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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Penguin on June 30, 2011, 09:45:25 PM
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I've been wondering, have I lost my edge when it comes to public speaking? I can no longer deliver the grandiose oration that I have in my past. Perhaps I had reached my peak, or perhaps my lack of study in the area has left me without feedback, focus and purpose.
My lack of eye contact astounds me, and my current speeches draw little more than a clap. Perhaps some of you have a history in politics or oral debate, and could help me get out of my rut.
-Penguin
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You're boring. Enough said.
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I've been wondering, have I lost my edge when it comes to public speaking? I can no longer deliver the grandiose oration that I have in my past. Perhaps I had reached my peak, or perhaps my lack of study in the area has left me without feedback, focus and purpose.
My lack of eye contact astounds me, and my current speeches draw little more than a clap. Perhaps some of you have a history in politics or oral debate, and could help me get out of my rut.
-Penguin
You become more wise and more mature with age. You say less and try not to impress as much because you realize it is pointless to do so...you try to say more with less...
so yes, you have lost that edge...and no, it will not come back.
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As you get older, more is expected from you. Also, your audience gets more apathetic as high school goes on.
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Ouch, that's not a good prognosis. :( However, it's not as if I haven't been aptly rewarded for my past efforts:
I've achieved fame across my school, even being featured on the Comedy Central website
My past speeches and audio recordings are used as course material by my previous school
After my first motivational speech, a girl in my class said "I wanted to go into space with you" (the speech was about a ficticious colonization effort on another world)
No, it's not that I don't enjoy it. Perhaps something else is the case.
As you get older, more is expected from you. Also, your audience gets more apathetic as high school goes on.
More is expected? I see, so I have to work harder, then? If it's effort they're after, then I will give them excess of it. If I could find a good instructor I'd be set. But wait! Apathy? It's the bane of any speaker, are you certain that this will be the case? :uhoh
-Penguin
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Ouch, that's not a good prognosis. :( However, it's not as if I haven't been aptly rewarded for my past efforts:
I've achieved fame across my school, even being featured on the Comedy Central website
My past speeches and audio recordings are used as course material by my previous school
After my first motivational speech, a girl in my class said "I wanted to go into space with you" (the speech was about a ficticious colonization effort on another world)
No, it's not that I don't enjoy it. Perhaps something else is the case.
More is expected? I see, so I have to work harder, then? If it's effort they're after, then I will give them excess of it. If I could find a good instructor I'd be set. But wait! Apathy? It's the bane of any speaker, are you certain that this will be the case? :uhoh
-Penguin
Of course you have to work harder as you get older. Heck, I was one of the best orators in my high school, but only managed to get a C in my college speech class. Of course though, getting through to high school students can be very difficult.
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More work, oof. That's not a dealbreaker, no way. I have the energy, I just need a way to channel it into helping me improve. If only I had a captive audience. What do you mean by getting through to them? Are we pig-headed (which I can understand) or are we simply incapable of understanding the meaning of a speech?
-Penguin
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Your edge is fine, but as penguins can't fly, you've apparently chosen the wrong audience to orate to.
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Now that is a witty use of my forum name. :lol
-Penguin
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Get a girl friend, you'll care less about impressing the public and more about impressing her. Though speeches will not win a girls heart I might ad :lol
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Get a girl friend, you'll care less about impressing the public and more about impressing her. Though speeches will not win a girls heart I might ad :lol
Ya, listen to stud muffin here
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Depends on your audience.
If same age or younger, perhaps you come across as pretentious and condescending.
If older, maybe annoyingly precocious.
It's just a fact that you "Philosopher Kings" can rub folks the wrong way.
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As you get older you'll be even less impressed with yourself. Delusions of grandeur are a common trait among adolescents. As you experience more and more of life you'll find that you're not all that. Judging by the braggadocio in this thread, you've still got a long ways to go, but you're starting to get a clue.
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Do you mean that I've still got a long way to go to losing all interest in public speaking?
-Penguin
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Hey, sound waves do not propagate in space. I would go with you for that reason too :rofl
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I've been wondering, have I lost my edge when it comes to public speaking? I can no longer deliver the grandiose oration that I have in my past. Perhaps I had reached my peak, or perhaps my lack of study in the area has left me without feedback, focus and purpose.
My lack of eye contact astounds me, and my current speeches draw little more than a clap. Perhaps some of you have a history in politics or oral debate, and could help me get out of my rut.
-Penguin
Your getting older. To put it in perspective, everyone loves a puppy. People will stop what they are doing to play with, pet, or just spend some time with a pup. Your at the point where your just another middle aged dog and nobody really wants to hear your barking. If you want to get your audience to focus on you, your gonna need to find yourself a super hotty to hold your leash.
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You're* getting older. To put it in perspective, everyone loves a puppy. People will stop what they are doing to play with, pet, or just spend some time with a pup. You're at the point where you're just another middle aged dog and nobody really wants to hear your barking. If you want to get your audience to focus on you, you're gonna need to find yourself a super hotty to hold your leash.
fixed. :neener:
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fixed. :neener:
:furious
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fixed. :neener:
:rofl
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A speech should be about the message, not about how smart you are. Keep it simple, keep it as short as possible, and keep it honest.
There are those speeches in history that are quoted in their entirety, and there are other speeches that are completely forgotten save a few choice lines.
Aim to write the former.
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I have a feeling that in the past, people clapped and cheered due to the fact that you had finally stopped talking. The applause is more tempered now since they have come to the realization that, in fact NO, you never actually stop talking.....
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I didn't even know you were shaving yet.
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I've been wondering, have I lost my edge when it comes to public speaking? I can no longer deliver the grandiose oration that I have in my past. Perhaps I had reached my peak, or perhaps my lack of study in the area has left me without feedback, focus and purpose.
My lack of eye contact astounds me, and my current speeches draw little more than a clap. Perhaps some of you have a history in politics or oral debate, and could help me get out of my rut.
-Penguin
Your ego and complatency probably got the better of you. Always remain humble and aspire to improve. Always.
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From what I've read of some of your posts on here, most of your writing is just a lot of fluff, and intellectual feather strutting, without much substance.
If you feel you've lost your "edge", might I suggest that perhaps you never had any "edge" to begin with, and that maybe you where only being deceived by your own ego. I'm not trying to be rude or condescending at all. We all need a reality check from time to time, maybe this "losing your edge" stuff is part of yours.
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Your ego and complatency probably got the better of you. Always remain humble and aspire to improve. Always.
Ego? I can see that. Complacency? I don't know what you mean by that; do you mean that I ought to practice? How do I practice without rehearsing?
-Penguin
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I've been wondering, have I lost my edge when it comes to public speaking? I can no longer deliver the grandiose oration that I have in my past. Perhaps I had reached my peak, or perhaps my lack of study in the area has left me without feedback, focus and purpose.
My lack of eye contact astounds me, and my current speeches draw little more than a clap. Perhaps some of you have a history in politics or oral debate, and could help me get out of my rut.
-Penguin
You sure haven't lost that "full of yourself" blather.
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Maybe it's a sign you should STFU and listen more.
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Hey, sound waves do not propagate in space. I would go with you for that reason too :rofl
:rofl :aok
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What are all the flames for?
-Penguin
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What are all the flames for?
-Penguin
People just giving you the recognition you so richly deserve ....or don't you want that?
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I still don't get it, I've been flamed in other threads and it made sense. In this one, I said in so many words, "I used to be good at public speaking, now I suck, any ideas?". I guess I boasted.
-Penguin
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didnt reead through all the pages, and im sure its been said, but as you gain fame and people start to get to know it, youll need to work harder to impress them. with higher fame comes higher expections.
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So you're saying that I need to practice more. Right, but on whom? Or what?
-Penguin
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So you're saying that I need to practice more. Right, but on whom? Or what?
-Penguin
Practice Silence. You talk too much and say too little.
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What are all the flames for?
-Penguin
Sorry about my part in that.
I think my point was that when intelligent, well read individuals speak, they need to guard against projecting an air of intellectual superiority as that can be a turn off.
Whether that applies in your case, I cannot say.
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Part of public speeches are being flamed out anyway, you have to be able to handle it and stand your ground.
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What are all the flames for?
-Penguin
Because you are trying way too hard to prove how smart and mature you are. You also come off as a self-absorbed know-it-all. You may be smarter than the average bear, but quit going out of your way to convince everyone of that. Your posts seemed forced, like you are trying to project yourself as more than you really are. I apologize for the harshness, but sugar coating it won't help you. Stop trying to impress people.
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Because you are trying way too hard to prove how smart and mature you are. You also come off as a self-absorbed know-it-all. You may be smarter than the average bear, but quit going out of your way to convince everyone of that. Your posts seemed forced, like you are trying to project yourself as more than you really are. I apologize for the harshness, but sugar coating it won't help you. Stop trying to impress people.
That goes with the human condition theroy I made :lol Every person is going to want to be better than the guy next to him, but self control and restraint would always be nice to consider Penguin.
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Just be sure and give the Berlinetta a good wash this weekend.
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Just be sure and give the Berlinetta a good wash this weekend.
:rofl :rofl
:rofl
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So you're saying that I need to practice more. Right, but on whom? Or what?
-Penguin
you can, but in the end.......haters gonna hate. No matter how hard you try, before you walk into the room you can bet somebody straight chugged 2 gallons of this shi and they gotta let if spew on somebody so bring an umbrella.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k287/bagrat/6JjOM7tz2j6GmER3TNfl8oBFgjGB.jpg)
it's in em'
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What we're saying, summed up : Go get banned again.
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That's not even funny, and I can laugh at some messed up things.
-Penguin
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My son likes cherry tomatoes.
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:lol
-Penguin
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You can't obtain an edge until you're sharp. You can't get a sharp, until you have an ex. or is that a shark....
Rash
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btw...just seen an aces high commercial. the one "are you up for the challenge"
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Military channel.
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What we're saying, summed up : Go get banned again.
Funny, Could have sworn you were gone for a week. :rofl
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So you're saying that I need to practice more. Right, but on whom? Or what?
-Penguin
Seems to me you've got all the audience you need. I would suggest however that based on your postings here, you very much enjoy hearing yourself talk or seeing your words in print. At the same time, I must confess that my eyes start to blur over when I see you've posted something else as I really don't believe you have a lot to say.
Not trying to be mean about it, that's just my first response.
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Penguin.
Quite simply. Use your brain, not whats in it.
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Seems to me you've got all the audience you need. I would suggest however that based on your postings here, you very much enjoy hearing yourself talk or seeing your words in print. At the same time, I must confess that my eyes start to blur over when I see you've posted something else as I really don't believe you have a lot to say.
Not trying to be mean about it, that's just my first response.
thinkin back.. the bold i have to agree with. i dont know what your speeches sound like, but theyre long, monotnos, and dont really cut to the point your audience is not going to be interested. a good speech is long enough to fill the time limit, short enough to get the point across, funny enough to keep the audience focused on you, and guess what....it doesnt sytray from the topic at hand.
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Seems to me you've got all the audience you need. I would suggest however that based on your postings here, you very much enjoy hearing yourself talk or seeing your words in print. At the same time, I must confess that my eyes start to blur over when I see you've posted something else as I really don't believe you have a lot to say.
Not trying to be mean about it, that's just my first response.
Yup. The young man has a future in politics :aok
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Penguin you always appear to be talking down to people...
you know with that condescending tone in the majority of your posts.
If you're doing that with with public speaking ... well I'd guess people would grow tired of that fairly quick. Try toning down the condescending rhetoric and add some simple substance. What do I know about it... I'm just a troll to some. Those some would be the smug, selfabsorbed knowitalls who just hate to be told their poop does in fact stink. The majority though are the PNGed shades that get outed.
I'll leave it to you to figure what group you belong to.
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Oof, that's harsh. Now I have to figure out how to not come across that way.
-Penguin
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Oof, that's harsh. Now I have to figure out how to not come across that way.
-Penguin
Good examples to emulate would be widewing and guppy. Those are just off the top of my head. A prime example of whom not to emulate a majority of the time would be krusty. Take a look a the posting styles of those I listed and see who you come across most like. If you can't figure that out... just look at who gets the most grief.
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That's not even funny, and I can laugh at some messed up things.
-Penguin
I hope it wasn't funny, I was dead serious.
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Then get off my back.
-Penguin
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I've read a lot of post by you. I have yet to be moved or impressed.
You seem to be so impressed with yourself I don't why you bother worrying about what anybody thinks.
However if you're really looking for a target audience to impress, I have a suggestion.
(http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/lens9006021_1288751999penguin-girl.jpg)
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Penguin you always appear to be talking down to people...
you know with that condescending tone in the majority of your posts.
If you're doing that with with public speaking ... well I'd guess people would grow tired of that fairly quick. Try toning down the condescending rhetoric and add some simple substance. What do I know about it... I'm just a troll to some. Those some would be the smug, selfabsorbed knowitalls who just hate to be told their poop does in fact stink. The majority though are the PNGed shades that get outed.
I'll leave it to you to figure what group you belong to.
Hmmm...WHO in politics do we know like THAT.... :bolt:
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Then get off my back.
-Penguin
The problem is you cultivated that type of response ... now you complain when you get it.
Wonder why that is?
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When my now 24 year old daughter was 4, she came into the room one day and proclaimed that she 'knew everything."
My wife and I laughed and asked her what she meant. She replied "I can't think of anything I don't know that I can't remember."
It was such a profound statement for a four year old that we wrote it down so we could remind her of it over the years.
You remind me of that comment. It's excusable in a four year old :)
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I've read a of of post by you. I have yet to be moved or impressed.
You seem to be so impressed with yourself I don't why you bother worrying about what anybody thinks.
However if you're really looking for a target audience to impress, I have a suggestion.
(http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/lens9006021_1288751999penguin-girl.jpg)
:lol
Same picture with subtitles:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/pengie.jpg)
Penguin, just the thread title alone speaks volumes of your ego.
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:lol
Same picture with subtitles:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/pengie.jpg)
:rofl :rofl :rofl