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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CAP1 on November 12, 2011, 09:20:18 PM
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well, to be honest, i can't say anything. i'm too dam busy drooling. :devil
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-2012-Mustang-Cobra-Jet-upgrade-Supercharger-Pkg-/120810205774?pt=Race_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_&hash=item1c20d9724e
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100 grand for a mustang... I don't get it. Spend that much money and you might as well get a lightly used ferrari or a ZR1 vette, either of which will go straight just about as fast but can also turn.
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100 grand for a mustang... I don't get it. Spend that much money and you might as well get a lightly used ferrari or a ZR1 vette, either of which will go straight just about as fast but can also turn.
so a zr1 will run mid 8's? :devil
i gotta correct myself. they'll only go high 8's, or high 9's depending on the supercharger. it is also a factory production car. namely the quickest factory production car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC-7Gy1Gx6M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un5qQLuRIMo
ifn ya wanna turn in a mustang, then it's the gt, or the boss302.
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for 100 grand i want wheels that match and a paint job. but that's just me.
and only 430hp out of a supercharged engine? :headscratch:
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over 100 grand for a non street legal car, sad thing is some chump will buy it.
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The 500hp 4L sounds interesting though! I wonder if you can just get the parts and slap them on your basic V6 stang?
Hmm,yes it's a V6 mustang so lighter frontend,easier to balance and likely turn a corner or 2,then insurance would also be cheaper too! Not like your going to call up the insurance carrier and say"I just bump the hp up in my stang does that raise the rates... :P
Cap,100 grand for a nonstreet legal car might have you drooling,I'd rather roll around in the cash myself! :devil
:salute
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If i had 100G, i'd be putting it down on the Newest Viper. not on the fatstang. :bolt:
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well, to be honest, i can't say anything. i'm too dam busy drooling. :devil
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-2012-Mustang-Cobra-Jet-upgrade-Supercharger-Pkg-/120810205774?pt=Race_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_&hash=item1c20d9724e
Shoot, this heap won't touch the Camaro ZL1 for the price... Not to mention the Corvette ZR1 will spank it all day long at the track... Keep dreamin Ford. :D
Now, if you want to compare the GT to the Vette, that's more of an equal match. :cheers:
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so a zr1 will run mid 8's? :devil
i gotta correct myself. they'll only go high 8's, or high 9's depending on the supercharger. it is also a factory production car. namely the quickest factory production car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC-7Gy1Gx6M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un5qQLuRIMo
ifn ya wanna turn in a mustang, then it's the gt, or the boss302.
He's thinking about a useable vehicle that can be driven on the street.
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for 100 grand i want wheels that match and a paint job. but that's just me.
and only 430hp out of a supercharged engine? :headscratch:
probably limited by the classes they run in. these are built for one thing, and one thing only.......they are factory dragsters. and they do it very well apparently. :aok
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over 100 grand for a non street legal car, sad thing is some chump will buy it.
they build 50 each year...and if i recall, they sell em all.....with ease.
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Shoot, this heap won't touch the Camaro ZL1 for the price... Not to mention the Corvette ZR1 will spank it all day long at the track... Keep dreamin Ford. :D
Now, if you want to compare the GT to the Vette, that's more of an equal match. :cheers:
you're missing the point. this is a factory produced race car for super stock, ...i think that's the class.....
Both superchargers help the 5.4-liter V8 power out at a National Hot Rod Association-compliant 425 horsepower, though the boosted mills can be tweaked to output hundreds more ponies without much fuss. Owners of the 2010 model year Cobra Jet told us that the TVS unit will cruise through a quarter mile in under 10 seconds, while the Whipple version will cross the finish line in under nine seconds.
from here....http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/04/ford-delivers-2012-mustang-cobra-jet-racers-lays-claim-to-quick/#continued
and of course there's the 2013, which they'll be going after all the classes, not just superstock....
http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2011/10/24/mustang-cobra-jet-confirmed-for-2013-will-include-5-0-liter-v8-options/
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they build 50 each year...and if i recall, they sell em all.....with ease.
Cain't cure stoopid :)
Seriously, that car looks like a wet dream for a mustang enthusiast. Unfortunately I think a lot of mustang enthusiasm on this BBS ends when the price goes much beyond invoice :lol
I could see myself getting some sort of mustang for a fun car to drive when I don't need to haul around 2 little kids, but I don't see spending anywhere near 100 grand on a mustang of any type. If I'm going to spend that much money, I'm going to get something bred for overall performance, and the mustang's center of gravity alone overshoots the mark by at least a foot. For 100k I could get one heck of a nice M-series beemer, a forced induction mercedes, any number of jaguars, almost any non-turbo porsche, a Z06 vette with enough left over to add a blower... you get the picture. Mustangs are nice but I don't know if this forum has many "100 grand nice" mustang enthusiasts :O
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Cant you buy Mustang for 30G's invest another 20 and make it just as straight line quick?
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save 92,000 and buy an MR2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNp_d3B-Lw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNp_d3B-Lw&feature=related)
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Cain't cure stoopid :)
Seriously, that car looks like a wet dream for a mustang enthusiast. Unfortunately I think a lot of mustang enthusiasm on this BBS ends when the price goes much beyond invoice :lol
I could see myself getting some sort of mustang for a fun car to drive when I don't need to haul around 2 little kids, but I don't see spending anywhere near 100 grand on a mustang of any type. If I'm going to spend that much money, I'm going to get something bred for overall performance, and the mustang's center of gravity alone overshoots the mark by at least a foot. For 100k I could get one heck of a nice M-series beemer, a forced induction mercedes, any number of jaguars, almost any non-turbo porsche, a Z06 vette with enough left over to add a blower... you get the picture. Mustangs are nice but I don't know if this forum has many "100 grand nice" mustang enthusiasts :O
if i had the money, and were still as into drag racing as i used to be, i'd jump all over something like that. it's basically a turnkey superstock racer.......and you know it's right.
i think ford's aiming at those that don't have the time to build themselves with this. and as noted, they'll be including the 5 liter too, and going after all the nhra classes.
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save 92,000 and buy an MR2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNp_d3B-Lw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNp_d3B-Lw&feature=related)
I'll bet he was really popular :rofl
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Cant you buy Mustang for 30G's invest another 20 and make it just as straight line quick?
by the time you've bought the car, stripped it, modified the suspension, changed the rear, brakes, added the supercharger, and engine(remember, the cobrajets use 5.4 liters), built and installed either the race ready c4, or powerslide, installed the rollcage, installed the associated electrical and fuel systems, if you aren't over that cost, you're gonna be pretty dam close....then there's all of your labor too.
or if you happen to be financially blessed, you can cut a check for 90-100k, and go racing. :aok
i think the boss302r(i think they may have changed that designation to s for 2012) costs about the same, and remember,.....they came within a bears hair of taking the manufacturers championship from bmw in the continental tire challenge this year. and that is again in a factory built car. :aok
i basically just posted that link, 'cause it's a ford drag racers wet dream on wheels.
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is there money in drag racing or is it just for pride?
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save 92,000 and buy an MR2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNp_d3B-Lw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNp_d3B-Lw&feature=related)
find one beating a new one. that was a fox body stang. they were high 14 second cars at best, if left stock. mid 15's on average.
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is there money in drag racing or is it just for pride?
i think for the "john forces", "warren johnsons", "don prudhommes", "shirly muldownys", and the rest of the "big" racers there is. i don't know what's in it for super stockers, or street stockers.
when we used to run the camaro, our winnings basically went back into the car. mostly, because about the time we got the car figured out, is about when the engine(454) started nickel and diming us.
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any sport which isnt all about the money is good with me :aok
(and if it involves lots of horsepower then all the better :D)
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any sport which isnt all about the money is good with me :aok
(and if it involves lots of horsepower then all the better :D)
i hear ya on that one.
virtually every single time i climbed outta that camaro, or my 89gt, it was the same rush. i just wanna try road racing now, seeing as i've finally got a car that could easily run with the big dogs.....and perhaps that rush will last a little longer than 10-12 seconds at a time
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There's no money in drag racing. My coworker has raced for years and runs in $500 to win events. That isn't going to cut it.
The guys/gals who run every week in the gamblers while I'm goofing off on street nights and test and tunes have $20,000-60,000 cars to win a couple hundred bucks. The pro mod cars are six figure cars in $2000-5000 to win races.
Then there's the trucks/trailers/tools/support/labor and time investments.
You have to love it and use your winnings to offset the costs of your hobby.
Hell I want a GT500 to use as a track day car. I'll never be "in the black" financially with it but 4-5 road course track days a year is going to be a heck of a lot of fun.
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There's no money in drag racing. My coworker has raced for years and runs in $500 to win events. That isn't going to cut it.
The guys/gals who run every week in the gamblers while I'm goofing off on street nights and test and tunes have $20,000-60,000 cars to win a couple hundred bucks. The pro mod cars are six figure cars in $2000-5000 to win races.
Then there's the trucks/trailers/tools/support/labor and time investments.
You have to love it and use your winnings to offset the costs of your hobby.
Hell I want a GT500 to use as a track day car. I'll never be "in the black" financially with it but 4-5 road course track days a year is going to be a heck of a lot of fun.
on gamblers night, i've lost to....and later beaten.......19 second mercurys. that loss was funny actually. i was dialed somewhere around the 10.20's, and he was in the upper 19's. i can tell ya, that light seemed to take forever.
i clearly remember thinking "i ain't gonna catch him, i ain't gonna catch him, i ain't.....chit!!! i got him!!" as i get off the throttle, on the brakes, and still go cruisin by him, to run out by nearly 2 full tenths.
it was 2 or 3 weeks later that i lined up next to that same dood.......'cept i was dialed around 10.10 or so, and i ran my number on the money. :aok
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find one beating a new one. that was a fox body stang. they were high 14 second cars at best, if left stock. mid 15's on average.
Without knowing the particulars of the MR2,stock they run about the same times.It's only got 200hp and 200 footpounds of torque.
I have seen afew MR2's pushing over 450 hp and that's without No2. I've wanted 1 of these for years but the prices were just too high or they were righthand drives,these days though the prices have fallen to reasonable. If I wasn't such a tightwad,I'd spend the 4 or 5 grand and get 1,they're almost like mini Ferraris that you can service at any Toyota dealer.
YMMV.
:salute
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Without knowing the particulars of the MR2,stock they run about the same times.It's only got 200hp and 200 footpounds of torque.
I have seen afew MR2's pushing over 450 hp and that's without No2. I've wanted 1 of these for years but the prices were just too high or they were righthand drives,these days though the prices have fallen to reasonable. If I wasn't such a tightwad,I'd spend the 4 or 5 grand and get 1,they're almost like mini Ferraris that you can service at any Toyota dealer.
YMMV.
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when i look at things like them, i still think "Golly-gee, that'd make a FUN v-8 swap!" i think that with pretty much any of the 2 seaters.....i have one customer that almost gave me his mg when i told him that.....'cause it wasn't starting at the pumps out front. if he had, i'd have ripped everything out, and plunked an ohv 5 liter into her.
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Cap,
Would be kinda tough to swap a V8 into a MR2,I suppose there's a few V8 front drivers that might work,remember the engine is in the back! Then if you managed the swap you'd have issues with too much weight out back,they're tough enough to drive in stock trim,cant imagine what it would be like with a couple extra 100 pounds.
You don't dare lift off gas in a corner or the rear will quickly become the front,that would be made much worse with extra weight in back. Those MR2's,last gen,are around 2400 lbs so just an extra 50 or so HP makes a huge difference and you can accomplish that with a simple intercooler upgrade.
:salute
PS: they're nothing like an MG,they have heat,electrics work and they start even when it's not raining!!!! :D
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Cap,
Would be kinda tough to swap a V8 into a MR2,I suppose there's a few V8 front drivers that might work,remember the engine is in the back! Then if you managed the swap you'd have issues with too much weight out back,they're tough enough to drive in stock trim,cant imagine what it would be like with a couple extra 100 pounds.
You don't dare lift off gas in a corner or the rear will quickly become the front,that would be made much worse with extra weight in back. Those MR2's,last gen,are around 2400 lbs so just an extra 50 or so HP makes a huge difference and you can accomplish that with a simple intercooler upgrade.
:salute
PS: they're nothing like an MG,they have heat,electrics work and they start even when it's not raining!!!! :D
welllll......who says i'd keep the engine in the rear? :devil
but then again, didn't there used to be a kit to help install a 350 chevy into the back of a fiero?
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If I had $100k to get "One Car"?
It would have to be this:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/gt500kr.jpg)
1968 GT500KR in Highland Green, to me there is no other color.
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If I had $100k to get "One Car"?
It would have to be this:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/gt500kr.jpg)
1968 GT500KR in Highland Green, to me there is no other color.
ok...ya got me htere.....although it'd be black, with a manual tranny :aok
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ok...ya got me htere.....although it'd be black, with a manual tranny :aok
Great minds think alike. :cheers:
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so a zr1 will run mid 8's? :devil
i gotta correct myself. they'll only go high 8's, or high 9's depending on the supercharger. it is also a factory production car. namely the quickest factory production car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC-7Gy1Gx6M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un5qQLuRIMo
ifn ya wanna turn in a mustang, then it's the gt, or the boss302.
I thought there was a 500+ maybe 520+ horsepower camaro in production. Making it the fastest production car I could be mistaken.
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I thought there was a 500+ maybe 520+ horsepower camaro in production. Making it the fastest production car I could be mistaken.
i said quickest. i think the veyron is still the fastest at 267mph.
you ever seen a factory produced car that'll run mid to high 8 second 1/4 miles? even the yenkos, thunderbolts, and hemis of the 60's don't come close to that.
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i said quickest. i think the veyron is still the fastest at 267mph.
you ever seen a factory produced car that'll run mid to high 8 second 1/4 miles? even the yenkos, thunderbolts, and hemis of the 60's don't come close to that.
I guess not. That is fast as hell.
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I guess not. That is fast as hell.
on the episode where capt. slow drove it, i kept thinking how much i'd friggin LOVE to have been able to be behind the wheel of that car....even if it was only that one time, and i couldn't keep the car........
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I thought there was a 500+ maybe 520+ horsepower camaro in production. Making it the fastest production car I could be mistaken.
580hp starts production January. Will have full track tuned suspension too.
ZL1... it is also the first GM production car with negative lift.
Most of yall probably saw the video of the Veyron running into the water... that happened just south of me.
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580hp starts production January. Will have full track tuned suspension too.
ZL1... it is also the first GM production car with negative lift.
Most of yall probably saw the video of the Veyron running into the water... that happened just south of me.
did see that video........was ashame really.
the zl1 still isn't gonna run 8's or 9's. :devil
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did see that video........was ashame really.
the zl1 still isn't gonna run 8's or 9's. :devil
Maybe not but it will run to the corner store for milk,bet you can do that with the "8" second ford.
:salute
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580hp starts production January. Will have full track tuned suspension too.
ZL1... it is also the first GM production car with negative lift.
Most of yall probably saw the video of the Veyron running into the water... that happened just south of me.
When you say negative lift do you mean down-force? I am not trying to correct you just wondering if those two terms are interchangeable.
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Maybe not but it will run to the corner store for milk,bet you can do that with the "8" second ford.
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no, you can't....but you can do that in the 11.9, or 12.0 second ford. :aok
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find one beating a new one. that was a fox body stang. they were high 14 second cars at best, if left stock. mid 15's on average.
1991 MR2 Turbo later model j-spec engine with a bigger turbo and injectors VS 2007 Mustang GT Paxton Novi Supercharger
kid says stang won but light shows mr2 won
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIQ6Xapd9z8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIQ6Xapd9z8)
check out this little mr2 700rwhp 6.879 105mph in the 1/8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsIxTSPNDKo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsIxTSPNDKo)
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1991 MR2 Turbo later model j-spec engine with a bigger turbo and injectors VS 2007 Mustang GT Paxton Novi Supercharger
kid says stang won but light shows mr2 won
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIQ6Xapd9z8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIQ6Xapd9z8)
check out this little mr2 700rwhp 6.879 105mph in the 1/8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsIxTSPNDKo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsIxTSPNDKo)
7,000 hp? what's he got, a keith black top fuel engine in it?
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7,000 hp? what's he got, a keith black top fuel engine in it?
700 rwhp
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700 rwhp
Twin,
did you see Baumgatners MR2 turn 9.72 in the 1/4 mile? the first run shows how squirrely they can be!
:salute
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Twin,
did you see Baumgatners MR2 turn 9.72 in the 1/4 mile? the first run shows how squirrely they can be!
:salute
we had a couple of straight 6 supras running mid to high 7's at atco a few years back........the difference on all this......the cobrajet is a factory built car, produced by ford. not something that one of us hotrodded. don't forget....i got an 800hp camaro sitting in my garage.
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.i got an 800hp camaro sitting in my garage.
i still have some hope for you then :rofl
Twin,
did you see Baumgatners MR2 turn 9.72 in the 1/4 mile? the first run shows how squirrely they can be!
:salute
yes they can be
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i still have some hope for you then :rofl
yes they can be
yea, i got one problem though...now that i have car payments, i can't afford the new slicks, front tires, or new lexan that the camaro needs././...... :bhead