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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MK-84 on July 27, 2011, 03:09:41 PM
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I would like to see who has killed one so far, and what you were in, and how you did it.
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Anybody know the perk level yet? :headscratch:
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I would like to see who has killed one so far, and what you were in, and how you did it.
As of this moment DMGOD in a Panzer IV and Walleye in a T-34/85. Life update klick here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/pkd.php?type=1&selectTour=LWTour138&pindex=117) ;)
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similar to a 262 if not the same
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As of this moment DMGOD in a Panzer IV and Walleye in a T-34/85. Life update klick here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/pkd.php?type=1&selectTour=LWTour138&pindex=117) ;)
TY for the link!
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Anybody know the perk level yet? :headscratch:
100 perks, ENY 5
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It was closer to 150 for Knights.
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100 perks, ENY 5
100 Perks?!?!?
So a Tiger II = a B29? How does that work? :headscratch:
Well great, more toys I can't afford to play with. :(
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It was closer to 150 for Knights.
Actual perk price varies with perk modifier. Basic price is 100.
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Well since I can't drive a Tiger II I'm going to up some B29s and dive bomb them tonight and ruin everyone's fun. :D
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Did some testing, killed a King Tiger from the side at 1600, pretty much what an M4/T34 has to do to a Panther/tiger, now thats in a Panther so good luck getting an m4 closer.
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100 perks, ENY 5
Thanks Lusche. Will be sticking to my Firefly, but it is good to know. Woooo that's a lot to spend for sure... :confused:
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Did some testing, killed a King Tiger from the side at 1600, pretty much what an M4/T34 has to do to a Panther/tiger, now thats in a Panther so good luck getting an m4 closer.
I consider 1600 to be close-medium range for a Firefly. Would be interesting to see how it hits the Tiger II at longer distances. Thanks for the info Butcher.
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For purposes of aircraft cannon, most of all the IL2, here are the top portions you have any chance of penetrating.
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/Tiger-2front-40mm.jpg)
You'll have to come in steep and get close. I set convergance for the 37s at 250 or 200. The biggest target, and all the yellow is 40mm thick armor, is in the front of the roof and under the mantlet. A frontal attack may actually be your best bet. I'll try to get all armor thickness diagrams done in a few days.
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Does anyone know if vehicle armor is coaded for individual weak spots?
example is a 20mm roof a "solid" 20mm roof or is the hatch a weakspot etc?
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Having never been in an MA tank battle before, I figured the best thing I could do was charge the enemy line at TT in a new Tiger II. I shrugged off two bombs from a 110 and then went full speed downhill toward the sound of the guns. I was close enough to some that I'd just fire as I drove. One shot was enough to kill most. I killed five tanks in a minute or two. I ran out of targets and decided to fallback to regain my bearings. I did a 180 and thereby exposed my rear to a hidden tank who proceeded to shoot it. I died. I think I'll do it again tonight though as it was fun.
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hey rich, do you have those air to ground weak spots for every GV? i would like to take a look, seems interesting, i unloaded 5 shots in a M4 today wich means 10 40mm rounds and nothing happened, not even a lil smoke :frown:
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hey rich, do you have those air to ground weak spots for every GV? i would like to take a look, seems interesting, i unloaded 5 shots in a M4 today wich means 10 40mm rounds and nothing happened, not even a lil smoke :frown:
Are you diving near vertical on a tank before firing? You have to penetrate - where most do a shallow dive and actually just get deflected rounds.
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i mean those big yellow fireball that show up on my screen, that what i call hit and not the ones that make a lil white splash and come back to my cockpit
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Sounds tempting, going to piss people off this fall with a Stuka.
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Offline testing in a FW190-F8.
Salvo-2
PB1 rockets.
Tiger2 in the side at 400 yards go boom.
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i sat behind a king tiger in a m4-75 for 5 minutes blasting away at it.to no avail i didnt kill it :cry
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For purposes of aircraft cannon, most of all the IL2, here are the top portions you have any chance of penetrating.
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/Tiger-2front-40mm.jpg)
You'll have to come in steep and get close. I set convergance for the 37s at 250 or 200. The biggest target, and all the yellow is 40mm thick armor, is in the front of the roof and under the mantlet. A frontal attack may actually be your best bet. I'll try to get all armor thickness diagrams done in a few days.
Assuming it is modeled like this.
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I just scored a kill on Walleye's tiger II in my panther ;)
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I just scored a kill on Walleye's tiger II in my panther ;)
from the front? At what range?
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negative, from the side. First shot hit in the blue box, second shot hit the ground before it reached target. 3rd shot was the killshot, in the red box. i came across him taking cover behind a hedgerow, pretty much spawned right on him. had my range set at 16.
from the front? At what range?
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Tiger-2front-40mm.jpg)
It should be noted that i fired at him from an angle. From the way my round hit the red area, i believe my shot penetrated his armor and went straight into his engine, and would of went out the back of the tank. Since it hit his engine i believe Its why i was able to kill him with 1 shot to that specific spot.
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/Tiger-2front-40mm1.jpg)
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Does anyone know if vehicle armor is coaded for individual weak spots?
example is a 20mm roof a "solid" 20mm roof or is the hatch a weakspot etc?
My own post. Does anyone know? That would make a pretty big difference wouldn't it?
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oooooh if this is not modeled should be a wish!
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I shot a KT directly from behind , point blank , with my .45 , he back over me and killed me .
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For purposes of aircraft cannon, most of all the IL2, here are the top portions you have any chance of penetrating.
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/Tiger-2front-40mm.jpg)
You'll have to come in steep and get close. I set convergance for the 37s at 250 or 200. The biggest target, and all the yellow is 40mm thick armor, is in the front of the roof and under the mantlet. A frontal attack may actually be your best bet. I'll try to get all armor thickness diagrams done in a few days.
A shallow, frontal attack will be rewarded with a turret round to the face.
Without fail.
That is all.
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In offline testing last night I was able to kill a Tiger II through the front of the turret with the T-34/85, HVAP or AP with HVAP being easier, and with a Panzer IV H. I could not kill it with the M4A3(76), but that is likely due to my inability to aim with its gunsight. The German sights and the T-34/85's sight are very much superior to the American, British and T-34/76's sights in my opinion.
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In offline testing I found the only match for the tiger2 from a frontal attack is another tiger2.
It can easily be beat from the sides and rear with a t34-85...the m476 may take a few rounds at close range from sides and rear.
Panther head on with this thing will lose 99 out of 100 times I don't recommend it.
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In offline testing last night
How do you do that? Is it possible to choose what vehicles appear offline so you can practice against a specific tank?
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How do you do that? Is it possible to choose what vehicles appear offline so you can practice against a specific tank?
Yes, bring up the clip board and select Options and then Offline Drones, IIRC.
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While in a T34, inside 1200 yards use HVAP, outside use standard AP. The T34/85 has nothing on the M4/76mm in firepower at 1200 yards and longer ranges. The M4/76m has an edge, imo, due to a faster reload and better optics (5x being the key). The T34 has the armor advantage but vs a King Tiger that is a moot point.
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Yes, bring up the clip board and select Options and then Offline Drones, IIRC.
Thanks! learned something today.
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hey rich, do you have those air to ground weak spots for every GV? i would like to take a look, seems interesting, i unloaded 5 shots in a M4 today wich means 10 40mm rounds and nothing happened, not even a lil smoke :frown:
I did but I changed computers since then so I'll have to search. Thing is it isnt only the thin spots in the armor that tells the story. You are almost always attacking at an angle, shooting an angle shot, which limits penetration. The farther you are from the tank lessons the energy from the cannons of the IL2 or Hurri-D, or Yak-9T. As far as I know the only 20mm plate on a Tiger-2 is under the tank or low by the treads. The spots I highlighted are 40 mm and since the NS-37 gun with AP was rated at 50mm at 200 yards your going to have to be awfully close and at as steep a dive as possible. I actually used to invert the IL2 and come straight down on the tank itself, fireing 2 to 4 rounds at a near 0% angle. I set convergance at 250 yrds.
The Sherman is vulnerable in the rear top of hull, the upper sides, and most of all the top of the turret. In a Hurri-D I'd go for the turret top. Its the largest of the weak points and even misses can strike the front/rear hull tops which are also 20mm to 40mm or thinner. Try for one or 2 perfect shots each attack.
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I shot a KT directly from behind , point blank , with my .45 , he back over me and killed me .
:rofl
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I shot a KT directly from behind , point blank , with my .45 , he back over me and killed me .
Thats obviously a bug that needs to be fixed immediately :devil
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So, about my previous question.
Does our game model specific "weaker" areas in a GV's armor? Again, is a roof a 40mm roof, the hull a 80mm hull etc, or are specific areas weaker/stronger depending on where hit? Can staff answer this?
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err quick edit! I'm not looking for "where" Just curious if this should affect how i view armor protection.
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So, about my previous question.
Does our game model specific "weaker" areas in a GV's armor? Again, is a roof a 40mm roof, the hull a 80mm hull etc, or are specific areas weaker/stronger depending on where hit? Can staff answer this?
I don't know. I am not sure anybody outside of HTC knows.
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err quick edit! I'm not looking for "where" Just curious if this should affect how i view armor protection.
look at it's armor chart in game there is a serious weak spot on kt
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look at it's armor chart in game there is a serious weak spot on kt
Thats great...but it is not what I am asking about.
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I would like to add that tonight I personally witnessed a Tiger 2 getting owned by a jeep. :rofl Oh what a riot that was. :salute Hadessss
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Not sure if this is 100% true, but I think you can always get a hit on the turret's front armor. I killed a TigerII with a Panther from 2000 meters with 5 shots to the turret.
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i beat one in another tiger 2 :D killed its turret first
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I find I can one shot kill the King Tiger II from the side at 500 yards in a Panzer from the side easier than the Tiger I. What is with the early war penal gun on the King Tiger and the Panther. In the later part of the war the Germans put 360% MG mounts on most armor because of Allied air power.
I have even seen twine mounted MG's. I just didn't see in in a book . I have climbed all over German tanks at the Patten museum at Ft. Knox KY and at Aberdeen. This mount that is on both the Panther the new Tiger II and now our old Tiger I rotated and was not limited to what it is in the game.
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400yrds 0 degree deflection right into the drivers side with a panzer IV. One shot killed it. I did the exact same thing later. You gotta flank em.
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I just dropped it some supplies, did the trick real quick! What......not like it is hard :devil
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Tiger x 4.
Anybody know the perk level yet? :headscratch:
Not interested in the other parts of the convo.
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What is with the early war penal gun on the King Tiger and the Panther.
That evokes an odd image... :bolt:
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Got a T2 kill in a panzer ~600 yards right flank. 1st shot took out turret 2nd shot into hull killed. Also died 1 shot kill in T2 from T2 at 2400 yards :headscratch:
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Last night managed to kill a King Tiger from the front, 600 yards in the turret, HVAP from a T34/85. Second kill was at 1700 yards with an AP round from the rear.
Did manage a nice 3800 yard kill on a King Tiger with a KT or as a certain person says "Camping a hanger". I'm sure Mk84 will laugh at this since his panzer was was half way up a hill and said person was climbing the hill at 8mph chasing after him.
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Last night managed to kill a King Tiger from the front, 600 yards in the turret, HVAP from a T34/85. Second kill was at 1700 yards with an AP round from the rear.
Did manage a nice 3800 yard kill on a King Tiger with a KT or as a certain person says "Camping a hanger". I'm sure Mk84 will laugh at this since his panzer was was half way up a hill and said person was climbing the hill at 8mph chasing after him.
YESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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glad someone got him :salute