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Title: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: USCH on November 13, 2011, 06:19:51 PM
Ever since the new patch i have been seeing that almost 100% of the time, when somone shoots down one or 2 of my bombers the game will crash and it goes directly to desktop. most of the time it is when the 2nd drone is hit. but in the last month i have experianced crashs that i have never gotten befor. I did a full clean of my pc harddrive (its only used for this game so nothing else is on it) re installed everything to make sure it wasnt something on my end. but its making so i cant fly bombers if i even have a chance of getting shot.  :bhead any more info you need ill be glad to share.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: The Fugitive on November 13, 2011, 08:05:53 PM
are you using a custom sound pack? If so move the "sounds" folder some place else (like the desktop) so the game won't use it and try again. A corrupt sound can cause this.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: SPKmes on November 14, 2011, 01:58:09 PM
Hmmmm..   were they lancs by chance?
 I sent a film in recently where I got a lanc flaming...took the wing off another they both continued to fly and whilst I was in the middle of working the third they disappeared...funny (weird) part of it all is when they disappeared I lost the entire tail of my plane....
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Bruv119 on November 14, 2011, 02:45:14 PM
I don't know whether changing gunner position has anything to do with it but my game has crashed on two different occasions.

Once in Lancs when dragonh5 had killed two of my drones and I was about to climb up to his stalled hog and let him have it with my nose gunner. 

The second was in B26's whilst shifting gunner under attack again. 

Never happened before last patch.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: stroker71 on November 14, 2011, 03:04:59 PM
I shot down Bhawk51 yesterday and about the same thing happened. First pass I took out one of his planes went into zoom climb to set up second pass. Looked over my right wing and both other planes are gone....no proxys either :furious

DuHasst
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: USCH on November 14, 2011, 04:40:01 PM
bruv brings up a point i overlooked, i do beleave i was changing gunner positions every time.

Fugitive i do now have a cusome sounds pack, but i had the problem befor i installed it, as well i do have the origanal sounds folder on the desktop as you suggested. but ty for the insight.

SPKmes i have experianced it in everything but lanc's only because i dont fly them much, off hand i rember B17's Ki's and Ju88's probubly a few others as well but them 3 im sure of.

when i get time later i will try to see if the gunner switching has anything to do with it. and ty all so far for the replys.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: fbabob on November 15, 2011, 06:30:17 PM
 :ahandI have also had issues with disco's in bombers, although mine seems to happen when am engaged with more than one fighter. My screen freezes and am kicked from the game also have had issues while gunning!!! Oh and 16 + boots & counting! and it only happens when am engaged!! :bhead
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: -sudz- on November 16, 2011, 09:05:10 AM
A couple of questions:

1)  Were you filming at the time of the disco?

2)  What gunner position were you in, if any?

3)  Did you have someone gunning for you?

Thanks,
- Sudz
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Seadog36 on November 16, 2011, 09:25:44 AM
Same experience as well~ Game crashes from gunner position in B-26s, B-24s and Lancs after 1st or second bird destroyed. Get bumped into cockpit view, all gun positions firing uncontrollably, then disco. Attackers have reported getting 1 or more proxies kills. Very frustrating :bhead

No saved films, obviously, because of disco, but film rolling. FR seems to dip dangerously low more than ever too.

Please fix! Thanks
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: SPKmes on November 16, 2011, 11:20:57 AM
Same experience as well~ Game crashes from gunner position in B-26s, B-24s and Lancs after 1st or second bird destroyed. Get bumped into cockpit view, all gun positions firing uncontrollably, then disco. Attackers have reported getting 1 or more proxies kills. Very frustrating :bhead

No saved films, obviously, because of disco, but film rolling. FR seems to dip dangerously low more than ever too.

Please fix! Thanks

If you are auto filming the game will save the sortie if you disco or are ditched from the game... These just fall under the old number system within your films folder...you might just have the film you need
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: USCH on November 16, 2011, 04:02:53 PM
A couple of questions:

1)  Were you filming at the time of the disco?

2)  What gunner position were you in, if any?

3)  Did you have someone gunning for you?

Thanks,
- Sudz

Ill look for films (but off hand i dont think i was, or it was a 50% type thing, filming 50% of the time) but ill get back to you on that.

For gunner position itdidnt seem to matter, usually i was switching between on or the other (its kind of hard to tell just exactly what moment it happens as im under attack lol.

And lastly No. No one was ever gunning for me.

Edit: no films right now (as i cleared out the PC trying to fix it), as im sure it will happen again, when i have time to log on later tonight i will film it and then send it to you as soon as possable. hope it helps.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: FBDragon on November 16, 2011, 09:16:43 PM
When ever I get into bombers my grame rate drops about 2 or 4 until I get some alt. FBBob also discos when he gets into bombers as well alot of times.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: guncrasher on November 19, 2011, 01:52:55 AM
this happened to me a couple of weeks ago.  I was having lots of game crashes, then i looked at my film folder there was about 500 there.  I moved them to another folder no crashes anymore.


semp
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: wil3ur on November 19, 2011, 03:57:45 PM
I haven't had any crashing...  Just landed successfully messages in an IL2 when I was shot down and in the gunner position.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: WWhiskey on November 27, 2011, 05:06:17 PM
same   crash when moving from bombardier to nose gun in lancs twice today  I have film   . will send if needed.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: USCH on November 27, 2011, 05:32:35 PM
i just sent a few videos, all are crash's. Looking deeper at it now, its happening whenever. system overload? with explorer? idk, heck i just turn the thing on and play you know...
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: smoe on November 27, 2011, 11:07:40 PM
I had this happen to me yesterday. I got a white screen of death (all blank) then the blue screen of death. Have to admit, I haven't seen a blue screen of death in a while.

I successfully took out an enemy cv with a lot of damage in my 26's. Each plane had a damaged engine. I successfully shot down a 109 trying to get some revenge. My other damage was a pilot wound and I noticed all my top gunners were out of commission.

I got about 3k from landing at a friendly field. The pilot wound took out one of my planes and that is when the blank screens hit.
 
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: BHawk51 on November 29, 2011, 05:22:57 PM
I have been having this probelm as well and it seems to be when one of my gets shot down. I'm not filming so rule that out. I have even reinstalled the game to see if something may have gotten messed up, but same thing occurs. I guess next I'll just ride the flaming buff down and see what happens, but this is getting old.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Shuffler on December 01, 2011, 08:37:20 AM
I was in B-29s last night (11-30-11) and had a P-51 on my 6. He hit my tail gun position and I tried to change to another gun. It would not let me and then the game crashed to desktop. Box said Aces High Stopped Working.
I was not filming.

I run Windows 7 Pro.

I run Twinboom's Sound Pack  but have not updated since the 29 was added so I am using game sound for 29.

I have never had that happen before.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Seadog36 on December 01, 2011, 12:59:08 PM
I was in B-29s last night (11-30-11) and had a P-51 on my 6. He hit my tail gun position and I tried to change to another gun. It would not let me and then the game crashed to desktop. Box said Aces High Stopped Working.
I was not filming.

I run Windows 7 Pro.

I run Twinboom's Sound Pack  but have not updated since the 29 was added so I am using game sound for 29.

I have never had that happen before.

Unless something gets changed don't count on landing every sortie when u have been fighting from the tail gunners position. I've gotten bounced from the game in at least 20 sorties last tour in MW and AvA.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 01, 2011, 02:39:34 PM
I run Twinboom's Sound Pack  but have not updated since the 29 was added so I am using game sound for 29.

Then it could be TwinBooms P51 sounds that caused the problem in your case. Im not saying I know it is or anything but that it could be.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: WWhiskey on December 01, 2011, 03:04:36 PM
I have mitsu sounds and  discoed again moments ago!
was in the tail gun of number 2 bird  got killed  went to cockpit  but had no control of anything   then disco!
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 01, 2011, 04:10:11 PM
I have mitsu sounds and  discoed again moments ago!
was in the tail gun of number 2 bird  got killed  went to cockpit  but had no control of anything   then disco!

I noticed that at least a few of Mitsus sounds are in the wrong sample rate and bit depth. I looked at them after a squaddie reported discoes every time he dropped his gear to land. I dont know how that causes the problem but removing the problem sound files fixed the problem.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: ET on December 06, 2011, 01:36:01 PM
Happened to me today in B26s. 12-13 times in the last month.
Always when I'm in guns.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: 100Coogn on December 07, 2011, 03:59:30 AM
Then it could be TwinBooms P51 sounds that caused the problem in your case. Im not saying I know it is or anything but that it could be.

I've been using TwinBooms' sound pack for a couple of years now and have no issues with the game.
 :salute To the sound guys that put all the time and effort into giving this game more depth.

Coogan  :airplane:
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 07, 2011, 04:27:03 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Seadog36 on December 07, 2011, 05:28:06 AM
I have the Ranger soundpack and have for years without encountering this before. I don't think this is the right avenue to resolve this issue as it happens to players irrespective of what soundpack they have if any. It became common place after the last upgrade~ something in the upgrade is overloading the system when a 6 o'closk attack is made on defending bombers. Hopefully they can isolate it soon.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: guncrasher on December 07, 2011, 05:18:01 PM
my game crashing was caused by mitsu's sounds.  i replaced them with ranger's and havent had any porblem.  no sure which sound caused it but there may be more than one.


semp
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: smoe on December 07, 2011, 05:43:20 PM
I've noticed a few times after shooting down the lead plane in a formation (taking out a wing etc.), I get kill messages for the other two planes soon after. I was taking advantage of this bug about 4-5 days ago. I think I tried it about 2-3 times.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 07, 2011, 11:19:53 PM
I dont think thats necessarily part of the bug unless the target plane is actually offline already (game crash). A lot of times when you shoot bombers wings off of the lead plane the pilot refuses to bail or doesnt know he should and so you get the other kills due to his distance from them (proxy kills).
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: NatCigg on December 08, 2011, 02:13:54 PM
A couple of questions:

1)  Were you filming at the time of the disco?

2)  What gunner position were you in, if any?

3)  Did you have someone gunning for you?

Thanks,
- Sudz

i get shot down. gun i was firing from continues to fire in the surviving drones without my input. i say wtf and try to get in the firing gun. game crashes.

1 no not filming
2 tail gun
3 no 3rd party gunner.
Thanks

Edit: no sound pack installed 
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: TwinBoom on December 09, 2011, 08:17:50 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Volron on December 09, 2011, 08:39:15 PM
I'm having the same issue.  Today, every time I lost a B-17 (the only bomber I've been intercepted in today), whether I was in a gun or not, my client crashed.  Usually it happens when I get moved to my last plane.  Twice, I was not in a gun, but the instant I tired to get into one, crash.  Two other times I was in a gun and when I lost the plane I was gunning from, crash.  Once while in the ball turret, the other while in the top turret.  The times I tried to get into a gun after losing a plane, I tried to get into the tail gun in 1, and chin gun in the other.  The reason I've only encountered the problem now is due to me not being intercepted the past few days.


A couple of questions:

1)  Were you filming at the time of the disco?

2)  What gunner position were you in, if any?

3)  Did you have someone gunning for you?

Thanks,
- Sudz


1) No.

2) Yes and No.  Varied.

3) No.

I am using USRanger's Sound Pack.  I did not have any issues what-so-ever before this current update.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 09, 2011, 11:28:41 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: The Fugitive on December 10, 2011, 08:39:14 AM
See Rule #2
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: TwinBoom on December 10, 2011, 09:36:15 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: TwinBoom on December 10, 2011, 09:45:14 AM
Then it could be TwinBooms P51 sounds that caused the problem in your case. Im not saying I know it is or anything but that it could be.

He said he was in B29 using stock game sound for B29 not using my sound for this bird.
Again false slander

Please read and understand what Op is posting before attacking someones work.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: ET on December 10, 2011, 12:58:12 PM
Today 13.45 10 Dec 2011
Just sunk CV
Down to 1 bomber
Enemy F4U passes me nose to tail
Fleet still firing
I got discoed with out firing a shot
F4U did not fire
Using Aces High sound
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 10, 2011, 01:43:43 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: guncrasher on December 10, 2011, 07:10:59 PM
Then it could be TwinBooms P51 sounds that caused the problem in your case. Im not saying I know it is or anything but that it could be.

i have tb's p51 sound no problems with me.  however mitsu's p51 sound and I believe the b26 caused me to crash after 5 min or so of flying.  after going back to tb's soundpack, no more crashes.


semp
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 10, 2011, 08:35:40 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: The Fugitive on December 10, 2011, 09:20:12 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 10, 2011, 10:39:01 PM
See Rule #2
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: guncrasher on December 11, 2011, 01:22:38 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: lyric1 on December 11, 2011, 01:33:39 AM
See Rules #5, #2
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 11, 2011, 02:24:22 AM
See Rule #2
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: NatCigg on December 11, 2011, 07:09:24 AM
See Rule #4

I just want my bombers to stay online  :uhoh
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: TwinBoom on December 11, 2011, 11:55:10 AM
See Rules #2, #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: TwinBoom on December 11, 2011, 12:08:58 PM
Quote
NatCigg
i get shot down. gun i was firing from continues to fire in the surviving drones without my input. i say wtf and try to get in the firing gun. game crashes.

1 no not filming
2 tail gun
3 no 3rd party gunner.
Thanks

Edit: no sound pack installed

Today 13.45 10 Dec 2011
Just sunk CV
Down to 1 bomber
Enemy F4U passes me nose to tail
Fleet still firing
I got discoed with out firing a shot
F4U did not fire
Using Aces High sound

No sound packs on OP or others this states its a bug Chalenge
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: NOT on December 11, 2011, 12:21:01 PM
I to was having issues with crashes, happened a few times in buffs just like the OP stated. Other times i was just sitting the tower, or flying other aircraft. I have always used one sound pack or another, or a mixture of my favs from each. I went back to stock sounds for a couple days, then I started using the AK sound pack put together by Dogg, now I am using TBs soundpack. In my opinion these 2 packs are working flawlessly as I have not had a single crash in over a week. Before I was crashing EVERY single time I played.
Challenge, I personally feel your grievance should have been aired in a more private manner. These guys put in a lot of work so others may get a more realistic, or in some cases a more humorous, experience in game. And it is all pro bono work for the community. So.............
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NOT
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 11, 2011, 02:08:13 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Volron on December 11, 2011, 03:25:13 PM
So any word about this bug? Just happened to me again, this time in 24's.  I was gunning from my 3rd drone when it was hit and caught fire.  The instant it blew up, client crashed.  It's happening to people who use the default sounds and to those who use sound packs....
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: uptown on December 11, 2011, 06:19:26 PM
This is all I have

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15OIH7GHzoM

pull my finger and you can copyright that.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: TwinBoom on December 11, 2011, 06:57:48 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: uptown on December 11, 2011, 10:08:16 PM
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Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Chalenge on December 11, 2011, 11:55:17 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: wil3ur on December 12, 2011, 12:30:43 AM
See Rule #2
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: NatCigg on December 12, 2011, 07:00:17 AM
See Rule #2
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: -sudz- on December 12, 2011, 09:19:14 AM
Listen - I just want to fix the bomber bug.  Someone's already posted that they are using stock sounds so that is not the issue.

I'm still trying to isolate this bug so I don't want to lock this thread.

- Sudz
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: ET on December 12, 2011, 10:28:04 AM
Dec 12  11.15
discoed again when down to 1 B26
1 enemy P51 and fleet in area
was in tail gun
Aces High sound
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: uptown on December 12, 2011, 11:42:14 AM
I had two discos last month in B17s and i was over a fleet both times. I redownloaded the game over the existing game, haven't lost connection in 20 or 30 bomber sorties thus far.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Volron on December 12, 2011, 01:09:13 PM
So far, every single time I was gunning from a drone, and that drone was shot down, my client crashes.  The last time, which was in those 24's, I was in the ball turret.


uptown
Thats the thing.  I shouldn't have to download a whole new copy, though I will if need be (my net is fast enough).   For many, it takes a very long time to get the client downloaded and that can be very frustrating, especially if the bug is still there.

I'm going to see if someone in the TA would be willing to shot down a drone while I'm gunning from it...  I have to find out if that's a source.
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: Volron on December 12, 2011, 02:45:28 PM
Okay. I just came back from the DA.  I had to test there because I forgot you couldn't shoot down anything in the TA.

This is what I have found out:

I am able to replicate the bug easily.

EVERY single time I am shot out of a drone, I am placed in the lead plane, at which point, when I try to jump into ANY gun position, the client crashes.

I made these tests:

1)  Jumped into L drone, had squaddie shoot down my L drone. Got sent to lead plane, attempt to jump into ANY gun in either lead plane or drone, Crashed.

2)  Jumped into L drone, had squaddie shoot down R drone, then L drone.  Got sent to lead plane.  Tried to jump into gun, Crashed.

NOTE:  I am using USRanger's Soundpack.

I had my squaddie jump into a bomber and I did the following:

I repeated 1) in the above test.  He crashed.

I had him stay in his lead bomber pilot seat.  I shot down both of his drones, he jumped into a gun of his lead plane and did NOT crash.

NOTE: Squaddie is using the DEFAULT Soundpack.



Squaddie had to leave, so I could not perform any other tests.  But I believe this may help in the path you need to look. :aok
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: TwinBoom on December 12, 2011, 03:09:43 PM
Listen - I just want to fix the bomber bug.  Someone's already posted that they are using stock sounds so that is not the issue.

I'm still trying to isolate this bug so I don't want to lock this thread.

- Sudz

thank you!!!
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: guncrasher on December 12, 2011, 05:50:24 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: lyric1 on December 12, 2011, 07:28:01 PM
See Rule #2
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: guncrasher on December 13, 2011, 01:33:17 AM
Clearly you did not read sud's post did you?

my bad was using my phone  :bhead.

not sure if this is related but I got disco'd a lot while using mitsu's sounds.  the ah log doesnt really show all my discos but the longest I stayed up was 30 minutes I think, mostly i would get disco'd at around 5 minutes.  I heard some people say it was the b26's sounds, I got disco'd just about every time I was close enough to hear the engine sounds.  but some other times I was by myself.  that happened for the full weekend I had the sounds.  when I switched to ranger's sounds discos went away.

fyi when i say disco'd i mean game crashed.  there was lots of problems in my area due to santa ana winds on that weekend but I dont think game would just crash instead of losing connection.


semp
Title: Re: game crash when bombers are shot down
Post by: -sudz- on December 13, 2011, 04:47:41 PM
Fixed for next release.  Thnx for all the input gents.

- sudz

ps not sound related