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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: chipr on September 08, 2011, 04:26:13 PM
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My wish is the have the atomic bomb added to the game. I know what your thinking, that everyone would use it. My rebuttal is this, have a high cost for it, lets say 500 perks. You couldnt win the game with it but just imagine if you can use it on a airfield. It would destroy all the hangars and ords and everything else or it would totally wipe out a town. We only used 2 during the war, but with the high cost to use it, you wouldnt see it that often. And why not add V2 rockets as well. Those can be launched only at qualified fields such as the bases that are linked to the capitol.
Just a wish,
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no.
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if only there was some kind of badly-drawn cartoon to express my feelings about this wish ... :headscratch:
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if only there was some kind of badly-drawn cartoon to express my feelings about this wish ... :headscratch:
i dont think there is anything for this kind of wish...but...i will submit a cat pic soon...cats...rule...everythi ng...
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i dont think there is anything for this kind of wish...but...i will submit a cat pic soon...cats...rule...everythi ng...
You're been on the forums for a year and you're not aware of the NOOK pic!?
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You're been on the forums for a year and you're not aware of the NOOK pic!?
oh crap! i forgot about that! thanks for the reminder!
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Here we go again... :furious
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someone has overdosed on twinkies and kool aid...the op should try more nutritious food, that junk will rot your brain.
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(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff252/DropkickYankees/impfp-1.jpg)
In other words, NO.
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I wish for the N00K only to have fun with it offline.
Otherwise, no.
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if only there was some kind of badly-drawn cartoon to express my feelings about this wish ... :headscratch:
You're been on the forums for a year and you're not aware of the NOOK pic!?
Have no fear!
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd103/xlsrules/tehbignookie.gif)
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500 perks, only arms after falling 30,000 feet and wipes out everything within dar ring.
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Bah! You can get three moving tanks with a 1000kg bomb:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/AH2%20screenshots/3M-4s-2.png)
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/AH2%20screenshots/3M-4s-8.png)
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A hell 2 the No! :aok
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My wish is the have the atomic bomb added to the game. I know what your thinking, that everyone would use it. My rebuttal is this, have a high cost for it, lets say 500 perks. You couldnt win the game with it but just imagine if you can use it on a airfield. It would destroy all the hangars and ords and everything else or it would totally wipe out a town. We only used 2 during the war, but with the high cost to use it, you wouldnt see it that often. And why not add V2 rockets as well. Those can be launched only at qualified fields such as the bases that are linked to the capitol.
Just a wish,
Wish denied, have a nice day :)
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Wish denied, have a nice day :)
:rofl
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n,.
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chipr,
FYI, HiTech has in the past stated that there wouldn't be a larger bomb than the 4,000lb 'cookie'.
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Lets at least have the grand slams for hitting HQ's with
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Nook = Slap yourself
Grand Slam= SIGN ME UP!!!! :rock :banana: :aok :x
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I almost never say never, an exception to that is an atomic bomb.
We have said before that we'll never do an atomic bomb.
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i say yes, but after you use it, you can't log in for 30 days. still gotta pay, just no play because you deemed a nuclear bomb necessary :banana:
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a bunch of no's but no good reasons why.
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a bunch of no's but no good reasons why.
If you need an explanation as to why giving players in a multiplayer online PVP game a nuclear device is a bad idea, I fear no amount of explanation will be sufficient to get the point across to you.
Wiley.
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Fallout:Aces high. :t
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a bunch of no's but no good reasons why.
It has been discussed a million times. Every time we agreed that it was a bad idea.
Plus HTC already said "no", twice.
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1st off if it's dropped into a furball we're going to have about 30 blind pilots.
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he's doing a jugler.
semp
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Pros of having a nuke...
1) Would get instantly 30+ kills from the blast radius
2) Base would glow in the dark
Cons of having a nuke...
1) Insta-whine on 200
2) Crabby would have more than enough perks to constantly drop on you with it
3) Crabby would abuse the nuke
4) Crabby would kill all furballs with nuke
5) Crabby would get banned thx to the nuke (for most people this would go under "pro nuke) :x :x :x
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Pros of having a nuke...
1) Would get instantly 30+ kills from the blast radius
2) Base would glow in the dark
Cons of having a nuke...
1) Insta-whine on 200
2) Crabby would have more than enough perks to constantly drop on you with it
3) Crabby would abuse the nuke
4) Crabby would kill all furballs with nuke
5) Crabby would get banned thx to the nuke (for most people this would go under "pro nuke) :x :x :x
:lol :rofl :lol :rofl funny stuff crabby :aok
a bunch of no's but no good reasons why.
if you had the capacity to fully understand why not, you would never have come up with such a preposterous notion...something only a squeaker with no regard for the other 400+ players would even consider. this is not command and conquer, or some shoot-em up bang bang kill the zombies first person shooter.
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Bomber Chipr wants the nook eh!?
I'd love to drop a nuke on the strats and wipe the lot out. It would make climbing to 30k and travelling all the way to enemy strats worth my time; getting watching the beautiful mushroom spread and turn everything into pixel dust.
It would only be abused unless it could be worked into the programming that the nuke could only be armed and dropped on strats, would bring strats and mass skytrain supply missions into the game abit more.
But then again nukes are evil mass murdering weapons.
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Maybe we should have a nuke. Set the perk cost at a million or whatever would take an average player 10 years to accumulate. :D
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Perhaps there is a way we could have the nook. Run this scenario:
Instead of just having the map change once one side has taken enough of the nme bases, the nook becomes available, for again a ton of perks. The nook then must be flown and dropped on the one of the nme hq's to end the war...imagine the flight there???
One B-29, with a hundred escorts for the sake of protecting the win.... the other guys coming up in their 163's, 262's, 109k's, 47m's.... crazy crazyness.... :cheers:
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-1 to MA.
+1 to scenario.
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As long as the bomb itself costs a lot of perks I see no problemo with it. +1
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Two bombs where used, over millions of others used. Think about it. NO!
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-1 to MA.
+1 to scenario.
:headscratch: what scenario would that be, sayonara nagasaki?
i can picture it now, would be a great scenario, 3 frames of dogfights and hight alt b-29s with nothing in the japanese lineup that can catch them and 1 frame of a lone b-29 flying at 40,000 feet without a single japanese aircraft...3 hours, bomb away...2 minutes then flash...frame over allies win.
yup, great scenario...would rather let my legs go numb sittin on the toilet. :rolleyes:
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:headscratch: what scenario would that be, sayonara nagasaki?
i can picture it now, would be a great scenario, 3 frames of dogfights and hight alt b-29s with nothing in the japanese lineup that can catch them and 1 frame of a lone b-29 flying at 40,000 feet without a single japanese aircraft...3 hours, bomb away...2 minutes then flash...frame over allies win.
yup, great scenario...would rather let my legs go numb sittin on the toilet. :rolleyes:
I was thinking more along the lines of a non-historical scenario.
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If a nook cost 500 perks and B29s cost 100+ perks, how many nukes would we actually see in the game? Before the 15 vets in the game chime in and say they have four bazillion bomber perks, i'm talking about after the first 1-2 weeks after everyone wastes all their bomber perks dropping the nukes. How long does it take the average player to acquire 500 bomber perks? And if so, do they really want to waste their nuke on something meaningless? This has merit.
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If a nook cost 500 perks and B29s cost 100+ perks, how many nukes would we actually see in the game? Before the 15 vets in the game chime in and say they have four bazillion bomber perks, i'm talking about after the first 1-2 weeks after everyone wastes all their bomber perks dropping the nukes. How long does it take the average player to acquire 500 bomber perks? And if so, do they really want to waste their nuke on something meaningless? This has merit.
I would see 12 the first day alone :). I would wait for the low 262 call. up a b29 and boom :devil. or perhaps come in low on a base with lots of red around looking for an easy kill then drop the bomb and wait for the pm's to start :rofl :rofl :rofl.
I will bet that if the nuke was intro 99.99999999% would be used just like I described it. or perhaps drop it from 10k on a base that has a friendly cv nearby and boom wipe out the cons and the base and town in one pass :banana: :banana:. hey I would be the vtard squad all by myself :angel:.
semp
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I would see 12 the first day alone :). I would wait for the low 262 call. up a b29 and boom :devil. or perhaps come in low on a base with lots of red around looking for an easy kill then drop the bomb and wait for the pm's to start :rofl :rofl :rofl.
I will bet that if the nuke was intro 99.99999999% would be used just like I described it. or perhaps drop it from 10k on a base that has a friendly cv nearby and boom wipe out the cons and the base and town in one pass :banana: :banana:. hey I would be the vtard squad all by myself :angel:.
semp
It wouldn't have to wipe out all the planes. It could just level ground targets and maybe anything below 1.5-2k. If you see a B29 coming overhead you can get the hell out of the way. :devil
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If a nook cost 500 perks and B29s cost 100+ perks, how many nukes would we actually see in the game? Before the 15 vets in the game chime in and say they have four bazillion bomber perks, i'm talking about after the first 1-2 weeks after everyone wastes all their bomber perks dropping the nukes. How long does it take the average player to acquire 500 bomber perks? And if so, do they really want to waste their nuke on something meaningless? This has merit.
doesn't take long to build bomb**** perks if you're using the ew and mw to farm points...just ask the people who do it.
now i know you're a squeaker...the only way it could even get close to having any merit is if it killed friendly and enemy up to 1000ft up and within a 25 mile radius.
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doesn't take long to build bomber perks if you're using the ew and mw to farm points...just ask the people who do it.
now i know you're a squeaker...the only way it could even get close to having any merit is if it killed friendly and enemy up to 1000ft up and within a 25 mile radius.
25 mile? The WW2 atomic bomb major shockwave/destruction was only two miles in diameter.
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I am ashamed to admit there is a part of me that would love to pour a glass of fine hooch, pop some popcorn, and nook the nearest busy tank battle just to sit back and revel in the wailing and gnashing of teeth on 200. However I don't think a reasonable case can be made to put that kind of power in the hands of 1 player. What benefit would it have for gameplay to give one player the capability to obliterate an entire base/town/hq with one bomb?
Wiley.
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I am ashamed to admit there is a part of me that would love to pour a glass of fine hooch, pop some popcorn, and nook the nearest busy tank battle just to sit back and revel in the wailing and gnashing of teeth on 200. However I don't think a reasonable case can be made to put that kind of power in the hands of 1 player. What benefit would it have for gameplay to give one player the capability to obliterate an entire base/town/hq with one bomb?
Wiley.
to annoy the crap out of the dweebs camping when I am on the receiving end :D.
semp
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25 mile? The WW2 atomic bomb major shockwave/destruction was only two miles in diameter.
The US estimate was 4.7 square miles of blast.fire damage. An interesting tidbit is that the Enola Gay felt the
shockwave 11.5 miles away at 30k +. Kind of makes you wonder what an aircraft at 10,000 feet and within 5 miles
would have felt. Disregarding the potential for blindess, burns and radiation poisoning...all of which might have a slight
effect on combat effectiveness :D
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The US estimate was 4.7 square miles of blast.fire damage. An interesting tidbit is that the Enola Gay felt the
shockwave 11.5 miles away at 30k +. Kind of makes you wonder what an aircraft at 10,000 feet and within 5 miles
would have felt. Disregarding the potential for blindess, burns and radiation poisoning...all of which might have a slight
effect on combat effectiveness :D
2 mile was severe damage but I can buy the 4 mile thing. But most of that damage was due to shock wave damage. Does AH even have shock wave damage for regular ordnance?
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Does AH even have shock wave damage for regular ordnance?
i think it does. not really sure though.
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25 mile? The WW2 atomic bomb major shockwave/destruction was only two miles in diameter.
The US estimate was 4.7 square miles of blast.fire damage.
4.7 mi2 is a circle with approximate radius of 1.225 mi, giving it a diameter of approximately 2.4 miles. You're both right enough for this thread. :D
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4.7 mi2 is a circle with approximate radius of 1.225 mi, giving it a diameter of approximately 2.4 miles. You're both right enough for this thread. :D
Oh you math wiz you. :D
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If a nook cost 500 perks and B29s cost 100+ perks, how many nukes would we actually see in the game? Before the 15 vets in the game chime in and say they have four bazillion bomber perks, i'm talking about after the first 1-2 weeks after everyone wastes all their bomber perks dropping the nukes. How long does it take the average player to acquire 500 bomber perks? And if so, do they really want to waste their nuke on something meaningless? This has merit.
It will have consequences that will effect game play beyond just atomizing something. You will see a dramatic increase in perk farming in the EW and MW arenas where players will vulch 2nd accounts to spend on the atomic bomb and B-29s in the LW arena. You know it will happen.
ack-ack
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Hmmm..wonder if they would allow formations with nukes....just imagine the whining if one of those got
wacked before reaching the target....Holy Perkopcalypse Batman! :lol
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I think we should have the nuke but after it leaves the bomb bay you are discoed and your account gets deleted. :devil
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a bunch of no's but no good reasons why.
chipr,
FYI, HiTech has in the past stated that there wouldn't be a larger bomb than the 4,000lb 'cookie'.
Fat Man weighed 10,213 lbs.
Little Boy weighed 9,700 lbs.
Both were carried by specially modified "Silverplate" B-29s.
Modifications to the bomb bays were extensive and time-consuming. Its four 12 ft (3.7 m) bomb bay doors and the fuselage section between the bays were removed and a single 33 ft (10 m) bomb bay configured (the length of the gun-type shape was approximately 17 ft (5.2 m)). New bomb suspensions and bracing were attached for both shape types, with the gun-type suspension anchored in the aft bomb bay (although its length protruded into the forward bay) and the implosion type mounted in the forward bay.[1]:8 Separate twin-release mechanisms were mounted in each bay, using modified glider tow-cable attach-and-release mechanisms.[1]:9
In essence, the bombs are bigger than allowed under HTC's criteria and we do not have the plane to carry it in game.
wrongway
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.... 2nd accounts.....
You do realize what you just said means HTC will get more money, right?
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You do realize what you just said means HTC will get more money, right?
Most of the "Shade" accounts I've ever seen people use to farm perks seem to disappear or change after two weeks.....
:noid
wrongway
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Most of the "Shade" accounts I've ever seen people use to farm perks seem to disappear or change after two weeks.....
:noid
wrongway
A computer/ip can only use a 2 week trial once from what I know.
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From my attempted exploits, the 2-week trial is somehow embedded into the computers registry somewhere.
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A computer/ip can only use a 2 week trial once from what I know.
Nope, it is very easy to by pass that.
ack-ack
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Nope, it is very easy to by pass that.
ack-ack
:uhoh
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Make it cost a 1000 perkies and it shows up on everyones map as a big orange dot no matter where it is, along with the arena message that a nuke is up. At the same time 163's would be enabled at every base enemy to the B29 pilots side at half normal perk price. This would expire once the nuke is dropped or the B29 w/nuke was shot down. The person that shoots down the B29 w/nuke recieves 500 perkies. This would pretty much make it a suicide mission for the B29 pilot, or at the very least an epic battle to see who can get to it first to shoot it down.
In this situation a nuke would be (pun intended) a blast :aok :lol
:salute
BigRat
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Let me reiterate a wise mans words...
A HELL TO THE NO.
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I would see a Grand-Slam being more effective than this thing
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It's too much power for 1 person, so how's this. Each time an enemy base is captured, your country gain "parts" for it. Once you have captured all bases, but still have not won the war (example would be 2 v 1 a country into oblivion), the nuke is ready to be dropped. The nuke is free, although it is only enabled from the same base 163s are. So if you want to use it, expect a 1 hour+ flight to wherever you're going. Ample time for the 2v1'ed country to form a defense. And if a whole country of 163s can't kill a couple sets of B29s, they deserve to lose.
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It what way was Pyro unclear? There will be no nuke in AH.
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It what way was Pyro unclear? There will be no nuke in AH.
In what way did you not read the thread you are posting in? Wishlist...let me emphasize...WISH
No matter the answer, we can WISH
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great idea, titanic. +1
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In what way did you not read the thread you are posting in? Wishlist...let me emphasize...WISH
No matter the answer, we can WISH
Wishing for things that will not happen, period, is stupid.
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Wishing for things that will not happen, period, is stupid.
Not everyone has seen the threads where pyro has said no to atomic bombs.
It's stupid to think everyone has.
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Not everyone has seen the threads where pyro has said no to atomic bombs.
It's stupid to think everyone has.
I don't want to comment on possible outcomes while the poll is still live but that's never been said by anybody at HTC, even in private. It would be stupid to put something in the poll that we weren't willing to make. We have said before that we'll never do an atomic bomb.
I haven't researched a lot of that enough to have an informed opinion much less already have a decision made(that includes the 410 contrary to popular rumor). I have to be carefully consider things when it comes to something that is very rare, very powerful, or very difficult to model or get coded into the game. On the B-25G or H, I've been there done that in another game and think that would be a fun and worthy addition to AH. A perk ordnance system looms out there in the indefinite future and that would certainly give me more leeway to put in more exotic stuff without having it run amok or eat up extra plane slots. I almost never say never, an exception to that is an atomic bomb.
There ya go. Shall we continue?
wrongway
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Wishing for things that will not happen, period, is stupid.
I will never stop wishing that Jessica Alba will marry me.
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I will never stop wishing that Jessica Alba will marry me.
Who is that, is she famous or something?
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Who is that, is she famous or something?
im not sure if thats an actor or a singer, all i know is that my chains are better :p
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Ah yes, the I'm so cool because I'm not in the "in" crowd is here. I don't know who that is, and I want everyone else to know that I don't know who that is. :rolleyes:
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Who is that, is she famous or something?
I really hope you're joking... Sarcasm don't work too well on the internet. She's not the hottest girl or best singer...but she's pretty famous. Or used to be at least.
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Not everyone has seen the threads where pyro has said no to atomic bombs.
It's stupid to think everyone has.
The quotes were posted earlier in this thread. Nobody posting in this thread has any excuse to be ignorant of HTC's stance on nuclear bombs.
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I really hope you're joking... Sarcasm don't work too well on the internet. She's not the hottest girl or best singer...but she's pretty famous. Or used to be at least.
Nope im not joking, I really dont know other then its something to do with hollywood or something over that way.
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There ya go. Shall we continue?
wrongway
No, because not everyone and future new gamers are going to see THIS thread. Hitech should creat a "never happening" Thread and sticky it to let everyone know what they will never do.
The quotes were posted earlier in this thread. Nobody posting in this thread has any excuse to be ignorant of HTC's stance on nuclear bombs.
You said it was stupid to wish for things that will not happen, the TC posted this wish, then Pyro's sayings were posted IN his topic.
Meaning he didnt see those until AFTER he'd already asked. so its not being Ignorant, He simply did not see the original topic where pyro said those things, and he didnt see them now until halfway through his topic pages.
I didnt even know Pyro had said that till back when ppl started talking about the nukes around when the b29 was added.
And any future new pilots prob wont see these topics ether. So unless hitech stickys a "not happening" topic, i think its a bit ignorant to think everyone is going to see every quote in every thread the admins post in.
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Tyrannius,
Here is my first post in this thread, reply #17, directed at the OP:
chipr,
FYI, HiTech has in the past stated that there wouldn't be a larger bomb than the 4,000lb 'cookie'.
As you can see, it was nothing other than an information post for the OP.
The OP did not know, he is not the stupid one. Just below my first reply, MachFly in reply 20 posted Pyro's statements that the nuke would never be added.
My comments about people wasting time wishing for something that will never happen were not directed at the OP, they were directed at the people who ignored MachFly's post and continued advocating for something that will not be added, ever, period, end of story.
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Instead of blast damage and radiation when the bomb explodes it launches flamming sheep over a 4K area. Just a wish.
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you can already load a bomber with enough ords to take down a town, the A-bomb would just encourage people to fly their 29s to space and drop it on the HQ or Capital for kicks. . . other then that there is no use for it here.
and its probably game beaking.
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And whats wrong with that?
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Nope im not joking, I really dont know other then its something to do with hollywood or something over that way.
http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=jessica+alba (http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=jessica+alba)
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And whats wrong with that?
You are talking about giving one (1) player the capability to instantly obliterate an airbase or a strat. That is not a good thing. There is no need to discuss it. It is self evident. There is no valid argument that it would be good for the game in any way.
Wiley.
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And whats wrong with that?
The object of the game is COMBAT, not to avoid it.
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I want a NUKE that when dropped will instantly vaporize the computer of any player that has called for the nuke to be added to this game....
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nukes to experiment on the knights with??? i think not
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ruin all that hard work by the vtards......... :noid
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It what way was Pyro unclear? There will be no nuke in AH.
yeah guys and stop talking about this B29 we will never have it....
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yeah guys and stop talking about this B29 we will never have it....
trying to raise post count? me thinks so.
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trying to raise post count? me thinks so.
unlike you whos posts are ALWAYS on topic and so well thought out and typed with such detail. :rolleyes:
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unlike you whos posts are ALWAYS on topic and so well thought out and typed with such detail. :rolleyes:
Zing!!!!! :noid
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Just gotta say that since Pyro has said no nukie (thank god, bomb****s are already anoying enough), this thread seems kinda pointless.
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I still think htc should play a joke on everyone and show screenshots of the b29 modifications and nuke development, have a perk ord loadout, make it cost 1000 perks, and when someone takes it and drops it, it makes a big flash, but it does the damage of a 100lb bomb. :neener:
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I still think htc should play a joke on everyone and show screenshots of the b29 modifications and nuke development, have a perk ord loadout, make it cost 1000 perks, and when someone takes it and drops it, it makes a big flash, but it does the damage of a 100lb bomb. :neener:
how about the damage of a .303 instead? :P
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trying to raise post count? me thinks so.
Pot, this is Kettle. Colour check send.
:D