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Title: Is it fair to say...
Post by: uptown on October 14, 2011, 08:30:12 AM
kids ruin the game? I think so. I base this assumption on Getbacks thread. I'm curious what you think.

BTW kid is defined as under 18  :salute

Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: ImADot on October 14, 2011, 08:39:49 AM
It's spread across all demographics.

...remainder of post will stay in my head because I'd rather not get rule #'d by Skuzzy...
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: uptown on October 14, 2011, 08:42:28 AM
It's spread across all demographics.

...remainder of post will stay in my head because I'd rather not get rule #'d by Skuzzy...
PM me then. I won't report you. I honestly want and value your opinion.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Bronk on October 14, 2011, 08:44:48 AM
kids ruin the game? I think so. I base this assumption on Getbacks thread. I'm curious what you think.

BTW kid is defined as under 18  :salute


Kids do not ruin the game. Idiots do that and they come in all ages.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: The Fugitive on October 14, 2011, 08:45:12 AM
I agree, its not just one group that is at fault. If your going to blame a group, blame "gamers". Gamers are a different breed and play the game a different way.

Gamers play to win, and that means by any means possible. Simmers on the other hand are all about "how" you play, the end game just isn't that important.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Lusche on October 14, 2011, 08:45:36 AM
kids ruin the game?

No, grumpy old men do. The most annoying, thoroughly disturbed players had always been "adults".

Seriously, we need as much kids as we can get to keep this game alive. Get ‘em while they’re young!
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: TheBug on October 14, 2011, 08:48:20 AM
I agree with Fugitive.  :salute
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 14, 2011, 08:48:47 AM
No, grumpy old men do. The most annoying, thoroughly disturbed players had always been "adults".

Seriously, we need as much kids as we can get to keep this game alive. Get ‘em while they’re young!

I've found younger players need more attention because they need help or are curious about the mechanics of the game.  On the other hand I've found far more cry-babies who are adults, matter of fact I cant think of any younger players that were cry babies nearly as bad as the adults.

I agree, get more kids!   :aok   :D
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: uptown on October 14, 2011, 08:55:44 AM
 :lol I have to admit you guys do have some good points. Gawd I hope I'm not turning into a grumpy old man  :noid

I kind of agree with Fugi too, but I tend to think of most if not all folks under 18 as gamers. I forget that gamers come in all ages I guess. Then again Snailman is right about keeping the game alive and Smokinloon is spot on about crying adults...Maybe I should have replaced the word "kids" with "gamers" instead?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: guncrasher on October 14, 2011, 09:00:47 AM
No, grumpy old men do. The most annoying, thoroughly disturbed players had always been "adults".

Seriously, we need as much kids as we can get to keep this game alive. Get ‘em while they’re young!

so true lusche, so true.

semp
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Slate on October 14, 2011, 09:12:19 AM
  Someone last night complained he had to fly far to find a fight. I assumed he was young, he was definitly a Noob, but wanted instant gratification like the Xbox genertion does.  :x
  That doesn't bother me as much as the so-called "Veterans" of the game that puff out thier chest and name call everyone that doesn't have thier K/D ratio.  :neener:
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: uptown on October 14, 2011, 09:36:58 AM
OK gentlemen clearly it is NOT fair to say that "kids ruin gameplay". Ty for the responses and enlightenment  :D I am off to bed  :salute
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Shuffler on October 14, 2011, 10:10:35 AM
kids ruin the game? I think so. I base this assumption on Getbacks thread. I'm curious what you think.

BTW kid is defined as under 18  :salute



I'm 52 and completely disagree.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: captain1ma on October 14, 2011, 10:46:19 AM
im in my early 50's, i know guys as old and older then me, that are the dweebiest players around. they pick, they HO, then they scream about ethics, and how the game has degenerated, but only when they get beat. i try to lead by example. sure i ho on occasion, i pick on occasion too. but i don't scream or yell when it happens to me, i just up a new plane and start over.

i think blaming the younger crowd is a way of excusing that particular persons behavior. there are bad players of all ages, as fugitive said. picking on the young players is just a way of justifying that they, themselves, are crappy players.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: LCADolby on October 14, 2011, 11:34:22 AM
I don't think under 18's ruin the game in general. Lame gamers/gaming-actions exist throughout every age group gaming.

The only people that ruin the game are the ones that hold the trigger down on the first merge.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: The Fugitive on October 14, 2011, 11:56:47 AM
Personally, I think the game is suppose to be an on going battle. It was in the old days. I don't know what Hitech and Pyro where shooting for when they first started, but that's what we had.

I understand we need new.blood to keep the game alive and growing as well. What I would like to see changed is the game score/reward system. Make it so that combat is rewarded, and work around that avoid combat are penalized.

Most gamers  "play to win". Whether that means a better score, perks, name in lights,.or win the war, they have their goal and do what ever it takes to get there. What if a kill only counts toward the name.in lights.if it happens 1 mile away from a base? Vulching may cut back. What if the last person to command a cv loses 25 perks if.the cv is sunk? I bet more people would avoid playing chicken with them or running them into the shore.

Sure there are players who don't care about score, but most of.them are.here to fight, and those that are here just to grief others well, that what mods are for I think.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: grizz441 on October 14, 2011, 12:11:21 PM
Zombies ruin this game.  Motion to ban all zombies from aces high.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Slash27 on October 14, 2011, 12:18:12 PM
Zombies ruin this game.  Motion to ban all zombies from aces high.
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Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: OOZ662 on October 14, 2011, 12:36:18 PM
I've played since I was 13, and everyone's always loved me. :D
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: lunatic1 on October 14, 2011, 12:50:15 PM
no i do not think kids ruin the game------it ruins the game for the kids when others of various older ages jump on them-chew them out,etc.i know 1 player that stopped letting his kid play for a long time when the kid actually got cussed by an older player.i think anybody who pays should get to play without being griped at.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Ardy123 on October 14, 2011, 12:52:51 PM
No, grumpy old men do. The most annoying, thoroughly disturbed players had always been "adults".

Seriously, we need as much kids as we can get to keep this game alive. Get ‘em while they’re young!

 :aok :aok agree 100%
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: --)SF---- on October 14, 2011, 12:58:22 PM
I happen to like 14 year olds...        :banana:
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Dragon on October 14, 2011, 12:59:55 PM
Kids come in all age brackets.



It is fair to say that immaturity kills the game, not kids.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: mbailey on October 14, 2011, 01:31:22 PM
I think its great the amount of "kids" that play the game.......Look at it this way, they could be playing any other game online, but they chose AH a WWII sim. Anything that sparks intrest in the younger generation to help keep the memory alive of what the real  guys suffered thru, imho can be seen as a great teaching tool, not only a game. I give AH alot of credit in my young sons love of everything WWII aviation. Sitting on my lap when he was younger (5 or so),watching me play put the history in a format that made it intresting. Not a old history book,or an old TV program, but something new and exciting to watch. Hes now 11 and can (and has) had intelligent conversations with veterans regarding their experiances in the war.

Its us older folks responsibility to help kindle the flame of intrest in these younger gents that play the game......answer a question, help them out, be a little patient when one acts their age etc.......Like I said, they are the next generation.

Proof.....my sons room    :aok
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Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: uptown on October 14, 2011, 01:53:22 PM
I like your remarks Mbailey, and your sons room for that matter  :lol Forgive me if I sounded harsh on the kids but I'm just trying to make reason out of why someone would feel the need to hide boats in mountains or jump sides to sink them. I find it..well sad that grown adults would these things. I would expect it out of A 14 yr. old but not out of adults. The only thing I can figure is that the importance of score/rank must be it. Whatever the reason is behind it, I wish it could be remedied because it turns off the honest players which IMO isn't healthy for the game. It just sets a bad example.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: OOZ662 on October 14, 2011, 01:54:18 PM
Ah, the Dell keyboard...all of our schools have them, and I've probably typed the most on one of those...possibly because I "borrowed" one and still use it. :lol
Who broke the B-29's wing? D:
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Wiley on October 14, 2011, 01:57:07 PM
The only thing I can figure is that the importance of score/rank must be it. Whatever the reason is behind it, I wish it could be remedied because it turns off the honest players which IMO isn't healthy for the game. It just sets a bad example.

For some, maybe it is score/rank.  For others, it's just straight up dweebishness.  They enjoy wrecking others' enjoyment.  It's a fact of life with online gaming sadly.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Ardy123 on October 14, 2011, 01:58:26 PM
Children are the lifeblood of the game's future. The number of people who play air combat sims is perpetually declining, and it is imperative to have a new blood to make up for all the older players who play less and less. Many of the AH players were from AW, and were kids then. They don't live forever and their lives change, the game needs the kids to keep it going.

Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: uptown on October 14, 2011, 01:59:30 PM
Yes Wiley I suppose you're right.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: crazyivan on October 14, 2011, 01:59:42 PM
Kids do not ruin the game. Idiots do that and they come in all ages.
:aok
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Getback on October 14, 2011, 02:09:46 PM
I don't know who it is as far as demographics. I can't blame any age group. It's folks that take advantage of low numbers and side balancing.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: coombz on October 14, 2011, 02:15:38 PM
Forgive me if I sounded harsh on the kids but I'm just trying to make reason out of why someone would feel the need to hide boats in mountains or jump sides to sink them. I find it..well sad that grown adults would these things. I would expect it out of A 14 yr. old but not out of adults.

honestly, it sounds like you have a lot to learn about human nature!

it's a sad fact that people (in general) will behave as badly as they are allowed to
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: mbailey on October 14, 2011, 02:25:31 PM
 

Who broke the B-29's wing? D:

 Lets just say that all the planes he has arent just for looking good  When he was younger he played with them alot.........He has a few that ive rescued and put on the shelf in my office, and a couple more held together with hope and testors glue  :lol
I like your remarks Mbailey, and your sons room for that matter  :lol Forgive me if I sounded harsh on the kids but I'm just trying to make reason out of why someone would feel the need to hide boats in mountains or jump sides to sink them. I find it..well sad that grown adults would these things. I would expect it out of A 14 yr. old but not out of adults. The only thing I can figure is that the importance of score/rank must be it. Whatever the reason is behind it, I wish it could be remedied because it turns off the honest players which IMO isn't healthy for the game. It just sets a bad example.
Ultimately i knew what you were getting at,  I didnt take it as bashing the kids.<S> I think you statement above reflects more of what you were looking to say

Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Babalonian on October 14, 2011, 03:06:18 PM
No, grumpy old men do. The most annoying, thoroughly disturbed players had always been "adults".

Seriously, we need as much kids as we can get to keep this game alive. Get ‘em while they’re young!

I knew I saw you driving around last night.
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Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: uptown on October 14, 2011, 03:12:02 PM
Thx Mbailey and <<S>> back at ya.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: olds442 on October 14, 2011, 03:14:27 PM
im...such....a...bad...person ...YOUR RIGHT :cry :cry :cry :cry
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: grizz441 on October 14, 2011, 03:31:45 PM
I knew I saw you driving around last night.
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That's creepy.  (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/supbeam/sadbanana.gif)
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: pervert on October 14, 2011, 04:05:16 PM
Never had any hassle from a kid in this game, the grown ups sure do cry a lot though!  :old:
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: AKLdButt on October 14, 2011, 05:21:52 PM
Chat model and the elitist goofs do more to screw this game than young people.

There are so many games out there that young people who are an issue won't stay long. We outlast most or they get it over time.

I think long term members behaving badly in 200 and team chat are more damaging overall. The media they play in while being goofs is the most visible to new gamers on the servers.


I find it funny that you think it's only young people doing silly stuff. You simply only have to listen to 200 for a few minutes to see a number of older people who think they are still funny and hip. Sheep, yes many of you are sheep :)



LB
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Wiley on October 14, 2011, 05:26:59 PM
Chat model and the elitist goofs do more to screw this game than young people.

There are so many games out there that young people who are an issue won't stay long. We outlast most or they get it over time.

I think long term members behaving badly in 200 and team chat are more damaging overall. The media they play in while being goofs is the most visible to new gamers on the servers.


I find it funny that you think it's only young people doing silly stuff. You simply only have to listen to 200 for a few minutes to see a number of older people who think they are still funny and hip. Sheep, yes many of you are sheep :)



LB

...I'll just leave this here.

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Wiley.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: M0nkey_Man on October 14, 2011, 05:32:18 PM
i'm 15 and disagree  :aok
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: Raphael on October 14, 2011, 05:33:44 PM
this means i ruin the game until 16/11!!  :D YAY! I am a game ruiner!
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: AKLdButt on October 14, 2011, 05:39:31 PM
Cute toon, IMO still nothing more than something to make the sheep feel better.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: DMGOD on October 14, 2011, 06:38:32 PM
Chat model and the elitist goofs do more to screw this game than young people.

There are so many games out there that young people who are an issue won't stay long. We outlast most or they get it over time.

I think long term members behaving badly in 200 and team chat are more damaging overall. The media they play in while being goofs is the most visible to new gamers on the servers.


I find it funny that you think it's only young people doing silly stuff. You simply only have to listen to 200 for a few minutes to see a number of older people who think they are still funny and hip. Sheep, yes many of you are sheep :)



LB

gonna be a long fall off that high horse
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: jay on October 14, 2011, 07:03:32 PM
I agree, its not just one group that is at fault. If your going to blame a group, blame "gamers". Gamers are a different breed and play the game a different way.

Gamers play to win, and that means by any means possible. Simmers on the other hand are all about "how" you play, the end game just isn't that important.

what if i like to be both?? im 15 and i dont ruin the game
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: caldera on October 14, 2011, 07:23:54 PM
I ruined the game.  Sorry about that.  Won't happen again.

<Andy Reid voice> I gotta do a better job.  :angel:
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: 1Boner on October 14, 2011, 07:40:19 PM
I'd bet a weeks pay that it wasn't "children" that hid those cVs. :bolt:
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: JUGgler on October 14, 2011, 08:47:10 PM
OMG, it's mind bendingly astonishing how little I've come to care!!



JUGgler
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: shiv on October 14, 2011, 09:19:58 PM
I'd bet a weeks pay that it wasn't "children" that hid those cVs. :bolt:


I wouldn't take that bet.
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: 1Boner on October 15, 2011, 11:48:28 AM
If they were rook cVs, I would. :noid
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: uptown on October 15, 2011, 12:56:29 PM
OMG, it's mind bendingly astonishing how little I've come to care!!



JUGgler
No Uptown! Don't feed the troll!!!!!!  :bhead
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: JOACH1M on October 15, 2011, 12:58:32 PM
Everyone under 18 shouldn't play?



Good bye  :old: :bolt:
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: uptown on October 15, 2011, 01:42:24 PM
Come backkkk Joach1m...come backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk  :noid
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: JOACH1M on October 15, 2011, 03:49:38 PM
Come backkkk Joach1m...come backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk  :noid
Im leaving in another 2 Yeats  :airplane: :banana:
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: AKLdButt on October 15, 2011, 04:55:54 PM
DM, There is no spoon or in this case horse.....

 :old:
Title: Re: Is it fair to say...
Post by: DMGOD on October 22, 2011, 11:54:44 PM
 :aok