out yourselves in LWO recently eh?! :devil
What goes around comes around :P
And I personally, am enjoying reading about it. It's a beautiful sight that the Rooks and Knight joined as brothers in arms for a map, after all an enemy of my enemy is my friend. :neener
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Thought the recent arena changes made base captures almost impossible? :rofl
ack-ack
Your kidding right Ack-Ack. I was playing during this yesterday. Not much the Bish can do when 100 rooks and 100 Knits are all ganging 100 Bish from two sides.. I was defending each on of those bases until each one was ganged by 100 enemy at the same time.. Not going to defend that. Personally, I do not have a problem with it as long as a couple of un-takeable bases are left. Eventually the rooks and knits will be forced to fight each other for the map. That would give the bish some time to take a few back.. I wouldnt include this in the current base taking controversy.
It did make for some great fighting I might add.. :salute
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I got so far through reading and i'm sure i read a "vTard" (not my term, i saw it on 200 :angel:) a number of pages back, complain about getting ganged/horded by the knights and the rooks...
:headscratch:
Don't like taste of what you vHorders have been dishing out yourselves in LWO recently eh?! :devil
What goes around comes around :P
And I personally, am enjoying reading about it. It's a beautiful sight that the Rooks and Knight joined as brothers in arms for a map, after all an enemy of my enemy is my friend. :neener
I do not recall anyone complaining about the hord. I think the were complaining about the lack of un capturable bases.. People like you pull out that Vhorder comment. I cannot recall the last time I have seen more than 8-10 Devils Brigade on at once. Not really a hord. And I play almost everyday.. You can post without the insults Sir...
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Your kidding right Ack-Ack. I was playing during this yesterday. Not much the Bish can do when 100 rooks and 100 Knits are all ganging 100 Bish from two sides.. I was defending each on of those bases until each one was ganged by 100 enemy at the same time.. Not going to defend that. Personally, I do not have a problem with it as long as a couple of un-takeable bases are left. Eventually the rooks and knits will be forced to fight each other for the map. That would give the bish some time to take a few back.. I wouldnt include this in the current base taking controversy.
It did make for some great fighting I might add.. :salute
From the screenshot of the Uterus map, it seemed like the Knights and the Rookies had no troubles capturing bases. Kind of sinks the argument that bases are too hard to capture. Keep back peddling though, it amuses me.
ack-ack
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Ack-Ack. If Jesus came back he would be named Kelly Johnson. :)
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From the screenshot of the Uterus map, it seemed like the Knights and the Rookies had no troubles capturing bases. Kind of sinks the argument that bases are too hard to capture. Keep back peddling though, it amuses me.
ack-ack
Yup, a horde can take just about anything. It's easy! :aok
This sure is better than having 8 or 12 guys doing an NOE isn't it.
Sinks the argument! :rofl :rofl :rofl
Seems to me somebody has unwittingly created a monster.
THAT amuses ME! :neener:
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I would almost feel sorry for Dantoo and the rest of the Bishops if I didn't see the same thing happen to Rooks more often than not. I would be willing to wager a mighty sum that any Knight player who has played the game for a decade or so, and played only for Team Knight, would say he/she sees the same thing as well.
If the game is getting to you, your frustration level is high, or you hate being the Hordee instead of the Horder, take a break. Go to another arena, or just log off for the day. Time away pursuing one of your other hobbies can do wonders for your outlook.
from: The Teachings of TeeArr, Ace Extraordinaire. vol. XXiii
(Deluxe special edition)
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From the screenshot of the Uterus map, it seemed like the Knights and the Rookies had no troubles capturing bases. Kind of sinks the argument that bases are too hard to capture. Keep back peddling though, it amuses me.
ack-ack
You never read any argument from me about bases being hard to capture.. I think the current system is fine... No complaints...
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From your point of view maybe. From mine and many other people's point of view, we don't even know if a field is capturable or not nor care one bit when attacking said field. The field is like a food vending machine. We don't want to capture the whole vending machine like some obese pirate, we only intend to feed and move along quietly leaving the vending machine to serve others like us.
I'll respectfully disagree again. Maybe over the last few months we don't know which are uncapturable bases, but before that (and now), it was the bases with a red square around them. I can understand there are people who don't take part in wanting to win the war, but there are plenty of people on your side that do, that's why your line has moved forward to the uncapturable. So maybe you and a few others might stay and fight, a large number will be aware of the uncapturable base and realize it's of little strategic value.
:salute
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not a new situation rooks and nits never fight each other
Well the 20+ Rooks I was flying with I'm sure join with me to apologize to the 30-40 Knights that were attacking us wave after wave. I'm sure we will no longer defend as long as they continue to not attack. We were both in the wrong and are truly sorry. :rolleyes:
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I do not recall anyone complaining about the hord. I think the were complaining about the lack of un capturable bases.. People like you pull out that Vhorder comment. I cannot recall the last time I have seen more than 8-10 Devils Brigade on at once. Not really a hord. And I play almost everyday.. You can post without the insults Sir...
I'll take screendump and prove my post, that is unless there habit changed from the weeks before the change over or this thread being posted. Also i was using anothers term from channel 200, I'm not going out to be insulting, but i am showing the resentment and lack of sympathy being created by the gameplay they are bringing to the game. <S> Sky
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I'll respectfully disagree again. Maybe over the last few months we don't know which are uncapturable bases, but before that (and now), it was the bases with a red square around them. I can understand there are people who don't take part in wanting to win the war, but there are plenty of people on your side that do, that's why your line has moved forward to the uncapturable. So maybe you and a few others might stay and fight, a large number will be aware of the uncapturable base and realize it's of little strategic value.
:salute
All fair comments but I think you're still reading what i said from the wrong angle. I do infact find it fun to win teh war with my team mates sometimes if there is really no pure dogfighting to be done. I do enjoy a tank battle, I do enjoy trying to get up off a vulched field. I love single enemy combats, I love the high alt strategical multi-plane engagements. I enjoy twisting and turning below a gangbang and I always try to salute when an enemy shoots me before i kill his team mate. I love the once common but now gold dust furballs away from base acks that rolled on for hours at low altitude. There really isnt anything in the game that can piss me off anymore, I just appreciate that the game is there whenever I want it, being negative about any aspect of it seems self defeating to me.
My angle to you is that if you dont like furballing then you simply dont enjoy all aspects the game has to offer, which is absolutely fine by me, just a clear observation. So when one who doesnt like furballing logs in and finds no option but furballing they find themself with very little to do. :D
S! and with respect
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Your kidding right Ack-Ack. I was playing during this yesterday. Not much the Bish can do when 100 rooks and 100 Knits are all ganging 100 Bish from two sides.. I was defending each on of those bases until each one was ganged by 100 enemy at the same time.. Not going to defend that. Personally, I do not have a problem with it as long as a couple of un-takeable bases are left. Eventually the rooks and knits will be forced to fight each other for the map. That would give the bish some time to take a few back.. I wouldnt include this in the current base taking controversy.
It did make for some great fighting I might add.. :salute
I really doubt there were 100 bish. ;)
So, as has been explained to me, uncapturable = no incentive to gang the last three bases of the underdog, correct?
It's not a "2 countries ganging up on one" problem, it's a "they can still capture our bases" problem?
Which brings up my next question. What if all the Bish bases had been captured?
My main problem with the situation is, no Me163s. :devil
wrongway
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I was always AZ in AW and have always been Bish in AH. AZ/Bish used to always get horded two countries on one. Back in AW we always took great pride in it saying they were just making us better. Not sure that was actually true but that's what we liked to believe. Anyway, wish I'd have been there. Looks like it would have been fun.
PS: Sunbat, any time you're Bish just enjoy the furball because I'm often one of those guys on high patrol for the griefer buffs.
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My angle to you is that if you dont like furballing then you simply dont enjoy all aspects the game has to offer, which is absolutely fine by me, just a clear observation. So when one who doesnt like furballing logs in and finds no option but furballing they find themself with very little to do. :D
I really can't argue with that. It doesn't happen very often where furballing is your only option, and that's a little exacerbated with the Off Peak Arena not allowing people another late war arena (time will tell if this means they simply log or explore other arenas). We'll see what happens but this is likely just a rare occurrence that causes mass panic about the game, ripe with threats to unsubscribe because of the ruined game play. :lol
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he beat me to posting the photo. Look at that untouched Rook - Nit battlefront.
Deny that -_-
We log on tonight and first thing that happens in the nits start hitting our red box base >:/
Getting tired of it.
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I would almost feel sorry for Dantoo
Why sorry for me? Please take the time to read my posts if you are going to frame a response around what you think I might have said, or meant. I reiterate - I was enjoying gameplay. The social atmosphere was unhealthy at best and I chose to alert HT to it.
I chose this method of alerting HTC because it is simplest best method available to me. The response was remarkably fast and effective. They demonstrated that they care about their product. I don't/can't speak for their view or any other but mine.
I don't support or deny or identify with any other posts in this thread except my own.
rgds.
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Ive been having the AH addiction for about 5 years now. Although our squad usually flies Rook, we have no problem switching if we find fun elsewhere.
I cannot count how many times Ive seen whines of " Team XXX never fights Team YYY". All of which I can promise you came from these possesed map watchers that insist they are loosing just because they have no or little real estate on the map. In short, if one star becomes slightly out of alignment, the universe comes crashing down on them.
You guys that are new or somewhat new to this game, I say this because folks that have been at this for years and years have been here enough to know better that these situations allthough sucky, always go full circle. I can bet a year paid subscription to AH to point out that all these guys pointing to conspiracy would have absolutely no problems with the fact if was THEM doing the ganging.
Just looking at that map, even though you had limited resources I see tons of potential to have fun. (A18 is not even touched is the first thing that comes to mind). If real estate is on your mind heres some good advice:
Pork: You would be amazed how killing ords at a base reduces the rush. Furthermore killing barracks. It is much easier and takes less guys to disable their resources than it is for them to ressuply and get them back. Doing so buys you plenty of time to mount an offensive.
Stir it up elsewhere: Again A18 would be a good resource to open up another front of attack deeper in the other guys territory. Spread the enemy out. Though it does take a team effort, it can be very effective.
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On Uterus the Southern position always gets hammered. Every map has it's weaker positions, it isn't anything to do with Chess piece or numbers.
Hopefully when the shoe is on the other foot Bish can show some self restraint and the unfortunate Nit or Rook team can man up and defend their borders without running to HT for help.
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I fought for bish sunday and yesterday.The Rook/Nit lameness was quite outstanding, many were saying they wanted to wipe the bish off the map, we were down to 2 bases at one time, P4 and a18, then whining because HT gave us back bases that were supposed to be uncapturable in the first place.
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On Uterus the Southern position always gets hammered. Every map has it's weaker positions, it isn't anything to do with Chess piece or numbers.
Hopefully when the shoe is on the other foot Bish can show some self restraint and the unfortunate Nit or Rook team can man up and defend their borders without running to HT for help.
Ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing . :lol
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On Uterus the Southern position always gets hammered. Every map has it's weaker positions, it isn't anything to do with Chess piece or numbers.
Hopefully when the shoe is on the other foot Bish can show some self restraint and the unfortunate Nit or Rook team can man up and defend their borders without running to HT for help.
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+1
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On Uterus the Southern position always gets hammered. Every map has it's weaker positions, it isn't anything to do with Chess piece or numbers.
Hopefully when the shoe is on the other foot Bish can show some self restraint and the unfortunate Nit or Rook team can man up and defend their borders without running to HT for help.
No the bish will fight (as always) both sides and hopefully win z war, not just be score ho's.
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just don't be blaming the new arena setup for age old AH problems.
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Trying to imagine myself as a new guy getting introduced to the game when it is at this point. I wouldn't feel right in helping other fronts keep the third pinned down, and I wouldn't have much influence when going on a long flight to fight against the other front & constantly get shot down. It would get old real quick.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/16h9ahi.jpg)
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I really doubt there were 100 bish. ;)
wrongway
Your correct. There were about 98 Bish 100 Knit and 100 Rooks. With that map about 50 Bish fighting 100 from each side.. Made or a great fight, but clearly a losing fight..
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Do we get to look forward to posts like this every time any country gets close to getting reset ?
Wouldn't it be better to just not let your bases get taken rather then to ask HT to reset the game because you did.
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Do we get to look forward to posts like this every time any country gets close to getting reset ?
Wouldn't it be better to just not let your bases get taken rather then to ask HT to reset the game because you did.
You miss the point completely. It's not about an imminent reset.
It's about returning to the days of the Warbird's "leave one field open and vulch for days on end". And since HTC addressed the issue with a fix for the unintended lack of non-capturable fields, it's a non-issue at this point.
<S>
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See Rule #4
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Do we get to look forward to posts like this every time any country gets close to getting reset ?
Wouldn't it be better to just not let your bases get taken rather then to ask HT to reset the game because you did.
Dude your clueless
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We learned two things from
2. Had the bish been not so "country loyal" a bunch could have swapped countries to start a battle on the Knight and rook front
I agree with that statement Fugitive...
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Put the sheep back in the game and the Rooks attention will be diverted from the war effort, leaving just the Nits for the Bish to fight.
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That would do it!
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Flifast
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Put the sheep back in the game and the Rooks attention will be diverted from the war effort, leaving just the Nits for the Bish to fight.
You have GOT to get out of the van once in a while...
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Do we get to look forward to posts like this every time any country gets close to getting reset ?
Wouldn't it be better to just not let your bases get taken rather then to ask HT to reset the game because you did.
Perhaps you should refresh your memory concerning the requirements for a game reset. They were NOT attempting to reset the game. I was there at the Port in a GV as we had wave after wave of GV's comming and I did not vitch about it in the game nor in here. I just had to speak up when I saw that you jumped in without knowing anything about the situation.
Eat mo turtles...
Jay
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You must be crazy to try to get HT in the game...... His plane has dual vulcan canons and turns on a dime. :airplane:
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I was wondering what happens if a county loses all it's bases. Does it rest the map or is one country just off the map for a time?
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I was wondering what happens if a county loses all it's bases. Does it rest the map or is one country just off the map for a time?
I'd think one side would just not be able to launch anywhere. However, now that uncapturable bases are back, we'll never know for sure.
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Live by the horde die by the horde.
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/sje19781978/oherlihy-last-starfighter-sm.jpg)
"I've always wanted to fight an impossible battle against incredible odds."
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Live by the horde die by the horde.
(http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo109/sje19781978/oherlihy-last-starfighter-sm.jpg)
"I've always wanted to fight an impossible battle against incredible odds."
Ha I always liked that movie. My wife bought the blueray movie.
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Blue Arena is a sewer and will most likely never change.
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It is really a shame that HiTech didn't just leave the game alone in this instance. Looking at the Blue Map today one can only draw two conclusions: A) HiTech helped the Bishops to overcome a hole they placed themselves in, or B) Yesterday's Bishops needed to each grow a pair.
Just my Observation.
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It is really a shame that HiTech didn't just leave the game alone in this instance. Looking at the Blue Map today one can only draw two conclusions: A) HiTech helped the Bishops to overcome a hole they placed themselves in, or B) Yesterday's Bishops needed to each grow a pair.
Just my Observation.
There was a bug.
He simply fixed it.
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Blue Arena is a sewer and will most likely never change.
But you and your timid unskilled lot don't fly there so it makes Blue pretty damn good in my book. Enjoy.
ack-ack
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Here is something that most of the people complaining fail to realize, the unwanted attention that they seem to get from both sides at once has some merit.
Keep in mind most on rooks and knits do not care about base capture unlike bish its seems more of their sole purpose, its more about a fight for the other two.
When bish continuously at nausium conduct nothing but horde noe after noe your going to draw attention that you dont want, its just that simple.
If your side wants to fly in a horde is one thing, but to do it NOE as well, your going to make alot of waves and the repercussions will be severe enough where all anyone wants to do is shove your face in the ground.
I have seen several times if flying rook fighting knit or vice verse that when a fight start to develop between the two Bish start hording NOE undefended bases against rooks and knits while they are busy with each other, the result of that is they start to defend against it.
I think what you seen was the result of players on both sides finding that the whack o mole game was getting old and they brought it to you full force.
Your going to find out the hard way that when you continuously horde that it will not be bigger as the combined horde of two sides, you want to continue down that road your probably going to get more of what you saw. Oh well, pissing off the other player is what all about isnt it?
Remember, when this map first came into play I was a bish defending 13, knits started upping for the base and only 3 of us bish defended it, the dar continued to grow and eventually due to the lack of defense knits took it. What was the other bish doing the could have been defending? Posting a 30 Man MiSsHuN to capture another base somewhere else NOE.... :headscratch: So, I joined the knits to bash the noe missions that ensued. Was very rewarding.
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I see no difference in how each side handles themselves..... there are good and bad on all teams. This terrain was simply beset by a bug which HiTech fixed with Skuzzy Spray.
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Here is something that most of the people complaining fail to realize, the unwanted attention that they seem to get from both sides at once has some merit.
Keep in mind most on rooks and knits do not care about base capture unlike bish its seems more of their sole purpose, its more about a fight for the other two.
When bish continuously at nausium conduct nothing but horde noe after noe your going to draw attention that you dont want, its just that simple.
If your side wants to fly in a horde is one thing, but to do it NOE as well, your going to make alot of waves and the repercussions will be severe enough where all anyone wants to do is shove your face in the ground.
I have seen several times if flying rook fighting knit or vice verse that when a fight start to develop between the two Bish start hording NOE undefended bases against rooks and knits while they are busy with each other, the result of that is they start to defend against it.
I think what you seen was the result of players on both sides finding that the whack o mole game was getting old and they brought it to you full force.
Your going to find out the hard way that when you continuously horde that it will not be bigger as the combined horde of two sides, you want to continue down that road your probably going to get more of what you saw. Oh well, pissing off the other player is what all about isnt it?
As I bounce around from side to side I see no difference in how anyone on any side plays (or behaves). All that changes is the names.
Edit-> What Shuffler said! :D
<S>
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I see no difference in how each side handles themselves..... there are good and bad on all teams. This terrain was simply beset by a bug which HiTech fixed with Skuzzy Spray.
(http://www.clipartguide.com/_small/1552-0910-0915-3540.jpg)
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So why is there a three sided war again?
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So why is there a three sided war again?
When 1 gets out of line, the other two can beat them like a red headed step child ;) .....
:rofl
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Here is something that most of the people complaining fail to realize, the unwanted attention that they seem to get from both sides at once has some merit.
Keep in mind most on rooks and knits do not care about base capture unlike bish its seems more of their sole purpose, its more about a fight for the other two.
When bish continuously at nausium conduct nothing but horde noe after noe your going to draw attention that you dont want, its just that simple.
If your side wants to fly in a horde is one thing, but to do it NOE as well, your going to make alot of waves and the repercussions will be severe enough where all anyone wants to do is shove your face in the ground.
I have seen several times if flying rook fighting knit or vice verse that when a fight start to develop between the two Bish start hording NOE undefended bases against rooks and knits while they are busy with each other, the result of that is they start to defend against it.
I think what you seen was the result of players on both sides finding that the whack o mole game was getting old and they brought it to you full force.
Your going to find out the hard way that when you continuously horde that it will not be bigger as the combined horde of two sides, you want to continue down that road your probably going to get more of what you saw. Oh well, pissing off the other player is what all about isnt it?
Seriously?!? I don't change around much but each side is pretty much the same with their ways....just depends what time you fly I suppose..
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Seriously?!? I don't change around much but each side is pretty much the same with their ways....just depends what time you fly I suppose..
Didn't say that only a side does it, just pointing out that 1 side its more prevalent.
I usually will switch to another side not noeing time after time just to bust them up. Get out and about, you will quickly see who does it more often and with larger amounts.
Not sure if its because its the Default Bish thing when you join or what.
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On Uterus the Southern position always gets hammered. Every map has it's weaker positions, it isn't anything to do with Chess piece or numbers.
Hopefully when the shoe is on the other foot Bish can show some self restraint and the unfortunate Nit or Rook team can man up and defend their borders without running to HT for help.
Quite a position from a Brit
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When 1 gets out of line, the other two can beat them like a red headed step child ;) .....
:rofl
Have you stopped abusing your children yet?
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Didn't say that only a side does it, just pointing out that 1 side its more prevalent.
I usually will switch to another side not noeing time after time just to bust them up. Get out and about, you will quickly see who does it more often and with larger amounts.
Not sure if its because its the Default Bish thing when you join or what.
Yeah, I don't know.....All I know is that I'm a base defender (basically looking for quick fast action and when the numbers are overwhelming I can then cry on 200 also. :D :lol :lol :lol) And during the times I get to fly I see the same things, only not on my green side...not to say they don't do it though, I know they do. But that is my time zone. and I also notice that when numbers dictate there are more brash attacks...
I just need as much red around me as possible...that way at least one or two will fly through my bullet stream at some point...I find it hard enough to fight the red guys let alone fight with my own side for a red guys :lol :lol :lol
so the breakdown here is better for me than no fight at all.
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Can we just have Blue back????? Bish by design!!! :rock
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Seriously?!? I don't change around much but each side is pretty much the same with their ways....just depends what time you fly I suppose..
All depends what your game is too. We commonly like to fight base defense so I guess guys that play that game see it more frequently. I have to say Dads has a valid point that certain chesspieces do have a common "theme" to syle they play. Its no secret the one country that has the most mega squads are the ones that gravitate to the real estate portion of the map. What I just cant stomach in this situation is that these same guys that are screaming bloody murder are the same guys that have no problems conducting that type of behavior themselves.
If there was a bug in the system, then why not report it once the arena was opened? Perhaps because these trolls were drooling at the fact that knock out all their bases until they had nowhere to fly and win one for ZA FATHERLAND.
I certainly would never codone the ganging and yes its wrong. More often than not I can honestly say even that I fly rook that Nits have always gotten the shaft on the ganging side and never a peep or cry to HT.SUCK IT UP, and find fun no matter the situation. Look at it this way, you had 1 base, least you could of thought all bish would of been concentrated there so no worries about calling for help :aok
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LOL,I recall Cz fighters escorting Az buffs to hit the Bz.Lighten up,it's a freaking game!
BurnOut
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Can we just have Blue back????? Bish by design!!! :rock
3pm to 3am(?) every day, POOF!! You have Blue back.
If there was a bug in the system, then why not report it once the arena was opened? Perhaps because these trolls were drooling at the fact that knock out all their bases until they had nowhere to fly and win one for ZA FATHERLAND.
From October: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,298854.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,298854.0.html)
This shot taken just a few minutes ago. Crooks have all the bases surrounding nit HQ. :huh
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I guess Nits just don't whine about being ganged, being used to it and all.
:rofl
wrongway
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:lol
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OK I have found a post in the thread I can fully support:
The last one by Bruv.
Rgds
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Dude your clueless
he is very clueless.....one of those people who you could say "The round in this weapon, once fired with it fixed at your temple, will kill you." and they will say nuh uhhhhhh then you do it...and then his ghosts comes around screaming "LIES! IT'S ALL LIES!" then floats off to his sheep. :lol
But what can ya do? :joystick:
Ah the days when we could take bombers off of CVs and fly around with the smoke....and when we got our first new map and it had incredibly high mountains that went STRAIGHT up! I remember following skuzzy in muh tank MG as he flew around and observed. What happened? :P :P
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From the screenshot of the Uterus map, it seemed like the Knights and the Rookies had no troubles capturing bases. Kind of sinks the argument that bases are too hard to capture. Keep back peddling though, it amuses me.
ack-ack
Just as I suspected:
Last month's stats for Ack-Ack
Late War Tour 130 Bomber Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 3390
Late War Tour 130 Attack Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 2667
Late War Tour 130 Vehicles and Boats Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 3358
Yes, Ack-Ack you are really tearing it up in that category. Oh snap!
I am not suggesting that you don't know anything about base capture. I am however questioning whether you have any interest in it.
Besides being a small map, and the locust horde "adaptation" of game play, base capture has had a more and more limited approach. The new villages look awesome, they just SUCK, when it comes to finding all of the destructible objects.
And yes I do have an interest in base captures. I would have been one of the first to switch sides and help push back, if there were any hope of doing anything other than padding another guys stats.
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Just as I suspected:
Last month's stats for Ack-Ack
Late War Tour 130 Bomber Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 3390
Late War Tour 130 Attack Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 2667
Late War Tour 130 Vehicles and Boats Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 3358
Yes, Ack-Ack you are really tearing it up in that category. Oh snap!
I am not suggesting that you don't know anything about base capture. I am however questioning whether you have any interest in it.
Besides being a small map, and the locust horde "adaptation" of game play, base capture has had a more and more limited approach. The new villages look awesome, they just SUCK, when it comes to finding all of the destructible objects.
And yes I do have an interest in base captures. I would have been one of the first to switch sides and help push back, if there were any hope of doing anything other than padding another guys stats.
I find it interesting how some players can spend all of their time on the BBS and in the arena talking about how low skilled the other players are at the game when their only skill or stat is flying one plane all of the time. The same players talk about no skill Gvers, yet have no GV points or any record of even being in a GV for many prior tours. Players who talk about how easy it is to capture bases yet don't even have a base capture or bomber score before or since the town layout changed back in June.
Scores are not very important in my book. I just think that if a fellow player is going to criticize other players for not having the skills to capture a base, operate a GV, or pilot a bomber, that person should have at least some record of doing those things recently himself.. The same players tell others how they should defend their bases, yet do not even have a Wirble or field gun score. This makes me think that as soon as the enemy gets cap on a base those guys bug out leaving it undefended.
Many of those Quote "Low Skilled Players" they talk about fly bombers, attack planes, fighters, and drive Gv's all in the same night while playing.
Maybe many players enjoy being decent at many things instead of being perfect at one thing in the game... I am sure that if a player spent all of his arena time flying only one plane, he or she would get very good in that plane over time. I see nothing wrong with this at all. It is the player that decides what he or she chooses to do in the game. But they shouldn't be telling another player how much they suck at capturing bases, flying bombers, or operating a GV when said player has no recent record of doing any of these things since before the game changed back in June. I emphasize the game change in June because before then, any NOOB could take a v-base, town, or port by himself if he wanted.
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To be fair to Ack-Ack, I must not throw stones. Looking at my glass house, I had identical field capture scores for last tour. :uhoh This indeed did surprise me some, but in retrospect, I have joined the ranks of those who feel it has become a waste of time to bring troops, even when someone is begging for them on channel. Most times, if the maproom is truly ready, there are already 30 other troops standing by (waste of manpower, since it only rewards the last troop that enters the maproom).
And back on topic, thanks for the correction with the map. :aok
But don't believe the hype that bases were rolling left and right. Earlier during the day players were rolling missions and able to grab turf. By the time the numbers grew, and bases for Bishops became few, the base capture ground to a screeching HAULT! The result was the merciless attacks repeated over and over with no push towards either country to win the war (or do anything other than fly cap over Bishop fields).
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So why is there a three sided war again?
Many of my frustrations with the game come back to this, and why I wish I could make more special events or the AvA was busier.
Most of the rest come back to folks who want the MA to be the DA, but I digress.
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Just as I suspected:
Last month's stats for Ack-Ack
Late War Tour 130 Bomber Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 3390
Late War Tour 130 Attack Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 2667
Late War Tour 130 Vehicles and Boats Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 3358
Yes, Ack-Ack you are really tearing it up in that category. Oh snap!
I am not suggesting that you don't know anything about base capture. I am however questioning whether you have any interest in it.
Besides being a small map, and the locust horde "adaptation" of game play, base capture has had a more and more limited approach. The new villages look awesome, they just SUCK, when it comes to finding all of the destructible objects.
And yes I do have an interest in base captures. I would have been one of the first to switch sides and help push back, if there were any hope of doing anything other than padding another guys stats.
All that really shows is that he did not bring troops.
OK back to my popcorn. :)
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All that really shows is that he did not bring troops.
I have been told today that I'm a furballer, because I haven't gotten credit for a base capture for some time. Me, a furballer... that's the most abominable insult to me in my 5 years of Aces High :furious
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I have been told today that I'm a furballer, because I haven't gotten credit for a base capture for some time. Me, a furballer... that's the most abominable insult to me in my 5 years of Aces High :furious
Time for a quick vacuuming. :D
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I find it interesting how some players can spend all of their time on the BBS and in the arena talking about how low skilled the other players are at the game when their only skill or stat is flying one plane all of the time. The same players talk about no skill Gvers, yet have no GV points or any record of even being in a GV for many prior tours. Players who talk about how easy it is to capture bases yet don't even have a base capture or bomber score before or since the town layout changed back in June.
Scores are not very important in my book. I just think that if a fellow player is going to criticize other players for not having the skills to capture a base, operate a GV, or pilot a bomber, that person should have at least some record of doing those things recently himself.. The same players tell others how they should defend their bases, yet do not even have a Wirble or field gun score. This makes me think that as soon as the enemy gets cap on a base those guys bug out leaving it undefended.
Many of those Quote "Low Skilled Players" they talk about fly bombers, attack planes, fighters, and drive Gv's all in the same night while playing.
Maybe many players enjoy being decent at many things instead of being perfect at one thing in the game... I am sure that if a player spent all of his arena time flying only one plane, he or she would get very good in that plane over time. I see nothing wrong with this at all. It is the player that decides what he or she chooses to do in the game. But they shouldn't be telling another player how much they suck at capturing bases, flying bombers, or operating a GV when said player has no recent record of doing any of these things since before the game changed back in June. I emphasize the game change in June because before then, any NOOB could take a v-base, town, or port by himself if he wanted.
Ah, yet another person using the useless rank system to ry to prove a point.
:aok
Why, pray tell, did you not post the entire thing?
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There is an imposter! :o My appologies AKAK. You sir did get credit for 1 base capture in a C47. My point is now moot, and my shame for pointing an improper finger :old: has been recorded. I snagged someone's stats with a similar game ID. It became obvious when P38J kills were absent. :salute
VonMessa, yes I was trying to prove a point, and I FAILED miserably. I didn't see the need to take up a page of text, but in retrospect, a better checking of all the facts before any post might have better served me.
I am only praying for some hint, that something other than the B29 will be in my Christmas stocking. :pray
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Just as I suspected:
Last month's stats for Ack-Ack
Late War Tour 130 Bomber Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 3390
Late War Tour 130 Attack Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 2667
Late War Tour 130 Vehicles and Boats Scores for ackack
Score Rank
SNIP
Field Captures 0 3358
Yes, Ack-Ack you are really tearing it up in that category. Oh snap!
I am not suggesting that you don't know anything about base capture. I am however questioning whether you have any interest in it.
Besides being a small map, and the locust horde "adaptation" of game play, base capture has had a more and more limited approach. The new villages look awesome, they just SUCK, when it comes to finding all of the destructible objects.
And yes I do have an interest in base captures. I would have been one of the first to switch sides and help push back, if there were any hope of doing anything other than padding another guys stats.
you might want to recheck my stats for last tour..
Tour 130 Bombers
Damage per Death 757.50 2196
Damage per Sortie 378.75 2280
Damage Hit Percentage 0.00 3396
Damage Points 757.50 2479
Field Captures 1 289
That was a result of my solo capture of a Vbase on TT island against 3 defenders. If you also look at my tours you'll also see scores for bombers and attack, depending on what I score my B-25H sorties as.
As for GVs, you should look at my MW stats for when I was in that arena exclusively for a few years and you'll see other occasional base captures and even me *GASP* in a GV.
But to tell you the truth, I no longer have any interests in capturing bases or driving GVs. Been there, done that and got a t-shirt.
ack-ack
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I find it interesting how some players can spend all of their time on the BBS and in the arena talking about how low skilled the other players are at the game when their only skill or stat is flying one plane all of the time. The same players talk about no skill Gvers, yet have no GV points or any record of even being in a GV for many prior tours. Players who talk about how easy it is to capture bases yet don't even have a base capture or bomber score before or since the town layout changed back in June.
Scores are not very important in my book. I just think that if a fellow player is going to criticize other players for not having the skills to capture a base, operate a GV, or pilot a bomber, that person should have at least some record of doing those things recently himself.. The same players tell others how they should defend their bases, yet do not even have a Wirble or field gun score. This makes me think that as soon as the enemy gets cap on a base those guys bug out leaving it undefended.
Many of those Quote "Low Skilled Players" they talk about fly bombers, attack planes, fighters, and drive Gv's all in the same night while playing.
Maybe many players enjoy being decent at many things instead of being perfect at one thing in the game... I am sure that if a player spent all of his arena time flying only one plane, he or she would get very good in that plane over time. I see nothing wrong with this at all. It is the player that decides what he or she chooses to do in the game. But they shouldn't be telling another player how much they suck at capturing bases, flying bombers, or operating a GV when said player has no recent record of doing any of these things since before the game changed back in June. I emphasize the game change in June because before then, any NOOB could take a v-base, town, or port by himself if he wanted.
Did you check 10 years ago? Do I need to bomb every day to know how easy it is?
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Yikes. :O
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/Jayhawk1/map.jpg)
You mean to tell me that The Knights and Rooks have not ever had this happen to them???
What comes around goes around.
... oh, and "hatred" is an awefully stong word to use when the topic of the discussion is a SIM/GAME. ;)
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you might want to recheck my stats for last tour..
Tour 130 Bombers
Damage per Death 757.50 2196
Damage per Sortie 378.75 2280
Damage Hit Percentage 0.00 3396
Damage Points 757.50 2479
Field Captures 1 289
That was a result of my solo capture of a Vbase on TT island against 3 defenders. If you also look at my tours you'll also see scores for bombers and attack, depending on what I score my B-25H sorties as.
As for GVs, you should look at my MW stats for when I was in that arena exclusively for a few years and you'll see other occasional base captures and even me *GASP* in a GV.
But to tell you the truth, I no longer have any interests in capturing bases or driving GVs. Been there, done that and got a t-shirt.
ack-ack
But your T Shirt says, "Drunk Chicks Think I'm Hot"
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But your T Shirt says, "Drunk Chicks Think I'm Hot"
When you get to be old, fat and bald - it just doesn't matter any more that they have to be drunk first. :)
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When you get to be old, fat and bald - it just doesn't matter any more that they have to be drunk first. :)
:rofl
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But your T Shirt says, "Drunk Chicks Think I'm Hot"
They do! That's why I hooked up with a chick that's got a drinking problem.
ack-ack
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Ah, yet another person using the useless rank system to ry to prove a point.
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Why, pray tell, did you not post the entire thing?
Clearly Vonmessa you did not comprehend what you read. My post has nothing to do with the ranking system. I could care less about it...
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Did you check 10 years ago? Do I need to bomb every day to know how easy it is?
I do not believe Sir that I even mentioned any persons name... Besides you cannot compare game play six months ago to game play now after they completely re made the town, and base layouts... Capturing towns and bases is alot different now ...
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I have been told today that I'm a furballer, because I haven't gotten credit for a base capture for some time. Me, a furballer... that's the most abominable insult to me in my 5 years of Aces High :furious
LOL I was called a spy. that's the worst insult since 4:30 PM today.
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I do not believe Sir that I even mentioned any persons name... Besides you cannot compare game play six months ago to game play now after they completely re made the town, and base layouts... Capturing towns and bases is alot different now ...
And as you can see my little dweebette, I do have a field capture after the new changes to the towns, airfields and Vbases and the capture I have was done solo against 3 defenders. Like I said, some whines are just born out of myths...
ack-ack
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I do not believe Sir that I even mentioned any persons name... Besides you cannot compare game play six months ago to game play now after they completely re made the town, and base layouts... Capturing towns and bases is alot different now ...
Different in that you, alone, cannot take down a town, by yourself, and roll troops to capture an air field base, with no help from anyone else.
I wasn't too subtle, was I?
It's as if, on a Massive, Multi-player, on-line game, you need some of the other players in order to accomplish something.
Who-da-thunk-it?
:banana:
wrongway
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Different in that you, alone, cannot take down a town, by yourself, and roll troops to capture an air field base, with no help from anyone else.
I wasn't too subtle, was I?
It's as if, on a Massive, Multi-player, on-line game, you need some of the other players in order to accomplish something.
Who-da-thunk-it?
:banana:
wrongway
What the heck are you talking about Wronway?? Did you see me complaining about the new base layouts? I really do not think that you even read my post. I think you just lit the flame and started writing... Nice attempt!! :salute
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What the heck are you talking about Wronway?? Did you see me complaining about the new base layouts? I really do not think that you even read my post. I think you just lit the flame and started writing... Nice attempt!! :salute
What you are assuming is that people that have no interest in base taking dont know how to do it? PFFFT... You would only wish you could have these guys flying in your mishunz. You obviously are not aware of the stages the normal long time player has in his AH career.
The majority of players after the second year of playing get incredibly bored of reseting the map or taking bases. Either from the thought of a never ending war, finally subcoming to the thought that it takes too much time to dedicate or just tired of shooting things that dont give a challenge. At this stage, they venture off to bigger challenges and test the waters for the art of dogfighting.
You Sky are obviously in the stage to where you see these guys as elitists and think just because they like killing red guys, that its all about score. Trust me..its not. Once you decide to expand your horizons, understand that there are other facets to this game besides basetaking, you will find a whole new refreshing meaning to this game.
Good luck to ya :aok
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I believe that the children are the future......................
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I believe that the children are the future......................
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wow really??? well ive met the children........and our future is now looking very bleak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ah that it is :(
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If you are correctly judging sentiment in the arenas then people need to do something else with their time because its a game...period...end of discussion. Hate the players, not the game. Making a game better or improving it's infrastructure shouldn't involve hate...I sure hope you are wrong or over-reacting.
Changeup
You & many others have totally missed the point of Dantoo's post. As usual you look at things with blinkers on & see only what you want to see.
It was not a matter of Bish being ganged. That happens to all countries from time to time. We all take our turn with that.
One should always be sure they know what the issue is before opening their mouths to put their foot or some other part of their body they might pee out of before commenting.
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And as you can see my little dweebette, I do have a field capture after the new changes to the towns, airfields and Vbases and the capture I have was done solo against 3 defenders. Like I said, some whines are just born out of myths...
ack-ack
Not sure what myth or whine that you are referring to. I was the one who mistakenly grabbed stats from someone who spelled his / her name the same as your BBS ID. I appologize for that, but you openly admit that you have little interest in base capture. This is the point that I was trying to make. You and Tralfaz, may feel that players should evolve into something other than strategic base capturers (or maybe that is not your view, but it sure comes off that way).
I have been playing since around 1999. I work an evening shift 7 days a week. The hours that I play are mostly off hours. I am entitled to have an opinion about game play that is boring with less than 30 opponents spread across a map (notice a logical train of thought, so no cheese or tissues needed).
Lusche's improvement on Cap system, actually saves progress from one day to the next. :aok There may need to be some tweaks, or just some getting used to the arena caps when they kick back in. Mostly this is because they are kicking in at a more populated time of day. But all in all, it should have been a good thing to have more available players for more fights. What maybe hasn't been taken into account was the prior preferences for LW Blue and LW Orange players. For the most part you saw the same guys in either. So, when they are combined the country balance at different times of the day may be off. This too, will correct or adjust itself.
What I fear might lead to loosing my few early OFF hours friends, is the increasing difficulty in base capture. The base captures have incrementally become more and more difficult. That sir, is no myth.
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Once you decide to expand your horizons, understand that there are other facets to this game besides basetaking, you will find a whole new refreshing meaning to this game.
I spend a fair amount of time with all aspects of the game and consider myself reasonably accomplished at all of them. Some things a little more than others, but I had continued to work on them. While quite good at it, bomber runs to hangers or strats is at a minimum to not at all for me. Boat busting is my forte and about the only time I up buffs these days. Put a boat near me and it's dead. Can hold my own in a tank and am proficient with whirbs and osties although it doesn't happen that much. De-acking, single hand large field ord and dar busting, town killing, map watching, are all special skills in my belt. Can pick, boom and zoom well enough, run fighter sweeps with squaddies, but prefer the low alt swirling vortex and can do that quite well for my purposes.
I play this game for one reason. One reason only. So far this week I have logged zero time in-game. NONE. The Nov tour has seen my in-game time fall easily in half from previous tours. I'm generally a daily, too many hours a day player.
Please don't presume to tell me what I should and shouldn't do with my in-game time. I do it for one reason only and I have no doubts whatsoever that the Majority in the country I fly for do it for those reasons as well.
And it's porked. ;)
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See Rule #4