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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Sloehand on April 08, 2011, 11:39:37 AM
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It was fairly late at night, only about 100 people on total. This guy was upping M4's repeatedly and very determinedly trying to take down (as I found out later) the radar on a Bish airbase. Well, he was obviously a newb as he died gloriously and repeatedly first from a couple of aircraft, then from me in a GV. Eventually, he slowed down and I PM'd him about one of his tactics being a bad idea. He responded and I learned he'd been told a number of things from his Knit "countrymen" as this was his first night in the game.
First and foremost was that Alt - F4 would get him out of trouble (which it did of course, sending him to Windows). Then they told him that smoke would kill enemy tanks and use lots of it (the tactic I called him on). Further they told him to attack until he took out the radar no matter what cause they were sending a mission in to capture. Of course, over a half hour or more, no mission ever got started even after the radar went down.
Over the radio, in text, I talked to him for awhile and offered some much more accurate advice, etc. Most surprised was he when he found out he could change countries, as I guess he'd been told he couldn't. He changed to Bish. And though a newb, we're happy to have him. He learns real fast. That very night after I told him how to level bomb, he dropped 2 hangers at a Knit base with pinpoint, single salvos in a single pass.
The point of this is, I was appalled that veteran players would jerk around a new guy like that (there was other inaccurate "advice" as well). And this guy was NOT a kid. In fact, he was older than most of us and very interested in learning the new game he'd just found. Frankly, even though they were Knits, I'm was a bit ashamed of for the community as a whole. This is not what we need to keep the game alive and fun.
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WTG Sloehand.
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Hence the reason our rotation into Knitland, which is scheduled for 2 months, normally only last a month or less. Although we try to get along with everyone, the knits seem to have an overabundance of arrogant @%%holes.
Thanks Sloehand for helping him. :rock
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yeah, that alt+f4 thing is stupid and tiresome... :salute good job sloehand...i don't personally have the patience because every other time i've tried to help someone, they don't have a mic for vox and they refuse to read the plethora of information on the trainers website.
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Good job Sloe.
Should out the pranksters that were feeding him the b.s. That's just garbage behavior.
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I was lucky on my first day back in March of 2007. I had upped at a base with some very respectable men (what I later found out was a squad composed mainly of family members). On that night I was invited in their squad (on the first night I ever played!), and I learned so much from them.
Through the years, I haven't seen much of this behavior. It's really sad than some "adults" would take advantage of the newer guys of all ages. Sloehand, I #S# you for what you did. You clearly showed some class there, and I wish there were many more like you.
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What a stupid move, to try and drive new players away.
I'm glad no one did that to me when I first started.
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Another my chess piece is better than your chess piece thread. :banana: :bhead
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Another my chess piece is better than your chess piece thread. :banana: :bhead
We found one person who was giving him bad info... :lol
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WTG Sloehand. I have a lot of respect for guys that take the new guys under their wings and show them the ropes. I do ok answering short direct questions, but I just don't have it in me to teach someone how to use the game from the bottom up. That takes a level of commitment and patience I just don't have in me when I'm ingame. Bravo to you. I don't think it's a Knit only thing, I've seen it happen everywhere.
The bad thing about the Alt-F4 thing isn't that it drops the person to the desktop. It's what Gyrene said, it's tiresome and worst of all, bland and uncreative. It's the most ancient of lame online 'pranks'. Now with that said, anyone who gets upset enough over that being done to them to leave probably would leave the first time they get picked anyways... Still, it's shallow, and pedantic. (yes, I am well aware of the irony of using an overused Family Guy quote to describe something that's overused) :aok
I just don't get why people feel the need to abuse new guys. Frankly, I get that some people don't want to hear newbie questions. That's great, I am often not in the mood for it either. The difference is, it's harmful to browbeat them when a simple .squelch newguy means you're not subjected to his newguy questions, and you can get on with your evening. Silent, painless for you, painless for the new guy who's probably quite overwhelmed looking at all there is to do in this game for the first time.
Is it really that hard to shut up and let the guys who are so inclined help him?
Now, on the other side of things, I still firmly believe that 'Go to the training site' is a perfectly valid answer to a lot of newguy questions. The trainers can help the guy a heckuva lot more than a lot of people ingame, IMO.
Wiley.
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I suspect a minority group (a squad most likely) if it's as late as you suggest they would probably make up the bulk of the knits.
Most times I'm on we are quite accomodating. We try to answer at least "so many" questions newbies have before suggesting the TA or the forums, things like that.
Generally speaking the knits are quite friendly and nice to newbies. I think that a select lot of jerk-offs there were being mean. Shame on them.
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Oh lord, really? Its a tradition to mess with the "newbs" like that. Hell, I got all the tricks pulled on me when I started.
Pat yourself on the back sloe. Im cooking up some cookies. Want one?
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How do we really know that "vets" told him all this info and not some other newbs, i try to help people when i can time permitting, some like the advice some don't and some take offense to suggestions
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Frankly, I get that some people don't want to hear newbie questions. That's great, I am often not in the mood for it either.
While it may be the new guys responsibility to do a little learnin' on his own folks need to remember that although it's the 10,000th time you've been asked the question it's the first time the new guy has asked it.
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How do we really know that "vets" told him all this info and not some other newbs, i try to help people when i can time permitting, some like the advice some don't and some take offense to suggestions
Wait a minute Zoom, that's not what you told me when i was first asking on country channel about how to get my gear up in the Stuka... :D
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Oh lord, really? Its a tradition to mess with the "newbs" like that. Hell, I got all the tricks pulled on me when I started.
Poor behavior is poor behavior regardless of how many times, or how long, it's been done.
This kind of teasing of newbs kind of ranks up there with torturing puppies or kittens --- it takes a very weak person to do it.
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Wait a minute Zoom, that's not what you told me when i was first asking on country channel about how to get my gear up in the Stuka... :D
was that right before you asked me wheres wep? :D beside i told ya fly low the tress will remove them :D
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was that right before you asked me wheres wep? :D beside i told ya fly low the tress will remove them :D
You are typing too fast, slow down please! I am trying to write this in my Aces High Journal... :rofl
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While it may be the new guys responsibility to do a little learnin' on his own folks need to remember that although it's the 10,000th time you've been asked the question it's the first time the new guy has asked it.
Very true, but while it's good to help new guys, I don't believe it's every player's responsibility to do so. Trainers are there for a reason. I do believe it's every player's responsibility to not hinder them getting the help they need.
If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all. ;)
Wiley.
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Oh lord, really? Its a tradition to mess with the "newbs" like that. Hell, I got all the tricks pulled on me when I started.
Pat yourself on the back sloe. Im cooking up some cookies. Want one?
lol it was a tradition even 9 years ago when i started
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You are typing too fast, slow down please! I am trying to write this in my Aces High Journal... :rofl
hey I'll be putting all the info on disc, well and a big book with words and pictures even some pop-ups for the reading impaired
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Thanks for helping the guy out Sloehand. I really appreciate you doing that.
WTG you guys that were jerking this guy around, you are poor sports and you are liars, be proud of that.
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It was fairly late at night, only about 100 people on total. This guy was upping M4's repeatedly and very determinedly trying to take down (as I found out later) the radar on a Bish airbase. Well, he was obviously a newb as he died gloriously and repeatedly first from a couple of aircraft, then from me in a GV. Eventually, he slowed down and I PM'd him about one of his tactics being a bad idea. He responded and I learned he'd been told a number of things from his Knit "countrymen" as this was his first night in the game.
First and foremost was that Alt - F4 would get him out of trouble (which it did of course, sending him to Windows). Then they told him that smoke would kill enemy tanks and use lots of it (the tactic I called him on). Further they told him to attack until he took out the radar no matter what cause they were sending a mission in to capture. Of course, over a half hour or more, no mission ever got started even after the radar went down.
Over the radio, in text, I talked to him for awhile and offered some much more accurate advice, etc. Most surprised was he when he found out he could change countries, as I guess he'd been told he couldn't. He changed to Bish. And though a newb, we're happy to have him. He learns real fast. That very night after I told him how to level bomb, he dropped 2 hangers at a Knit base with pinpoint, single salvos in a single pass.
The point of this is, I was appalled that veteran players would jerk around a new guy like that (there was other inaccurate "advice" as well). And this guy was NOT a kid. In fact, he was older than most of us and very interested in learning the new game he'd just found. Frankly, even though they were Knits, I'm was a bit ashamed of for the community as a whole. This is not what we need to keep the game alive and fun.
:salute Sloehand. I get fed up with the crap some vets tell newbies. If you want to have a good fight and battle, help these new guys out so that competition gets better. Giving them false information on playing will turn them away from play AH.
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Guys, I was simply relating what happened as I heard and saw it. Wasn't intended as a Knit-bash. I'm sure there are dweebs in every country. And, just to be fair, the knits involved may have had better or worse intentions, but we'll never know not having heard directly what was said to the new guy.
As for helping someone learn the game, I actually enjoy it. For one thing, as I go over stuff, especially ACM, it reinforces in my own brain. Over time we often forget some of the basic lessons of success. Teaching helps remind me of what I need to remember.
But even more so, I get to meet, and have recruited, many a good guy just by offering to answer a few questions, or show him how not to get killed so fast.
This was the first case I've seen where it seems some vets were really trying to seriously jerk a newb around.
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how do you know they were vets did the guy say there names? how would a new player knows a vet from another new player?
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Guys, I was simply relating what happened as I heard and saw it. Wasn't intended as a Knit-bash. I'm sure there are dweebs in every country. And, just to be fair, the knits involved may have had better or worse intentions, but we'll never know not having heard directly what was said to the new guy.
As for helping someone learn the game, I actually enjoy it. For one thing, as I go over stuff, especially ACM, it reinforces in my own brain. Over time we often forget some of the basic lessons of success. Teaching helps remind me of what I need to remember.
But even more so, I get to meet, and have recruited, many a good guy just by offering to answer a few questions, or show him how not to get killed so fast.
This was the first case I've seen where it seems some vets were really trying to seriously jerk a newb around.
Don't let some people get to you. you did the right thing by helping out a new guy.
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Some people believe hazing is king when it comes to new people.
Last week rooks had a guy who played Air Warrior but not since and was unaware of the learning curve. Pretty cool to see other rooks help him out and the next day he even logged his first air kill.
If I see some brand new guy come on and someone start with the hazing I try to get him on squad VOX (most don't have headsets yet) and answer whatever questions he/they have. We never recruit this way, but it does spread good will months or years down the road.
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That's how you do it Sloehand :aok It's hard to convince new comers that the Training Arena is where they can get up to speed fast, but a few friendly suggestions to noobs and then the gentle push :ahand towards the TA I believe will help to keep the roster growing. :salute Fellow AH addicts.
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That's how you do it Sloehand :aok It's hard to convince new comers that the Training Arena is where they can get up to speed fast, but a few friendly suggestions to noobs and then the gentle push :ahand towards the TA I believe will help to keep the roster growing. :salute Fellow AH addicts.
This has bothered me for quite some time. Telling a new player to go to the TA, a large percentage of the time, results in him logging in to the TA to find... Nobody there. Or nobody there who can or will help. The correct answer, in my opinion, is to direct the new player to this section of the forums, or the Trainers site, where he can start a thread asking for a Trainer.
Just saying, go to the TA is much of the time going to result in the new guy wondering how an empty Training Arena is supposed to solve all of his problems.
My opinion would be different if there were Trainers available 24/7 in the TA.
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Good job slowhand!!
Seems to be a lot more dead wood on these days.
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how do you know they were vets did the guy say there names? how would a new player knows a vet from another new player?
I used the term "vet" myself simply to differentiate them from a "newbie". They obviously had more time in the game that the newb, if even only by days or hours.
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This has bothered me for quite some time. Telling a new player to go to the TA, a large percentage of the time, results in him logging in to the TA to find... Nobody there. Or nobody there who can or will help. The correct answer, in my opinion, is to direct the new player to this section of the forums, or the Trainers site, where he can start a thread asking for a Trainer.
Just saying, go to the TA is much of the time going to result in the new guy wondering how an empty Training Arena is supposed to solve all of his problems.
My opinion would be different if there were Trainers available 24/7 in the TA.
I usually offer to go with the guy to the TA to show him what I was doing, or he was/wasn't doing, that got him killed. I tell them they can't die in there and that will often entice them to check it out. Further discuss lets me tell them about AH Trainers, the Dueling Arena, FSO, Scenarios, the Racing League, etc.
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I used the term "vet" myself simply to differentiate them from a "newbie". They obviously had more time in the game that the newb, if even only by days or hours.
ahhhh ok gotcha :aok
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Thank you Sloehand :aok
When we came here from FA we witnessed much the same thing and at first I was kind of offended.
nowI can sort of understand it though answering the same questions time and time again for someone that is probably just tryin it for two weeks can get old.maybe some sort message to people that are on the free trial directing them to a trainer and or training time? I always try to help but some players are very difficult to teach depending on their age,computer perephials in use etc.my feelings on the hazing telling someone the Alt f4 is humerous a few times,tellin em to hit enter 3x to do something special sure what the heck,but tellin them to kill the radar nomatter what,teaching bad tactics thats just poor taste IMHO
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Oh lord, really? Its a tradition to mess with the "newbs" like that. Hell, I got all the tricks pulled on me when I started.
Pat yourself on the back sloe. Im cooking up some cookies. Want one?
If you do this to someone on their first night, then you're a tool no matter how you try to disguise or
justify it.
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We found one person who was giving him bad info... :lol
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I'm sure you know someone who could tell him exactly,when,where and how to do things. :D
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Very good Sloehand.
I really despise the attitude that causes people to try to drive out new players that way. I have spent hours with new players, trying to help them get their feet under them, both in the MA and the TA.
Oh, "alt-F4" and variations thereof should be added to the profanity filter. :devil
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I just began my subscriptions a few days ago and i have played with some cool people in AvA and in MW and it is funny to see some other people trolling more then playing. funny in a sad way.
Also sometimes i go on a situation where i cant understand what some person said and i ask for them to repeat some times, im really sorry about that guys.. its just that it has been some times that i dont hear and speak english except from movies wich are easier to understand then from a conversation thru the voice radio
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if you could pm his name that would be nice. Thanks and salute
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Began my subscription a week ago, thanks to the Rooks giving me the Alt + F4 advice, I went knit. So far everyones been just awesome to fly with, whether its FB, 68th, AK or the many other squads (these are just a few recently I winged with daily). While I get the joke some think they are Aces, in reality its a video game and some of us are just trying to learn, it doesn't hurt to tell someone what the command for dive breaks are.
Its one thing to ask "How do I fly my plane" - which needs the TA, however other advice like difference between AP and HE would really help a player out.
Believe it or not, some haven't played war games like some of us have.
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Glad you helped him and even happier he went bish. :)
I hate it when people mess with new guys. Yeah you can rattle with them but in the end overdoing it drives them away from the already small community.
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WTG sloehand, it's always cool from the new guy's perspective to have someone teaching them how to fly.
i remember my first day, in April of 2009, and i was fortunate enough to have both Fudgums and ThndrEGG (same country at the time, although not working together) take me under their wing and teach me most of the game. it was on my 5th day of flight that i learned i was allowed to switch countrys, which i did, to bish. Lo and behold, it was the knits that gave me a hard time when i wanted to learn something.
So, i always find it imparative to take a new guy and fly a sortie or two with him, to teach him the game. i remember one enthusiastic young man (for the life of me i can't remember his tag) who was getting a real hard time from the community, and i took him in a spit8 (in my opinion the best training aircraft in the game). i feel like i did a good job, because after a few training flights we flew a combat sortie, and he scored his first ever kill! that is the best feeling in the world when you see the person YOU more or less trained succeeding in the game. i wish more of them had mics, though.....
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Began my subscription a week ago, thanks to the Rooks giving me the Alt + F4 advice, I went knit. So far everyones been just awesome to fly with, whether its FB, 68th, AK or the many other squads (these are just a few recently I winged with daily). While I get the joke some think they are Aces, in reality its a video game and some of us are just trying to learn, it doesn't hurt to tell someone what the command for dive breaks are.
Its one thing to ask "How do I fly my plane" - which needs the TA, however other advice like difference between AP and HE would really help a player out.
Believe it or not, some haven't played war games like some of us have.
butcher, you ever see me on hit me up with any questions you may have i don't know if anyones told you but AP = armor piercing good for GV's and the occasional low flying plane HE= high explosive, good for buildings, hangers, etc in case you didn't know, if you did i apologise
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:salute Sloehand
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Began my subscription a week ago, thanks to the Rooks giving me the Alt + F4 advice, I went knit. So far everyones been just awesome to fly with, whether its FB, 68th, AK or the many other squads (these are just a few recently I winged with daily). While I get the joke some think they are Aces, in reality its a video game and some of us are just trying to learn, it doesn't hurt to tell someone what the command for dive breaks are.
Its one thing to ask "How do I fly my plane" - which needs the TA, however other advice like difference between AP and HE would really help a player out.
Believe it or not, some haven't played war games like some of us have.
Hey Butcher :salute I am AKZoney in game. I have seen you around quite a bit bud. You are doing great! Anything you need let me know. Glad you are here sir.
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Ah, the ol' "use alt-f4" and other such misinformation for new guys. Duh huh, huh, huh! What a knee slapper! Thank god there are still people in the game who can withstand being looked down upon as childlike dullards in order to keep 5th grade alive for us all.
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If you do this to someone on their first night, then you're a tool no matter how you try to disguise or
justify it.
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Define the word tool plz.
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If you do this to someone on their first night, then you're a tool no matter how you try to disguise or
justify it.
You're right. I propose all First Nighters have a visible label showing they are First Nighters so evil vets will not make the mistake of thinking they are Second Nighters and haze them.
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WTG SloeHand. :aok :salute
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wtg.. :salute
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You're right. I propose all First Nighters have a visible label showing they are First Nighters so evil vets will not make the mistake of thinking they are Second Nighters and haze them.
If only there were a good way to haze everyone including vets -- man, that would be great!
Granted, the "use alt-f4" works for quite a while. Heck, I was falling for it for at least the first year I was on Aces High. But we need something that keeps working. Maybe harassing people on the radio with taunts like "You're a loser!" followed by "Heh, that's what a loser would say!" and then repeated replies of "says the loser." Things like that? I don't know. I think we need to brainstorm it.
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Being messed with as a newb is a part of Aces High and video games in general. My first tour I asked how do you select planes and some one said you type ".plane ###" and gave me the plane number for the C202 an said I had to earn better planes as I went along "It would let me know when I earned a new one." :rofl
So my first kill and my first tour were in the C202.
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Define the word tool plz.
I agree. I'm pretty sure the word "tool" is either totally made up or has so many meanings that you just can't tell what someone is saying when using that word. For example, I typed "tool" into Google, and something about a musical group came up. What does a musical group have to do with all of this? Maybe he meant to have an "s" in front of it. I think I saw a spare "s" lingering around somewhere in one of these posts as if it were unintentionally detatched from its intended home. I could be wrong, though, as who knows what is going on once musical groups are involved.
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Being messed with as a newb is a part of Aces High and video game in general. My first tour I asked how do you select planes and some one said you type ".plane ###" and gave me the plane number for the C202 an said I had to earn better planes as I went along and It would let me know when I earned a new one. :rofl
So my first kill and my first tour were in the C202.
That's lame. The C.202 is a decent plane. He should have given you the B5N.
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HE works well on planes. You shoot the ground as he passes low over you on the way out. :bolt:
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i had to learn or myself at first
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I am a squeeker. If ANYONE tryies to pick on me I ask them to the DA, then once we get in the DA I choose the G-14 and show them that squeekers can kill thier elders. Also whenever we get a new recrute in our squad that doesn't really know the 109 I try to teach him the best I can. I only really ever fly rooks and nits, Normally I see that behavior from other countries, but occasslionaly I see it from nits. But never this bad.
wtg Slo ~S~
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I saw that event Slohand the other night and tried to offer help but there were too many guys offering purposefully bad advice.
I was glad to see him switch to another color and hope he stays long enough to put it to the guys who gave him the bad advice.
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I tried out ww2ol once, and was new and asking newbie questions, and the funny thing is, when I spawned far away from the battle, someone instantly told me that I could get into the action, and proceded to get people on the country channel to help find me some combat, I asked some questions in there too, the funny thing is, that none of the answers I got were alt F4, they were more like, here ... is what you need to do, and this is what you do to do it, if you have any questions, pm me or anyone from my squad any time and we will help you...
now I know there are lots of people in AH that do this, but as a whole community I was shocked to see how civilised everyone was, instead of all the folks who's attitude it "HTC sucks for not adding ... into the game" it was more like, " hey guys, wouldnt it be cool if we ever got .... " maybe one day when everybody (including myself) can act like this AH will take off and become a real internet sensation like it deservs to be,
( on a side note, remove the abillity for players on different countrys to talk to each other, it will help a bunch!!!)
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:salute Sloehand :salute
I get sick and tired of seeing the "Alt-F4" from folks.....I am sure that it turns quite a few new folks away from the game. Think about it, what purpose does it serve to tell someone this? It creates frustration AND really serves to hurt the community as a whole.
Perhaps when this occurs, the person that gives the "Alt-F4" advice should be muted for a bit.
Just a thought....
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Define the word tool plz.
Tool: n. Someone who is useless and idiotic in all aspects.
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Define the word tool plz.
Urbandictionary.com will have your definition!
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I guess I was one of the lucky ones.
The first person I encountered in the game was Yenny.
Nuff said......................... ...
<S> Bellator
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This isn't a chesspiece thing, I started as nit and found plenty of nice folks to help. The problem was all those tools on the rook and bish sides who kept shooting me down! :lol
New players are the only thing that will keep this or any other game going. A little razzing is all good fun, but abuse all the new folks and make sure their playing experience is a miserable one and you'll see subscriptions dwindle and our favorite game eventually die off.
Butcher, do you fly under that game ID? If so you either had some previous online flight sim experience or are a very fast learner!
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Began my subscription a week ago
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The first time I fell for alt+f4 it wasn't directed at me. I saw someone ask how to get lead computing gunsight in p51, and someone told him to alt+f4.
I thought it was pretty funny, but I was 11.
Says something about the people who like alt+f4ing noobs.
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The point of this is, I was appalled that veteran players would jerk around a new guy like that (there was other inaccurate "advice" as well). And this guy was NOT a kid. In fact, he was older than most of us and very interested in learning the new game he'd just found. Frankly, even though they were Knits, I'm was a bit ashamed of for the community as a whole. This is not what we need to keep the game alive and fun.
Around 2004 and a bit prior, "kid humor" began to predominate. School yard stuff. BBS reflected the change too. Well as along as there's some grown ups like you Sloe we in good stead still.
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Hence the reason our rotation into Knitland, which is scheduled for 2 months, normally only last a month or less. Although we try to get along with everyone, the knits seem to have an overabundance of arrogant @%%hol
If we Knights have so many arrogant individuals,you could just skip the Nits on your rotation!I've flown for all three chess pieces,and believe me there are just as many arrogant,non six calling,kill stealing,vulgar,etc, on each chess piece!
Dobey
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This guy was upping M4's repeatedly
How does a newb have enough perks to up an m4 repeatedly? :headscratch:
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WTG Sloehand, we need more like you :salute
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Tool: n. Someone who is useless and idiotic in all aspects.
Im thinking something else. But, good try.
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Began my subscription a week ago, thanks to the Rooks giving me the Alt + F4 advice, I went knit. So far everyones been just awesome to fly with, whether its FB, 68th, AK or the many other squads (these are just a few recently I winged with daily). While I get the joke some think they are Aces, in reality its a video game and some of us are just trying to learn, it doesn't hurt to tell someone what the command for dive breaks are.
Its one thing to ask "How do I fly my plane" - which needs the TA, however other advice like difference between AP and HE would really help a player out.
Believe it or not, some haven't played war games like some of us have.
If the sun ever gets too hot, just get under the nearest shade tree :aok
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I remember when i was new, I was in a Mission and someone asked how to calibrate their bombsite and some said use ALT + F4 for laser guided bombs, something like that. Well i hit ALT + F4, i was in that flight for about 45 min I believed. Was mad at first but got over it. Good Times... Good Times.
I hate seeing tho ALT + F4 Trick been used on the new guys, all ya need is for him to switch countries or leave for good and later possibly becoming a Great Stick. I try to help the new out the best i can. I even help this one guy out for about 3 hours I believe. I'm not the best here to teach a new guy the tricks but if no one will, ill try my best.
<S> Sloehand
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I don't think I've ever used the Alt-F4 line, but it is possible. I have a theory on it.
There was a time when being online, being in an online community, and playing games online in that community took a predefined level of skill. There was an intellectual prerequisite that meant you earned your place to be there. You were technically savvy enough to do this, so you belonged. Things changed. Partly Microsoft and Apple's fault for making getting online so idiot-proof.
I don't see the Alt-F4 as a 2nd grade humor. I don't see it as children repeating it. It's old-school. The older folks are doing it and perpetuating it. It stems from a time when you had to actually know how to dial in with a modem or fill-in-the-blank. Now every foul-mouthed 8-year-old with an ego complex is filling the game and forums, I see the Alt-F4 resurgence as a reaction to this. I see it as... possibly... a way of getting back at those that don't belong. Perhaps there's an element of elitism in there. Perhaps it's also about retaining the "good old times"... And perhaps it's also about teaching these young people they don't know it all and that maybe there's a lot they have yet to learn.
I think all of those combined play a major part.
At least, that's my pet theory.
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How does a newb have enough perks to up an m4 repeatedly? :headscratch:
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...stuff...
At least, that's my pet theory.
Thinking back to my earliest online experiences, that's a pretty plausible theory. They're still jackwagons, but it's a plausible theory.
Computers and video games have gotten popular, our hobby is no longer niche or special. LWI.
Wiley.
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The point of this is, I was appalled that veteran players would jerk around a new guy like that (there was other inaccurate "advice" as well). And this guy was NOT a kid. In fact, he was older than most of us and very interested in learning the new game he'd just found. Frankly, even though they were Knits, I'm was a bit ashamed of for the community as a whole. This is not what we need to keep the game alive and fun.
Hmm the "cesspool" manifests itself. And oh how well the split arenas has cured it for us.
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Hmm the "cesspool" manifests itself. And oh how well the split arenas has cured it for us.
actually you can have a "cesspool" with only 2 people.
semp
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actually you can have a "cesspool" with only 2 people.
semp
I agree completely!