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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: CAP1 on January 12, 2011, 10:14:54 PM
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there's two versions of the trackir5. one is the "pro" bundle. looks like that one has a usb or battery powered led clip for tracking. the regular one looks to come with just a reflective one. no picture, so i don't know hwat it connects to.
price difference is $20.00. is the led one worth the extra money? what do you guys use? i'm about to pull the trigger on it since i can;'t afford the really good vr goggles.
thanks doods!!
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TrackClip Pro is the led emmiter that clips to your headset. That's what I use with my TIR4 hardware. It's an extra wire hanging down with my headset wire, but I think it's worth it. I never used the reflectors that clip onto a baseball cap. I saw no reason to wear a hat while sitting at my computer.
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I have read a few posts here that lead me to believe the 'Pro' Clip is a rather fragile piece of hardware.
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I use the Track Hat, as I don't like to wear the headset all the time. No problems.
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I use the Track Hat, as I don't like to wear the headset all the time. No problems.
Do the voice options on track hat work in AH?
http://www.fspilotshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=1939
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Do the voice options on track hat work in AH?
Oh sorry, I don't mean that track hat but the hat with reflector clips for my TrackIr
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I have read a few posts here that lead me to believe the 'Pro' Clip is a rather fragile piece of hardware.
Yes it's delicate; as with anything, it's how you treat it and care for it.
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define "delicate"?
i'm no clumsy oaf(most of the time), but i'm also not the most careful person in the world either. :noid
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How delicate is your headset/mic? Just don't go throwing it around or setting your keyboard (or your butt) on it. :D
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I have read a few posts here that lead me to believe the 'Pro' Clip is a rather fragile piece of hardware.
It is - although they have since improved it.
I am on my second and, comparing the two designs, the second was beefed up quite a bit.
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OK...GONNA HIjack my own thread.....what do you guys use for headsets? right now, i've been using a somewhat cheesy set, that goes behind my head, rather than over.
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I use a Logitech (I think 350 series) headset that I picked up at Walmart for about $35-40. I've been using this one for over a year now. It has a boom style mic that is adjustable up and down & in and out ( closer or further from the mouth). My squaddies have always said it sounds good. :salute
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I use an eDimensional AudioFX Force Feedback Gaming Headset. Fun when tanking, you can feel the vibration of approaching GV's through your head
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You can buy the TrackClip separately if you decide to just get the reflective hat piece and don't like it. It'll cost $35 + postage though. http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/02-products/product-TrackClip-PRO.html (http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/02-products/product-TrackClip-PRO.html) Now available in white and red, as well as black! :lol
I got the TrackClip as I already wore a headset and didn't want to wear a hat whenever I flew. It is a bit delicate. If you drop it and it lands the wrong way there's a fair chance it'll break. Mine has been fine since I got it, but broke while moving a few months ago.
It's these two tiny plastic pegs that might snap.
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/962brokentrackclippro.jpg)
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You can buy the TrackClip separately if you decide to just get the reflective hat piece and don't like it. It'll cost $35 + postage though. http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/02-products/product-TrackClip-PRO.html (http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/02-products/product-TrackClip-PRO.html) Now available in white and red, as well as black! :lol
I got the TrackClip as I already wore a headset and didn't want to wear a hat whenever I flew. It is a bit delicate. If you drop it and it lands the wrong way there's a fair chance it'll break. Mine has been fine since I got it, but broke while moving a few months ago.
It's these two tiny plastic pegs that might snap.
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/962brokentrackclippro.jpg)
hhmm......that looks like a weak point in the design. probably easy to reinforce.......gonna order em up tonight when i get home.
i need all the friggin help i can get.....i keep losing cons at low alt when i switch views.........
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Mine came with a broken peg...I now have both items
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Moving from hatswitch to a TrackIR type system has an adjustment curve and you will initially become worse. I'm not trying to put you off, just don't give up on it!
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I've had my clip for over a year now, possibly two, and never had it break at all. I don't think I've taken any particular care really, maybe I just got an extra strong one, or have been really lucky. I clip it on my headset, no problems at all. I'd say give the clip a shot man, I'm almost certain you'll love it.
As for the headset: Turtle Beach HPA2 for the win!! http://pcgamingcorner.com/wordpress/?p=1485
http://www.amazon.com/Force-HPA2-Surround-Gaming-Headset/dp/B001BS4YAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294951481&sr=8-1
The mic sounds great and is totally flexible, so it never gets in the way. The positional audio is fantastic, they sound really great for music and movies. Also, I might add, they're the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn.
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Moving from hatswitch to a TrackIR type system has an adjustment curve and you will initially become worse. I'm not trying to put you off, just don't give up on it!
you've never seen me handle a p-38, have ya? can't get much worse. :bolt:
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I was forced to use the clip because Mrs. Wiley kept breaking into uncontrollable laughter every time she walked by me with the ballcap on.
The clip is not a load bearing device, by any stretch, but as long as you don't put anything heavy on it that actually breaks the plastic, it'll be ok. Mine has a tendency if I happen to drop my headset to come apart at the one joint in cactuskooler's pic, but it's soft enough it just appears to go back together with no permanent harm done, on mine. I had thought about reinforcing it, but what worries me about that is if you reinforce it before it breaks, and it has something heavy enough on it, I'd say it would be more likely to break worse. I know I've dropped my headphones and if I'd had it taped or whatever, I'm reasonably certain it'd have broken similar to cactuskooler's.
As for a headset, I use a set of Zalman 5.1 surround headphones. They're pretty inexpensive for a surround setup, but I've had wires inside them break, so I'm on my second set. I don't believe I'd recommend them to another person, they're good enough for me though.
Wiley.
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Mine has a tendency if I happen to throw my headset to come apart at the one joint in cactuskooler's pic, but it's soft enough it just appears to go back together with no permanent harm done, on mine.
Wiley.
;)
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I was forced to use the clip because Mrs. Wiley kept breaking into uncontrollable laughter every time she walked by me with the ballcap on...
Tell me about it. First time Mrs. Bino spotted me wearing mine, she archly inquired, "Does the hat make you fly better?" :rolleyes:
I recall reading - I think it was on the TrackIR forums - that the cap-mounted reflectors end up being farther away from the center of rotation of your head, and so might make it easier for the TrackIR to pick up movement. I still use the reflector on a cap with my TrackIR 3. YMMV
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WHAT's really funny for me, is that mom's visiting....well...she way....just left for florida today. anyway, she hears me talking, on vox, she hears when there's fights last night, with us all watching out for each other......first she laughs, being as a grown man does this....then she asks "are you REALLY" flying with other real people?
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I've had my clip for over a year now, possibly two, and never had it break at all. I don't think I've taken any particular care really, maybe I just got an extra strong one, or have been really lucky. I clip it on my headset, no problems at all. I'd say give the clip a shot man, I'm almost certain you'll love it.
As for the headset: Turtle Beach HPA2 for the win!! http://pcgamingcorner.com/wordpress/?p=1485
http://www.amazon.com/Force-HPA2-Surround-Gaming-Headset/dp/B001BS4YAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294951481&sr=8-1
The mic sounds great and is totally flexible, so it never gets in the way. The positional audio is fantastic, they sound really great for music and movies. Also, I might add, they're the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn.
That's the same headset I use and agree totally.
I even have my TIR mounted on the top of it,no need to wear a hat.
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ordered......i am now prepared to get a whole lot worse. :bolt:
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Warning: TrackIr camera does not like it to be drowned in a cup of tea :(
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Warning: TrackIr camera does not like it to be drowned in a cup of tea :(
so if it falls into my soda it'll be ok? :D :bolt:
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so if it falls into my soda it'll be ok? :D :bolt:
I'm reluctant to comment on things I haven't tested myself. ;)
The tea thing I did today. Wrecked both my new TFT as well as my TrackIR, with no hopes of being able to replace any of them this year. I'm back to a 17" CRT now :(
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I'm reluctant to comment on things I haven't tested myself. ;)
The tea thing I did today. Wrecked both my new TFT as well as my TrackIR, with no hopes of being able to replace any of them this year. I'm back to a 17" CRT now :(
It's not a cell phone nor does it have an internal battery. Take the lense off and put it in a cup of denatured alchahol and then let it dry for a couple days. Make sure the circuit board is completely dry before plugging it in. Might just fire up for you.
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ordered......i am now prepared to get a whole lot worse. :bolt:
OH GOODY!!!!!
Seriously Cap when you get it lets run to the TA and fly around so you can get used to it bro <S>
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I'm reluctant to comment on things I haven't tested myself. ;)
The tea thing I did today. Wrecked both my new TFT as well as my TrackIR, with no hopes of being able to replace any of them this year. I'm back to a 17" CRT now :(
dam......so sorry for being a wise bellybutton sir.....i really thought you were joking.
try to let it dry out.....you might get it to work. :aok
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OH GOODY!!!!!
Seriously Cap when you get it lets run to the TA and fly around so you can get used to it bro <S>
i'll prolly take ya up on that.......... :aok
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I'm reluctant to comment on things I haven't tested myself. ;)
The tea thing I did today. Wrecked both my new TFT as well as my TrackIR, with no hopes of being able to replace any of them this year. I'm back to a 17" CRT now :(
@#$%@#
I'm sorry Snailman.. dang :(
Cap.. just let me know bro
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Howdy Cap, Dicho
Quick request, when you set up your TIR, let me know how easy it was. I have TIR4 just sitting here in a box and have never installed or used it.Any pointers would be great!
Thanks
<S>
Mbailey
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I got a ww2 leather flying cap, pulled headset apart and put speakers into the spaces and attached mic to the strap!
Much more comfy than original headset plus the family laughs at me each time I put it on.
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I got a ww2 leather flying cap, pulled headset apart and put speakers into the spaces and attached mic to the strap!
Much more comfy than original headset plus the family laughs at me each time I put it on.
i was thinking of doing something like that.
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Quick request, when you set up your TIR, let me know how easy it was. I have TIR4 just sitting here in a box and have never installed or used it.Any pointers would be great!
It's very simple. Follow the directions. :D
It's been a while, but I think I remember (even when I upgraded the software from v4 to v5)...install the software BEFORE hooking up the hardware. Then run the software and see if it tracks your movements. You can tweak one of the stock flight sim profiles, or grab and import one that someone posted specific for AH2.
The one thing I recommend it being a little aggressive with the scaling so you don't have to turn your head very far to get your game head to look 180 behind you. I sit about 3 feet from my 24" widescreen monitor and only have to turn my head so my nose is pointed at the side of the monitor for my game head to be looking behind me. Set a small dead zone in the middle so your game head doesn't bob around when you're trying to just look straight ahead (I rarely keep my head perfectly still in real life). Helps with people who easily get queasy, and helps to steady up when you want to take a shot at someone.
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You might look at this too. Free Track is a free software download that use your webcam and you build the cap or whatever pointer device.
The Tracr ir5 is somewhere around $150. I spent $4.38 and I'm having a blast with Free Track.
Not sure how to isert hyperlinks.
http://www.free-track.net/english/
http://www.free-track.net/english/ (http://www.free-track.net/english/)
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Howdy Cap, Dicho
Quick request, when you set up your TIR, let me know how easy it was. I have TIR4 just sitting here in a box and have never installed or used it.Any pointers would be great!
Thanks
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Mbailey
I run win7. As I remember I had problems getting Trackir4 to work with AH. Had to use TrackIr5 software.
My clip broke at the weak point also. Its not just plastic its cheap plastic.
Fixed it for a while with rubber bands.
Its my opinion but for what they charge those things should be built more rugged.
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It's very simple. Follow the directions. :D
:rofl Ill keep that in mind.
Actually i dont have any of the software, would have to dl it from the site. I guess what i meant is getting it set up in game. (views,calibration etc) I had it but mine broke a little while ago,(of course i dont have any software,or idea how i had it set up in my settings folder) so setting it up will be like the movie Awakenings lol
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I guess what i meant is getting it set up in game. (views,calibration etc)
There is nothing to set up in the game; it just works. There is an option in the view settings that may or may not be needed, depending on how you have your TIR profile set up. Basically, it reverses your head movement while looking back. Your hat switch views will override the TIR input...sometimes that's a good thing.
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I was forced to use the clip because Mrs. Wiley kept breaking into uncontrollable laughter every time she walked by me with the ballcap on.
The clip is not a load bearing device, by any stretch, but as long as you don't put anything heavy on it that actually breaks the plastic, it'll be ok. Mine has a tendency if I happen to drop my headset to come apart at the one joint in cactuskooler's pic, but it's soft enough it just appears to go back together with no permanent harm done, on mine. I had thought about reinforcing it, but what worries me about that is if you reinforce it before it breaks, and it has something heavy enough on it, I'd say it would be more likely to break worse. I know I've dropped my headphones and if I'd had it taped or whatever, I'm reasonably certain it'd have broken similar to cactuskooler's.
As for a headset, I use a set of Zalman 5.1 surround headphones. They're pretty inexpensive for a surround setup, but I've had wires inside them break, so I'm on my second set. I don't believe I'd recommend them to another person, they're good enough for me though.
Wiley.
I am reading old posts to get a feel what to buy as to a Track IR setup.
My wife of over 30 years already knows I am nuts before ever playing this game. I have nasal allergies, and where I have my PC setup I need to wear a N95 type dust mask with my headphones. So as to uncontrollable laughter, there you go.
Been thinking of getting an aircraft cockpit section through Air Force surplus and set it up in a room or independent custom built outbuilding to confirm what my wife already knows about me. LOL
I want the Track IR setup mostly for flying a different game, jets and helicopters.
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I run win7. As I remember I had problems getting Trackir4 to work with AH. Had to use TrackIr5 software.
My clip broke at the weak point also. Its not just plastic its cheap plastic.
Fixed it for a while with rubber bands.
Its my opinion but for what they charge those things should be built more rugged.
I am a retired machinist with a basement, home shop. If mine breaks. I will figure out a fix and maybe sell retrofits made out of anodized aluminum. Maybe I will make my million-dollar idea, yet!
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Daubie,
Its easy to use and easy to setup when you first get it. Generally takes about 1-2 days to get past the queasy feeling that MIGHT hit you. After that you are good to go.
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Daubie,
Its easy to use and easy to setup when you first get it. Generally takes about 1-2 days to get past the queasy feeling that MIGHT hit you. After that you are good to go.
the hardest things i'm finding right now, are getting as set that i'm totally comfortable with.......thanks to dot, i've been using one he was kind enough to share, and it's coming along.
the absolute BIGGEST problem i'm having with the trackir right now, is ME. i go offline, fly circles around the drones, i do ok. go into the ta, i do kinda ok. even in the ava the other night, as i was climbing out, imadot was flying circles around me. i was watching him, and the only times i lost view of him was when he went directly under me, or hit my blind spot dead six low.
the problem i'm having is that when i get into combat, i move too much too fast. it's not a problem with the trackir, but with me. my own stupidity in not being able to learn to hold still, or move more calmly.
i will fix it, because this thing is friggin GREAT. i love it.
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Yeah it's a blast! It took me about a whole month to get really good with it, but it's worth it.
I never got the 'sick to my stomach' feeling... well at least unless I was hung over. Then again, I never get motion sickness either.. unless I am hung over.
I remember the first time I played after installing it, my squad was having a blast with dogfights down in a narrow canyon. We had a bunch of 109's and a few 262's come after us and yes I got my... well this: :ahand but it was a blast! Now I can't play without it.
I will add though that in bombers and tanks, it's usually better to turn it off. I have a button programmed on my stick to turn it on/off and also to center it.