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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Lusche on January 14, 2012, 12:46:56 PM
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Welcome to the fist part of my annual statfest.
Originally the "Top Pilots in" list was planned to be the final part of my stats presentation and would have been posted tomorrow. Unfortunately I have found a major systematic bug in the main part of my analysis which turned out to take quite some time to correct :bhead so I could not stay within my announced schedule :(
But I said there will be stats on Saturday, and stats you will get - So today I present to you the "Top Pilots 2011" :salute
Of course "top pilot" is meant tongue-in-cheek - Just like other scores in game, it's primarily about statistics and not necessarily about skill ;)
As announced previously, I used a system working similar to the rank calculations done by HTC: For each plane/GV, I ranked all pilots first by number of kills, then by K/(d+1). Final ranking was determined by adding both rank numbers.
I will list the top three pilots for each plane/vehicle, and in addition I will also post the player with the most kills (and what percentage of the planes total kills he has). As additional information, the total kills for that ride are given as well as the global K/D.
If you find any error, if you think there is someone missing... don't hesitate to notify me, so I can check it and possibly correct a bug!
And here they are...
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1447/top201101.png)
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4373/top201102.png)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9195/top201103.png)
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1920/top201104.png)
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6725/top201105.png)
(http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/3619/top201106.png)
(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3056/top201107.png)
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6425/top201108.png)
(http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/2945/top201109.png)
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1904/top201110.png)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2221/top201111.png)
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4336/top201112.png)
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5637/top201113.png)
(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4762/top201114.png)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1418/top201115.png)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/463/top201116.png)
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/376/top201117.png)
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3319/top201118.png)
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9903/top201119.png)
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9307/top201120.png)
The main part of my analysis will follow... when it's finished. I should have fixed the errors by tomorrow ( :pray), but I'm not sure my proofreader will have time for it.
So maybe on Monday... :uhoh
And now I'm off to LW arena for some frustration relief... :devil
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:aok
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4584/75670762.jpg) :banana: :D
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And just a few minutes later - the first correction. The new list for the BF 110C:
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4383/new110c.jpg)
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Are you going to do stats for MW Lusche?
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Are you going to do stats for MW Lusche?
No, I have given up on EW and MW long time ago, as there way too many... let's say: oddities
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:aok
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4584/75670762.jpg) :banana: :D
K?
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quite surprised i couldnt make it into the top three in my own ride. Especially since i know i can get the top ranked one in 2 turns.
Scores are worthless. nuff said
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No, I have given up on EW and MW long time ago, as there way too many... let's say: oddities
That's an understatement :lol
Guess I won't be seeing my name in lights for being the top MW P-47 dweeb haha
Oh well~ nice effort :salute
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K?
What do you mean?
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Bailing is not the end of the mission.
IcePac: Number one sapper.
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Bailing is not the end of the mission.
IcePac: Number one sapper.
:lol
How did you do that?
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Most kills Spit9 = Midway :banana: ------> 6,666 kills :uhoh
:devil
:noid
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:lol :lol :lol I now understand your worry Lusche :lol :lol :lol
oh yes and it seems there are a few missing % of kills in most kills area ...P51, pantherG are a couple
what a mission to gather and compile just this lot....when do you find time to play ( just going on previous stats of yours it seems to be a full time job and now you just burden yourself with yet another area of stats to compile...
All Hail the Snail
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oh yes and it seems there are a few missing % of kills in most kills area ...P51, pantherG are a couple
Could you possibly provide some more detail? A systematical error here could very likely have an influence on other stats and analysis too, so I'm very eager to find it as quick as possible.
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interesting stuff. . . the most kills list is insane for some planes.
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Fascinating stats. Thanks for all that work, Lusche. :salute
The stats I found most interesting and impressive, were the ones where a single player dominated a plane's useage. And non-uber planes at that:
C.202 - Snefens 23.09%
Hurri I - Fish42 14.46%
Ki-61 - Tongs 24.02%
P-38G - Soulyss 22.78%
P-39D - Aper 15.56%
P-40F - Redtail7 23.85%
Spit V - Flyover 16.67%
Jeep - Chaser 10.33% 231 kills!
I was going to mention the 109-G6, but that player doesn't care about this sort of thing and has nailed himself to the cross of self righteousness.
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I can't believe I made the list! I wasn't expecting the B24... I thought I was going to definately make the 110-C4 listing. I'd be interested in knowing how far out of the running I was on that one. I only recently started flying, and as an example, had a great month of November, which was really only month I flew the plane.
Nov Numbers:
Bf 110C-4b 38 0 0 27
Thanks Lusche! :aok
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Lusche, what exactly are you arranging the top pilots by? I see you have the section for kills, death, rank k, and rank k/d, but none of them seem to be in order.
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quite surprised i couldnt make it into the top three in my own ride. Especially since i know i can get the top ranked one in 2 turns.
Scores are worthless. nuff said
I didn't either. But its still cool to see how many kills
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The chute is overmodelled and should be perked...
:aok WTG Lusche/Snailman! Keep them coming!
Cheers
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Lusche, what exactly are you arranging the top pilots by? I see you have the section for kills, death, rank k, and rank k/d, but none of them seem to be in order.
The explanation is included in my initial posting ;)
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The explanation is included in my initial posting ;)
Sorry I missed that. :bolt:
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ManaWar has most kills in Lancs... maybe thats because when he gets killed in a GV he ups lancs and carpet bombs them :bhead
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Interesting I showed up as many times as I did considering most rides I fly one tour then switch, except for the panther - interesting to know me and Hooter have just about the same amount of kills together.
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Am i wrong or is the same person listed twice with the K4?
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Am i wrong or is the same person listed twice with the K4?
If puujiiko and pijk have the same player, then yes. ;)
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ManaWar has most kills in Lancs... maybe thats because when he gets killed in a GV he ups lancs and carpet bombs them :bhead
No, it's because he sees a GV mission about to launch on his country and then he switches countries, ups Lancs and kills all the GVs of his former country's mission. He's quite proud of this behavior. :mad:
:frown:
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If puujiiko and pijk have the same player, then yes. ;)
Great work Lusche <S>
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If puujiiko and pijk have the same player, then yes. ;)
Yeh, the same guy...and a bloody drunk aswell! :D :neener:
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Awesome work Sir, can't wait to see more!
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:confused: How did I make it to the top in kills for 3 different planes?
wait... :O :x :banana:....
well I am really happy :D
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Total plug for myself :banana:
Apparently I like zero's :D
or am i a zero? :uhoh
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I feel honored to be mentioned as a good B17 gunner, however, I'm amazed Triple 9 didn't beat me.
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:lol
How did you do that?
Whenever I am shot down, I ride the chute all the way to the ground.
If I am near an enemy or friendly field and there is action there, I sneak up approaching from the proper radial and use buildings and trees to cover from the auto ack.
If done right, you can get near where the planes spawn and simply put rounds into planes that spawn near you.
A Vguys mission spawned right in front of me so I put a single round into the cockpit of 16 different planes.
5 minutes later, I was rewarded with a whole buffer worth of kills when they all bailed together because they had been discovered.
Whenever I shoot someone down and see him riding his chute all the way, I bail nearby in the hopes of a foot chase shootout.
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Spitfire Mk.VIII and the Wirbelwind! :rock
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Nice work Snailman. :aok
Can't believe I didn't manage to get the Emil :( I suppose Fantastic Freidrich will do :D
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Wow. Hymen has over 6000 kills in a Spit16. I wonder if he can play anything else? Take him out of the game and the Spit16 falls in ranking, I bet. :lol
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You dorks play too much.
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P-40B and P-40C should be separated.
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quite surprised i couldnt make it into the top three in my own ride. Especially since i know i can get the top ranked one in 2 turns.
Scores are worthless. nuff said
That is one big steaming pile of glory you just covered yourself with.
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Bite me. Im a retard.
I cant see anyone else landing kills in it yet i got a load of kills with a K/D ratio of about 2.5 Also i dont have many squaddies to hind behind.
Had an arguement with Brkfast before when he was trying to tell me how worthless ACMs are. That hurts, not once, not twice.
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:noid :noid I dont see a naked column! :noid :noid
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That hurts, not once, not twice.
<Kenny Rogers crooning> "Three times a lady." :neener:
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Midway has 6666 kills in the Mk9
Midway is the debble :noid
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Bite me. Im a retard.
I cant see anyone else landing kills in it yet i got a load of kills with a K/D ratio of about 2.5 Also i dont have many squaddies to hind behind.
Had an arguement with Brkfast before when he was trying to tell me how worthless ACMs are. That hurts, not once, not twice.
Easy to say ACM is worthless when you are 10k above the fight with a half dozen squadies.
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Midway has 6666 kills in the Mk9
Midway is the debble :noid
:devil
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Whoo Hoo
I feel honored to make anyone of the list.
:salute
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Anyone else confuse SPIT XVI for BIGGEST NOOBS column?
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Didn't realize I was #2 for the 51D, that is cool. Good thing I won't let it go to my head though.
For everyone who has helped me get that rank, I appreicate it :salute
And to Snail for his research :salute
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Didn't realize I was #2 for the 51D, that is cool. Good thing I won't let it go to my head though.
For everyone who has helped me get that rank, I appreicate it :salute
38g and 39d for me :)
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Fascinating stats. Thanks for all that work, Lusche. :salute
The stats I found most interesting and impressive, were the ones where a single player dominated a plane's useage. And non-uber planes at that:
C.202 - Snefens 23.09%
Hurri I - Fish42 14.46%
Ki-61 - Tongs 24.02%
P-38G - Soulyss 22.78%
P-39D - Aper 15.56%
P-40F - Redtail7 23.85%
Spit V - Flyover 16.67%
Jeep - Chaser 10.33% 231 kills!
I was going to mention the 109-G6, but that player doesn't care about this sort of thing and has nailed himself to the cross of self righteousness.
<T>ard :rock
semp
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Midway has 6666 kills in the Mk9
Midway is the debble :noid
Nah you can relax, he's not 6666 kills not 666.
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I guess I did well in the A5 this year
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Fascinating stats. Thanks for all that work, Lusche. :salute
The stats I found most interesting and impressive, were the ones where a single player dominated a plane's useage. And non-uber planes at that:
C.202 - Snefens 23.09%
Hurri I - Fish42 14.46%
Ki-61 - Tongs 24.02%
P-38G - Soulyss 22.78%
P-39D - Aper 15.56%
P-40F - Redtail7 23.85%
Spit V - Flyover 16.67%
Jeep - Chaser 10.33% 231 kills!
I was going to mention the 109-G6, but that player doesn't care about this sort of thing and has nailed himself to the cross of self righteousness.
lol 231!! Gotta beat that this year!
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quite surprised i couldnt make it into the top three in my own ride. Especially since i know i can get the top ranked one in 2 turns.
Scores are worthless. nuff said
Ha! Post the film.
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Just to clarify a few things for those that may take this too seriously:
- It's not an "official" ranking. It was conceived and compiled by a single player. HTC was not involved at any point. If the official scores "don't mean chit", these ones here... well, shouldn't even be noticed ;)
- I selected the ranking criteria not without reason, but fully aware of the shortcomings. I could have chosen other ways, and probably with different names at the top at some times.
- The less 'popular' a plane is, the more important the K/D will get (same effect as in EW, where one "good" fighter sortie may get you rank #1 in fighters). See the 110C, when a player with only 17 kills was #1 in my list, until I looked up his victims. With a highly popular plane, you need hundreds of kills in addition to a good K/D.
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Regardless of how meaningful they really are they're still interesting and worthwhile Lusche. Nice job. :cheers:
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So this is purely based off of number of kills and k/d? The obvious problem with that is precisely why HTC adds the other categories to their calculations. I would love to see films posted by all of the top three in each type.
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So this is purely based off of number of kills and k/d?
Yes, simply because that's all the info available.
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I understand and I appreciate your effort. :aok
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Well done Lusche! Cool stuff. <S>
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Interesting numbers Snailman.
Where is the pie?
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You dorks play too much.
That's what I was thinking.
So where's the rest of the stats? And in these why so many blanks and a div. by 0 errors?
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No, I have given up on EW and MW long time ago, as there way too many... let's say: oddities
HHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A very PC of you lusche.....
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So where's the rest of the stats? And in these why so many blanks and a div. by 0 errors?
Blanks??? Is there a plane missing? :headscratch:
The rest are still in the works. Found and fixed an error and am rebuilding my charts at this very moment:
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1286/clipboard01tca.jpg)
But it's slow, as there is still that gruesome thing called 'real life' messing with me ;)
If I don't get them up today, I may post some distraction... maybe plain MW & EW plane stats 2011, which I originally didn't plan to put up at all.... :bolt:
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CHOG and P47 are mine, that makes me happy.
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I guess I did well in the A5 this year
Yeah, but you could of done better though. :aok :devil
Just to clarify a few things for those that may take this too seriously:
- It's not an "official" ranking. It was conceived and compiled by a single player. HTC was not involved at any point. If the official scores "don't mean chit", these ones here... well, shouldn't even be noticed ;)
- I selected the ranking criteria not without reason, but fully aware of the shortcomings. I could have chosen other ways, and probably with different names at the top at some times.
- The less 'popular' a plane is, the more important the K/D will get (same effect as in EW, where one "good" fighter sortie may get you rank #1 in fighters). See the 110C, when a player with only 17 kills was #1 in my list, until I looked up his victims. With a highly popular plane, you need hundreds of kills in addition to a good K/D.
That's an understatement. :rofl
Thank you for the hard work you put in Lusche. I myself, personaly, would of been curious as to the # of deaths or the death-ratio for the top-kills pilots that are listed, especialy where they differ (often DRASTICLY) from the top-3 ranked K/D ratio pilots as they are being listed right there next to them. But, you keep saying you haven't finished releasing all your analysis, so... *props up his lawnchair and waits*.
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But, you keep saying you haven't finished releasing all your analysis, so... *props up his lawnchair and waits*.
Oh, the "Pilots" part is the finished one ;) What I'm now working on are "The Players" (arena comparisons, sortie modes, base captures and so on), and "The Planes" (various plane & vehicle statistics) :old:
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Blanks??? Is there a plane missing? :headscratch:
The rest are still in the works. Found and fixed an error and am rebuilding my charts at this very moment:
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1286/clipboard01tca.jpg)
But it's slow, as there is still that gruesome thing called 'real life' messing with me ;)
If I don't get them up today, I may post some distraction... maybe plain MW & EW plane stats 2011, which I originally didn't plan to put up at all.... :bolt:
Lusche,
The European Central Bank could use you charting skills.
When Lusche runs a macro, light bulbs dim within 20 km.
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Blanks??? Is there a plane missing? :headscratch:
P-51D, Rocky, %
Panther G hooter, %
The other one was ship gunner but I get that one.
There may be others. Just noticed it skimming through yesterday.
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Lusche,
I always find your charts and graphs absolutely fascinating.
Thank you for all the time and effort you put into them!
Best regards, Odd
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P-51D, Rocky, %
Panther G hooter, %
The other one was ship gunner but I get that one.
There may be others. Just noticed it skimming through yesterday.
I thought something was completely missing ... well, I'm confident you can computer hooters % yourself ;)
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I myself, personaly, would of been curious as to the # of deaths or the death-ratio for the top-kills pilots that are listed, especialy where they differ (often DRASTICLY) from the top-3 ranked K/D ratio pilots as they are being listed right there next to them. But, you keep saying you haven't finished releasing all your analysis, so... *props up his lawnchair and waits*.
My amateur perusal of the stats show that, as far as the K/D versus top kills, it is quality(?) over quantity and it pays not to die. Especially for popular rides.
For the purpose of this ranking, you are better off flying one or two good sories a tour and not dieing than flying a single ride alot and having "normal" results.
Actually, given an hour or two I could get the numbers but it won't be a chart and it will take me almost that long to type the post.
wrongway
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For the purpose of this ranking, you are better off flying one or two good sories a tour and not dieing than flying a single ride alot and having "normal" results.
In low usage planes: Absolutely. But then nobody knew such a list would be compiled for the most part of the year :)
And it's highly improbable I will do it again in this way ;)
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Cant believe my name is even in the list and ina Betty no less how strange, I only ran that thing for a couple hours at most..... :cheers:
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I knew I was getting pretty deadly in B24's, I didn't expect to make the list... I still think I should have made the 110C-4 listing. :(
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Cant believe my name is even in the list and ina Betty no less how strange, I only ran that thing for a couple hours at most..... :cheers:
The G4M had only 908 kills in 2011, that's only 0.02% of all registered kills in the late war arena. Only the D3A and the SdKfz 251 (the epitome of Hangar Queen) had less.
If someone drops a lucky bomb on a airfield VH that just came up and starts to spew out WW's, he might be "top killer" in the Betty even when never flying a sortie again in that year ;)
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First off Lusche, A big thank you :aok and a snappy salute :salute for all your hard work. After my first full year in AH, to be recognized in one of the real Nishizawa's actual ww2 mount's is very gratifying.
It is that love of history and the desire to pay a proper homage to my namesake that compels me to reluctantly ask for the following consideration. Regarding the A6M5's rankings, you may or may not deem the extenuating circumstance of a name change warrants an exception/caveat/asterisk, but at the start of April's tour I changed my name from ARSNishi to Nishizwa.
At the risk of appearing petty and unappreciative of your time and efforts, with the name change factored in I know that would give me the most M5 kills (3020) and I'm very curious as to whether or not it would change the top 3 rankings. The can of worms this may open and the slippery slope that it presents may be more than you want to deal with and I understand that completely.
:salute. Nishizwa
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Thanks Lusche
re "bombers" will you be producing similiar stats to show us all who the tool shedders are in our game.
similar break down but replacing kills with destruction.
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Yay! i'm on the list!... as a spitdweeb :cry
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What happened to Volume II? :noid
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What happened to Volume II? :noid
I know right, I was all geared up for PIE!!!
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I know right, I was all geared up for PIE!!!
he lets us get a taste of the pie then leaves us blue.
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I don't fly all that much, so if my name should appear in Lusche's stats, it'll be related to an early war or low use fighter. I managed best K/D in the P-39Q and the P-40N in tour 143. Likewise, I had the best K/D in the Typhoon as well, but since I ranked only 11th in total kills, it disappears in the stats.
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I knew I was getting pretty deadly in B24's, I didn't expect to make the list... I still think I should have made the 110C-4 listing. :(
Wilur share some secrets on how to gun accurately from a bomber
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Good job, Lusche..do you do taxes ?
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Maybe someone has already inquired.
But I assume these stats are for fighter mode only? Or is it a combined fighter/attack overall?
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Whenever I am shot down, I ride the chute all the way to the ground.
If I am near an enemy or friendly field and there is action there, I sneak up approaching from the proper radial and use buildings and trees to cover from the auto ack.
If done right, you can get near where the planes spawn and simply put rounds into planes that spawn near you.
A Vguys mission spawned right in front of me so I put a single round into the cockpit of 16 different planes.
5 minutes later, I was rewarded with a whole buffer worth of kills when they all bailed together because they had been discovered.
Whenever I shoot someone down and see him riding his chute all the way, I bail nearby in the hopes of a foot chase shootout.
16 rounds?? I want your 45!
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Maybe someone has already inquired.
But I assume these stats are for fighter mode only? Or is it a combined fighter/attack overall?
I'm sure it's based purely on the "Plane Stats" for Late War Tours.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/planes.php (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/scores/planes.php)
You can break it down based on number of kills in a particular ride. You can sort by name, number of kills, number of deaths, or K/D ratio in any vehicle or plane.
Pick a tour. Click on the name, not on Kills or Deaths, and sort away.
One more thing. The current tour will only sort by name as the numbers are still changing.
wrongway
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What I find interesting is that that there are clearly players who play a lot (possibly as much as midway does :uhoh), who I have never ran into or even heard of.
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What I find interesting is that that there are clearly players who play a lot (possibly as much as midway does :uhoh), who I have never ran into or even heard of.
Who is this Ardy person?
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Who is this Ardy person?
yeah, who f is that... hell if I know :uhoh
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:rock :cheers: :joystick:
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<--starting to get worried about Snailman
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:noid
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I think we should start with rounding up ALL the people who thought they should have been on the list but weren't. :noid
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I think that they are all the same guy, with multiple mysterious accounts, who plays in the wee hours, off in the hinterland portions of the maps. No one has seen them (him), and rumors abound as to his real identity, murky motivations, and hidden agenda. Some suspect involvement from North Korea or remnants of the Khmer Rouge. Others say that is completely the wrong direction, and it is the drug cartels of Mexico, Central and South America, and Norway. Still others claim that the accounts in question are traceable to factilities of the Trilateral Commission, with peaks in usage especially near times of the Bilderberg meetings, and thus clearly indicate Illuminati involvement.
All we know for sure is that Lusche is onto something bigger than it seems.
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All we know for sure is that Lusche is onto something bigger than it seems.
Or his wife won't let him on the computer :old:
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quite surprised i couldnt make it into the top three in my own ride. Especially since i know i can get the top ranked one in 2 turns.
Scores are worthless. nuff said
Only in your mind Debrody, I've killed you as many times as you've killed me.
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Only in your mind Debrody, I've killed you as many times as you've killed me.
Yessir but i wouldnt be as proud of that since i never had 10k alt on you nor 3-4-5-7-10 squaddies to help me out if im in trouble. Fair enough?
And Yessir, i think im a better G6 pilot than you (my little ego...). We can do some DA rounds (without squaddies) to decide. If you have an other opinion, lets play it like two men.
There are still many out there who are clearly better than me: Krupinski, Sunsfan, Bighorn, Irish, Shane, MickyD, Bruv, Spek, Jo, Latrobe, RedBull, all bad arse ones who always kick my bottom. Some of theirs score isnt the best couse they arent going for the "kill" but the "fight".
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:neener: im better than u Debrody. j/k, i couldnt beat my own shadow
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Guess we all know now who the Mastur sweetheartnozzle, Game the Gamer, whatta P.O.S. ,Jeepster is. SAD. :frown: