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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: fudgums on January 01, 2011, 04:08:27 PM
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Ouch
Miss. State 52 Mich 14
Alabama 49 Mich St. 7
Florida 37 Penn State 24
Washington 19 Nebraska 7*
Texas Tech 45 Northwestern 31
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SEC vs BIG 10 3-0 , 2 of the games being complete blow outs
even more ouch
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BIG TEN.....
SUCKS!
Can't wait to see what happens to Ohio State in their bowl game. I am pulling for TCU right now to kick the crap out of Wisconsin!
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BIG TEN.....
SUCKS!
Can't wait to see what happens to Ohio State in their bowl game. I am pulling for TCU right now to kick the crap out of Wisconsin!
i agree, considering the only team that beat wisconsin this year Michigan State, got there arses kicked by Alabama! i think TCU has a good shot!
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Ouch
Miss. State 52 Mich 14
Alabama 49 Mich St. 7
Florida 37 Penn State 24
Washington 19 Nebraska 7*
Texas Tech 45 Northwestern 31
Error: Nebraska not in the Big Ten till 2011 season, but guess there is a reason for the "*". Not surprise for all the losses except the MSU vs Bama game.
BIG TEN.....
SUCKS!
Can't wait to see what happens to Ohio State in their bowl game. I am pulling for TCU right now to kick the crap out of Wisconsin!
tOSU will do the same like they have in the pass.
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Wow, slap to my face, anyway GO DUCKS!
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I know they're not, thats why I put the asterisk :)
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I know they're not, thats why I put the asterisk :)
OK, just checking. :aok :salute
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This is the time of the season when leagues are judged, and the Big Ten is on the spot. Again. Yes, the conference went 4-3 in bowls last season, the league's first winning postseason since 2002. But the six postseasons before that were disappointments: 3-5 in 2003, 3-3 in 2004, 3-4 in 2005, 2-5 in 2006, 3-5 in 2007 and 1-6 in 2008. And the Big Ten still is stained by Ohio State's losses in the BCS title games after the 2006 and '07 seasons. they are 2-5 this season so far with with 1 game left to go either 3-5 or 2-6.
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Not surprise for all the losses except the MSU vs Bama game.
I wasn't surprised at all. SEC teams are some of the best in the nation. Alabama had a rough year this year. I was really disappointed, it wasn't what I expected at all. But I'll take a 3 loss year any day. Today's performance was the Tide that I was expecting to see all year.
In just about any given game between an SEC team vs. any other conference, I will choose the SEC team (with the exception of this year's Nat'l Championships...I hate Auburn). My biggest surprise of any of the bowl games so far is Georgia vs. UCF in the Liberty Bowl. I figured UGA would steamroll a C-USA team in a heartbeat, but they played like crap. 10-6? Really? Pitiful. But, at least I was there to witness it with pretty good seats, and it was my first college football game!
#S#
Banshee7 Roll Tide
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Dear Big 10,
Take your vitamins and pray, maybe someday you'll be able to hang with the big kids.
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Dear Big 10,
Take your vitamins and pray, maybe someday you'll be able to hang with the big kids.
lol
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Only WVU would be the arrogant ones that believe a 3 loss season is bad, just adds onto my hate of them.
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Only WVU would be the arrogant ones that believe a 3 loss season is bad, just adds onto my hate of them.
The losses aren't the issue. It's WHO they lost too. Add on the sub-par play calling and general mis-use of talent. Case in point: The overtime loss to Uconn. Noel Devine isn't in for a single snap. Jock Sanders is in for 1 play. You give the ball to your fumble prone fullback 2 plays in a row, one of which he guess what....FUMBLES.
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Big Ten teams are built to play Big Ten schools. Once they run into passing offenses of southern conferences, they fail hard. The Rose Bowl showed that, the Florida/Florida St/Miami teams of the 90's and 2000's. Big Ten is great for producing offensive linemen and larger positions for the NFL.
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SEC will start going down as another conference will dominate the bowl games.
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the SEC will probably go 7-3 in bowl games this year i doubt they will become a weak conference anytime soon
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the SEC will probably go 7-3 in bowl games this year i doubt they will become a weak conference anytime soon
Never know. Slowly loosing good coaches.
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Never know. Slowly loosing good coaches.
5 things are certain.
1. Florida and Bama will remain powerhouses as they have for the last 60+ years.
2. Fans will not tolerate losing, and the teams will hire newer coaches to get W's.
3. Many of the best recruits will keep coming out of the south where the SEC teams can woo them easily.
4. Teams like Miss. St., Kentucky and S.Car will keep getting better.
5. Tennessee will rise again as a dominant force in the SEC, it will just take a bit of time.
Oh, wait...
6. The SEC is, as it will continue to be for the rest of time, unstoppable. :devil
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Big Ten teams are built to play Big Ten schools. Once they run into passing offenses of southern conferences, they fail hard. The Rose Bowl showed that, the Florida/Florida St/Miami teams of the 90's and 2000's. Big Ten is great for producing offensive linemen and larger positions for the NFL.
I agree some of the best offensive and defensive linemen come out of the Big 10 as well as some pretty big running backs.
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5 things are certain.
1. Florida and Bama will remain powerhouses as they have for the last 60+ years.
2. Fans will not tolerate losing, and the teams will hire newer coaches to get W's.
3. Many of the best recruits will keep coming out of the south where the SEC teams can woo them easily.
4. Teams like Miss. St., Kentucky and S.Car will keep getting better.
5. Tennessee will rise again as a dominant force in the SEC, it will just take a bit of time.
Oh, wait...
6. The SEC is, as it will continue to be for the rest of time, unstoppable. :devil
Nothing last forever.
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Some one brought up the rosebowl.....I remember Ohio State winning that last year....and beating the same Oregon team
that is playing for the national championship this year.
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and that same oregon will get exposed by auburn!
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Don't forget that the Big Ten schools populate those regions that are declining in population and economic opportunity. Used to be filled with sons of steel and auto workers - now, not so much.
And those northern midwestern states are losing population to the states that contain the schools of the SEC.
Avoid hubris, for what you're seeing as continuity of tradition in some great SEC schools has more to do with social and economic forces that are beyond our control. Enjoy it, for the worm will eventually turn.
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But athletes will always be turned on by the football powerhouses such as Ohio State, Penn State, Nebraska, etc.
I look at it this way, if you compare a mediocre SEC school such as Kentucky vs the opportunity to play at Ohio State, pretty sure they would choose Ohio State.
These large schools recruit from all over the country so it doesnt really matter in that case though.
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Don't forget that the Big Ten schools populate those regions that are declining in population and economic opportunity. Used to be filled with sons of steel and auto workers - now, not so much.
And those northern midwestern states are losing population to the states that contain the schools of the SEC.
Avoid hubris, for what you're seeing as continuity of tradition in some great SEC schools has more to do with social and economic forces that are beyond our control. Enjoy it, for the worm will eventually turn.
You must be hanging around on the rivals.com forums. I really do not think the declining population and drowning economy is a result of south increasing population.
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5 things are certain.
1. Florida and Bama will remain powerhouses as they have for the last 60+ years.
2. Fans will not tolerate losing, and the teams will hire newer coaches to get W's.
3. Many of the best recruits will keep coming out of the south where the SEC teams can woo them easily.
4. Teams like Miss. St., Kentucky and S.Car will keep getting better.
5. Tennessee will rise again as a dominant force in the SEC, it will just take a bit of time.
Oh, wait...
6. The SEC is, as it will continue to be for the rest of time, unstoppable. :devil
Don't know that I would describe Alabama as a 'powerhouse'
Year W L
2009 14 0
2008 12 2
Was 7-6 in 2007; required to vacate first five wins due to textbook scandal. (Alabama appealed and the NCAA rejected the appeal on 03/23/2010.)
2007 2 6
Was 6-7 in 2006; required to vacate all six wins due to textbook scandal.
2006 0 7
Was 10-2 in 2005; required to vacate all ten wins due to textbook scandal.
2005 0 2
2004 6 6
2003 4 9
2002 10 3
2001 7 5
2000 3 8
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You must be hanging around on the rivals.com forums. I really do not think the declining population and drowning economy is a result of south increasing population.
Never heard of those forums.
From a macroeconomic standpoint, it's pretty clear that manufacturing jobs have moved from "the rustbelt" to the south, and have been doing so for years. From what I've heard of the 2010 census, a good portion of the increase in southern population has been from intra-US migration, and that has been cited as a trend to watch in the political future - northerners and easterners who move south and west tend to maintain their political viewpoints, so they may start to form a blue - leaning minority in otherwise pretty red southern regions.
Off the top of my head, Michigan actually lost population in the last ten years - due to migration, not due to deaths outnumbering births. Ohio and several other near midwest states grew, but grew more slowly than the country as a whole.
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Economics and population density haven't got squat to do with a college football team being good or even a conference being good or not. It might have 50 years ago but certainly not in the last 30 years.
Oh and as for those offensive linemen...IF the NFL is wanting any decent ones they better not look at the way that Alabama defensive line handled Michigan States offensive line. Those 5 boys from up in Michigan were completely outclassed by all of them that Alabama had playing.
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Never heard of those forums.
From a macroeconomic standpoint, it's pretty clear that manufacturing jobs have moved from "the rustbelt" to the south, and have been doing so for years. From what I've heard of the 2010 census, a good portion of the increase in southern population has been from intra-US migration, and that has been cited as a trend to watch in the political future - northerners and easterners who move south and west tend to maintain their political viewpoints, so they may start to form a blue - leaning minority in otherwise pretty red southern regions.
Off the top of my head, Michigan actually lost population in the last ten years - due to migration, not due to deaths outnumbering births. Ohio and several other near midwest states grew, but grew more slowly than the country as a whole.
Thee must be dozens of ppl on rival.com forum that made that statement. It is quit comic reading the SEC nut heads pounding their chest on how great they think they are.
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Don't know that I would describe Alabama as a 'powerhouse'
Year W L
2009 14 0
2008 12 2
Was 7-6 in 2007; required to vacate first five wins due to textbook scandal. (Alabama appealed and the NCAA rejected the appeal on 03/23/2010.)
2007 2 6
Was 6-7 in 2006; required to vacate all six wins due to textbook scandal.
2006 0 7
Was 10-2 in 2005; required to vacate all ten wins due to textbook scandal.
2005 0 2
2004 6 6
2003 4 9
2002 10 3
2001 7 5
2000 3 8
I'm talking about when Alabama had Bear Bryant, the golden years of Bama football. The late 90's and early 2000's were not kind to Bama.
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Don't know that I would describe Alabama as a 'powerhouse'
Year W L
2009 14 0
2008 12 2
Was 7-6 in 2007; required to vacate first five wins due to textbook scandal. (Alabama appealed and the NCAA rejected the appeal on 03/23/2010.)
2007 2 6
Was 6-7 in 2006; required to vacate all six wins due to textbook scandal.
2006 0 7
Was 10-2 in 2005; required to vacate all ten wins due to textbook scandal.
2005 0 2
2004 6 6
2003 4 9
2002 10 3
2001 7 5
2000 3 8
And you can't negate them being a powerhouse using the last ten years...
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I'm talking about when Alabama had Bear Bryant, the golden years of Bama football. The late 90's and early 2000's were not kind to Bama.
That's 6 headcoaches ago.....correction...7
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And you can't negate them being a powerhouse using the last ten years...
I wouldn't say the last 2 years makes them one....and if you aren't perennially at the top or close to it I wouldn't say they are a powerhouse.
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I wouldn't say the last 2 years makes them one....and if you aren't perennially at the top or close to it I wouldn't say they are a powerhouse.
what gets me is voters put BIG 10 at the top year after year and then they get blown out in the BCS when they put out of conference teams .. atleast over the past 6 years thats been the case. this year the big 10 has been exposed for the fraud it is without a doubt. just like UGA getting beat by a C-USA team a Non-BCS put the screws to a supposely #4 team in the nation. even though TCU was ranked #3, wisconsin was overrated to start with though. i dont understand how voters think the BIG 10 deserves such a high ranking when the past 7=8 seasons in bowl games they had only one winning bowl game. i bring as example when cincy was ranked #3 from the big east and got waxed in their BCS game. who thought they was ranked #3? cause of a record?? like Oregon SoS is in the yupper 70's and Auburn's SoS was like 11, Oregon had a 7x easier schedule to go undefeated then Auburn and somehow they are worthy of a #2 ranking???
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what gets me is voters put BIG 10 at the top year after year and then they get blown out in the BCS when they put out of conference teams .. atleast over the past 6 years thats been the case. this year the big 10 has been exposed for the fraud it is without a doubt. just like UGA getting beat by a C-USA team a Non-BCS put the screws to a supposely #4 team in the nation. even though TCU was ranked #3, wisconsin was overrated to start with though. i dont understand how voters think the BIG 10 deserves such a high ranking when the past 7=8 seasons in bowl games they had only one winning bowl game. i bring as example when cincy was ranked #3 from the big east and got waxed in their BCS game. who thought they was ranked #3? cause of a record?? like Oregon SoS is in the yupper 70's and Auburn's SoS was like 11, Oregon had a 7x easier schedule to go undefeated then Auburn and somehow they are worthy of a #2 ranking???
It all comes to this......................... ..wBCS!
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It is not about which team is the best in the country. It is all about hype and the generating of BIG dollars.
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well theres not gonna be much hype if they keep having BIG failures
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Down the street from Ohio State Campus's in Columbus
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0107/dal_e_tcubillboard_sy_576.jpg)
The billboards seem to be a jab at Ohio State president E. Gordon Gee, who had made derogatory comments about the quality of non-automatic qualifying schools such as TCU and Boise State.
"I do know, having been both a Southeastern Conference president and a Big Ten president, that it's like murderer's row every week for these schools," Gee said in late November. "We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor. We play very fine schools on any given day.
"So I think until a university runs through that gauntlet that there's some reason to believe that they not be the best teams to [be] in the big ballgame."
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/news/story?id=5998053 (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/news/story?id=5998053)
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:lol :lol :aok
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With the win Ohio is first in BCS wins. The Buckeyes have 6. They've surpassed Fla. and USC with each having 5.
I know there are a large portion of Ohio State University haters out there. But you have to admit that every year
they reload and always end up in the top 10. Most times in the top 5. Not many programs can say that. Even programs in
the SEC which I agree at this time is the best conference in the country in football. But as always, things change.
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they reload and always end up in the top 10. Most times in the top 5.
Yes, but whether or not they win the National Championship is another matter entirely. The last 3 years, an SEC team has won it. The last three years, an SEC team has pulled it away from the Buckeyes twice. The SEC can finish whereas Ohio State has proven that they have trouble doing so.
Ohio State is a great team, no doubt, but they lack the ability to finish some games.
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Wildcat....ya they lost 3 and won one this decade........point is one team has been there 4 times.
How many other teams can say that? And.....OSU beat the Oregon team that is in the National
Championship game this year in the rose Bowl last year. As I remember auburn barely won last year
against a big ten team that finished in the middle of the big ten race. Also check the Bowl records from last year.
I think you'll find that the Big Ten did very very well.
Thank you for validating my point in the previous post. Florida won't be in the top 5, neither will teams
like Alabama, Ark S Carolina etc. Ohio State is as stated above top ten always top 5 most of the time.
Year after year. Also....has been some talk about moving Bowl games up north. If the SEC had to
play games in the weather up north they'd build teams as the Big Ten does. Wonder how they'd do
in 20 degree weather instead of playing in perfect weather conditions all year? (no snow, no cold wind, no ice)
Football much more difficult to kick or throw in cold weather. I also must point out that Ohio State has the record
for most 1st round draft picks in a single draft and most 1st round picks over all plus 7 Heisman Trophies.
How many SEC schools come close? Football was made to play in all weather not just where it is warm.
Remember....the NFL started in Canton Ohio. I agree at this time SEC is the most competitive conference.
Being 61 years old I also know that changes with time. But Ohio State no matter what conference, is there
year after year. What's happened to texas? USC? Florida is on the way down etc. With time comes change.
Always :aok
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2010-2011 Conference Bowl Records (through 1/4/11):
◦Mountain West: 4-1
◦ACC: 4-4
◦Big East: 3-2
◦SEC: 3-4
◦Big 12: 3-4
◦Big Ten: 3-5
◦Pac-10: 2-1
◦Sun Belt: 2-0
◦C-USA: 2-4
◦WAC: 1-2
well theres no real powerhouse conference in the bowl games, Sec, Big10 and Big12 all under 500 in bowl games, there is just no way to compare conferences until they all play each other on a regular schedule and we know that will never happen
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But Ohio State no matter what conference, is there
year after year. What's happened to texas? USC? Florida is on the way down etc. With time comes change.
Always :aok
That is vary true. OSU keeps up as a good program from coach to coach. while other schools struggle to replace the previous coach that had winning seasons.
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There was a game at the Rose Bowl this year? :confused: :bolt:
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That is vary true. OSU keeps up as a good program from coach to coach. while other schools struggle to replace the previous coach that had winning seasons.
This is why as a Gators fan I know going to suck for a loooong time.
Brantley is not a spread QB which hurt last year and how Muschamp and Weis will do with a pro style offense in the SEC is a curiosity. Brantley is a pro style QB so it will help him.
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Flame me however much you guys want, but I will ALWAYS bleed scarlet and grey. :rock
Born and raised as a proud Buckeye fan.
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ask me about your boy clorette, don't need to flame you!
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Go Green!!
and yes, we lost. there is always next year!