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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tupac on February 09, 2012, 09:29:32 PM
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http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE236/history/20120209/2100Z/KBFI/KBFI
pretty cool! :)
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You got to kidding me :rofl :rofl :rofl
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http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE236/history/20120209/2100Z/KBFI/KBFI
pretty cool! :)
Drunk pilots :noid
Seriously though what is going on there?
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Drunk pilots :noid
Seriously though what is going on there?
Well he just drew the "787", now he's drawing the Boeing logo.
What I don't understand is why are they spending so much money on something that very few people will ever see.
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What I don't understand is why are they spending so much money on something that very few people will ever see.
Because it's awesome.
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Because it's awesome.
It's a 19 hour flight and he's spending something like $50/minute.
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It's a 19 hour flight and he's spending something like $50/minute.
Your point?
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I believe they were testing for ETOPs, but it doesn't mean you have to fly around in a straight line. Someone bored thought it up.
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Your point?
Your going to pay that much money so a few people can see your "awesomenes"? I think it's a lot more awesome to do a hammerhead on a small airplane then what they are doing on the 87.
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I believe they were testing for ETOPs, but it doesn't mean you have to fly around in a straight line. Someone bored thought it up.
I thought they finished that a while ago?
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Your going to pay that much money so a few people can see your "awesomenes"? I think it's a lot more awesome to do a hammerhead on a small airplane then what they are doing on the 87.
*Awesomeness
Why not? They have to test the plane out anyway. They may as well have some fun while doing so.
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*Awesomeness
Why not? They have to test the plane out anyway. They may as well have some fun while doing so.
As I said above I thought they were already done with all the testing.
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LOL. My brother flies from OKC to Austin. I told him to wright his name in flight. He will let me know when he will do it.
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I would seriously hate to program all those intersections in the GPS
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I would seriously hate to program all those intersections in the GPS
I was thinking the same exact thing. I have never seen a flight plan with so many checkpoints.
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I would seriously hate to program all those intersections in the GPS
I was thinking the same exact thing. I have never seen a flight plan with so many checkpoints.
If they have time with that flight pattern, i am sure they had plenty of time program all those checkpoints.
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As I said above I thought they were already done with all the testing.
Individual airframes go through certain tests and acceptance checks. Cold soak flights for any number of reasons are not uncommon and quite normal.
Gulfstream had a crew draw a big GV across the CONUS during one such flight. The certificate holder we affiliate with had a crew draw their name over the Midwest. You have plenty of time to plan these flights where you'll be in the air for 6-12+ hours and no particular destination.
This isn't a first.
(http://aviationmusings.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/gv-flightaware.png)
The 747-800 just recently missed hitting all 48 states of the CONUS by a few miles. I think it was West Virginia they missed but don't recall exactly.
Yep, WV.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE440/history/20111102/2100Z/KPAE/KPAE
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I thought they finished that a while ago?
The GE XX engines they're doing it for, or so I believe.
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Mach, the 787 with GE engines is still not certified, only the RR powered 787's are. I read on another site that this might have been the last flight needed by the FAA.
As for the logo, this is why i love Boeing... they did this for the 747-8 as well.
Golfer, they missed rhode island by a few miles as well.
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Mach, the 787 with GE engines is still not certified, only the RR powered 787's are. I read on another site that this might have been the last flight needed by the FAA.
As for the logo, this is why i love Boeing... they did this for the 747-8 as well.
So that's why I got confused, makes sense now.
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If they have time with that flight pattern, i am sure they had plenty of time program all those checkpoints.
As far as I know they usually have the dispatchers do the flight planning, but even if it's pilots the flight planning is still a lot less boring than typing out all this stuff into the FMS.
SEA J12 EPH GEG 4733N 11706W 4236N 11831W 4450N 11752W 4414N 11230W 4710N 11126W 4714N 11125W 4730N 11443W 4214N 11629W 4140N 11325W 4714N 11126W 4645N 10711W 4105N 11056W 4405N 10902W CZI KD81U KD72W 4148N 10335W HANKI YANKI ONL 4201N 9830W KP72C CVA 4148N 9034W GIZCY FOD KP81C KP87A ONL ATY 4523N 9711W KP12C 4743N 9843W 4845N 9655W 4755N 9857W KP15A KP06Y 4248N 10523W MBW ALPOE 4026N 10616W KD60U 3947N 10516W DVV KD60W BENNZ KD63W 4027N 10500W 4040N 10510W 4131N 10501W GYZ KD81W 4728N 9907W 4610N 9804W AMMAJ SOBME 4400N 9820W 4324N 9850W ADEDY ANW 4203N 10104W ALU KD75W 4245N 10424W 4333N 10518W 4404N 10552W 4437N 10558W MARLS YAFLU KU15W POVNY KP18Y 4746N 10000W 4742N 9930W 4753N 9901W MIB JINUK LAMBE 4711N 10515W MLS 4603N 10613W FOURS CZI 4406N 10900W 4643N 10703W 4734N 11444W 4439N 11546W MADPE 4733N 11701W SEA
And if you make a mistake the autopilot could fly you to some place on the other side of the world. Ones I was making a relatively short flight (in arizona) with 3 or 4 checkpoints, make a typo, the plane started heading for Florida. I noticed it as soon as it showed me the flight route but there were plenty of people who didn't.
In the 80s (or 70, can't remember for a fact) there was an airline flight from California so Sidney, the pilot made a typo while programming his autopilot. A few hours later he was shut down over Russia.
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There have been numerous shoot downs of civilian airliners but I believe you're thinking of Korean 007.
Depending on how thick your tin foil hat is you can believe the airplanes guidance was mismanaged or more was at play. Such as the Russians believed it to be a US AWACS type airplane.
The Russians didn't try very hard to not shoot the airplane down either.
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There have been numerous shoot downs of civilian airliners but I believe you're thinking of Korean 007.
Yeah I think that's the one.
The Russians didn't try very hard to not shoot the airplane down either.
Yeah but it does during the cold war. As an AWACS it could have been coordinating an attack, or it could have been just used as a bomber to get a nuclear bomb in, maybe it could even bring a few spies into the country.
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Yeah I think that's the one.
Yeah but it does during the cold war. As an AWACS it could have been coordinating an attack, or it could have been just used as a bomber to get a nuclear bomb in, maybe it could even bring a few spies into the country.
Master tactician you are.
The Russians didn't need your help coming up with a reason to shoot it down any more than they need your help to justify what isn't justifiable.
They didn't try very hard to not shoot it down. And shooting down civilian airliners IS something as a general rule one should be trying very hard not to do.
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You don't need to convince me that it was it was a bad idea and they should have intercepted and made him land. But also it was the cold war and I can understand why they did it.
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You don't need to convince me that it was it was a bad idea and they should have intercepted and made him land. But also it was the cold war and I can understand why they did it.
The aeroplane was just about to leave Russian airspace when they decided to kill it, there is/was no excuse.
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The aeroplane was just about to leave Russian airspace when they decided to kill it, there is/was no excuse.
How do you know that?
And what do you mean there was no excuse? It was a war.
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Take your contrarian hat off and actually think about what you're saying. Then objectively look to see if it makes any sense.
I think you'll find not only aren't you making sense, this is in fact a considerable tangent on which we aren't making any sense.
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Take your contrarian hat off and actually think about what you're saying. Then objectively look to see if it makes any sense.
I think you'll find not only aren't you making sense, this is in fact a considerable tangent on which we aren't making any sense.
They had no way of confirming who was on board. Yes, they should have intercepted it, but you can't blame them for shooting it down.
You keep saying that I'm wrong, so in your opinion what should have they done?
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How do you know that?
And what do you mean there was no excuse? It was a war.
What war?
As to how I know, I watched a documentary on the TV, while I wont vouch for its entire correctness, certainly most of it was correct
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They had no way of confirming who was on board. Yes, they should have intercepted it, but you can't blame them for shooting it down.
You keep saying that I'm wrong, so in your opinion what should have they done?
A absolutely can blame the Russians for shooting down a civilian airliner. Not the least reason for which is they've done it several times. Korean Air alone lost two airplanes to Soviet Fighters. The airplane in question for our example, KAL 007 was also shot down by a fighter. Those cowboy-skis shot from the hip and killed an airliner bound for Seoul that was heading very much toward Seoul and also not over Russia. The airplane sank in the Sea of Japan. After they hit it with missiles. After the intercepting fighter shot at it with guns. After he verified it wasn't a military airplane but a 747. After which he didn't tell anyone before he shot the damn thing down.
Oh yeah, I can blame them. And I do.
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A absolutely can blame the Russians for shooting down a civilian airliner. Not the least reason for which is they've done it several times. Korean Air alone lost two airplanes to Soviet Fighters. The airplane in question for our example, KAL 007 was also shot down by a fighter. Those cowboy-skis shot from the hip and killed an airliner bound for Seoul that was heading very much toward Seoul and also not over Russia. The airplane sank in the Sea of Japan. After they hit it with missiles. After the intercepting fighter shot at it with guns. After he verified it wasn't a military airplane but a 747. After which he didn't tell anyone before he shot the damn thing down.
Oh yeah, I can blame them. And I do.
Okay I didn't know that. Though it was shot down by SAM. And I didn't know that it happened more then ones.
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Okay I didn't know that. Though it was shot down by SAM. And I didn't know that it happened more then ones.
It's not like this information isn't available for you to procure for yourself. There's a whole lot of Internet out there.
At least make an effort before you put fingers to keyboard.