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Title: A20s
Post by: JUGgler on January 18, 2011, 10:07:05 AM
Cobia, Bullz LOL  I was surrounded by rooks who were all very upset over their percieved idea that something you were doing was immoral and smelled of "C word" !!


wtg (kiss my havoc), the tyrades you created gave me much laughter !  <S>




JUGgler
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Yeager on January 18, 2011, 10:33:50 AM
has the A20 been nerfed as of late?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: dedalos on January 18, 2011, 10:37:16 AM
has the A20 been nerfed as of late?

Nerfed?  I had no idea it was a supper plane.  Cobia is the one needing nerfing lol
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: cobia38 on January 18, 2011, 11:29:16 AM
Cobia, Bullz LOL  I was surrounded by rooks who were all very upset over their percieved idea that something you were doing was immoral and smelled of "C word" !!


wtg (kiss my havoc), the tyrades you created gave me much laughter !  <S>




JUGgler

  Chaos..... its what we strive for  :D    <S>
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 68ZooM on January 18, 2011, 11:30:09 AM
lol yea it's the latest F3 Fighter plane now
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: cobia38 on January 18, 2011, 11:37:56 AM
lol yea it's the latest F3 Fighter plane now

  sorry zoom, but i dont do the il2 overshoot bit
  i prefer to saddle up on a cons six and saw there wings off
  out of the thousands of planes i have shot down in an A-20 only a handfull have been done in F3
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Yeager on January 18, 2011, 11:50:28 AM
flew a few sorties in it recently and had some wing breakage occur where I had not experienced that under similar circumstances before.  Also tore the elevators off several times in what I can only describe as pretty standard work.

Just curious if anyone else noticed anything or if I was just taking another stroll down anomaly road.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: dedalos on January 18, 2011, 12:50:05 PM
flew a few sorties in it recently and had some wing breakage occur where I had not experienced that under similar circumstances before.  Also tore the elevators off several times in what I can only describe as pretty standard work.

Just curious if anyone else noticed anything or if I was just taking another stroll down anomaly road.

Wings always fall off if you were a bit fast and pulled on the stick.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: druski85 on January 18, 2011, 01:20:20 PM
flew a few sorties in it recently and had some wing breakage occur where I had not experienced that under similar circumstances before.  Also tore the elevators off several times in what I can only describe as pretty standard work.

Just curious if anyone else noticed anything or if I was just taking another stroll down anomaly road.

No, she's a feisty mistress and it was not an anomaly.  Control surfaces have a tendency to pop off with heavy G's at speed, soon followed by the wings themselves.   :joystick:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: ROX on January 18, 2011, 01:55:28 PM
I thought it pretty wild that the nits came in en mass with mostly Brewsters, A-20's, some LA7's, and the rest were ponies.

Town was white flag but they weren't there to make a take attempt.  All the rooks were low so it was a cherry-pickers delight for nits and they did well.  A-20 is under rated in some ways because it's an "earlier" war ride, but it turns very well (large wings) when it's not loaded down with lots of bombs or fuel.  Those guys last night flew them very well.  They had to because A-20's don't dive well and parts break off at high speed dives.

It's no different than in Air Warrior when plenty of guys would dogfight (especially 1 v 1's) in those A-26's we had.  Those guys who racked up hundreds of scalps in them were something else.  Ya had to respect that.  Wish we had A-26's.  :pray
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 02:13:23 PM
i'd rather take a b25C with strafer option than an a20.  :airplane:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: bj229r on January 18, 2011, 02:20:47 PM
  sorry zoom, but i dont do the il2 overshoot bit
  i prefer to saddle up on a cons six and saw there wings off
  out of the thousands of planes i have shot down in an A-20 only a handfull have been done in F3
I can confirm that :salute





bastid.....
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: oTRALFZo on January 18, 2011, 03:58:31 PM
A20s are frekin awsome.

You cant help but laugh when they come up thinking its easy meat but end up chasing them down. Very nimble and Ive seen Cobia do some serious damage
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Slash27 on January 18, 2011, 04:09:06 PM
lol yea it's the latest F3 Fighter plane now
For those two not so much. They are just that good in them.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: cobia38 on January 18, 2011, 04:26:46 PM
flew a few sorties in it recently and had some wing breakage occur where I had not experienced that under similar circumstances before.  Also tore the elevators off several times in what I can only describe as pretty standard work.

Just curious if anyone else noticed anything or if I was just taking another stroll down anomaly road.
 
  thats why its not an easy mode plane,you have to constantly watch your speed or you loose parts.
  but once you figure out the edge of the tear off speed, you can do some wild things with it and thats what makes it fun.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: toonces3 on January 18, 2011, 04:32:39 PM
Life is tough when you run into an A-20 thinking easy kill and Cobia is behind the stick.

Sort of when you casually roll into a set of bombers only to find 999000 is in the gunner's seat...
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 68ZooM on January 18, 2011, 04:34:40 PM
For those two not so much. They are just that good in them.

Oh i wasn't pointed any fingers at anyone in general, my apologies if anyone thought that   :salute
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: xbrit on January 18, 2011, 04:37:37 PM
Cobia the fights we had last week were some of the most fun I have had for a long time<S>
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 18, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
flew a few sorties in it recently and had some wing breakage occur where I had not experienced that under similar circumstances before.  Also tore the elevators off several times in what I can only describe as pretty standard work.

Just curious if anyone else noticed anything or if I was just taking another stroll down anomaly road.

You exceeded maximum G when pulling out of a high speed maneuver, that's why you lost the elevators.  At high speeds, gradually pull the stick back, don't exceed 3Gs on a pull out and you won't lose the elevators.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 18, 2011, 04:53:10 PM
i'd rather take a b25C with strafer option than an a20.  :airplane:

LOL!  The B-25C can't do what the A-20 can do in a dogfight.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 04:54:21 PM
LOL!  The B-25C can't do what the A-20 can do in a dogfight.

ack-ack
depends on the pilot. llike ive said ive shot down spits/109s and even a f4u once with the b25
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 18, 2011, 06:16:20 PM
depends on the pilot. llike ive said ive shot down spits/109s and even a f4u once with the b25

No, it doesn't depend on the pilot. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 18, 2011, 06:58:06 PM
No, it doesn't depend on the pilot. 

ack-ack

The B25C is about half and half Ack-Ack, I can make the old girl do some pretty wild maneuvers but in the end I'm never going to out fly a fighter that has half a brain. The B25C only has 2 attacks in a dogfight, ho and lucky top turret shot. Otherwise the plane is to slow to do anything.



And on the F3 shooting thing, I use F3 view help my SA while I'm flying a B25 as a dogfighter, however, whenever I think I may have a shot coming up I switch to F1 and use the crosshairs to fire. I don't use F3 to actually shoot because I never hit anything and in a B25 you get very few chances to take a shot so I always use a gunsight.

People that are good at shooting in F3...well...more power to them, but don't assume every bomber pilot uses F3 to shoot.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 18, 2011, 07:27:45 PM
The A-20 needs a face lift, still one fantastic bird.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: jolly22 on January 18, 2011, 07:30:37 PM
It's no different than in Air Warrior when plenty of guys would dogfight (especially 1 v 1's) in those A-26's we had.


WHAA?!?!    :furious :furious
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 07:46:49 PM
No, it doesn't depend on the pilot. 

ack-ack
awhile back (during the summer) me and a another player (i believe maybe killer? i cant remember) did a b25c vs a20 fight. the fight ended with me sawing his left wing off after he tried to reverse turn. so how do you analyze this? you cant say it was the b25 that won the fight, because your saying the b25 is inferior to the a20. and you cant say i was a better pilot than him, because you just said pilot doesnt make the difference.


so what do you want to be? go against your original answer or be a hypocrite? you pick.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Slash27 on January 18, 2011, 08:02:36 PM
Oh i wasn't pointed any fingers at anyone in general, my apologies if anyone thought that   :salute
None needed. The A-20 may indeed be what the F3 types are using now. Those two are just freaks in them. :aok
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Slash27 on January 18, 2011, 08:04:26 PM
awhile back (during the summer) me and a another player (i believe maybe killer? i cant remember) did a b25c vs a20 fight. the fight ended with me sawing his left wing off after he tried to reverse turn. so how do you analyze this? you cant say it was the b25 that won the fight, because your saying the b25 is inferior to the a20. and you cant say i was a better pilot than him, because you just said pilot doesnt make the difference.


so what do you want to be? go against your original answer or be a hypocrite? you pick.
You vs You in a fight the A-20 wins.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 18, 2011, 08:48:27 PM
awhile back (during the summer) me and a another player (i believe maybe killer? i cant remember) did a b25c vs a20 fight. the fight ended with me sawing his left wing off after he tried to reverse turn. so how do you analyze this? you cant say it was the b25 that won the fight, because your saying the b25 is inferior to the a20. and you cant say i was a better pilot than him, because you just said pilot doesnt make the difference.


so what do you want to be? go against your original answer or be a hypocrite? you pick.

How do I analyze this?  Easily, you fought a player that has absolutely no clue as what to do and probably someone flying a C-47 could have gotten a kill on him.  Not saying that you were the better pilot because from the myriad of comments you've made on the board, you're clearly not a good pilot.  You just happened to run into someone that is worse than you are.



ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 08:56:39 PM
How do I analyze this?  Easily, you fought a player that has absolutely no clue as what to do and probably someone flying a C-47 could have gotten a kill on him.  Not saying that you were the better pilot because from the myriad of comments you've made on the board, you're clearly not a good pilot.  You just happened to run into someone that is worse than you are.



ack-ack

ack-ack, allmost every time something pops up that goes against what your saying, you try to blow it off by simply saying "the other pilot has no skill" or "doesnt know what he's doing".and ive seen you take some serious flak after awhile from people who's gotten tired of your insulting crap. different people use different styles and different techniques. but in your mind if they dont use YOUR way of flying then they have "absolutely no clue as what to do". youve just insulted two pilots you've never incounted before, calling them both pretty much noobs. we could just settle this with you in an a20 and me in a b25, if you win that figh then you can call me a bad pilot, but until then your no better than i am.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: bj229r on January 18, 2011, 09:01:28 PM
How do I analyze this?  Easily, you fought a player that has absolutely no clue as what to do and probably someone flying a C-47 could have gotten a kill on him.  Not saying that you were the better pilot because from the myriad of comments you've made on the board, you're clearly not a good pilot.  You just happened to run into someone that is worse than you are.



ack-ack
we need Ack-Ack to be an ambassador SOMEWHERE!
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 18, 2011, 09:01:48 PM
ack-ack, allmost every time something pops up that goes against what your saying, you try to blow it off by simply saying "the other pilot has no skill" or "doesnt know what he's doing".and ive seen you take some serious flak after awhile from people who's gotten tired of your insulting crap. different people use different styles and different techniques. but in your mind if they dont use YOUR way of flying then they have "absolutely no clue as what to do". youve just insulted two pilots you've never incounted before, calling them both pretty much noobs. we could just settle this with you in an a20 and me in a b25, if you win that figh then you can call me a bad pilot, but until then your no better than i am.

I'm sorry of the truth rankles you but the facts just don't lie.  

If you wan to settle this in the DA, that is fine by me.  I'll admit that I'm going to laugh my bellybutton off each time I smack you down right after the merge.  

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 18, 2011, 09:06:19 PM
Please Record Ack Ack, I'm in Topeka Ks on business and need a good film to watch!
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 18, 2011, 09:07:53 PM
depends on the pilot. llike ive said ive shot down spits/109s and even a f4u once with the b25

Everyone gets lucky every now and then...


A20>B25C
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 18, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
What Tyrannis doesn't realize that unless the other guy is absolutely clueless, and by that I mean absolutely no knowledge of tactics or ACM nor what either plane in the engagement is capable of, or as Banshee7 pointed out, you just got lucky those times.  No matter how good of a pilot you think you may be, you are not going to be able to over come the fact that the B-25C is not maneuverable and cannot, repeat, cannot match the A-20 in maneuverability or speed.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 18, 2011, 09:22:38 PM
If I was actively playing again, I'd be glad to set up a B-25 vs. A-20 duel with Tyrannis.  It would probably be a waste of time, so, thankfully, I'm not flying.  Besides, who is Tyrannis? lol
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 18, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
I love my B25 and IMO it's the best fighter in the game......that being said A20>B25. ;)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 18, 2011, 09:23:22 PM
I love my B25 and IMO it's the best fighter in the game......that being said A20>B25. ;)

Glad you agree  :neener:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Belial on January 18, 2011, 09:36:01 PM
Tyrannis its a simple fact that the A20 is the superior plane....if you could clone yourself and fight 1v1 you would win every time in the a20 barring ho passes.


The A20 can turn like a spitfire the b25 Cannot its not possible period.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: lyric1 on January 18, 2011, 09:37:11 PM
has the A20 been nerfed as of late?
No.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/a20vp51.jpg)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Guppy35 on January 18, 2011, 09:39:11 PM
I take a 25C strafer when the hangers are down, but I don't care what you say, it's not an A20.  It shouldn't be. Not nearly as light.  Have I killed fighters in a 25C?  Sure.  But not because it was the better bird. They just did something wrong that let me shoot em.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: lyric1 on January 18, 2011, 09:40:37 PM
A Boston will hose a B-25c easy an A-20 :headscratch: very easy. :aok
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SHawk on January 18, 2011, 10:13:28 PM
Last night I'm in a CHog over 43 and I look down to see 2 A20's with evil intentions. I swear I put 50 20mm each into em and only make 1 smoke a little.
Then I see 3 more comin up under so I decide I probably should get the hell outta there. I look back and the smokin A20 is chasing me and he's closing.
1st thought is "Ok one of those is definately Cobia38  :uhoh   OH CRAP!
So I decide I best nose down and make tracks. I head back to 49 and find a few baby seals to club and to my surprise I suddenly get a
"you shot down BULLZ" and moments later "You shot down Cobia38" WOOT! :devil
Those crazy goofs fought it to the end and finally died in the furball instead of landing (which they could have done easily) like 90% of the wussies in here!
All I can say is <<S>> Cobia38 and BullZ :salute    If only AH had more pilots like you. :airplane:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 10:39:00 PM
I'm sorry of the truth rankles you but the facts just don't lie.  

If you wan to settle this in the DA, that is fine by me.  I'll admit that I'm going to laugh my bellybutton off each time I smack you down right after the merge.  

ack-ack
no ack-ack, the "truth" isent what "rankles" me, i understand everyone has their own opinion, and thats fine, but why insult me in your post? if you want to throw your facts around the board like some living wikipedia thats your own buisness, but you dont have a right to come in and start calling someone youve never ever flown against a bad pilot. ive never flown against you, or with you, but atleast i showed you enough respect where i didnt come running out the gate in this argument insulting how you fly, or how you play the game. you fail to realise not every one who plays this game plays it to be the best of the best, better than anyone else. some just play it to have fun. isent that what the game is about? but yet you took it upon yourself to take a cheap shot at me by calling me a bad pilot when you know nothing about how i fly. so sure, name the day and the time in the DA. and i'll be there. i may win, i may lose, ether way idc rly. i'll just be happy to wipe that smug look off your face when you find out not everybody in the game is as inferior as you try to make them out to be.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 10:40:26 PM
If I was actively playing again, I'd be glad to set up a B-25 vs. A-20 duel with Tyrannis.  It would probably be a waste of time, so, thankfully, I'm not flying.  Besides, who is Tyrannis? lol
who is Tyrannis? someone who most likely has played this game longer than you have, and is still playing it, unlike you.

dont be stupid and mistake time of signing up for the forums' as the time someone started playing the game.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 18, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
who is Tyrannis? someone who most likely has played this game longer than you have, and is still playing it, unlike you.

dont be stupid and mistake time of signing up for the forums' as the time someone started playing the game.

I didn't make the mistake in assuming your forum date was the same time you started playing the game.  BBS date doesn't matter.  I asked a simple question.  I have played for quite a few years, and I have flown with your squad, going off of your signature that S.O.A.R. is the squad you are in, but I have never met a Tyrannis.  The question still stands?  Who is Tyrannis?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 10:47:17 PM
I didn't make the mistake in assuming your forum date was the same time you started playing the game.  BBS date doesn't matter.  I asked a simple question.  I have played for quite a few years, and I have flown with your squad, going off of your signature that S.O.A.R. is the squad you are in, but I have never met a Tyrannis.  The question still stands?  Who is Tyrannis?

i just joined SOAR early summer. before that i was in a a squad called the blackcats. ive only been in 3 squads. the first being an 8-player squad way back in 2006 called vf-17 air warriors,
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 18, 2011, 10:48:05 PM
Did you have any other names before Tyrannis?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 10:50:18 PM
Did you have any other names before Tyrannis?
yes. my original one was just mgp. then XxnovaxX and Tyrannis
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 18, 2011, 10:50:56 PM
Still don't recall any of those names.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 10:53:24 PM
Still don't recall any of those names.
do you go in early-mid war arena or the DA alot? main places i go. i dont go in the LW unless its a slow day in the other arenas. the LW is a deathtrap full of guys with sticks/rudders/throttles etc when it comes to simple mouse flyers.  :bolt:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 18, 2011, 10:55:23 PM
I used to fly MW a lot, especially around 2007.  When I'm flying I peep in there occasionally to chat with some old friends.  The only time I go to the DA is when I use it for it's original purpose--to duel.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 18, 2011, 10:58:55 PM
I used to fly MW a lot, especially around 2007.  When I'm flying I peep in there occasionally to chat with some old friends.  The only time I go to the DA is when I use it for it's original purpose--to duel.
spend some time in the DA, you'll see me in there ether tearing up tempests in an f4u-1 or plowing buffs through the middle of a furball. :joystick:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 18, 2011, 11:14:28 PM
 :headscratch: :huh Ah well...uh crap, I'll be good.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 18, 2011, 11:17:53 PM
Come on, Nate.  You know you want to play. :)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Threeup on January 18, 2011, 11:54:37 PM
spend some time in the DA, you'll see me in there ether tearing up tempests in an f4u-1 or plowing buffs through the middle of a furball. :joystick:


And deeper and deeper the hole gets until there is no way of climbing out.

I have spent some time in the DA when you are there and strongly advise you alter that quote because, although it sounds pretty tough yours and the rest of the worlds perceptions of "tearing up" and "plowing (ploughing?)" may be a bit apart.

You're a very good gunner in a bomber after circling the lake at 20k taunting any(every)one to come and have a go at you.  In between that you say that all Spit pilots are dweebs - in my case you're correct. And the Corsair? DA stands for Duelling Arena, not Damn it I've been reversed time to run Arena.

Oh - and an A-20 will smack a 25 eleven times out of ten - I think you may get a chance to prove it.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: waystin2 on January 19, 2011, 06:44:20 AM
I can recall twice last night having to tell Cobia to check "one of everything that lifts from an airfield".  :lol
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: STEELE on January 19, 2011, 07:07:26 AM
Darnit I've been reversed, time to run Arena. LOL!
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 08:14:06 AM

And deeper and deeper the hole gets until there is no way of climbing out.

I have spent some time in the DA when you are there and strongly advise you alter that quote because, although it sounds pretty tough yours and the rest of the worlds perceptions of "tearing up" and "plowing (ploughing?)" may be a bit apart.

You're a very good gunner in a bomber after circling the lake at 20k taunting any(every)one to come and have a go at you.  In between that you say that all Spit pilots are dweebs - in my case you're correct. And the Corsair? DA stands for Duelling Arena, not Damn it I've been reversed time to run Arena.

Oh - and an A-20 will smack a 25 eleven times out of ten - I think you may get a chance to prove it.
hm, well this doesnt look like im "being reversed" and then "running".... :headscratch:
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-14.png)


oh hey look three, see this spit16? this is YOU. but didnt you just say spits were for dweebs? congrats on labeling yourself a dweeb. funny thing is,you were in a spit16, and you let an f4u-1 out-turn you. then you tryed to reverse turn halfway through the vertical, and this is the result. what a hypocrite  :rolleyes:
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-15.png)


and just incase you dont believe the above picture is you...
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-16.png)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Mirage on January 19, 2011, 08:23:33 AM
Is that the Haywood jablowme? that I see in that screenshot?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SHawk on January 19, 2011, 09:48:10 AM
hm, well this doesnt look like im "being reversed" and then "running".... :headscratch:
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-14.png)


oh hey look three, see this spit16? this is YOU. but didnt you just say spits were for dweebs? congrats on labeling yourself a dweeb. funny thing is,you were in a spit16, and you let an f4u-1 out-turn you. then you tryed to reverse turn halfway through the vertical, and this is the result. what a hypocrite  :rolleyes:
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-15.png)


and just incase you dont believe the above picture is you...
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-16.png)


LMAO Tyrannis, you should really get better Lies, or a different screenshot. Haywood is an A8 not a spit16 :lol :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 09:51:58 AM
LMAO Tyrannis, you should really get better Lies, or a different screenshot. Haywood is an A8 not a spit16 :lol :rolleyes:

or maybe you should get better eyes,or learn how to read. that wasent directed at haywood at all, it was directed at threeup. hence the reason i quoted threeup in that posting?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SHawk on January 19, 2011, 10:05:53 AM
or maybe you should get better eyes,or learn how to read. that wasent directed at haywood at all, it was directed at threeup. hence the reason i quoted threeup in that posting?

Ok, then which one is him?I don't even see a spit16 in the list! Geez dude your losin it!
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 10:23:55 AM
Ok, then which one is him?I don't even see a spit16 in the list! Geez dude your losin it!
the spit im shooting at is threeup,in the second pic. i killed him. i posted that third pic to show i had gotten the kill on him, look down at the bottom at the chat box. youll see the "you have killed threeup" then see that spinning plane to my right? thats his empty spit16. he ejected after i shot his wing in half.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 10:27:35 AM
Ok, then which one is him?I don't even see a spit16 in the list! Geez dude your losin it!
here you go. hes the bish spit16
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-22.png)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: waystin2 on January 19, 2011, 10:49:29 AM
Uh-oh this has turned into a...
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/GeekFight.jpg)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: ROX on January 19, 2011, 02:22:35 PM
This thread has definitely taken quite the INteresting turn....


....INto a purse fight.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 19, 2011, 03:45:20 PM
hm, well this doesnt look like im "being reversed" and then "running".... :headscratch:
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-14.png)


oh hey look three, see this spit16? this is YOU. but didnt you just say spits were for dweebs? congrats on labeling yourself a dweeb. funny thing is,you were in a spit16, and you let an f4u-1 out-turn you. then you tryed to reverse turn halfway through the vertical, and this is the result. what a hypocrite  :rolleyes:
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-15.png)
and just incase you dont believe the above picture is you...
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Untitled-16.png)

Why don't you post the film so we can see how it all really played out?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 68ZooM on January 19, 2011, 04:08:06 PM
This thread has definitely taken quite the INteresting turn....


....INto a purse fight.

More like this i'm thinking

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/Animated%20clips/3092a6e.gif)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: DrBone1 on January 19, 2011, 04:10:34 PM
is that fight in the DA lake? nothing but baby seals in that area. why did you bring this up lol  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SHawk on January 19, 2011, 05:13:19 PM
Why don't you post the film so we can see how it all really played out?

No way he'll do that! :rofl
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 05:21:59 PM
Why don't you post the film so we can see how it all really played out?
tell me how and i'll gladly do it. ive never uploaded an AH video to anything before.


it'll play out like this: he was on quartz six, i he broke off when he saw me closing and went for a HO shot but missed, we got into a turn fight, he tried to go vertical. then halfway through that vertical he tries to reverse back into a turnfight and thats when i nailed him.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Threeup on January 19, 2011, 06:45:51 PM
Ship’s Navigator to Capt. Tyrannis – let’s get this thread back on course!

As I recall

You;
1)   Said the B-25 would out fight an A-20 and offered a 1v1 to prove it. Against Ack-Ack.
2)   Put a CV of sorts out there that portrayed you as a Corsair “John Wayne” in the DA.

I;
1)   Noted that with the limited experience I have both with the 2 planes concerned and with limited fights against Ack-Ack in a 2 engine plane your chances were pretty dim.
2)   Put forward my thoughts that your opinion of yourself in the DA wasn’t what I had seen.

Now if you have a film where you have bettered me in a Corsair v Spit, please PM with it so I can put it into context. If you have belted me I’ll admit it and won’t send you the accounts for any counselling I may need. Don’t post it – it’s tacky and people have got better things to do than to view it although I’ll post and PM you if I’m wrong. Happy to be proven wrong – I won’t need to sleep with the light on.

And don’t come back to me with a 1v1 challenge either. I have one rule in 1v1 – no rules. You take whatever plane, load out or even skin from one base and I’ll do the same from another. The guy that doesn’t get shot down or auger wins that encounter – that encounter.

That being said, back to the B-25’s mastery of the A-20. I don’t know how many times i have grossly underestimated that plane usually to my doom or heavy damage,
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: phatzo on January 19, 2011, 07:04:10 PM
I prefer 3ups 1 v 1 rules and as a loyal squadmate would like to see this duel (nudges 3up with a stick, saying "go on mate") I am sure he will spank the piss out of you before AKAK has his shot. Go ahead make my day.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: jamdive on January 19, 2011, 07:05:27 PM
Nerfed?  I had no idea it was a supper plane.  Cobia is the one needing nerfing lol

It's more of a breakfast blend.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 07:07:34 PM
Ship’s Navigator to Capt. Tyrannis – let’s get this thread back on course!

As I recall

You;
1)   Said the B-25 would out fight an A-20 and offered a 1v1 to prove it. Against Ack-Ack.
2)   Put a CV of sorts out there that portrayed you as a Corsair “John Wayne” in the DA.

I;
1)   Noted that with the limited experience I have both with the 2 planes concerned and with limited fights against Ack-Ack in a 2 engine plane your chances were pretty dim.
2)   Put forward my thoughts that your opinion of yourself in the DA wasn’t what I had seen.

Now if you have a film where you have bettered me in a Corsair v Spit, please PM with it so I can put it into context. If you have belted me I’ll admit it and won’t send you the accounts for any counselling I may need. Don’t post it – it’s tacky and people have got better things to do than to view it although I’ll post and PM you if I’m wrong. Happy to be proven wrong – I won’t need to sleep with the light on.

And don’t come back to me with a 1v1 challenge either. I have one rule in 1v1 – no rules. You take whatever plane, load out or even skin from one base and I’ll do the same from another. The guy that doesn’t get shot down or auger wins that encounter – that encounter.

That being said, back to the B-25’s mastery of the A-20. I don’t know how many times i have grossly underestimated that plane usually to my doom or heavy damage,

uh, we did 1v1, and you lost, proven by the pictures ive presented. if you want the film just tell me how to upload it to use on the forums, and i will happily be glad too.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Threeup on January 19, 2011, 07:20:11 PM
I prefer 3ups 1 v 1 rules and as a loyal squadmate would like to see this duel (nudges 3up with a stick, saying "go on mate") I am sure he will spank the piss out of you before AKAK has his shot. Go ahead make my day.

No Phatz – thanks for the vote of confidence but I’m not challenging Ack-Ack, I’m willing to accept a challenge from Tyrannis though.

I’ve come up against Ack-Ack and my reaction half way through the encounter was like that cartoon from the 60’s where the dog says “Which way did he go George? Which way did he go? – Just Googled that – still makes me laugh!

And that’s not an ankle hump – just an honest appraisal – and this isn’t about me anyway – it’s about the Super Mitchell in the hands of Tyrranis

My expectations, hopefully, will never exceed my ability.

As for the rest, Tyrrannis has come out swinging and has to back it up – twice it seems.

And “Corsair Duke” a 1v1 means a 1v1 not as a part of a furball. It’s all about perspective and context. PM me on date and time, let this one rest for a minute and get back to telling us all about how the B-25 belts the A-20.

Ball back over the net mate!


Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 07:25:10 PM
No Phatz – thanks for the vote of confidence but I’m not challenging Ack-Ack, I’m willing to accept a challenge from Tyrannis though.

I’ve come up against Ack-Ack and my reaction half way through the encounter was like that cartoon from the 60’s where the dog says “Which way did he go George? Which way did he go? – Just Googled that – still makes me laugh!

And that’s not an ankle hump – just an honest appraisal – and this isn’t about me anyway – it’s about the Super Mitchell in the hands of Tyrranis

My expectations, hopefully, will never exceed my ability.

As for the rest, Tyrrannis has come out swinging and has to back it up – twice it seems.

Ball back over the net mate!

actually no, I wasent the one who "came out swinging" first. ack-ack did by calling me a bad pilot when he's never flown against me, or with me. i had enough respect for him before to not insult his piloting skills even tho i'd never flown with him, but not anymore.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Threeup on January 19, 2011, 07:36:14 PM
You’re backing away a bit Tiger – we have an expression in this strange little country which goes something like;


“piss in the pot or move on and let someone else have a go” – something to do with lack of indoor plumbing in the old days. I’m sure you have some similar stuff along the lines of “put up or shut up”.

Don’t get personal – Date and Time PM – Date and Time.

BBS has an abundance of instruction as to how to upload film or, in this case, attach it to a PM to yours truly.

Now for the love of all that makes sense tell us about the Super Mitchell vs the A-20

Title: Re: A20s
Post by: phatzo on January 19, 2011, 07:57:39 PM
I meant Ack v Tyrannis.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Threeup on January 19, 2011, 08:11:53 PM
I meant Ack v Tyrannis.

Sorry Legend - you know how slow we are in the west.

Dry - but slow.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 08:27:29 PM
You’re backing away a bit Tiger – we have an expression in this strange little country which goes something like;


“piss in the pot or move on and let someone else have a go” – something to do with lack of indoor plumbing in the old days. I’m sure you have some similar stuff along the lines of “put up or shut up”.

Don’t get personal – Date and Time PM – Date and Time.

BBS has an abundance of instruction as to how to upload film or, in this case, attach it to a PM to yours truly.

Now for the love of all that makes sense tell us about the Super Mitchell vs the A-20


i havent backed down from his 1v1, im just waiting for him to name a time/date.

and ive had much success in a b25c, including shooting down a20s in the LW and even bostons in the EW. i believe its the better plane. and i'll prove it to the best of my ability.





just like my f4u-1 proved it was better against your little spit16  :airplane:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 19, 2011, 08:33:52 PM
and ive had much success in a b25c, including shooting down a20s in the LW

When were these kills made in LW arena?  So far you have no kills against an A-20 in a B-25C in the LW arena...that's just dating back to tour 127
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 08:36:35 PM
When were these kills made in LW arena?  So far you have no kills against an A-20 in a B-25C in the LW arena...that's just dating back to tour 127
i should  :headscratch: i rarely am able to actually safely LAND my b25 tho, usually when a horde sees a lone b25 it becomes a "mine mine!" fest.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 19, 2011, 08:37:44 PM
Doesn't matter whether you land the kills or not; the kill is still recorded.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Mirage on January 19, 2011, 08:39:48 PM
i should  :headscratch: i rarely am able to actually safely LAND my b25 tho, usually when a horde sees a lone b25 it becomes a "mine mine!" fest.

its a mine mine mine fest because no lone B25 is capable of putting up a fight  :lol
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 19, 2011, 08:41:34 PM
You have been killed by an A-20 while flying your B-25C (I think that was this tour, too).  But that doesn't count, the A-20 was cobia...
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: StokesAk on January 19, 2011, 08:46:50 PM
First thread I have actually taken my time to read completely, and it was far from a waste of time!  :rofl































































































B25C > A20G :noid
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 19, 2011, 08:48:13 PM
First thread I have actually taken my time to read completely, and it was far from a waste of time!  :rofl

B25C > A20G :noid


Children are supposed to be seen, not heard.   :devil
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: gpwurzel on January 19, 2011, 08:48:45 PM
Oi, 3up, stop flapping yer gums and come get me in the DA (not flown for ages, and need some fights or something).

A20 will slap the paint off the b25 before putting it to rest btw.

Wurzel
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Big Rat on January 19, 2011, 08:49:48 PM
Strange how I have requests to train people to dogfight with an A20, but never a B25 :headscratch:

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Threeup on January 19, 2011, 08:50:12 PM
Doesn't matter whether you land the kills or not; the kill is still recorded.

And as you shuffle around this one I’ll wait for my PM and film shall I?

I’ll be patient on both counts.

Never let logic and proof get in the way of a good discussion.

Now back to the Super Dooper Mitchell
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 08:51:06 PM

its a mine mine mine fest because no lone B25 is capable of putting up a fight  :lol
beefcake would disagree with you on that.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 19, 2011, 08:54:42 PM
i havent backed down from his 1v1, im just waiting for him to name a time/date.

and ive had much success in a b25c, including shooting down a20s in the LW and even bostons in the EW. i believe its the better plane. and i'll prove it to the best of my ability.





just like my f4u-1 proved it was better against your little spit16  :airplane:

Saturday, 6pm PST.  You in a B-25C and me in an A-20G.  We both take off opposite fields from one of the low altitude fields in the DA with a 6k initial merge alt, no firing on first merge.  5 duels but since I do have a slight amount of pity for you, I will invoke the "Gentleman's Rule" after my "hat trick" and stop it at 3 fights so you won't have to suffer the indignity of losing the last two fights.  Deal?

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Threeup on January 19, 2011, 08:55:37 PM
Oi, 3up, stop flapping yer gums and come get me in the DA (not flown for ages, and need some fights or something).

A20 will slap the paint off the b25 before putting it to rest btw.

Wurzel

Shoot Yea!

Sending PM after this.

Only promise I won't have to deal with the Combine Harvester.

Cheers
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 08:58:14 PM
Saturday, 6pm PST.  You in a B-25C and me in an A-20G.  We both take off opposite fields from one of the low altitude fields in the DA with a 6k initial merge alt, no firing on first merge.  5 duels but since I do have a slight amount of pity for you, I will invoke the "Gentleman's Rule" after my "hat trick" and stop it at 3 fights so you won't have to suffer the indignity of losing the last two fights.  Deal?

ack-ack
cant saturday, got buff training. make it sunday and get rid of your stupid ego and you got yourself a fight.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: cobia38 on January 19, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
 
 can i play too   :x
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 19, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
and ive had much success in a b25c, including shooting down a20s in the LW and even bostons in the EW. i believe its the better plane. and i'll prove it to the best of my ability.

You have a total of 10 kills for 47 deaths in the B-25C, not a very good record for someone that claims the Mitchell is their "plane".  

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 19, 2011, 09:10:39 PM
cant saturday, got buff training. make it sunday and get rid of your stupid ego and you got yourself a fight.

Okay, then we will postpone the beating until Sunday.  Oh, one last thing...I will be laughing at you each time you get shot down, I just wanted you to be aware of that.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 19, 2011, 09:11:31 PM

 can i play too   :x

Hey!  Go find your own seal pup to cave in their head, this pup is mine!

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Mirage on January 19, 2011, 09:22:39 PM
beefcake would disagree with you on that.
I will take a B-25 seriously when I actually see one dogfight, although I am sure just as in any plane there are rare exceptions of skillful B 25 pilots

good luck fighting ack ack, even though your fate has been sealed  :angel:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: phatzo on January 19, 2011, 09:27:21 PM
Now if they had the B-25J with rockets, I would definately turn up to watch.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 09:27:59 PM
Okay, then we will postpone the beating until Sunday.  Oh, one last thing...I will be laughing at you each time you get shot down, I just wanted you to be aware of that.

ack-ack

nope ack-ack, lose the egotistic attitude, than ask me. until then no deal.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Mirage on January 19, 2011, 09:29:25 PM
 :huh I thoguht you challenged him to a 1v1 first
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 19, 2011, 09:30:23 PM
I think Tyrannis has become scared...

(http://www.imageenvision.com/sm/0033-0810-1111-0642_clip_art_graphic_of_a_green_guy_character_using_a_shovel_to_dig_for_oil_or_digging_a_hole_to_plant_a_seed.jpg)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Threeup on January 19, 2011, 09:47:38 PM
nope ack-ack, lose the egotistic attitude, than ask me. until then no deal.


Here we go!

You made the challenge! Is it like Miss Universe – he has to get points for personality before you let him into the final selection?

You must drive your car very fast – backwards!!!
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Banshee7 on January 19, 2011, 09:50:52 PM

Here we go!

BUD LIGHT!!!
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Belial on January 19, 2011, 09:56:45 PM
Bahahahahaha :huh
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 19, 2011, 10:02:02 PM
nope ack-ack, lose the egotistic attitude, than ask me. until then no deal.

Don't trip while backpedaling, would hate to see you end up falling on your arse.

we could just settle this with you in an a20 and me in a b25, if you win that figh then you can call me a bad pilot, but until then your no better than i am.


ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 19, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
hehe...still holding my tongue.  Must be good...fight the urge.


Ack-Ack, maybe you should give him a chance.  Perhaps you should use a Boston.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: AWwrgwy on January 19, 2011, 10:46:17 PM
Saturday, 6pm PST.  You in a B-25C and me in an A-20G.  We both take off opposite fields from one of the low altitude fields in the DA with a 6k initial merge alt, no firing on first merge.  5 duels but since I do have a slight amount of pity for you, I will invoke the "Gentleman's Rule" after my "hat trick" and stop it at 3 fights so you won't have to suffer the indignity of losing the last two fights.  Deal?

ack-ack

Just FYI but, no "BUFFS" enabled at any fields but the two bomber fields IIRC.


Get someone to set up an AvA for you's.



wrongway
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 19, 2011, 10:56:41 PM
Don't trip while backpedaling, would hate to see you end up falling on your arse.


ack-ack
yes i issued the challenge and i gave you the right to choose what day and time for that challenge. BUT until you loose the ego when telling me the time and day you can forget it. its like insulting someone and then asking them to do something for you.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 19, 2011, 11:10:20 PM
You know I'd like to fly against Ack-Ack and Cobia in a B25 vs A20 duel or team combat. Granted I already know I'm going to have my butt handed to me but it'd still be a blast and a good laugh. I could get some good screenshots for the website.  :D

Oh and Ack-Ack I do believe I've already shot you down while flying a B25. I got this from some old films I was reviewing.

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/AckackAssist.png)

 :D


(And yes I know that's not your in game name.)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: cobia38 on January 19, 2011, 11:20:53 PM
Hey!  Go find your own seal pup to cave in their head, this pup is mine!

ack-ack

 ok..... but maybe i,ll go and  watch, it will be fun to see you park your B-38 and fly an F-20  :neener:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SIK1 on January 19, 2011, 11:35:03 PM
yes i issued the challenge and i gave you the right to choose what day and time for that challenge. BUT until you loose the ego when telling me the time and day you can forget it. its like insulting someone and then asking them to do something for you.

Now this is getting good.

Time for some popcorn.  :cheers:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 20, 2011, 12:37:31 AM
You know I'd like to fly against Ack-Ack and Cobia in a B25 vs A20 duel or team combat. Granted I already know I'm going to have my butt handed to me but it'd still be a blast and a good laugh. I could get some good screenshots for the website.  :D

Oh and Ack-Ack I do believe I've already shot you down while flying a B25. I got this from some old films I was reviewing.

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/AckackAssist.png)

 :D


(And yes I know that's not your in game name.)

There are three of problems with that screenshot.  1) I have never flown the Spitfire Mk IX in any of the main arenas, only in the DA and when it was around, the H2H arenas 2) the Spitfire Mk IX in the screenshot is Bishop, the time the 479th flew on the Bishop side was way before the B-25H was introduced into the game and 3) ack-ack is the name I use on the forums only, AKAK has been my in game handle since my AW days.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 20, 2011, 12:39:59 AM
yes i issued the challenge and i gave you the right to choose what day and time for that challenge. BUT until you loose the ego when telling me the time and day you can forget it. its like insulting someone and then asking them to do something for you.

I figured ya for a eunich that would find any excuse they could to back out of a duel challenge they brought forth. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: mechanic on January 20, 2011, 12:42:15 AM
Less than a minute long clip, this was a pretty cool thing to do with A20 pilot/gunner combo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxhN3qxB130

yeah baby
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 20, 2011, 12:44:17 AM
I figured ya for a eunich that would find any excuse they could to back out of a duel challenge they brought forth.  

ack-ack
im not backing out, all im saying is ask in a more respectful tone and then i'll happily accept.

your the stuck-up cartoon pilot who cant put his own bloated ego aside to simply say "sunday, 6pm. deal?" and nothing else.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 20, 2011, 01:32:42 AM
ok..... but maybe i,ll go and  watch, it will be fun to see you park your B-38 and fly an F-20  :neener:

Cobia how about you and I go at it while Ack-Ack and Tyrannis battle it out on the forums?  :D


Maybe we can turn this into a massive battle of 25s vs 20s in an epic battle to re-decide which plane is better?



(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/TheB25IsBetterFinal.png)


Oh yeah I'm going to have fun with this.  :D

Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 20, 2011, 01:35:37 AM
There are three of problems with that screenshot.  1) I have never flown the Spitfire Mk IX in any of the main arenas, only in the DA and when it was around, the H2H arenas 2) the Spitfire Mk IX in the screenshot is Bishop, the time the 479th flew on the Bishop side was way before the B-25H was introduced into the game and 3) ack-ack is the name I use on the forums only, AKAK has been my in game handle since my AW days.

ack-ack

Pssst....Ack-Ack read the tiny text. I know it's not you as the time this picture was taken you were flying nearby on the good side. (Knits)  ;) It was a joke as I found it funny that I shot down "ackack" in a B25 while I was looking for B25 footage for this very thread.  :)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 20, 2011, 01:47:31 AM
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/B25vsA20Final2.png)

Maybe we can get Kermit to do a movie about this.

Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Mirage on January 20, 2011, 02:10:26 AM
see the A20 is already Saddling up on the B-25   :rofl
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: oTRALFZo on January 20, 2011, 03:54:55 AM
You know I'd like to fly against Ack-Ack and Cobia in a B25 vs A20 duel or team combat. Granted I already know I'm going to have my butt handed to me but it'd still be a blast and a good laugh. I could get some good screenshots for the website.  :D

Oh and Ack-Ack I do believe I've already shot you down while flying a B25. I got this from some old films I was reviewing.

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/AckackAssist.png)

 :D


(And yes I know that's not your in game name.)

Thats ackack from the Alchemists. As there is a "Scotch" in the same squad.

NOWHERE near the real deal. Why those two are still with the same handle is beyond me.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 20, 2011, 04:12:38 AM
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/B25vsA20Final2.png)

Maybe we can get Kermit to do a movie about this.



It would need to have the Benny Hill theme song as the sound track.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 20, 2011, 04:26:29 AM
Thats ackack from the Alchemists. As there is a "Scotch" in the same squad.

NOWHERE near the real deal. Why those two are still with the same handle is beyond me.


*facepalm* I know I know, this was a joke.

Trust me I see the real AKAK in the arena all the time when I fly and I know he wouldn't be caught dead in a Spit, let alone flying Bish. I should have been more clear with my hard to read and cryptic disclaimer.


On a side note I would still like to take up AKAK and/or Cobia's offer of a duel. Maybe I can get 999000 to gun for me while I try to out fly ( :rofl ) you guys.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 20, 2011, 06:47:39 AM
im not backing out, all im saying is ask in a more respectful tone and then i'll happily accept.

your the stuck-up cartoon pilot who cant put his own bloated ego aside to simply say "sunday, 6pm. deal?" and nothing else.

(http://idiotflashback.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/mr-bill.jpg)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Yossarian on January 20, 2011, 07:18:40 AM
I can only say one thing for certain about someone who thinks the B-25's a better dogfighter than the A-20: they're wrong.

The B-25 is an absolutely horrific dogfighter, which will probably lose 7 out of 10 fights it gets into.  However, it's those remaining 3 which make it worth flying.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SlapShot on January 20, 2011, 08:03:40 AM
it'll play out like this: he was on quartz six, i he broke off when he saw me closing and went for a HO shot but missed, we got into a turn fight, he tried to go vertical. then halfway through that vertical he tries to reverse back into a turnfight and thats when i nailed him.

uh, we did 1v1, and you lost, proven by the pictures ive presented. if you want the film just tell me how to upload it to use on the forums, and i will happily be glad too.  :rolleyes:

What you described hardly constitutes a true 1 v 1 fight. It sounds more like he tried to ward off your impending pick and it didn't work out for him because you held all the cards.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 20, 2011, 09:09:53 AM
I can only say one thing for certain about someone who thinks the B-25's a better dogfighter than the A-20: they're wrong.

The B-25 is an absolutely horrific dogfighter, which will probably lose 7 out of 10 fights it gets into.  However, it's those remaining 3 which make it worth flying.


Truth ^^^

One of the most enjoyable things for me to do in AH is to bring a wounded B25 home after flying it into a furball.

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/VsF4U4.png)

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/Landing.png)



A big bonus is when I actually get to land kills.  :aok

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/5KillLandingComplete.png)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: TOMCAT21 on January 20, 2011, 09:16:19 AM

 can i play too   :x


Let Cobia take the A-20 against the best 25 stick and see what happens. :salute

Cobia doesn't play with you, he TOYS with you !
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Delirium on January 20, 2011, 09:18:36 AM
The A20 holds all the advantages except defensive firepower, this fight would be vastly one sided.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Hawk55 on January 20, 2011, 09:33:43 AM
or maybe you should get better eyes,or learn how to read. that wasent directed at haywood at all, it was directed at threeup. hence the reason i quoted threeup in that posting?

This guy's become the #1 resident AH...and that don't stand for Aces High either!
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 20, 2011, 09:38:55 AM
The A20 holds all the advantages except defensive firepower, this fight would be vastly one sided.

Yep, that B25 is going to rip the A20 a new one.

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/B38/KillingDel4WoopsLostAWing.png)

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/B38/DelSalute.png)
 
 :rofl

Sorry Del, you're my buddy but I had to do it man.  :D  :salute


No hard feelings? Right? I mean you'll still keep me safe from those 190s in BOG...right? :uhoh



Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SIK1 on January 20, 2011, 10:29:16 AM
im not backing out, all im saying is ask in a more respectful tone and then i'll happily accept.

your the stuck-up cartoon pilot who cant put his own bloated ego aside to simply say "sunday, 6pm. deal?" and nothing else.

 :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

Too funny.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Delirium on January 20, 2011, 10:34:33 AM
No hard feelings? Right? I mean you'll still keep me safe from those 190s in BOG...right? :uhoh

No, I'm going to let you die, like I did in the clusterf*** called the Philippine scenario. Unfortunately, I already have a price on my head and the scenario hasn't even started yet! So, you are pretty much screwed!  :devil
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: TOMCAT21 on January 20, 2011, 01:51:04 PM
ouch !
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 20, 2011, 02:02:17 PM
This guy's become the #1 resident AH...and that don't stand for Aces High either!

w00t!  I got another ankle humper to add to my collection!

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SlapShot on January 20, 2011, 02:57:24 PM
w00t!  I got another ankle humper to add to my collection!

ack-ack

Ummm ... I believe that he was referring to Tyrannis when he made that comment/post.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Big Rat on January 20, 2011, 06:27:55 PM
I think we need to get the Red Storm A20 group back together, and create supreme Havoc to all B25's that oppose us :lol

 :salute
BigRat

PS I'm the one who put the price on Delirium's head :neener:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SIK1 on January 20, 2011, 06:34:08 PM
I think we need to get the Red Storm A20 group back together, and create supreme Havoc to all B25's that oppose us :lol

 :salute
BigRat

PS I'm the one who put the price on Delirium's head :neener:

I'm in  :cheers:
That's still the most fun I've had in a scenario yet.  :aok
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Big Rat on January 20, 2011, 06:39:09 PM
I'm in  :cheers:
That's still the most fun I've had in a scenario yet.  :aok

Probably the best group of A20 sticks ever cobbled together in one place, was great killing K4's with A20's, I will always remember that scenario :aok

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 20, 2011, 06:53:53 PM
I think we need to get the Red Storm A20 group back together, and create supreme Havoc to all B25's that oppose us :lol

 :salute
BigRat

PS I'm the one who put the price on Delirium's head :neener:

Hey Strip, should we call the boys and get the old 13 GvBAP & 251 GvAP Regiment's ready to face the coming "havoc"?  :D

This is shaping up to be a great event! Now we need to set a time.


(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/EpicBattle2.png)



Title: Re: A20s
Post by: cactuskooler on January 21, 2011, 01:51:24 AM
Hey Strip, should we call the boys and get the old 13 GvBAP & 251 GvAP Regiment's ready to face the coming "havoc"?  :D

Still a member of 13 GvBAP in the SEA1. :airplane:

(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/cactuskooler/formation.jpg)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Hawk55 on January 21, 2011, 07:42:17 AM
Ummm ... I believe that he was referring to Tyrannis when he made that comment/post.

Yes, I was referring to the "T" guy, not you Ack.  Thanks Slap. 
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Shuffler on January 21, 2011, 12:43:03 PM
I'll take an A-20 for this :D
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Big Rat on January 21, 2011, 05:47:21 PM
A20 Vs B25 showdown :rock 

Each plane will be allowed one pilot and one gunner.  this will help equalize the fight a bit, with the B25's better defensive armament.  Plus more people, means more fun :D  I think we need a sign up sheet, 10v10 sound good, which can actually be 20v20 if everyone has a gunner.

 :salute
BigRat

Title: Re: A20s
Post by: ROX on January 21, 2011, 06:06:27 PM
nope ack-ack, lose the egotistic attitude.....


 :rofl    :rofl    :rofl    :rofl    :rofl



Hey, while your at it Tyrannis, I'd like 50 dates with Brooke Shields.

My daughter wants her own castle like Neuschwanstein.

My granddaughter wants to be Princess of Wales.

And the Cubs want the World Series.


Best of luck with any of those.....especially your quote.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: RTHolmes on January 21, 2011, 06:16:22 PM
which way to the A-20 flight line? ;)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: cobia38 on January 21, 2011, 08:44:34 PM
A20 Vs B25 showdown :rock 

Each plane will be allowed one pilot and one gunner.  this will help equalize the fight a bit, with the B25's better defensive armament.  Plus more people, means more fun :D  I think we need a sign up sheet, 10v10 sound good, which can actually be 20v20 if everyone has a gunner.

 :salute
BigRat



  10  A20 vs 20 B25   gunners in a havoc will be worthless
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 21, 2011, 08:48:33 PM
I take it Nemisis...err I mean Tyrannis isn't going to show up at 6pm PST on Sunday?  I guess he isn't so sure as he was about the B-25's dogfighting prowess or he just doesn't want to get his  :ahand to him  :devil


ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 21, 2011, 08:49:24 PM
I take it Nemisis...err I mean Tyrannis isn't going to show up at 6pm PST on Sunday?  I guess he isn't so sure as he was about the B-25's dogfighting prowess or he just doesn't want to get his  :ahand to him  :devil


ack-ack
still waiting on you to lose that ego-tistic attitude old man  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 21, 2011, 09:02:38 PM
still waiting on you to lose that ego-tistic attitude old man  :rolleyes:

Keep making excuses as to why you're afraid to find out that you're wrong about the B-25 but then, you're in the SOARS so I'm sure you have a rather hefty book of excuses.


ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 21, 2011, 09:38:41 PM
Lol, Tryrannis if you as good as you say you are, then head to the DA with Ack-Ack and knock the ego out of him.



Ack Ack, please film it (although I doubt he'll show).  I have a flight to Buffalo at that time.   :cheers:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 21, 2011, 09:40:40 PM
Keep making excuses as to why you're afraid to find out that you're wrong about the B-25 but then, you're in the SOARS so I'm sure you have a rather hefty book of excuses.


ack-ack
ack-ack, are you blind? im not making an excuse, ive clearly said TWICE to tell me the time without your ego-tistic attitude, and i'll happily show up. its YOU thats so stuck up with himself that he cant stop throwing shallow insuts at a person long enough to just say something in a normal since.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 21, 2011, 09:47:26 PM
Someone needs a hug...or a nap.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 21, 2011, 10:22:07 PM
Someone needs a hug...or a nap.
oh, im not mad. im just  :rofl because he's so stuck up with himself he cant put his ego aside for one second to simply type "sunday, 6pm, da?"
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SIK1 on January 21, 2011, 10:52:58 PM
ack-ack, are you blind? im not making an excuse, ive clearly said TWICE to tell me the time without your ego-tistic attitude, and i'll happily show up. its YOU thats so stuck up with himself that he cant stop throwing shallow insuts at a person long enough to just say something in a normal since.

 :rofl   :rolleyes:

Might want to grow a pair there boy.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Big Rat on January 21, 2011, 11:35:12 PM
  10  A20 vs 20 B25   gunners in a havoc will be worthless

They won't be worthless, it will be amusing making them puke.  Plus they can shoot at the B25 pieces as they fall off, or the B25 pilots in chutes :lol

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: BaldEagl on January 21, 2011, 11:40:49 PM
Tyrannis walks into a bar.  He sees AckAck and says "soo buddy, let's step outside"

AckAck says "OK, I'll go slap you around like the little girl's rag doll you are"

Tyrannis says "Well, I'm not going until you're nice to me"

 :rofl

Only on the Internet.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 22, 2011, 12:14:28 AM
oh, im not mad. im just  :rofl because he's so stuck up with himself he cant put his ego aside for one second to simply type "sunday, 6pm, da?"

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/jax328/MV5BMTc0NDg1MDc0MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTY.jpg)
Don't think Tyrannis will understand the reference  :rofl


ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 22, 2011, 11:15:44 AM
So Ack-Ack will you be in the DA at 6PM PST on Sunday? If so I'll try and show up and give it a go with you. It'll be fun, maybe we can get a few more to join in and have a good old furball....in bombers.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 68ZooM on January 22, 2011, 11:43:35 AM
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/jax328/MV5BMTc0NDg1MDc0MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTY.jpg)
Don't think Tyrannis will understand the reference  :rofl


ack-ack

Flashback.... HAHAHAHAHA  oh thanks Ack-Ack   :rofl   :rofl
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: waystin2 on January 22, 2011, 11:49:04 AM
Flashback.... HAHAHAHAHA  oh thanks Ack-Ack   :rofl   :rofl

Jiminy, I thought I was old at 41.  You guys are dating yourself here... :rofl
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: mechanic on January 22, 2011, 12:00:00 PM
ack-ack, are you blind? im not making an excuse, ive clearly said TWICE to tell me the time without your ego-tistic attitude, and i'll happily show up. its YOU thats so stuck up with himself that he cant stop throwing shallow insuts at a person long enough to just say something in a normal since.



Dude, you're going to the DA to determine the result of a statement you made about the b25. His attitude makes no difference and the longer you fight here about Ack's attitude the worse off youre going to look. If you want advice, go to the DA, get your backside tanned, come back here and post the results humbly. This will increase everyone's respect for you, including Ack-Ack's. Then we can all move on to another thread to beat each other up.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 22, 2011, 12:02:30 PM


Dude, you're going to the DA to determine the result of a statement you made about the b25. His attitude makes no difference and the longer you fight here about Ack's attitude the worse off youre going to look. If you want advice, go to the DA, get your backside tanned, come back here and post the results humbly. This will increase everyone's respect for you, including Ack-Ack's. Then we can all move on to another thread to beat each other up.
i dont pay $14.95 a month to make new internet friends on a game board. i pay it to shoot cartoon planes out of the sky.
dont like me? oh well.  i dont care  :lol your just words typed on a screen, internet popularity is not what i strive for.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: mechanic on January 22, 2011, 12:04:05 PM
what do you strive for?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 68ZooM on January 22, 2011, 01:34:52 PM
Jiminy, I thought I was old at 41.  You guys are dating yourself here... :rofl

 :rofl  yep old and experienced  :rofl just love that line though,   " i dare ya to knock this off.... come-on i dare ya" OH its so fitting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoAmQGzcLkc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoAmQGzcLkc&feature=related)  
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 22, 2011, 02:46:52 PM
i dont pay $14.95 a month to make new internet friends on a game board. i pay it to shoot cartoon planes out of the sky.
dont like me? oh well.  i dont care  :lol your just words typed on a screen, internet popularity is not what i strive for.
Oh my now who has the stuck up little attitude.  You made a challenge to Ack Ack, and now you say you won't fight unless he looses the attitude. The way I see it is that you are lacking the testical fortitude to walk into the DA and actually fight. You've backed yourself into a corner, and have no way of escaping other than to either fight Ack Ack or hide out till everyone forgets.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 22, 2011, 02:56:54 PM
Oh my now who has the stuck up little attitude.  You made a challenge to Ack Ack, and now you say you won't fight unless he looses the attitude. The way I see it is that you are lacking the testical fortitude to walk into the DA and actually fight. You've backed yourself into a corner, and have no way of escaping other than to either fight Ack Ack or hide out till everyone forgets.
how do i have an attitude anywheres near ack-acks? im just stating that when it comes down to it, i could care less how an internet comunity looks at me.

completely different from ack-acks views of him being god of the forums and that his word is gold, and that anyone who disagrees with him is a noob.

Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 22, 2011, 03:00:54 PM
Then drop your purse fight him in the DA, knock him down a peg.  Or fade away with excuses. 
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 22, 2011, 03:01:36 PM
Then drop your purse fight him in the DA, knock him down a peg.  Or fade away with excuses. 
:rofl listen at you, barking orders now.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 22, 2011, 03:04:23 PM
There's no orders.  You made a challenge, why not follow through. What do you have to lose?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 22, 2011, 03:10:05 PM
Then drop your purse fight him in the DA, knock him down a peg.  Or fade away with excuses. 
see what you stated here?
"nock him down a peg"?
ive started to try to do this about 3 pages back.
by forcing ack-ack to put his bloated ego aside and then name the time/place. and i said i wouldnt show up until he was able to do this.
and so far for 3 pages he's been unable to lose that giant ego of his to do this.
you guys want this to go down so bad? why not just simply tell ack-ack to do what i asked. then i'll be there tomarrow at 6p.m on the dot.
is it so hard for you ack-ack to stop being so conceded about yourself to type one measly sentence?  :rofl
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 22, 2011, 03:21:07 PM
so sure, name the day and the time in the DA. and i'll be there. i may win, i may lose, ether way idc rly. i'll just be happy to wipe that smug look off your face when you find out not everybody in the game is as inferior as you try to make them out to be.

Saturday, 6pm PST.  You in a B-25C and me in an A-20G.  We both take off opposite fields from one of the low altitude fields in the DA with a 6k initial merge alt, no firing on first merge.
He said the time and place.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 22, 2011, 03:31:39 PM
Saturday, 6pm PST.  You in a B-25C and me in an A-20G.  We both take off opposite fields from one of the low altitude fields in the DA with a 6k initial merge alt, no firing on first merge.  5 duels but since I do have a slight amount of pity for you, I will invoke the "Gentleman's Rule" after my "hat trick" and stop it at 3 fights so you won't have to suffer the indignity of losing the last two fights.  Deal?

ack-ack
if your going to quote him, quote EVERYTHING he said. not just what your trying to use to prove your point.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SlapShot on January 22, 2011, 03:34:44 PM
see what you stated here?
"nock him down a peg"?
ive started to try to do this about 3 pages back.
by forcing ack-ack to put his bloated ego aside and then name the time/place. and i said i wouldnt show up until he was able to do this.
and so far for 3 pages he's been unable to lose that giant ego of his to do this.
you guys want this to go down so bad? why not just simply tell ack-ack to do what i asked. then i'll be there tomarrow at 6p.m on the dot.
is it so hard for you ack-ack to stop being so conceded about yourself to type one measly sentence?  :rofl

Ack-Ack could tell you he loves you, kiss your ass, and you still wouldn't show up ... it has nothing to do with his attitude, it's all about you back peddling ... your a wuzzy ... plain and simple ... not that that surprised any of us.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 22, 2011, 04:02:34 PM
Ack-Ack could tell you he loves you, kiss your ass, and you still wouldn't show up ... it has nothing to do with his attitude, it's all about you back peddling ... your a wuzzy ... plain and simple ... not that that surprised any of us.
:rofl  yea, allright.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 22, 2011, 04:03:01 PM

is it so hard for you ack-ack to stop being so conceded about yourself to type one measly sentence?  :rofl

Is it so hard for you to show up at 6pm PST on Sunday to back up your claim of the B-25's dogfighting prowess or do you need to get a permission slip signed from your parents first?


ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 22, 2011, 04:07:19 PM
So Ack-Ack will you be in the DA at 6PM PST on Sunday? If so I'll try and show up and give it a go with you. It'll be fun, maybe we can get a few more to join in and have a good old furball....in bombers.

Yeah, I'll be there at 6pm PST tomorrow.  Would be cool if we can get a couple of others to show up and have them tag along as gunners and do some B-25H vs. B-25H fights too and see who can score a head on kill the furthest out with the 75mm cannon.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 22, 2011, 04:09:00 PM
Is it so hard for you to show up at 6pm PST on Sunday to back up your claim of the B-25's dogfighting prowess or do you need to get a permission slip signed from your parents first?


ack-ack
i can see that ego will never fade in you  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 22, 2011, 04:12:10 PM
Nor your lack of marbles.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 22, 2011, 04:22:42 PM
i can see that ego will never fade in you  :rolleyes:


I can see that you'll never have the testical fortitude to go to the DA.  Get used to the life of a eunich.


ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 22, 2011, 04:28:42 PM

I can see that you'll never have the testical fortitude to go to the DA.  Get used to the life of a eunich.


ack-ack
i've clearly stated over and over i'll happily show up if you could put your god-like ego to the side to simple say a few simple words without the sarcasm and conceded views you normally have

are you just not capable of it? are you just SO full of yourself that you cant say something to someone without insulting them? cmon ack-ack.

just say those few simple words and i'll gladly meet you in the DA.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: RichardDarkwood on January 22, 2011, 04:41:12 PM
I saw a photo recently of a A-20 that they converted in the pacific. It had several 50 cals. and I think a cannon. I will try to find the pic.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: BaldEagl on January 22, 2011, 05:09:27 PM
Oh well, that didn't work.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: cobia38 on January 22, 2011, 05:12:12 PM
Yeah, I'll be there at 6pm PST tomorrow.  Would be cool if we can get a couple of others to show up and have them tag along as gunners and do some B-25H vs. B-25H fights too and see who can score a head on kill the furthest out with the 75mm cannon.

ack-ack

 will be there for the fun, i,ll try to drag bullz along too  :D
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SIK1 on January 22, 2011, 05:35:13 PM
i've clearly stated over and over i'll happily show up if you could put your god-like ego to the side to simple say a few simple words without the sarcasm and conceded views you normally have

are you just not capable of it? are you just SO full of yourself that you cant say something to someone without insulting them? cmon ack-ack.

just say those few simple words and i'll gladly meet you in the DA.

As far as I see it the only one that is showing any attitude is you. Ackack did nothing but state the facts. You took exception to that here.

ack-ack, allmost every time something pops up that goes against what your saying, you try to blow it off by simply saying "the other pilot has no skill" or "doesnt know what he's doing".and ive seen you take some serious flak after awhile from people who's gotten tired of your insulting crap. different people use different styles and different techniques. but in your mind if they dont use YOUR way of flying then they have "absolutely no clue as what to do". youve just insulted two pilots you've never incounted before, calling them both pretty much noobs. we could just settle this with you in an a20 and me in a b25, if you win that figh then you can call me a bad pilot, but until then your no better than i am.

Then on here you state.


i havent backed down from his 1v1, im just waiting for him to name a time/date.

and ive had much success in a b25c, including shooting down a20s in the LW and even bostons in the EW. i believe its the better plane. and i'll prove it to the best of my ability.





just like my f4u-1 proved it was better against your little spit16  :airplane:ws

I guess that's not a very accurate statement anymore, because since then you have done nothing but shoot your mouth off and try to avoid a 1v1 that you initiated.

The best thing you could do now is shut up, show up tomorrow, and try to learn something(because lord knows there is a lot for you to learn).

My bet is that you will continue to play the hurt little girl and continue on with your own little fantasy world.

Oh and just for the record a properly flown spit 16 will eat a -1 hog up all day long. (that's coming from a long time birdcage driver)

The more you say the worse you look. You try to blame ackack, and a lot of people do get bent out of shape by what he says. That's only because they are so use to every one blowing sunshine up their skirts about how great and unique they are that when someone speaks the truth it upsets them, and really princess you shouldn't get upset. You should take the opportunity to honestly evaluate your skills that you speak so highly of by taking up the challenge that you so boldly layed down. 
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: BaldEagl on January 22, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
(http://img.costumecraze.com/images/vendors/forum/63818-Deluxe-Kids-T-rex-Dinosaur-Costume-main.jpg)

B-25's the bestest.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: RichardDarkwood on January 22, 2011, 06:38:01 PM
Ackack did nothing but state the facts. 

Not taking sides here but.....


Actually he stated his opinion about someone, based on what that person wrote on a forum. A form of flame baiting. Granted he is entitled to that opinion, but when he does the same thing over and over to different people a pattern has formed. Yet if anyone else flame baits on this forum it ends up differently for them.


LOL!  The B-25C can't do what the A-20 can do in a dogfight.

No, it doesn't depend on the pilot. 

 can see that you'll never have the testical fortitude to go to the DA.  Get used to the life of a eunich.


you're in the SOARS so I'm sure you have a rather hefty book of excuses.


Not saying that you were the better pilot because from the myriad of comments you've made on the board, you're clearly not a good pilot.  You just happened to run into someone that is worse than you are.




Tyrannis,

You should really just ignore such people. You are here for thier entertainment now. It is rather obvious that nothing will be done about it. Just go on playing the game the way you want to, it is your money.

You don't have to proove anything to anyone no matter what they say.

After all a scared game programmer who hides behind a key board is really no threat anyway. Just play how you want to.



Todd

Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Shuffler on January 22, 2011, 10:48:34 PM
i can see that ego will never fade in you  :rolleyes:

From reading this thread It looks more like the ego started on your serve. It was driven back and your not sure how to handle it.

It's no big deal if your beat in the DA. Good chance to learn some moves. Take advantage of it.


Just think... if you beat AKAK then you can do all the talking and have someone to shine your shoes. :D
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 22, 2011, 10:56:11 PM
Yeah, I'll be there at 6pm PST tomorrow.  Would be cool if we can get a couple of others to show up and have them tag along as gunners and do some B-25H vs. B-25H fights too and see who can score a head on kill the furthest out with the 75mm cannon.

ack-ack

Alright I'll try and be there, I'm on EST so that's 9PM IIRC. (I hate converting time)

Also our biggest problem is the 2 bomber airfields are almost 70 miles apart so expect about a 8 minute flight just to meet up.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: bullz on January 23, 2011, 01:41:11 PM
Hello my fellow AH dweebs ... SUCH a big conversation about a fight that has 10/1 odds .. ohh and that long flight we gotta take will be  perfect for a20 to dominate fight when they merge   :lol  count on me and cobia being there .. and if noone decides to showup .. atleast u can watch me spanking cobia a20 vs a20  :banana: its peanut butter jelly time boyz and girlz  strap up and lets get R dun ... ill even up the anti  and carry a few 500 lbers in my belly .. 25 is toast.. burnt toast .. i hope cobia didnt read what i said about him .. i g2g see yall tonight :bolt:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: wgmount on January 23, 2011, 04:26:36 PM
I'm up for the b 25 b 25 fights. or a20 v b25 I'll take an a20 though. It would be better to get it set up in the AvA though. you'd have to fly through the ack in the DA. 6pm Pst

is 9 pm cst right?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SIK1 on January 23, 2011, 04:37:58 PM
I'm up for the b 25 b 25 fights. or a20 v b25 I'll take an a20 though. It would be better to get it set up in the AvA though. you'd have to fly through the ack in the DA. 6pm Pst

is 9 pm cst right?


6pm pst is 9pm est, so that would be 8pm cst I do believe.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: DrBone1 on January 23, 2011, 04:53:51 PM
why would you waste the time :rolleyes:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Slash27 on January 23, 2011, 06:26:27 PM
What's a waste of time?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 23, 2011, 06:27:52 PM
why would you waste the time :rolleyes:
if i enjoy waisting my time is it really time waisted?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Slash27 on January 23, 2011, 06:34:22 PM
How's your waste line?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 23, 2011, 07:02:51 PM
31 in, yes I'm skinny.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Dadsguns on January 23, 2011, 07:09:01 PM
Well, whats the verdict?
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 23, 2011, 07:12:55 PM
I bet 4 toothless sheep Tyrannus doesn't show.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 23, 2011, 08:10:31 PM
I bet 4 toothless sheep Tyrannus doesn't show.

Nope, so far no show.  I'm in there right now flying around in an A-20 over bomber alley.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: cobia38 on January 23, 2011, 08:12:20 PM

 shuff and i was in there for about 30 min and no one showed
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 23, 2011, 08:28:48 PM
I'd like to be there, driving from Buffalo to Columbus, Oh sucks.  Although my iPhone makes it a litte more enjoyable.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Dadsguns on January 23, 2011, 08:39:48 PM
shuff and i was in there for about 30 min and no one showed

<<was riding shotgun, notta'....
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: wgmount on January 23, 2011, 09:15:57 PM
I was in there too no one showed so I did squad stuff.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 23, 2011, 09:25:11 PM
Had a blast in the DA with Beefcake fighting in the A-20 vs. him in the B-25C.  Later we did a B-25H vs. B-25C duel and then finished off the night with a couple of B-25H joust fights that we a lot of fun and probably could be turned into a small fighting league of its own.  Here are the films, enjoy.

A-20G vs. B-25C (http://www.mediafire.com/?0d5b0xseld92zvl)
As you can see, when it comes to dogfighting the B-25C is outclassed which should come as no surprise to anyone.  It's a bomber and while some may use it offensively or defensively against air targets, it does not mean the plane is a "dogfighter", let alone successful as one.  I'm not anywhere near the level of flying in an A-20G as someone like cobia or Widewing and Beefcake is an excellent pilot in that Mitchell (as seen in duel #2) but he couldn't over come the fact that anytime I had to reset the fight to get a position all I needed to do was go into the vertical.  

B-25H vs. B-25C (http://www.mediafire.com/?mbhoo7nifr9l8ax)
I upped a B-25H for this fight, with a free for all merge for fun.  I kept on laughing each time I fired the 75mm wondering if Beefcake could hear the blast and then the fight evolved into a gunner fight like two galleons fighting on the seas.  Great fun.

The next fights were purely for fun, B-25H jousting.  Coming in head on at starting to fire at d4.0 out and keeping on firing until there is a hit or both planes pass each other (hopefully without colliding), extending to d6.0, turn around and do it again.  

First joust (http://www.mediafire.com/?a7v880pxsu8j5ja) Beefcake nailed me hard, saw the round coming at me too and knew I was dead.  So much for the old saying, "You never see the one that hits you."  Wrongway was in Beefcake's top turret, think I might have made him crap his pants when I lobbed a 75mm round right past the turret.  

The second one (http://www.mediafire.com/?442ep49945tphoj) lasted a little longer, we actually were able to make two passes and I got lucky with a shot inside what looked to be 800 yards right on his nose.  

Thanks again to Beefcake for making it a fun time.   :salute

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 23, 2011, 10:13:23 PM
 :salute Ack-Ack that was a lot of fun. I wasn't surprised by the outcome but I really enjoyed the fights none the less. Here are a few screen shots from the A20 vs B25 duels.


Duel #1:

Taking off to go meet AKAK and determine the fate of the galaxy. *Cue Duel of Fates music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbPX4xrKNlM *
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/01Takeoff.png)


AKAK and I meet over the strats and commence our epic battle. I turn around in an attempt to catch AKAK while he goes into the vertical.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/02FirstMerge.png)


However, I just end up playing into AKAK's hands as he comes over the top in perfect position on me.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/03ComingDown.png)


With a few shots the battle is over after I suffer an instant pilot kill. A20: 1 - B25C: 0   :salute
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/04FirstSortieDeath.png)


More from Duel 2 coming soon...
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 23, 2011, 10:41:31 PM
The Epic Duel, part two.


AKAK and I close in on each other.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/05SecondSortieStart.png)


As we pass each other on the merge AKAK goes into the vertical, just as I expected. My only real chance is to try and get him on the deck, so I blow past him and extend out by about 2k, my plane creaking as it starts to overstress from the excess speed.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/06.png)


As I slowly come around I see AKAK barreling in on me so I turn into as hard as I can trying to get him to break off the attack.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/07.png)


AKAK whizzes past me at 350mph, but I manage to avoid his 50cals of DOOM!!!!........for about 4 seconds.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/08.png)


Though I avoided the first attack, AKAK manages to loop the A20 very quickly. I again turn into him again hoping to avoid the attack.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/09.png)


Once again I survive but AKAK once again loops over on to my tail. I'm now very slow and I only have about 300ft to work with. Time for something stupid!
As AKAK comes up underneath me I begin to climb while chopping my throttle and rolling.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/10.png)


As I start to invert I'm hoping that AKAK has to much speed forcing an overshoot.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/11.png)


*vomits*
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/12.png)


As I roll out I see AKAK still behind me, I'm now out of alt, speed, and luck.
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/13.png)


With AKAK 400yrds behind me I try to use my "Hail Mary" and begin shooting at him with my turret. I manage to get lucky and nail 1 of his engines, however.....
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/14.png)


......he hits one of my engines which catches fire. A20: 2 - B25C: 0   :salute
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/15.png)



Thanks for the fun Ack-Ack. I really enjoyed it and I look forward to maybe doing this again. B25H Jousting!  :D
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/The%20Duel%20-%20A20%20vs%20B25/HoShot.png)




Title: Re: A20s
Post by: W7LPNRICK on January 23, 2011, 10:49:28 PM
Thanks for posting! Any video film? :salute
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Beefcake on January 23, 2011, 11:01:05 PM
I think Ack-Ack posted the films in his last post.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Hawk55 on January 24, 2011, 07:02:40 AM
How's your waste line?

 :rofl   Took the words out of my mouth Slash.   :cheers:
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SlapShot on January 24, 2011, 07:41:18 AM
WOW ... I am totally blown away that the A-20 beat the snot out of the B-25 and that Tyrannis didn't show ... NOT !!!!
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 24, 2011, 07:42:14 AM
 :lol :rofl
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 68ZooM on January 24, 2011, 09:44:55 AM
well maybe he can keep his mouth shut now, he had his chance to get off the porch
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Shuffler on January 24, 2011, 09:45:49 AM
Looked like a great time AKAK and Beefcake. We did not see anyone showing so we went over to the lake in A-20s. I took full fuel.... lol. Not a good idea.

Had someone run into my wing and went down ....... I warned Dadsguns I was bailing but no response. I bailed then Dadsguns, who was AFK, came back and was in a time warp spinning and could not get out. Think he finally had to ALT+F4.

I did tell him I'd go watch episodes of Time Tunnel to see if I could find out what he should do. :D
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Tyrannis on January 24, 2011, 10:34:21 AM
WOW ... I am totally blown away that the A-20 beat the snot out of the B-25 and that Tyrannis didn't show ... NOT !!!!
oh? what i asked done wasent done, therefore i just stayed on company of heros.
you can all sit here and mock me, i dont care  :rolleyes:
but when ack-ack wants to put that ego aside for a sec and msg me, i'll be at the DA in a heartbeat.
done with this thread. i know this msg will just cause alot of ppl to blow up on me for not showing, yet no1's gonna get on ack-ack because he couldnt drop his ego to type one measly sentence right

ack-ack, when you feel you CAN lose the ego, drop me a msg, and like ive been saying i'll show up in the DA right away.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SIK1 on January 24, 2011, 10:43:28 AM
oh? what i asked done wasent done, therefore i just stayed on company of heros.
you can all sit here and mock me, i dont care  :rolleyes:
but when ack-ack wants to put that ego aside for a sec and msg me, i'll be at the DA in a heartbeat.
done with this thread. i know this msg will just cause alot of ppl to blow up on me for not showing, yet no1's gonna get on ack-ack because he couldnt drop his ego to type one measly sentence right

ack-ack, when you feel you CAN lose the ego, drop me a msg, and like ive been saying i'll show up in the DA right away.

Cryonus we're not mocking you, we are laughing at you. :rofl
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 5PointOh on January 24, 2011, 10:44:01 AM
You should have just let it die.

(http://www.nickycakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/crybaby.png)
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: RTHolmes on January 24, 2011, 11:13:56 AM
oh? what i asked done wasent done, therefore i just stayed on company of heros.
you can all sit here and mock me, i dont care  :rolleyes:
but when ack-ack wants to put that ego aside for a sec and msg me, i'll be at the DA in a heartbeat.
done with this thread. i know this msg will just cause alot of ppl to blow up on me for not showing, yet no1's gonna get on ack-ack because he couldnt drop his ego to type one measly sentence right

ack-ack, when you feel you CAN lose the ego, drop me a msg, and like ive been saying i'll show up in the DA right away.

amazing. akak was actually quite polite (a rare thing), even after you called him a hypocrite! you challenged him to a duel twice. he gave you the day and time, and implied he would beat you, thats all.

anything past that isnt ego, its just prodding you because you have been trying to wriggle out of your own DA challenge.

if you're not going to follow through with it, dont DA challenge people. man up or shut up is how it works.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: SlapShot on January 24, 2011, 11:56:23 AM
oh? what i asked done wasent done, therefore i just stayed on company of heros.
you can all sit here and mock me, i dont care  :rolleyes:
but when ack-ack wants to put that ego aside for a sec and msg me, i'll be at the DA in a heartbeat.
done with this thread. i know this msg will just cause alot of ppl to blow up on me for not showing, yet no1's gonna get on ack-ack because he couldnt drop his ego to type one measly sentence right

ack-ack, when you feel you CAN lose the ego, drop me a msg, and like ive been saying i'll show up in the DA right away.

No one is going to get on ACK-ACK because none of us think he had an "ego" ... except you, which turned out be be a very convenient way to back out of the challenge ... so there is nothing to "get on".

You made a challenge, he accepted it and threw a little bravado on top of it. Nothing really out of the norm when challenged ... except for the challenger to ask his opponent to say ... "pretty please with sugar on top" ... :rofl

Don't worry ... one of these days your nutz will drop into the sack.
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 24, 2011, 12:19:37 PM
ack-ack, when you feel you CAN lose the ego, drop me a msg, and like ive been saying i'll show up in the DA right away.

You should lay off the estrogen if you're going to challenge someone to the DA and then back out with limp wristed excuses.  We all know the real reason why you wouldn't follow through with your challenge, no need to keep on making excuses.

ack-ack
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: W7LPNRICK on January 24, 2011, 01:07:15 PM
Ouch! Time to crawl back in a hole?  :neener:  :ahand
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: 68ZooM on January 24, 2011, 04:36:17 PM
You should lay off the estrogen if you're going to challenge someone to the DA and then back out with limp wristed excuses.  We all know the real reason why you wouldn't follow through with your challenge, no need to keep on making excuses.

ack-ack


See now he will take this as ack-ack throwing his ego out there at him, but its just Ack-Ack as we all know, it's not like ack-ack woke up the morning of this fight and had Eggo's with Eggs for his Ego or anything   :neener:
 you should of just went in and dueled him and been done with it
Title: Re: A20s
Post by: Wolfala on January 25, 2011, 01:15:08 PM
See Rule #4