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Title: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 01, 2011, 08:35:15 PM
If this isn't an April's Fool joke by Gaijin, looks like AH will be seeing some competition in the coming year.

World of Planes (http://www.gaijin.ru/en/games/world_of_planes/)


ack-ack
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Plazus on April 01, 2011, 09:44:38 PM
Interesting find. I wonder what other features the game might have, besides the plane selection and their "realistic" flight sim modeling.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Rino on April 01, 2011, 09:52:57 PM
     Upgrading and buying new planes...I'll let someone else be the guinea pig on this one.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Krupinski on April 01, 2011, 09:53:13 PM
Is that a K4/G10 with gondolas?

..and a P51D shooting only 4 .50s?
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Blackwulf on April 01, 2011, 09:57:17 PM
Eh, I'll stick to AH. 
I'd rather stick by the guys who stuck by us when none of the bigger companies wanted to keep their flight sim going, and who listen to the community regarding bugs and improvements.
The latter carries a lot of weight with me.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 01, 2011, 10:05:06 PM
Interesting find. I wonder what other features the game might have, besides the plane selection and their "realistic" flight sim modeling.

Considering their last affair was Wings of Prey which was essentially a console to PC port with an arcade flight model, I would be interested to see what their "realistic" flight model will be like.

    Upgrading and buying new planes...I'll let someone else be the guinea pig on this one.

Saw that too, which leads me to think that if this is real then it's probably going to be a F2P game with an item mall.  Basically, skill will probably not be determined on how you fly but what power-ups you buy.

Is that a K4/G10 with gondolas?

..and a P51D shooting only 4 .50s?

Didn't P-51Ds have a secondary trigger for firing the outboard machine guns?  

ack-ack
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Krupinski on April 01, 2011, 10:08:33 PM
Yes, in AH I know you can fire the 4 outboard .50s or the 2 inner .50s. The screenshot is showing the 2 inner and 2 outer .50s being fired.. no damage is present either.  :headscratch:  :uhoh
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Selino631 on April 01, 2011, 10:17:55 PM
hasnt this topic came up before? I remember seeing this type of stuff in the past, but i dont see it really affecting AH2
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 01, 2011, 10:49:24 PM
Competition is always good. Prevents over arrogance and complacency
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: grizz441 on April 01, 2011, 11:11:41 PM
It could always inadvertently help business as well.  If such a game draws a crowd into the WW2 combat genre, they may be more likely to discover this superior game and jump ship.  That is assuming it is superior which I'm sure it is.

Call it "free indirect advertisement".
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Karnak on April 01, 2011, 11:16:21 PM
I recall HiTech saying something to the effect that the last thing a company wants is to be the last man standing of a dying industry.  That was in reference to somebody's comment about the health, or lack thereof, of WarBirds III at the time Fighter Ace was closing down.

Competition is good.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 01, 2011, 11:28:37 PM
Competition is always good. Prevents over arrogance and complacency

ding ding
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: BillyD on April 02, 2011, 12:17:29 AM
dunno the part about fixing your plane with a screwdriver is fishy


For real hardcore simmers there will be a way to tune and fix your plane's engine with a «screwdriver». Now it is even more realistic than in a real life where there were technicians for that.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: saggs on April 02, 2011, 12:26:30 AM
dunno the part about fixing your plane with a screwdriver is fishy


For real hardcore simmers there will be a way to tune and fix your plane's engine with a «screwdriver». Now it is even more realistic than in a real life where there were technicians for that.

Yea...             more realistic then in real life.   Ummm   OK  :huh

Although this:

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Combat is always going on, in a real time on a huge area of Eastern, Western, Pacific, and Mediterranean theatres of war. And the situation on the battlefield will be affected only by players. Countries can be defeated if all infrastructure and all ground armies will be destroyed. Pilots of victorious countries will get new ranks, and war will re-start again. It's expected that average duration of each war will be about 3 months.

sounds like it might really appeal to those AH players whose primary game play mode is to capture bases and win the war.


Then this:

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Another key feature is the realism. In contrast to «Wings of Prey» where was 'Arcade' mode «World of Planes» will have no concessions for an inexperienced player. The developers promise the most realistic game that could impress even experienced virtual pilot. However, it is expected that the game will be suitable even for beginners, but how it will be achieved is a secret yet.

Which is in direct contradiction to itself.  So... there will be no concessions for inexperienced players.  Yet, the game will be suitable even for beginners. again...  :huh

Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: moot on April 02, 2011, 12:58:49 AM
Picking up on what AH did right: high fidelity physics and dynamics of flight and air combat (no concessions to new players), but accessible enough for new players thanks to streamlining E.G. combat trim. Or relaxed realism arena of some kind.  "How it will be achieved is secret yet" is marketing device.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: PFactorDave on April 02, 2011, 01:03:11 AM
I recall HiTech saying something to the effect that the last thing a company wants is to be the last man standing of a dying industry.  That was in reference to somebody's comment about the health, or lack thereof, of WarBirds III at the time Fighter Ace was closing down.

Competition is good.

I have been wondering how much WoT is influencing the upcoming changes to the GV game.

Yes, competition is good, it inspires innovation.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: moot on April 02, 2011, 01:12:17 AM
I started working on a new control method for tanks last week. It will be similar to the control system in  WoT in that movement will be controlled via aswd from any position.

The new system will account for the different turning abilities of wheeled and tracked vehicles including tanks that could have the tracks turn opposite directions.

Main gun control will be available from the commanders position.

We will also be redoing sights to match the real world counterparts.

I have not played much yet with optic clarity, but I have a few ideas to see how they work.


HiTech



Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Getback on April 02, 2011, 02:08:20 AM
I'm not learning another 100 planes! Heck I haven't learned the ones I fly currently.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 02, 2011, 02:11:37 AM
Then this:

Which is in direct contradiction to itself.  So... there will be no concessions for inexperienced players.  Yet, the game will be suitable even for beginners. again...  :huh

They'll just give the newbies spitfires  :neener:
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Carrel on April 02, 2011, 10:12:31 AM
This might get me back into flight sims if I can spend a couple of hundred bucks on a jet and shoot down poor people in Spits.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 02, 2011, 03:41:39 PM
dunno the part about fixing your plane with a screwdriver is fishy


For real hardcore simmers there will be a way to tune and fix your plane's engine with a «screwdriver». Now it is even more realistic than in a real life where there were technicians for that.

dunno. I dont seem to read too many stories about pilots arming and fueling their aircraft themselves. I think they had technicians for that too
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: mechanic on April 02, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
Now it is even more realistic than in a real life

Unlike most people, I totaly get Billy's sense of humour  :rofl
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: jdbecks on April 02, 2011, 07:42:02 PM
No doubt it will look nice, but I can not see it be able to deliver superb graphics, realist physics and FM/DM with 100+ players :) as much as I enjoyed playing WOP...it was quite arcadish.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Meatwad on April 02, 2011, 09:09:21 PM
If you kindly notice, the link above is now gone with a "404" in its place
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: james on April 02, 2011, 09:13:21 PM
http://www.gaijin.ru/ru    This works
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Soup Nazi on April 03, 2011, 12:30:54 AM
Busted link. Was Voss involved?
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Kazaa on April 03, 2011, 01:52:43 AM
Made in development with Wings of Prey, no thanks.

Wings of Prey looks stunning, has fantastic optimization of current hardware but the way the planes handle is pure arcade, rubberband responsiveness to the max.

But if a game was developed with AH flight model and WoP graphics, I would take early retirment at the age of 23.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: phatzo on April 03, 2011, 03:38:42 AM
Busted link. Was Voss involved?
No link for you, two weeks
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Airborne on April 03, 2011, 06:45:10 AM
I recall HiTech saying something to the effect that the last thing a company wants is to be the last man standing of a dying industry.  That was in reference to somebody's comment about the health, or lack thereof, of WarBirds III at the time Fighter Ace was closing down.

Competition is good.

 :salute I miss Fighter Ace..... Started that game when I was 13. Found AH2 a few years ago and flew in both... The only good thing to come from FA going under was 90% of my squad actually flies AH2 now as the norm rather than for a taste of something different.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: MiloMorai on April 03, 2011, 07:30:19 AM
Made in development with Wings of Prey, no thanks.

Wings of Prey looks stunning, has fantastic optimization of current hardware but the way the planes handle is pure arcade, rubberband responsiveness to the max.

But if a game was developed with AH flight model and WoP graphics, I would take early retirment at the age of 23.

Wasn't WoP based on the Il-2 software?
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 03, 2011, 10:43:33 AM
I'm not learning another 100 planes! Heck I haven't learned the ones I fly currently.

We know  :D   :bolt:
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Kazaa on April 03, 2011, 12:27:23 PM
Wasn't WoP based on the Il-2 software?

I'm going to say yes, only from what I've heard. I didn't play IL2 for more than a couple hours.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Kazaa on April 03, 2011, 06:27:46 PM
I changed my mind, World of Planes has the Gloster Meteor! :D
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Bruv119 on April 03, 2011, 07:41:02 PM
I changed my mind, World of Planes has the Gloster Meteor! :D

i see what you did there   :P
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: mthrockmor on April 03, 2011, 08:07:56 PM
Arcade?

Boo
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Kazaa on April 03, 2011, 11:45:52 PM
Arcade?

Boo

According to Google translator. Apparently, World of Planes will "promise the most realistic game that could impress even experienced virtual drivers." It goes on by saying that there will be no Arcade mode. I guess they want to focus on absolute realism, or close to it as possible without taking away the fun aspect.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: moot on April 04, 2011, 03:25:31 AM
Realism focus second only to april fool's humor
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Kazaa on April 04, 2011, 07:21:57 AM
I wanted to fly Meteor. :cry
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: caldera on April 04, 2011, 10:23:42 AM
I wanted to fly Meteor. :cry

You can buy one on Qbids for $19.67!   Just like the Apple IPads for $4.98.  ;)
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: ImADot on April 04, 2011, 12:33:06 PM


http://www.gaijin.ru/en/games/worldofplanes/ (http://www.gaijin.ru/en/games/worldofplanes/)

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Game Info
We are very pleased that «World of Planes» announce had good feedback from press and gamers.

Of course, announcement of the game with screenshots from «Wings of Prey» (1.5 years old game) — is April's Fools Day joke!

Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 04, 2011, 12:38:56 PM
So it was an April Fool's joke like I had suspected. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on April 04, 2011, 12:49:06 PM
It could always inadvertently help business as well.  If such a game draws a crowd into the WW2 combat genre, they may be more likely to discover this superior game and jump ship.  That is assuming it is superior which I'm sure it is.

Call it "free indirect advertisement".

Yes. Back when I was with Mechanical Dynamics, Inc (long since bought out by MSC), we used to say that of our competition. We dominated in market share but there they were, helping us grow the Dynamics CAE market.

I was talking about this very thing in  another thread - MMOGs very much rely on bandwagon effect. More buzz means more baby seals and more club-club-clubbin with blood-and-gore-soaked nail-impaled beatin' sticks. If the arscheklownen help create more afcionados, they can (and will) find their way here.

My fondest hope: all-phase total WWII with every type of weapon and combatant - someday.

<edit ex post facto> and boy am I glad I didn't post anything about WOP and the veracity of any claims pertaining to...
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: grizz441 on April 04, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
So it was an April Fool's joke like I had suspected. 

ack-ack

You didn't suspect enough to refrain from posting the "news" though.   :D
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Reschke on April 04, 2011, 03:00:47 PM
My fondest hope: all-phase total WWII with every type of weapon and combatant - someday.

That was supposed to be the case when WW2OL...now BattleGround Europe came out. They were supposed to set it up with theaters all over the world with players having several different online "personas" in order to play as Soviet, German, English, French, American, Japanese, etc... in order to have fun. Too bad it didn't happen the way they wanted.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: minke on April 04, 2011, 03:54:05 PM
So it was an April Fool's joke like I had suspected. 

ack-ack

Not a very funny one. Not that i'm annoyed or anything, just didnt feel my sides split.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: PJ_Godzilla on April 04, 2011, 06:45:32 PM
That was supposed to be the case when WW2OL...now BattleGround Europe came out. They were supposed to set it up with theaters all over the world with players having several different online "personas" in order to play as Soviet, German, English, French, American, Japanese, etc... in order to have fun. Too bad it didn't happen the way they wanted.

So how did it work out? I don't follow this stuff in the OLG world. If it turned into a nationist-enmity hatefest, so much the better for spirited competition. I suspect, though, it went a bit limp.
Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 04, 2011, 06:49:05 PM
Wonder how WW2OL is doing in China or did they finally cancel those plans?

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Title: Re: Aces High going to see a little competition in the future?
Post by: Tango on April 04, 2011, 08:50:34 PM
I heard the Chinese ripped them off and never gave them anything for it.