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Title: Independent E6B
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 09, 2011, 06:53:38 PM
I'd like to be able to have an E6B not attached to the clipboard.  It'd be nice to have it available at the same place and the same size whenever I need to reference it with a simple on/off switch without having to tinker with the clipboard.  Leave the clipboard for maps and charts, etc.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: MachFly on April 09, 2011, 07:05:58 PM
You know you don't have to close the E6B (keep it open all the time) just press escape and it will appear and disappear with the whole clipboard.

Also in reality you almost never use an E6B in a cockpit unless you have an navigator or a copilot.


I know a few people here who keep a real E6B next to their computer to easier use (and it has a lot more functions), perhaps you want to look into that.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: Delirium on April 09, 2011, 07:11:34 PM
This has been requested before, sort of like the damage display is done within AH.

+1
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 09, 2011, 07:39:47 PM
This has been requested before, sort of like the damage display is done within AH.

+1

Exactly.  TAS, IAS, Climb, Range, and Time Remaining (of flight) is all we'd need.  A quick reference just like the damage display.   
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 09, 2011, 07:48:39 PM
You know you don't have to close the E6B (keep it open all the time) just press escape and it will appear and disappear with the whole clipboard.

Also in reality you almost never use an E6B in a cockpit unless you have an navigator or a copilot.


I know a few people here who keep a real E6B next to their computer to easier use (and it has a lot more functions), perhaps you want to look into that.

The little cardboard E6B I was given when I started flying lessons... would be more of a hassle than clicking on the clipboard.  :lol   and fighter pilots had an E6B on their "knee board" and used it quite a bit especially in the PTO.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: gyrene81 on April 09, 2011, 09:01:05 PM
and fighter pilots had an E6B on their "knee board" and used it quite a bit especially in the PTO.
well if you're going to go by that...


TAS, IAS, Climb
all available on the instrument panel...so no need to have it in a "quick reference"...wasn't on the e6b the pilots had on their knees.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: Tec on April 09, 2011, 09:36:51 PM
Since smartphone integration is all the rage these days we just need an app that ports the clipboard to your phone.  Then we can up the dweebery by wearing our phones as knee boards and always have our maps and e6b handy.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: Delirium on April 09, 2011, 11:01:11 PM
Since smartphone integration is all the rage these days we just need an app that ports the clipboard to your phone.  Then we can up the dweebery by wearing our phones as knee boards and always have our maps and e6b handy.

Way ahead of you... I have the scenario map with all the routes and radio channels on my smart phone for many past scenarios already.   :joystick:
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: Spikes on April 09, 2011, 11:07:02 PM
Also in reality you almost never use an E6B in a cockpit unless you have an navigator or a copilot.
Good thing this isn't reality.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 09, 2011, 11:27:40 PM
well if you're going to go by that...

all available on the instrument panel...so no need to have it in a "quick reference"...wasn't on the e6b the pilots had on their knees.

True.  Then perhaps would should have them removed from the E6B on the clipboard?  The time remaining and range would be nice though. 
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: colmbo on April 09, 2011, 11:44:13 PM


Also in reality you almost never use an E6B in a cockpit unless you have an navigator or a copilot.



Maybe you don't...I sure as heck did since I suck at doing math in my head....
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: MachFly on April 10, 2011, 11:01:27 AM
The little cardboard E6B I was given when I started flying lessons... would be more of a hassle than clicking on the clipboard.  :lol   and fighter pilots had an E6B on their "knee board" and used it quite a bit especially in the PTO.

I think if you get used to it you can use it as fast as a calculator, and the batteries never run out! One guy told me a few month ago "I bought mine [E6B] 40 years ago and the batteries still have not ran out". But I do understand that it does take a lot of time to learn to use it fast and for most people it's just not worth it. Depending on what kind of phone you have you can get a free E6B application. If you have a blackberry or an android phone I can help you find one.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for having more options on the ingame E6B, it's just that HTC will take some time to make it and I don't think you want to wait long.


Your right fighter pilots probably did use the E6B in PTO (I did not think of that), but they don't fly alone. One pilot could afford to put his head down to do the calculations while others scan for enemy aircraft.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: MachFly on April 10, 2011, 11:03:13 AM
Maybe you don't...I sure as heck did since I suck at doing math in my head....

Do you use it under IFR? Because you can't really afford to put your head down while under VFR (Need to be scanning for traffic).
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: curry1 on April 10, 2011, 08:58:19 PM
I think if you get used to it you can use it as fast as a calculator, and the batteries never run out! One guy told me a few month ago "I bought mine [E6B] 40 years ago and the batteries still have not ran out". But I do understand that it does take a lot of time to learn to use it fast and for most people it's just not worth it. Depending on what kind of phone you have you can get a free E6B application. If you have a blackberry or an android phone I can help you find one.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for having more options on the ingame E6B, it's just that HTC will take some time to make it and I don't think you want to wait long.


Your right fighter pilots probably did use the E6B in PTO (I did not think of that), but they don't fly alone. One pilot could afford to put his head down to do the calculations while others scan for enemy aircraft.

Its not like P51s had to scan for aircraft when they were cruising on their way to Japan hundreds of miles out.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: colmbo on April 10, 2011, 11:13:31 PM
Do you use it under IFR? Because you can't really afford to put your head down while under VFR (Need to be scanning for traffic).

Rarely IFR, it only takes a moment to spin the wheel and check time/distance/speed stuff...not like you're head down for any length of time.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: Tupac on April 10, 2011, 11:22:51 PM
Rarely IFR, it only takes a moment to spin the wheel and check time/distance/speed stuff...not like you're head down for any length of time.

This, I use it quite often in VFR for computing groundspeed
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: MachFly on April 11, 2011, 03:40:34 AM
Its not like P51s had to scan for aircraft when they were cruising on their way to Japan hundreds of miles out.

Yes they did....


You ever tried flying in AH without looking for enemy fighters?
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: MachFly on April 11, 2011, 03:58:30 AM
Rarely IFR, it only takes a moment to spin the wheel and check time/distance/speed stuff...not like you're head down for any length of time.

Well I guess you can do that. I usually approximate those things to +/-2min (or +/-5min for greater distances) given my groundspeed it correct.

This, I use it quite often in VFR for computing groundspeed

How? To do that you need your winds, if your aircraft can tell you the winds than it can also tell you your groundspeed, if you don't have your winds than you need to use the winds that you checked before T/O therefore you might as well get your GS before T/O. The winds you ask the tower are on the deck, you can also ask FSS but they can only tell you the forecast which you could have got before T/O yourself. 
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: colmbo on April 11, 2011, 08:05:53 AM
Well I guess you can do that. I usually approximate those things to +/-2min (or +/-5min for greater distances) given my groundspeed it correct.

How? To do that you need your winds, if your aircraft can tell you the winds than it can also tell you your groundspeed, if you don't have your winds than you need to use the winds that you checked before T/O therefore you might as well get your GS before T/O. The winds you ask the tower are on the deck, you can also ask FSS but they can only tell you the forecast which you could have got before T/O yourself. 

You don't need the wind for groudspeed...you only need the time between two points.  Back to the books for you!!  :D
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: MachFly on April 11, 2011, 08:10:30 AM
You don't need the wind for groudspeed...you only need the time between two points.  Back to the books for you!!  :D

Oh that kind of GS, I thought he was talking about the current GS. Your right that would work.

My avionics tell me all that stuff these days so I don't really have to calculate it  :bolt:
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: icepac on April 11, 2011, 03:41:37 PM
I keep one of these in my car in case the opportunity to fly comes up unexpectedly.

Just an extra formula or two vs the E6B.

(http://sliderulemuseum.com/HSRC/38751.jpg)

Aluminum E6B sure don't like the salt air near the florida coast.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: MachFly on April 11, 2011, 04:53:23 PM
I keep one of these in my car in case the opportunity to fly comes up unexpectedly.

Just an extra formula or two vs the E6B.

(http://sliderulemuseum.com/HSRC/38751.jpg)

Aluminum E6B sure don't like the salt air near the florida coast.

That's not an E6B, it's called CR3 (CR5 in your case)  :D
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: icepac on April 11, 2011, 06:33:48 PM

Just an extra formula or two vs the E6B.


Yes, I know the difference which I why I contrasted it's utilty vs the E6B.
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: icepac on April 11, 2011, 06:35:42 PM
double post...
Title: Re: Independent E6B
Post by: MachFly on April 11, 2011, 06:37:45 PM


Right, I'm an idiot.

 :bolt:



I really like it's front side, but I can never get used to the back. E6B is so much easier to use for the winds.