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Title: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 01, 2011, 01:23:21 PM
I have an AMD Phenom II X6 1055t AM3 socket. looking to get a heat sink/fan combo for better cooling. Idle im looking between 27 and 30 C for my CPU. it isnt that hot im aware, but the cooler the better. Size wouldnt be much an issue (Getting an NZXT Phantom this week), and i think i found something i could use but i was looking for thoughts on it. The reviews look good for the most part. Silent, does its job, isnt too expensive, big (not that it should be an issue with a Phantom i hope). it wouldnt be purchased today or tomorrow, but when i get tthings figured out ill be interested. if anyone has some better ideas for a heatsink/fan combo feel free to post!

possibility: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233088
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Easyscor on August 01, 2011, 02:02:56 PM
I went with a very similar product based on the Newegg video (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065). By the time I added case fans and air filters (~$72), I think I could have bought a liquid cooling system and run both cooler and quieter without all that leverage pushing down on the mother board. That's what I wish I'd done instead and I may do that, especially if I start transporting my new rig.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 01, 2011, 02:08:20 PM
I went with a very similar product based on the Newegg video (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065). By the time I added case fans and air filters (~$72), I think I could have bought a liquid cooling system and run both cooler and quieter without all that leverage pushing down on the mother board. That's what I wish I'd done instead and I may do that, especially if I start transporting my new rig.
im a little partial to liquids around my computer. i didnt spend all my money back in march and april to risk a liquid frying it if a leak gets sprung. also, how much more would a liquid cooling system be over a heat sink/fan combo?
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Easyscor on August 01, 2011, 02:29:28 PM
I'm looking at this one myself, it's a closed system out of the box. er, the packaging lol. I'll be mounting it inside at the top of the case.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 01, 2011, 02:37:02 PM
all you do is put it right on the CPU?
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Easyscor on August 01, 2011, 02:39:31 PM
Yes, and mount the radiator and fan to the case.

There's a video for it somewhere on Newegg apparently.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: ebfd11 on August 01, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
Masonz

I would go with the Corsair water cooled and also you can get them at Best Buy also so you wont have to wait for it. Just remove the fan on the back of the case and install the radiator then the fan on top of it. Viaola you have a cooler temp on your processor. Here is a vid to give you some idea. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbewqv_corsair-cwch50-1-hydro-h50-cpu-liqu_tech


LawnDart aka FeralPig

P.S. if you need more pics I can post them for ya so you see what I am talking about.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 01, 2011, 02:59:44 PM
Masonz

I would go with the Corsair water cooled and also you can get them at Best Buy also so you wont have to wait for it. Just remove the fan on the back of the case and install the radiator then the fan on top of it. Viaola you have a cooler temp on your processor.

LawnDart aka FeralPig

P.S. if you need more pics I can post them for ya so you see what I am talking about.
its all a thought right now, just getting my ideas together for after football and hiockey. im only gonna have Sundays to myself when football starts (practice everyday after school, EMT class saturday and games friday or saturday night). then hockey starts the end of november and goes until mid february. gonna have no time until spring timeish.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: ebfd11 on August 01, 2011, 03:06:04 PM
BTW you will love the Phantom case...bee advised it is a LARGE case and has LOTS of room in it.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 01, 2011, 03:08:44 PM
BTW you will love the Phantom case...bee advised it is a LARGE case and has LOTS of room in it.
gotta move some things around to fit it where its going haha. already measured out the size of and when i saw the videos on newegg and youtube i damn near shat myself at the size haha.

i dont need it right now other then to say i have it, but im thinkin ahead in the future. rather not be in one of those situations where i buy something and its too large for my case.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Zeagle on August 05, 2011, 09:32:26 AM
I use the Corsair HC50 water cooler on two AMD machines. My AH machine is an AMD Phenom II X6 1090. Works great in my HAF 932 case.

NOTE: Study the instructions carefully for mounting the cooling head to the CPU. Make sure you use the correct parts.


Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 05, 2011, 09:36:26 AM
I use the Corsair HC50 water cooler on two AMD machines. My AH machine is an AMD Phenom II X6 1090. Works great in my HAF 932 case.




i just may do that then.... if i dont bite onto a Sandy Bridge mobo and i5 2300 CPU my buddy showed me the price on.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: ebfd11 on August 05, 2011, 09:49:09 PM
Masonz I have mine watercooled and have had no leaks yet and mine runs at 32 degrees Celsius on low end and 43 on high load.


LawnDart
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: guncrasher on August 05, 2011, 09:57:04 PM
mine runs at low 40's air cooled.  2500k  oc to 4.5.  some coolers are better than others, but some look cooler than others.

semp
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 06, 2011, 03:03:04 PM
mine runs at low 40's air cooled.  2500k  oc to 4.5.  some coolers are better than others, but some look cooler than others.

semp
i5? Heard the factory heatsinks arent the best on the i5 2500k's.... im doin a lot of thinking recently. gotta save up my money first before i do anything though.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: guncrasher on August 06, 2011, 08:20:28 PM
I have never used the original fan.  I always got my own.  I have this one right now, it fits all 775, sandy bridges and i3/i5/i7.  it's expensive and you need to get a separate fan but it's worth the money.  I originally got it for my e8400 and just transferred to the sandy bridge.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001  cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103060  fan

semp



Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 06, 2011, 08:26:56 PM
I have never used the original fan.  I always got my own.  I have this one right now, it fits all 775, sandy bridges and i3/i5/i7.  it's expensive and you need to get a separate fan but it's worth the money.  I originally got it for my e8400 and just transferred to the sandy bridge.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001  cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103060  fan

semp





im looking 403.96 for my mobo, CPU, the heat sink and fan. around mid 600's for a desk (thats probably low, estimate of material as of a year ago)... over a grand before ill be happy (for now, gonna need to be getting me an SLI card not AMD before im truely happy) with my machine  :confused:. wouldnt mind a modular PSU in there, but i have an 850 so im set for now.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Masherbrum on August 06, 2011, 09:06:49 PM
mine runs at low 40's air cooled.  2500k  oc to 4.5.  some coolers are better than others, but some look cooler than others.

semp

Yep.

Great one - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8807/cpu-pro-01/Prolimatech_Megahalems_Rev_B_Intel_CPU_Heatsink_LGA_775_1156_1366_AM2_AM2_AM3.html?tl=g48c373s960 (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8807/cpu-pro-01/Prolimatech_Megahalems_Rev_B_Intel_CPU_Heatsink_LGA_775_1156_1366_AM2_AM2_AM3.html?tl=g48c373s960)

Another great one - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13396/cpu-scy-35/Scythe_MUGEN-3_5_Heatpipes_Universal_CPU_Cooler_SCMG-3000.html?tl=g48c373s961 (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13396/cpu-scy-35/Scythe_MUGEN-3_5_Heatpipes_Universal_CPU_Cooler_SCMG-3000.html?tl=g48c373s961)

Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 06, 2011, 09:21:17 PM
suggestions for thermal paste?
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Easyscor on August 06, 2011, 11:31:47 PM
Careful, that link says nothing about supporting an 1155 motherboard, and I doubt that it will.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Masherbrum on August 06, 2011, 11:54:46 PM
Careful, that link says nothing about supporting an 1155 motherboard, and I doubt that it will.

Brands my friend, brands.   Prolimatech, Noctua and Scythe are probably the better of the "Air Cooling" HS's.    Zalman's are a waste of money.     
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Spikes on August 07, 2011, 01:05:09 AM
suggestions for thermal paste?
Arctic Silver 5.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100017
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 07, 2011, 09:13:20 AM
Arctic Silver 5.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100017
was thinkin about that... does it dry up in time? cause im seldom gonna use it...
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Drano on August 07, 2011, 11:09:26 AM
I checked out the stock cooler on my 2600K before I got the real one. Just had to fire it up yaknow. The stock cooler is ridiculous. Don't even bother to unpack it. That bad. Idle temps of 47 at idle in an open test bench with a fan running on it. Yanked that off first chance I got. I went with a Zalman 9900Max cooler and Arctic Silver 5 paste. It cost about $79-89 new but I got a refurbished one on EBay cheap. The cooler runs great, it's pretty quiet and keeps my idle temps at around 31 and full P95 load temps at around 60-62 which is OK for my CPU. Yes Arctic Silver dries up over time but that's by design. The curing process takes about 200 hours of use after which you'd see a gain in cooling performance of maybe a couple of additional degress over a new application.

If you're looking for a cooler that won't break the bank check out the Cooler Master Hyper 212. Great little cooler that will run ya about $35. It'll fit all sockets currently available.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Rob52240 on August 07, 2011, 11:12:45 AM
im a little partial to liquids around my computer. i didnt spend all my money back in march and april to risk a liquid frying it if a leak gets sprung. also, how much more would a liquid cooling system be over a heat sink/fan combo?

That's exactly why I don't have indoor plumbing. 


Actually, a decent liquid cooling setup won't leak.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: guncrasher on August 07, 2011, 11:15:33 AM
Careful, that link says nothing about supporting an 1155 motherboard, and I doubt that it will.

you mean the Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler?  I have it installed on my 2500k 1155 mobo.  no problems here.  115#/136# mobos use the same coolers. 775 use diddferent but some coolers have adjustable holes to fit 775/115#/136#.

semp
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 07, 2011, 11:17:55 AM
That's exactly why I don't have indoor plumbing. 


Actually, a decent liquid cooling setup won't leak.
it isnt leaks, so much as maitenance.


and ive been damn lucky recently in the real world with real issues... last thing i need is my luck to fail on something stupid and everything else goes wrong after (it always goes like that, dont it?)


Yes Arctic Silver dries up over time but that's by design. The curing process takes about 200 hours of use after which you'd see a gain in cooling performance of maybe a couple of additional degress over a new application.

im talking about in the tube does it dry up.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: guncrasher on August 07, 2011, 11:21:13 AM
im looking 403.96 for my mobo, CPU, the heat sink and fan. around mid 600's for a desk (thats probably low, estimate of material as of a year ago)... over a grand before ill be happy (for now, gonna need to be getting me an SLI card not AMD before im truely happy) with my machine  :confused:. wouldnt mind a modular PSU in there, but i have an 850 so im set for now.

hey masonz this is what I have.  and by the way you dont have to buy everything at the same time.  if you have and are willing to reuse some old parts, and replace as it fits within your budget. I sure as heck didnt spend all that money at the same time.


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here's my system in today's dollars.

173  msi mobo (awesome sound)    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130574
219 2500k cpu  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
 65  gskill ripjaws ram 2x4  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
 65  wd hd  750g  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136283
 60  hitachi deathstart 1 tb  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145368  (similar)
 70 cpu cooler beats most water cooled Smiley  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001
 10 fan for above cooler  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103060
100  tempest case (no longer available)
 30  cd rom no longer available http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030
195 evga 465 oc vc  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130557&Tpk=01G-P3-1467-AR
100 ps one listed was a replacement for rma http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116011
  25 fan controller
100 win764 bit
1212 total.  plust 2 24 monitors 400 for both.

actual cost for me is probably around 1000, since I sold my old gateway computer when i first upgraded to an e8400 based system.  then I sold that cpu/mobo/ram to upgrade to the new 2500k based system.  I also sold my old vc which lowered the price for my current vc to 200.  most of the stuff i got was bought on sale with  little or no shipping.

current system will play with everything maxed out shadows at 2400 can do 4800 but i see no point since I dont see the difference.  fps will go down to 55 every now and then, but that's mostly because I also have fraps recording  Big Grin.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: Drano on August 07, 2011, 11:35:22 AM


im talking about in the tube does it dry up.

Well nothing in a tube lasts forever but AS5 isn't like say caulk. Keep the cap on it of course. I've had a tube for a couple of years in a cool place and just used the last of it on this current build. I think it says in the application guide that you can keep it in the fridge and it'll keep longer.

Also get the smallest tube you can find. I got the teeny one at a Radio Shack for around $11. Since you're only using a tiny dot at a time that should last you quite a while.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: ebfd11 on August 07, 2011, 11:36:00 AM
LOL semp dont make me pull out my rig specs LOL...

I dont wanna see you  :cry
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 07, 2011, 11:42:02 AM
heres what i have right now:
MSI 880GM-E41 74.99
XFX Radeon 5750 (cant find it on newegg, but i think it was aroudn 115ish or something.)
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2X4GB) 54.99
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD 64.99
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 159.90
Hanns·G HZ201DPB Black 20" 149.99
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121004
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 99.99
Orignal cost: 794.94

Extras:
Used Rosewill Xtreme Series RX850-S-B 850W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified (picked it up off a buddy for 60)
NZXT Phantom Black: 139.99
  -Extra fans:2X200 22.99 each
                  1X140 9.99
Donated Mouse and keyboard by Gyrene81

Extra sub total: 255.96
TD gave me a deal though on the case, all the goodies for the case it came to 137.50.

Extra Total: 197.50

Final Total: 990.44


bought most of my stuff new, except for the extras. my video card runs the game like a champ so i wont be replacing that until i need to.

Semp, you were right, didnt think i had that much wrapped up in this  :rofl



Well nothing in a tube lasts forever but AS5 isn't like say caulk. Keep the cap on it of course. I've had a tube for a couple of years in a cool place and just used the last of it on this current build. I think it says in the application guide that you can keep it in the fridge and it'll keep longer.

Also get the smallest tube you can find. I got the teeny one at a Radio Shack for around $11. Since you're only using a tiny dot at a time that should last you quite a while.
exactly why i was asking, newegg has it for 11.99.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: guncrasher on August 07, 2011, 02:27:08 PM
nice puter.  i am thinking of replacing my tempest, but the damn thing dont give me a reason to do it.  I got it from TD a couple of years ago and it hasnt let me down, talking from the cooling point of it.  any case will last forever, but a case that cools your system and lasts forever not sure if it's a plus  :D.

semp
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 07, 2011, 02:31:08 PM
I crank all my fans up on my phantom and my cpu temp drops 1 degree... for 5 or 10 minutes then it warms up again (probably because the heatsink isn't working as hard)
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: guncrasher on August 07, 2011, 04:20:32 PM
I think you just set up your cpu cooler, it takes about 2 weeks for the paste to set.  so you will be seeing lower temps coming up.  also  what are the temps on your cpu right now?

semp
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 07, 2011, 05:52:50 PM
I'm looking 28-30 C right now, if i turn all my fans up ill be between 25 and 27 C.
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: guncrasher on August 07, 2011, 07:19:03 PM
dude you know that is awesome temps right?  you get it any cooler than that and your cpu wont work due to ice crystals forming  :rofl.  antyhing below 50 is great.

semp
Title: Re: CPU Heatsink/Fan
Post by: MaSonZ on August 07, 2011, 07:20:03 PM
dude you know that is awesome temps right?  you get it any cooler than that and your cpu wont work due to ice crystals forming  :rofl.  antyhing below 50 is great.

semp
:rofl

if i look into that i5 2500k ill be lookin for a heatsink though  :aok

of course, my Fan on my CPU is extremely loud and anooying right now to keep my CPU that cool. everything is factory. if i could get a quieter fan....