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Title: Trunk Space
Post by: Penguin on September 25, 2011, 03:12:42 PM
Hello,

Me and my big mouth, I just said something I couldn't back up.  I was coming home from a robotics competition, and we were trying to get the robot in the car.  As we searched for a good place to put it, I said to my engineering design teacher "If anyone has a Jeep Grand Cherokee we could fit the robot in there- it has more trunk space than a Suburban".  My teacher said "I want those numbers on my desk on Monday".

So here I am, because you guys know a great deal about cars.  In fact, the statement I made came from a Jeep enthusiast on here in a long-forgotten thread.  Now I need to get the facts to back up my point, but I couldn't find any way to compare them.  Does anyone here know which one has more trunk space, Jeep Grand Cherokee, or Chevrolet Suburban?

-Penguin
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Jayhawk on September 25, 2011, 03:17:38 PM
I would imagine that those numbers would vary greatly with year.  Are all the seats in them?  I seem to remember you can remove the back seat of a Chevy Suburban, not sure about the Cherokee.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: skorpion on September 25, 2011, 03:21:53 PM
In fact, the statement I made came from a Jeep enthusiast on here in a long-forgotten thread.

apparantly if its said on the BBS it must hold true everywhere...:rolleyes:

not to mention, you could have just googled this.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: vorticon on September 25, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
go look at the dealer websites. its all right there.



your dead wrong, the jeeps about 1/2 the capacity of a suburban. smarten up.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Melvin on September 25, 2011, 03:51:40 PM
I just did the research and found the answer. It took all of 5 minutes.

However, I won't divulge the information to you because I feel that it is akin to cheating.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Golfer on September 25, 2011, 04:06:34 PM
So you opened your mouth, spouted out some BS that you didn't know if it was true, got called on your "fact" being BS you didn't know if it was true and now post on an internet board to get the answer?

Good one.  You've got a career in comedy as long as you keep your idiocy the subject.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Penguin on September 25, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
So you opened your mouth, spouted out some BS that you didn't know if it was true, got called on your "fact" being BS you didn't know if it was true and now post on an internet board to get the answer?

Good one.  You've got a career in comedy as long as you keep your idiocy the subject.

Relax, it's just the internet. :lol

-Penguin
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: AAJagerX on September 25, 2011, 05:00:03 PM
I hope your teacher gets a good laugh out of this.  I would.

EDIT:  You do know that neither of those vehicles has a "trunk" don't you?  Google "Cargo Space".
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: SPKmes on September 25, 2011, 05:05:38 PM
Something I found funny recently...I sold and item...gave the measurements...all sweet...plenty of space.....but.. the opening to the space was another story....did not matter how you looked at it, the hole to get it into the plentiful area of the interior was just not big enough
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Meatwad on September 25, 2011, 05:09:32 PM
You could just write a paper on the theory of trunk space and the philosophical reasoning of why people think they need it
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: PFactorDave on September 25, 2011, 05:28:01 PM
All that really matters is whether or not the body will...  Never mind...   :bolt:
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Jayhawk on September 25, 2011, 05:32:17 PM
You could just write a paper on the theory of trunk space and the philosophical reasoning of why people think they need it

The conceptualization of a "trunk" was simply man capitulating to the pressures of society to retain materialist ideals and possessions.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: flight17 on September 25, 2011, 05:33:06 PM
just say u thought the suburban was the tahoe and u mixed them up... at least then u can be correct. At least im pretty sure my brother-in-law's 09 Grand Cherokee has more than my brothers 03 Yukon (same as Tahoe) when he has the third row in.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: curry1 on September 25, 2011, 05:45:17 PM
I have suburban it is WAY bigger than any Jeep Grand Cherokee I have ever seen.  Plus you can take out the third row of seats and get even more room.  So...  You are boned.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: morfiend on September 25, 2011, 05:51:29 PM
Peng.


  Just bring the teach an apple then put on your cone hat and sit in the corner.







    :salute
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: saggs on September 25, 2011, 06:05:38 PM
 :lol :lol

Are you blind????    :huh 

Suburbans are much, much larger then Cherokees. They aren't even the same class of vehicle.   Whoever told you that on here was obviously one of the many delusional Jeep fanboys.   Nothing against Jeeps, they are fine vehicles, just a high percentage of Jeep owners need an attitude adjustment in my experience.


Besides as someone already pointed out, neither has a trunk.  So really I could say that a Toyota Corolla has a bigger trunk.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: gyrene81 on September 25, 2011, 06:27:21 PM
penguin, it's going to depend on what year of suburban or jeep you're talking about. rated cargo space information is available on the web, i found the information on the 2011 1/2 & 3/4 ton suburbans in 90 seconds. google is your friend.


*edited because i pulled a penguin and didn't read everything i should have*
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: skorpion on September 25, 2011, 06:32:28 PM
:rofl  why hasn't anyone who responded thus far pointed out the fact the neither a jeep nor a chevy suburban have "trunks"?
uhmm...look at the replies...its been stated already.

I hope your teacher gets a good laugh out of this.  I would.

EDIT:  You do know that neither of those vehicles has a "trunk" don't you?  Google "Cargo Space".
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: gyrene81 on September 25, 2011, 06:35:47 PM
uhmm...look at the replies...its been stated already.
DOH!!! missed jager's edit...  :lol   :rofl   :lol   :D  i plead  :old:   :cheers:
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: CAP1 on September 25, 2011, 06:44:06 PM
cherokees and suburbans don't have trunks. problem solved.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: skorpion on September 25, 2011, 06:45:13 PM
i plead  :old:   :cheers:
NO MERCY! you must now hand over your sight, prefferably your eyeballs. we must check them!(maybe replace them...) :P
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Penguin on September 25, 2011, 07:18:30 PM
Perhaps that's why I couldn't find anything on them.  Update: I looked at the guy's car again, and it happens to be a Yukon XL.  In my haste I misjudged it to be a Suburban.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: saggs on September 25, 2011, 07:21:34 PM
Perhaps that's why I couldn't find anything on them.  Update: I looked at the guy's car again, and it happens to be a Yukon XL.  In my haste I misjudged it to be a Suburban.

-Penguin

Same thing.

And if you can't tell that it's much bigger than a Cherokee (or that neither has a trunk  :lol ), I'd recommend a visit to the ophthalmologist.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: bagrat on September 25, 2011, 07:50:36 PM
You should start thinking of a good way to deter the t0pic as soon as it rises, or avoid the situation entirely and never return to the robot club. EVER!   :devil
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: MaSonZ on September 25, 2011, 07:54:20 PM
did you put thought into this statement? dont mewan to bash you, but the suburban has a much larger "trunk" space.... or course, you could have mentioned something like a Dodge Dakota with a cap, or a ford ranger with a cap, or a chevy S10 with a cap and not had to do research to get "boned" as curry put it.   :bolt:
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Jayhawk on September 25, 2011, 08:32:14 PM
I know we aren't talking about a suburban anymore, but I remember the ones I was used to were really 'people movers' and the cargo space in the back was actually quite small.  So there probably would be more cargo space in a jeep, it can only move half the people though.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: saggs on September 26, 2011, 12:14:20 AM
I know we aren't talking about a suburban anymore, but I remember the ones I was used to were really 'people movers' and the cargo space in the back was actually quite small.  So there probably would be more cargo space in a jeep, it can only move half the people though.

I'll point it out again, the Yukon XL and Suburban are the same thing.  One wears a GMC badge and the other a Bowtie, that's all. 

In most configurations the Suburban seats 8, and with that I'd still bet the Suburban has more cargo space then a Cherokee seating 5.  There are a lot of them around here, and they are quite long so that even with 2 bench seats in back there is lots of cargo area.   Now, it you but a third bench seat in back, (which can be done)  Then yes, the cargo area is only about 12" behind the third bench, but it can then seat 11.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Tec on September 26, 2011, 12:25:37 AM
So how did you get the robot TO the competition?
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: phatzo on September 26, 2011, 01:18:28 AM
So how did you get the robot TO the competition?
The robot crush, killed and destroyed its way there.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: mentalguy on September 26, 2011, 12:40:11 PM
I'd just use a truck. :D
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: icepac on September 26, 2011, 03:50:50 PM
Which seats were in the suburban?
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on September 26, 2011, 06:45:05 PM
Do like cylinder heads, grab a jeep and fill the space with water, measure how many gallons you used  :neener: does your teacher have a suburban?
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: F22RaptorDude on September 26, 2011, 07:01:26 PM
wtf  :huh
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: CAP1 on September 26, 2011, 07:21:36 PM
Do like cylinder heads, grab a jeep and fill the space with water, measure how many gallons you used  :neener: does your teacher have a suburban?


you're gonna confuse the young-uns/
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: F22RaptorDude on September 26, 2011, 07:24:32 PM

you're gonna confuse the young-uns/
I'm just confused on why this became such a conflict
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: grizz441 on September 26, 2011, 07:34:54 PM
Treatise on trunk space?  :old:
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: JOACH1M on September 26, 2011, 07:37:58 PM
they have jeeps and suburbans as normal cars in poland?  :D
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Penguin on September 27, 2011, 08:55:38 PM
Treatise on trunk space?  :old:

 :lol Good one.  Interestingly, I'll have another one ready for release this Friday.  It's more scholarly article than treatise.

-Penguin
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: CAP1 on September 27, 2011, 09:12:30 PM
I'm just confused on why this became such a conflict

i don't see any conflict..... :noid
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: gyrene81 on September 27, 2011, 09:55:11 PM
i don't see any conflict..... :noid
raptordude bumped his head...does it hurt or not? conflict   :D
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Becinhu on September 28, 2011, 12:21:01 PM
Lets consider that the Suburban has 3rd row...If you can fold down both 2nd and 3rd rows, by sheer length of the vehicle the Suburban would have more trunk space than the cherokee even with the new body style.  With the back seat up, the Grand Cherokee (2011) has 38.3 cu ft of storage.  With the back seat folded it has 68.3 cu ft of storage space.  I sell Jeep, Dodge, Ram, and Chrysler so I favor my own products, but storage space wise I would give the edge to the Suburban just by total vehicle size.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: grizz441 on September 28, 2011, 12:21:47 PM
:lol Good one.  Interestingly, I'll have another one ready for release this Friday.  It's more scholarly article than treatise.

-Penguin

I can't wait
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Shuffler on September 28, 2011, 12:25:24 PM
Even a Tahoe has more room that a Jeep.

Remove rear seats and fold second row.

You only need enough room for your trunk monkey really.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Dichotomy on September 28, 2011, 12:56:33 PM
(http://www.djp3.net/codexperductum/archives/trunkMonkey.jpg)
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: fbEagle on September 28, 2011, 04:18:33 PM
Chevy suburban. We have one. Now if you want trunk space take a look in my Buick Lesabre! I can fit 6 people in the back. Now dont even get me started about how many bodies i can put in there!  :devil
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: clerick on September 28, 2011, 04:58:05 PM
I have suburban it is WAY bigger than any Jeep Grand Cherokee I have ever seen.  Plus you can take out the third row of seats and get even more room.  So...  You are boned.

I have a ford Excursion it is WAY bigger than any suburban I have ever seen.  Plus you can take out the third row of seats and get even more room.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: CAP1 on September 28, 2011, 05:05:05 PM
I have a ford Excursion it is WAY bigger than any suburban I have ever seen.  Plus you can take out the third row of seats and get even more room.

 you ain't seen the old suburbans than, have ya? front and back ends in different zip codes.......nothing in the way........got a friend has one, we can put 4x8 plywood in there, without moving anything. he doesn't have any of the other seats in it though.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: clerick on September 28, 2011, 05:12:57 PM
you ain't seen the old suburbans than, have ya? front and back ends in different zip codes.......nothing in the way........got a friend has one, we can put 4x8 plywood in there, without moving anything. he doesn't have any of the other seats in it though.

With the rear seat out I can fit 35 sheets of drywall :P
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: CAP1 on September 28, 2011, 08:07:57 PM
With the rear seat out I can fit 35 sheets of drywall :P
having owned neither, but having been in and worked on both.........i think the suburban wins that match.


 that being said......i may be getting an expedition from my car dealer customer....he owes me money, and the price is cheap to begin with.........
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: clerick on September 28, 2011, 09:13:32 PM
truth be told, it's not a concern. I just like trolling the "bigger is better" crowd :)
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: CAP1 on September 28, 2011, 09:44:42 PM
truth be told, it's not a concern. I just like trolling the "bigger is better" crowd :)

 :rofl

i still want that expedition though. i kinda wanna get rid of my trusty old 85 e350, because it's rusting away faster than i can fix the rot now....and it's got well over 300k on the odometer now. the problem i have though, is i have to be able to move either of my car trailers, and the expedition would fill that role....and look a LOT better than the ole e350.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: phatzo on September 28, 2011, 10:19:01 PM
truth be told, it's not a concern. I just like trolling the "bigger is better" crowd :)
compensating ?
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: clerick on September 28, 2011, 11:00:10 PM
yes  :bhead
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: flight17 on September 28, 2011, 11:39:11 PM
i may be getting an expedition from my car dealer customer....he owes me money, and the price is cheap to begin with.........
year?
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: ScottyK on October 01, 2011, 01:18:50 AM
back in highschool 92-96, a friend and i got 20 people in his moms  suburban, no 3rd row. :devil
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: CAP1 on October 01, 2011, 07:43:27 AM
year?

98. it's used. a car dealer customer of mine has it. he's supposed to bring it by the shop today. if there's not much wrong with it, i'm gonna hook my enclosed car trailer to it. if it doesn't sag, then it's probably sold.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Rash on October 01, 2011, 07:57:48 AM
Oh man, thought this was about......

http://youtu.be/2ImZTwYwCug
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: Shuffler on October 01, 2011, 10:11:30 AM
98. it's used. a car dealer customer of mine has it. he's supposed to bring it by the shop today. if there's not much wrong with it, i'm gonna hook my enclosed car trailer to it. if it doesn't sag, then it's probably sold.

My 2500 HD has airbags for when I pull the 28' or 22' loaded to the gills.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: CAP1 on October 01, 2011, 05:52:02 PM
My 2500 HD has airbags for when I pull the 28' or 22' loaded to the gills.

well, that's gonna be one of the tests before i buy this. it needs to hook up to my enclosed car trailer, without sagging, or it's a no sale. one of my customers uses his 99 to pull a fully loaded trailer that size, with nothing done, it doesn't sag at all.
Title: Re: Trunk Space
Post by: clerick on October 01, 2011, 05:57:33 PM
well, that's gonna be one of the tests before i buy this. it needs to hook up to my enclosed car trailer, without sagging, or it's a no sale. one of my customers uses his 99 to pull a fully loaded trailer that size, with nothing done, it doesn't sag at all.

Some of the higher end Expedidtions came with load leveling suspensions stock and it was an option on the lower models.  Easy way to check, turn it on and if it starts to rise up a few inches you are good to go.  Kick it into 4x4 low and you get another inch and a half or so too.