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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 1pLUs44 on August 01, 2011, 03:56:54 AM
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So in the past couple months, we have heard about neighborhood dogs and cats going missing. Well, 2 nights ago, I saw a coyote kill my neighbors cat Cosmo (He was almost like our cat since he was always over getting attention from us. I'm sad and I'm going to be really sad breaking the news to my neighbors.) Well tonight, I was outside smoking a cigarette when I heard a cat scream again, this time, I ran out there to see what was going on and I saw a coyote run away after I went around the corner and it had hurt my neighbors other cat Clowie, and had cornered her and my cat Tiger. I've had Tiger since I was about 3, and he's a part of my family. I'd really like to find a way to trap, kill, whatever I could do to get rid of it. Keep in mind this is in a neighborhood, but I know animal control won't be able to do anything about it so I was seeing if there's any particular way I could trap a Coyote? It could be more than one for all I know. I'm not sure. But I'm going to try to do all I can to keep this from happening again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated if you can give any.
:salute
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You're kind of up the creek. A trap is going to end up catching a dog or a cat just as easy as a coyote. If you want to save you cat bring it in a night. Once the coyotes recognize your area as a food source they are going to clean out all the cats and small dogs they can.
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suppressed 22 with sub ammo, quiet as a mouse :D
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suppressed 22 with sub ammo, quiet as a mouse :D
Assuming the neighbors are fond of their pets, I'd go about letting them all know you're going to kill the coyote, and just hang about with whatever firearm you're best with in an area without any collateral targets in your line of fire... and wait.
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Assuming the neighbors are fond of their pets, I'd go about letting them all know you're going to kill the coyote, and just hang about with whatever firearm you're best with in an area without any collateral targets in your line of fire... and wait.
This is about the only thing I could say as well. had to do it for one eatin folks animals near my house, but I also live out in the boonies so a shotgun worked for me, oh and a spotlight.
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http://www.livetraps.com/live-traps/coyote-traps <-------Trap
http://www.livetraps.com/animal-lure/coyote-gland <-----Bait/Lure
Heres a live trap thats available. Just bait it and it will catch it alive. From there you can do with it what you want.
I know its a tad expensive @ $160, but try talking to the neighbors, maybe they will split some of the cost with you (I would). Its definately cheaper than Vet bills, and/or explaining to someone that their pet is gone.
Nice thing with these is that any "by catch" ie dog, cat wont be harmed.
Good luck, and sorry to hear about Cosmo.
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firstly... keep your cat indoors... they may grumble and be moody but you know they'll be still alive...
secondly get something like this
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/327/6/6/kill_them_all_by_tonkiboi-d33h05h.jpg)
dog on steroids
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Also a fan of .22 subsonic rounds. Search online and you can find some homemade type silencers that should make it almost silent to hear
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Also a fan of .22 subsonic rounds. Search online and you can find some homemade type silencers that should make it almost silent to hear
Don't think I would recommend a home made suppressor. Get caught and it can go really badly for you.
That said... If you want to shoot it and if you have a window facing an area where you can set bait for the critter and there is NOTHING in the background. Second floor if possible, so you would be shooting mostly down toward the ground for additional safety. Pick a night with a lot of moon for light. Set up inside your house, in the dark so your eyes adjust. The key here is to have your 22 rifle well inside the house. You may have to set up on a table to get the down angle you need if on the second floor. Use the subsonic ammo. Open the window as little as possible, just enough to give you the firing lane that you need.
One shot to the head. The house will serve as an expansion chamber just like a suppressor. If anyone does hear it, if you only fire once, it is highly unlikely that they will even realize that it was a gunshot.
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(http://www.fas.org/dod-101/sys/land/m-60e3-dvic553.jpg)
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Don't think I would recommend a home made suppressor. Get caught and it can go really badly for you.
This, its a Federal crime (Felony) to do, you would go to real jail if you dont get the proper paperwork and tax stamp.
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Don't think I would recommend a home made suppressor. Get caught and it can go really badly for you.
Not if you acquire a permit, pay your fee and register it :devil
Otherwise my advice is:
Let the neighbors know you are about to do them a service, then...
Breathe
Relax
Aim
Squeeze
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Not if you acquire a permit, pay your fee and register it :devil
Otherwise my advice is:
Let the neighbors know you are about to do them a service, then...
Breathe
Relax
Aim
Squeeze
I concur. Talk to your neighbors and let loose your hail of FIRE!!!!
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You're kind of up the creek. A trap is going to end up catching a dog or a cat just as easy as a coyote. If you want to save you cat bring it in a night. Once the coyotes recognize your area as a food source they are going to clean out all the cats and small dogs they can.
+1
Also realize that there is more than one coyote, and once you eliminate one, by what ever means, it will become more difficult to eliminate the others. Coyotes are intelligent, highly adaptive, and they thrive in urban areas.
I suggest that you don't break the law dealing with this problem, and depending on what the laws are in your area even trying to live trap the animal may be illegal. If I was in your situation I would call, and try to get your neighbors to call animal control and report the coyotes every time you see them.
Honestly my money is on the coyotes. You may be able to thin the numbers down, and drive them out of your area for a while, but they will recover and come back to snack.
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+1
Also realize that there is more than one coyote, and once you eliminate one, by what ever means, it will become more difficult to eliminate the others. Coyotes are intelligent, highly adaptive, and they thrive in urban areas.
I suggest that you don't break the law dealing with this problem, and depending on what the laws are in your area even trying to live trap the animal may be illegal. If I was in your situation I would call, and try to get your neighbors to call animal control and report the coyotes every time you see them.
Honestly my money is on the coyotes. You may be able to thin the numbers down, and drive them out of your area for a while, but they will recover and come back to snack.
Only if your aim is bad...
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well,since your in a neighborhood i wouldnt reccomend any firearm.silenced or not if someone sees you shooting in your front yard your F :banana: ked
if i was you I'd go to walmart and get a high powered BB gun.a pellet pistol Co2 powered could probably pack enough punch to wound it and it will bleed out somewhere down the road.a BB rifle would be about 150$ but if you hit it i dont think theres a chance it would survive.
make sure you shoot for vital spots.above the shoulders(front legs)neck,or head.aiming above the shoulders will hit the lungs and cause them to fill with blood witch will then kill it.
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Here in Harris County Texas cats and dogs have to kept penned or on a leash.
Build a pen for your cat to play in outside and fence the yard.
Not knowing the laws in your area means folks can't be very helpful.
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well,since your in a neighborhood i wouldnt reccomend any firearm.silenced or not if someone sees you shooting in your front yard your F :banana: ked
if i was you I'd go to walmart and get a high powered BB gun.a pellet pistol Co2 powered could probably pack enough punch to wound it and it will bleed out somewhere down the road.a BB rifle would be about 150$ but if you hit it i dont think theres a chance it would survive.
make sure you shoot for vital spots.above the shoulders(front legs)neck,or head.aiming above the shoulders will hit the lungs and cause them to fill with blood witch will then kill it.
Pellet guns are still considered a firearm.
As are slingshots, blow darts, etc...
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well,since your in a neighborhood i wouldnt reccomend any firearm.silenced or not if someone sees you shooting in your front yard your F :banana: ked
if i was you I'd go to walmart and get a high powered BB gun.a pellet pistol Co2 powered could probably pack enough punch to wound it and it will bleed out somewhere down the road.a BB rifle would be about 150$ but if you hit it i dont think theres a chance it would survive.
make sure you shoot for vital spots.above the shoulders(front legs)neck,or head.aiming above the shoulders will hit the lungs and cause them to fill with blood witch will then kill it.
Worst advice ever - kill it by all means, but do not let it suffer a painful, lingering death. Even a coyote deserves better. Not aimed at you Thunder, just a personal gripe that irritates me.
Wurz
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Here in Harris County Texas cats and dogs have to kept penned or on a leash.
Build a pen for your cat to play in outside and fence the yard.
Not knowing the laws in your area means folks can't be very helpful.
your not that far away from me lol.Anyway,i dont even think you need to a license to shoot coyotes(in Texas)
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Call the state fish and game.
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your not that far away from me lol.Anyway,i dont even think you need to a license to shoot coyotes(in Texas)
In Illinois, coyotes are about the only thing that you can legally hunt with a high powered rifle. You do need a general hunting license and I believe a habitat stamp. The season is all year, I think (except maybe during deer season) and you are allowed to hunt coyotes at night during fox season (in November I beleive).
I would have to check the regulations though to be sure of any of it.
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+1
Also realize that there is more than one coyote, and once you eliminate one, by what ever means, it will become more difficult to eliminate the others. Coyotes are intelligent, highly adaptive, and they thrive in urban areas.
I suggest that you don't break the law dealing with this problem, and depending on what the laws are in your area even trying to live trap the animal may be illegal. If I was in your situation I would call, and try to get your neighbors to call animal control and report the coyotes every time you see them.
Honestly my money is on the coyotes. You may be able to thin the numbers down, and drive them out of your area for a while, but they will recover and come back to snack.
I'm not trying to be mean, but the Animal Control around where I live is a joke. They're letting this happen around here and I know coyotes are smart, I've hunted them before. I'm really afraid I wouldn't be able to trap it. I could call TPW, but it would be a long time before they did anything about it as well. Maybe I should invest in some subsonic 22 rounds for my 1022
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I'm not trying to be mean, but the Animal Control around where I live is a joke. They're letting this happen around here and I know coyotes are smart, I've hunted them before. I'm really afraid I wouldn't be able to trap it. I could call TPW, but it would be a long time before they did anything about it as well. Maybe I should invest in some subsonic 22 rounds for my 1022
Sounds like you have already decided.
Aim true.
Burn the carcass.
Deny everything.
Good luck :aok
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I'm not trying to be mean, but the Animal Control around where I live is a joke. They're letting this happen around here and I know coyotes are smart, I've hunted them before. I'm really afraid I wouldn't be able to trap it. I could call TPW, but it would be a long time before they did anything about it as well. Maybe I should invest in some subsonic 22 rounds for my 1022
A 10/22 wouldn't be my first choice for such an operation. The subsonic rounds probably won't cycle the action, but I guess that won't matter if you are only shooting once. If it were me, I would use a single shot bolt action 22. But that's because I have one already.
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Sounds like you have already decided.
Aim true.
Burn the carcass.
Deny everything.
Good luck :aok
Believe me, I'm gonna aim true, but I'm gonna string the carcass up on my property line as a warning to any other unfriendly critters or coyotes. And if that doesn't work, rinse, repeat.
A 10/22 wouldn't be my first choice for such an operation. The subsonic rounds probably won't cycle the action, but I guess that won't matter if you are only shooting once. If it were me, I would use a single shot bolt action 22. But that's because I have one already.
Mayb, I've used them in my Mossberg plinkster before and they seemed to work fine. I could just use that one then.
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Do you have bow hunting skills? Take the screen off a window, put out some bait and sit in the dark.
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Worst advice ever - kill it by all means, but do not let it suffer a painful, lingering death. Even a coyote deserves better. Not aimed at you Thunder, just a personal gripe that irritates me.
Wurz
ok,but look at how most deer and big game are killed.they either asphyxiate or bleed out.all my deer,elk,and bore kills have been clean shots but that doesnt mean they die on the spot.ive had to track down bores a mile and a half.I didnt know an animal could even have that much blood.I agree with you on the suffering but its either a coyote that every wants gone or a pet that no one wants to lose.thats what it comes down to.
Pellet guns are still considered a firearm.
As are slingshots, blow darts, etc...
yes they are considered a firearm.but less likely someone is going to be worried about a BB gun rather then an accual rifle or pistol.also alot quieter then a .22.making a supressor is out of the question for this 1.best route would be a BB gun or bow.but you still dont want to make it obvious of what you are doing
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Tell all the neighbors what is happening and someone else will do it for you.
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Get a stuffed cat make it meow and fill it with rat poison.
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Pellet guns are still considered a firearm.
As are slingshots, blow darts, etc...
No they arent.
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This, its a Federal crime (Felony) to do, you would go to real jail if you dont get the proper paperwork and tax stamp.
I don't get the weird suppressor laws in the US. Every rifle I own has one, and about 50% of hunters I know use them as well. They reduce noise 'pollution', they help mask your location from prey (especially good if you're culling pests), they reduce hearing loss issues, and they actually tighten up accuracy (some may experience a minor velocity gain as well). Plus they're dirt cheap, my .22 suppressor was about us$50, and my .243 one about $120.
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ok,but look at how most deer and big game are killed.they either asphyxiate or bleed out.all my deer,elk,and bore kills have been clean shots but that doesnt mean they die on the spot.ive had to track down bores a mile and a half.I didnt know an animal could even have that much blood.I agree with you on the suffering but its either a coyote that every wants gone or a pet that no one wants to lose.thats what it comes down to.
yes they are considered a firearm.but less likely someone is going to be worried about a BB gun rather then an accual rifle or pistol.also alot quieter then a .22.making a supressor is out of the question for this 1.best route would be a BB gun or bow.but you still dont want to make it obvious of what you are doing
9 out of 10 folks can't tell a pellet gun from a .50 caliber.
All they see is a weapon pointed downrange.
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No they arent.
I should have been more specific.
In some parts of the country they are.
Gun means a firearm or pneumatic gun or other similar device designed and intended to expel a projectile through a barrel of any length by means of explosive, expansion or release of compressed gas or compressed air or action of a spring mechanism.
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it would make serial killers jobs easier without the attention involved in a quiet gun shot.
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it would make serial killers jobs easier without the attention involved in a quiet gun shot.
Nah, serial killers rarely use guns.
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Then idk lol
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Nah, serial killers rarely use guns.
I didn't want to burst his bubble...
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Now hit men on the other hand....... :noid ;)
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I hunt them here in texas in the winter for the bounty (15.00 - a head) pawn shop 22 with 3X scope 22 shorts. Go to internet order a wonded rabbit tape play in middle of hard medium low volume shoot in stomach, it will run back to pack and keep going and did the rest wont come back for a long time if ever and no body to get rid of
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The stupid is strong in this thread.
The situation is simple. Loose pets left outside instead of being kept safe indoors or in a secure yard. There are coyotes in most of the urban areas of the US. They tend to thrive there as people have been and continue to be stupid. You feed them with your trash, food left out and with your pets. If you remove the incentive to stay in the area, they leave. That is not likely to be a viable solution as people will not change their ways willingly or quickly.
In an urban environment you are not going to be able to legally shoot the critters. Should you do so, be prepared to accept the consequences of your acts. Those range from simple misdemeanor prosecution to loss of your rights (felony conviction) to an injury or fatality to an innocent third party from a miss, ricochet or over penetration. Once you launch that shot or arrow you cannot call it back.
You could try poison bait. That might get one or two of them but coyotes ARE smart and there have been lots of attempts to poison them out by ranchers. It didn't work out well. It will also almost certainly be illegal so there is that prosecution thingie again.
Solution. First keep your pets inside at night. That means cats and dogs. Coyotes like to eat both but they absolutely love cats. They will play with dogs run them until they are tired, if foolish enough to chase the coyotes, then kill the dog. If you are going to own a pet, be responsible about it and keep them inside and or secure. If you cannot or will not do that then don't get one.
Call animal control, Call game and fish. Do not take no for an answer. Call the local city council, a LOT. Call the local county / parish representative, a LOT. The more noise you make about it the more likely you are to get a response to take care of the problem. You try to do things on your own expect bad things to happen.
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Believe me, I'm gonna aim true, but I'm gonna string the carcass up on my property line as a warning to any other unfriendly critters or coyotes.
If they are smart this should keep them away.
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Do you have any fields around where you live that are surrounded or bordered by trees? Here in KY, coyotes always stick close to those areas, mostly farm land. I suggest you go to a nearby field with a .223 and have a stake out. I'm not sure what Texas Fish and Wildlife has as far as regs, but in KY, you can kill as many coyotes as you want, year-round.
It won't just be cats and dogs, if they get comfy enough, coyotes will go after infants and even small kids. There is also the ever-present danger of rabies. If you trap it, get fish and game or animal control to come out and get it, releasing it a couple counties over will do nothing. You can always use repellent (Deer-off, basically mace), but that won't stop a determined coyote. The best option is to try to find the burrow. Look at any place close that has rocky ledges or cliffs, riverbanks, holes under stumps, etc. These are prime real-estate for the ugly buggers.
Good luck.
P.s. don't mistake a fox for a coyote, if you kill a fox, your arse is in a world of hurt if you don't have tags or if it is out of season, or both.
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my friend lives up and the hills, your best bet is to get a big dog, my friends cat kills the rodents and the dogs keep the threats away and it ends up working very well.
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my friend lives up and the hills, your best bet is to get a big dog, my friends cat kills the rodents and the dogs keep the threats away and it ends up working very well.
You have the added expense of a dog, you have to make it moderately mean (my dog will bark, but not bite, and he's a big boxer, I never made it mean). If the dog gets bitten in a brawl, it could contract rabies. Also, who is to say that the dog will even win? If the coyotes need food, they can and will gang up on animals. Repeated brawls with many coyotes, I just don't see it as a good method, but that's just me.
Getting rid of the problem directly reduces the need for animal expense.
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Maverick you didnt do a whole lot to address the problem.
Ive shot stray dogs and cats for causing a LOT less trouble than eating my pets.
Id have been hunting this guy a long time before now.
Please stick to something this man can use.
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You have the added expense of a dog, you have to make it moderately mean (my dog will bark, but not bite, and he's a big boxer, I never made it mean). If the dog gets bitten in a brawl, it could contract rabies. Also, who is to say that the dog will even win? If the coyotes need food, they can and will gang up on animals. Repeated brawls with many coyotes, I just don't see it as a good method, but that's just me.
Getting rid of the problem directly reduces the need for animal expense.
You have 2-3 or even one big german shepards running around it can be the nicest dog to humans, but when a vamit comes in and insults its territory boundries it can get pissed! trust me iv seen it and its shocking.
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The stupid is strong in this thread.
The situation is simple. Loose pets left outside instead of being kept safe indoors or in a secure yard. There are coyotes in most of the urban areas of the US. They tend to thrive there as people have been and continue to be stupid. You feed them with your trash, food left out and with your pets. If you remove the incentive to stay in the area, they leave. That is not likely to be a viable solution as people will not change their ways willingly or quickly.
In an urban environment you are not going to be able to legally shoot the critters. Should you do so, be prepared to accept the consequences of your acts. Those range from simple misdemeanor prosecution to loss of your rights (felony conviction) to an injury or fatality to an innocent third party from a miss, ricochet or over penetration. Once you launch that shot or arrow you cannot call it back.
You could try poison bait. That might get one or two of them but coyotes ARE smart and there have been lots of attempts to poison them out by ranchers. It didn't work out well. It will also almost certainly be illegal so there is that prosecution thingie again.
Solution. First keep your pets inside at night. That means cats and dogs. Coyotes like to eat both but they absolutely love cats. They will play with dogs run them until they are tired, if foolish enough to chase the coyotes, then kill the dog. If you are going to own a pet, be responsible about it and keep them inside and or secure. If you cannot or will not do that then don't get one.
Call animal control, Call game and fish. Do not take no for an answer. Call the local city council, a LOT. Call the local county / parish representative, a LOT. The more noise you make about it the more likely you are to get a response to take care of the problem. You try to do things on your own expect bad things to happen.
QFT!
Don't get me wrong. I'm 100% in favor of hunting, and coyote hunting in particular. I've trapped them, and I've shot them. It's just not a viable way of protecting the bait you've left out (er, cats). More time, money, and effort is spent every year on killing coyotes, and every year their population and range increase.
Shooting the coyote that's bothering you may be fun, and possibly even profitable (at the right time of year), but it won't be any more effective at stopping the problem than using a spoon to empty the ocean.
If the habitat is suitable, and food is available (and coyotes are some of the most resourceful critters on the globe) you'll have coyotes. Done deal. If you leave your livestock out where they can be eaten by coyotes, you'll have dead livestock. Done deal. Hunting/shooting coyotes even prompts them to reproduce at a higher rate...
We don't have all that many coyotes around compared to Texas, but we shot 41 of them this year here on the farm. Not even a dent in the population...
For that matter, the coyotes are probably better for the environment than the stray cats.
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QFT!
Don't get me wrong. I'm 100% in favor of hunting, and coyote hunting in particular. I've trapped them, and I've shot them. It's just not a viable way of protecting the bait you've left out (er, cats). More time, money, and effort is spent every year on killing coyotes, and every year their population and range increase.
Shooting the coyote that's bothering you may be fun, and possibly even profitable (at the right time of year), but it won't be any more effective at stopping the problem than using a spoon to empty the ocean.
If the habitat is suitable, and food is available (and coyotes are some of the most resourceful critters on the globe) you'll have coyotes. Done deal. If you leave your livestock out where they can be eaten by coyotes, you'll have dead livestock. Done deal. Hunting/shooting coyotes even prompts them to reproduce at a higher rate...
We don't have all that many coyotes around compared to Texas, but we shot 41 of them this year here on the farm. Not even a dent in the population...
For that matter, the coyotes are probably better for the environment than the stray cats.
How about calling animal services to relocate it?
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For that matter, the coyotes are probably better for the environment than the stray cats.
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n168/aislinnevans/bob_barker.jpg)
Because Bob Barker said so!!!
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How about calling animal services to relocate it?
Good idea!
Like, put it somewhere with a shortage of coyotes?
Or somewhere where people leave their cats out too much?
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Don't get me wrong. I'm 100% in favor of hunting, and coyote hunting in particular. I've trapped them, and I've shot them. It's just not a viable way of protecting the bait you've left out (er, cats). More time, money, and effort is spent every year on killing coyotes, and every year their population and range increase.
Shooting the coyote that's bothering you may be fun, and possibly even profitable (at the right time of year), but it won't be any more effective at stopping the problem than using a spoon to empty the ocean.
If the habitat is suitable, and food is available (and coyotes are some of the most resourceful critters on the globe) you'll have coyotes. Done deal. If you leave your livestock out where they can be eaten by coyotes, you'll have dead livestock. Done deal. Hunting/shooting coyotes even prompts them to reproduce at a higher rate...
We don't have all that many coyotes around compared to Texas, but we shot 41 of them this year here on the farm. Not even a dent in the population...
Shooting them will get rid of them for a short time, and dogs aren't always reliable, neither is repellent. There is no sure-fire "cure" for coyotes, but you can do what you can to prevent anything from happening to family pets (and family). Shooting them, combined with dogs (with rabies vaccines) and close watch can prevent them better than just shooting them. You're right.
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Thanks a lot for all of your input, it's helped me calm down a lot more and make a decision. My neighbors didn't take the news too well, and are giving us full freedom to kill any coyote/fox/pest that we see on their yard.
I've lived in the same house for over 15 years, right off of the COE lake property, and this is the first time we've had any coyote problems. I honestly think it's because of this drought, since it's one of the worse ones I've seen around here. We plan on setting up our coyote call and taking it down with a bow and arrow (please understand, in our neighborhood, it's not like a house every 100 feet next to eachother, every person has atleast 2-3 acres out here) and we are going to set up facing towards the lake so we do not shoot towards any houses or people.
Thank you for all of your help, any other tips will be greatly appreciated and hopefully tonight there will be a dead coyote or 2 strung up around our property.
:salute
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What if someone is on the lake in a boat?
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Good idea!
Like, put it somewhere with a shortage of coyotes?
Or somewhere where people leave their cats out too much?
:lol
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What if someone is on the lake in a boat?
Then obviously you use the same common sense you use at all times with firearms, anyway.
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Maverick you didnt do a whole lot to address the problem.
Ive shot stray dogs and cats for causing a LOT less trouble than eating my pets.
Id have been hunting this guy a long time before now.
Please stick to something this man can use.
All the advice Maverick gave was sound, common sence advice. Discharging a firearm in a populated area is just moronic.
<edit> Just read the layout of your neighborhood 1plus, I think your better off with the bow.
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All the advice Maverick gave was sound, common sence advice. Discharging a firearm in a populated area is just moronic.
You know where I live.
Moronic? Of course.
Where you live? Not nearly as moronic.
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Then obviously you use the same common sense you use at all times with firearms, anyway.
Well until mtnman and, I can't believe I'm saying this :huh, Maverick came along common sense was seriously lacking in this thread.
Just thought I'd pose a quick hypothetical. :lol
Personally, I'd just shoot them. I live in town so my varmint killer of choice is the .22 short (sub-sonic so as to not wake the neighbors.)
If noise isn't an issue, put them down with any firearm of choice. Just remember... common sense. :aok
And please spay or neuter your pets. Also you must realize how many songbirds are killed yearly by cat "owners" that allow their felines to roam without a bell on their collar. I blame the owners and not the animals, after all it is there nature. I had a couple feral cats running the neighborhood for awhile. I tried to get them under control. They sleep with the fishes now. :frown:
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Trap the cats and put bells on 'em. Then send them back to the neighbor with a note in the collar saying "fork up for some food."
Bells aren't a good idea with the actual situation, though. The coyotes don't need help locating the cats (domesticated ones).
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You know where I live.
Moronic? Of course.
Where you live? Not nearly as moronic.
Agreed, I posted that after reading another post, and didnt read down further. Hey, if ya ever need a place to shoot My buddie owns TargetWorld (10mins from ya) and I work there occasionally when he is short staffed or one of the FT gents is on Vacation, let me know. If you get time ill PM ya my cell#
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Trap the cats and put bells on 'em. Then send them back to the neighbor with a note in the collar saying "fork up for some food."
Bells aren't a good idea with the actual situation, though. The coyotes don't need help locating the cats (domesticated ones).
I guess what I'm saying is that my main concern is for the birds. Even domesticated cats are wonderful hunters.
Kill the coyotes, spay/neuter and bell the cats.
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I am curious, did your city change to using required 60 or 100 gallon trash cans lately? If so, the coyote's only food may be small animals and pets.
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Maverick you didnt do a whole lot to address the problem.
Ive shot stray dogs and cats for causing a LOT less trouble than eating my pets.
Id have been hunting this guy a long time before now.
Please stick to something this man can use.
You seem to have a significant reading comprehension issue.
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Agreed, I posted that after reading another post, and didnt read down further. Hey, if ya ever need a place to shoot My buddie owns TargetWorld (10mins from ya) and I work there occasionally when he is short staffed or one of the FT gents is on Vacation, let me know. If you get time ill PM ya my cell#
LOL, my dad goes there all the time :aok
Small world :D
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I guess what I'm saying is that my main concern is for the birds. Even domesticated cats are wonderful hunters.
Kill the coyotes, spay/neuter and bell the cats.
You're still missing the point. If you kill the coyotes, they'll still repopulate. Bells will only make the cats easier to find.
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U of A just finished a study here in AZ. 43% of a coyote's diet is house cat.....and no I'm not kidding.
Keep your critter out of harms way.
We used the dead rabbit recording thing to hunt coyotes, we gave up and just started walking back to camp, when we saw a coyote coming our way. Thing ran off we never saw a coyote in the area again. They are smart predators
Something to the idea of once they know they are being hunted they don't come around.
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U of A just finished a study here in AZ. 43% of a coyote's diet is house cat.....and no I'm not kidding.
Keep your critter out of harms way.
We used the dead rabbit recording thing to hunt coyotes, we gave up and just started walking back to camp, when we saw a coyote coming our way. Thing ran off we never saw a coyote in the area again. They are smart predators
Something to the idea of once they know they are being hunted they don't come around.
They'll get the idea real fast when one of their friends is hanging by his foot from a tree right off of our property line touching the lake property. We've had some scentlock that worked wonders when we went coyote hunting in South Texas last year. And we've got a pretty good call. I don't think these are too shy of people since I happened to run up on one outside my house, so hopefully we can get one or 2 in bow and arrow range.
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Dude just leave an Acme Catalogue outside your house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i7G4pojdUM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i7G4pojdUM)
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If you don't have a .22 rifle you can get these easily enough....Gamo Whisper
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Gamo+Whisper&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=1179827902689811316&sa=X&ei=Cx04Tp_HLYG5tgflxJiXAw&ved=0CEwQ8gIwAw