Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Myg on February 18, 2012, 10:23:37 PM
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I find the use of historical squads/etc very weird and slightly awkward (To say the least). Does anyone feel the same or agree on this?
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No... why do you find it wierd? It's a combat flight sim dedicated to WWI/WWII... why WOULDN'T they have historically accurate squad names?
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Well, its a simulator; not a forced recreation.
I've never got the feeling that we were trying to re-live WW2; just take the airplanes out of it and throw them together: Right?
More like swing dancing instead of creating a time machine.
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What's wrong with honoring WWII squadrons?
I've never got the feeling that we were trying to re-live WW2; just take the airplanes out of it and throw them together: Right?
Nope, that's only the MA. FSOs, Scenarios, and AvA are make to simulate WWII. Technically the MA is also made to simulate WWII, just a lot less organized and with 3 sides.
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I think you're making a big deal out of nothing.
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LOL
Nice sig/pic, Jayhawk :aok
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Let's ban the use of historical airplanes too.
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I find the use of historical squads/etc very weird and slightly awkward (To say the least). Does anyone feel the same or agree on this?
For those of us who've been at the WW2 aviation history bit, for far longer then there have been online flight sims, it adds to the fun/immersion to use a historical name and skins. My 80th FS Headhunters fly 38s the majority of the time and use skins that are correct for the 80th. It's meant as a way to connect to that history while knowing it's not real here. It's a good way to share the history.
Throw in special events too. Getting the chance to dive into the history of a particular squadron you are flying with in a scenario is half the fun.
Frankly it would be idiotic to ban the history. Might as well make a fictional airplane and paint it pink for everyone then and call it "cartoon airplane world'.
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I've never got the feeling that we were trying to re-live WW2; just take the airplanes out of it and throw them together: Right?
Trying to get as close to WWII air combat as the virtual realm allows is exactly why I'm here.
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I'm with Cactus on this one :joystick:
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Ban historical names too, cuz they sux!!!
Such like Krupnski, Debrody...
Dont forget to ban historical skins and planes too... i want my Coca-Cola F22!
haha
:bolt:
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Yes, the world needs more censorship. :aok
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i want my Coca-Cola F22!
:rofl
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Might as well make a fictional airplane and paint it pink for everyone then and call it "cartoon airplane world'.
We have a pink spit9, so we're getting there. :devil
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I find the use of historical squads/etc very weird and slightly awkward (To say the least). Does anyone feel the same or agree on this?
This whole game is very wierd and slighly awkward. Lets just get rid of it.
:noid
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ok lets form a committee that will elect a committee to decide what squad name should be allowed ingame. :bolt:
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I find the use of historical squads/etc very weird and slightly awkward (To say the least). Does anyone feel the same or agree on this?
No.
Thanks for asking.
Carry on.
:salute
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No issues with using historical squads but I do feel that it's a bit weird to give official sounding military rank within a squad.
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I'd rather deal with 4 different variants of the Redtails in game, then try and pronouce the gyougyouickeickepangzooowampn eeeeeeewomp squad.
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No issues with using historical squads but I do feel that it's a bit weird to give official sounding military rank within a squad.
Um, I can remember in the not too distant past when a certain squad known as the 1st SSF used a similar Rank system, had a guy named MajorTom commanding the Attack Wing, and his rank being CPT or something...maybe being a vTARD has coulded your judgement former Padawan.
On another note, I believe that we should as of this post to make the Author of this Post feel less wierd, nemk our squads after 80s and 90s cartoons. How about the "Care Bears" and "Thundercats?" Ahh, yes, I feel much less wierd, do you all? :noid :bolt:
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ok lets form a committee that will elect a committee to decide what squad name should be allowed ingame. :bolt:
Not without a feasibility study, followed by the dynamic paradigm leveraging, with the customary Silo alignment.
We'll fly this baby under radar until the synergy stabilizes and we can right size our resource pool... :confused:
GAG.. HAAAACK.. I can't do this anymore!!!
Somebody shoot me.. please?
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I find the use of historical squads/etc very weird and slightly awkward (To say the least). Does anyone feel the same or agree on this?
Well, its a simulator; not a forced recreation.
I've never got the feeling that we were trying to re-live WW2; just take the airplanes out of it and throw them together: Right?
More like swing dancing instead of creating a time machine.
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc473/UnkShadow/TripleFacePalm.jpg)
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We have a pink spit9, so we're getting there. :devil
A completely accurate skin too :) More then one as a matter of fact.
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Just the opposite in my case. Use of historical squad names have led my children ( great grandchildren of a Wwii p-47 pilot) to search through books that we have. Bring attention to things worth remembering.
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I would rather they banned the more rediculous squad names... Like things from Star Trek or Star Wars... :rolleyes:
And Alchemists... WTF does alchemy have to do with WW2, go back to WoW and horde there...
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A completely accurate skin too :) More then one as a matter of fact.
Wasn't that the British Night Cammo? The SAS had pink jeeps or landrovers too didn't they?
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Wasn't that the British Night Cammo? The SAS had pink jeeps or landrovers too didn't they?
My wife claims that even she wouldn't sport one.
Me? I vomited in my mouth a little just by thinking about using those words together in the same breath...
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Those pink colors blend well with the desert.
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It's a stupid wish. For a game to simulate historical aircraft, skins, and combat, wishing to end the idea of historical squadrons is pure silliness.
On top of that there is no point anyways. Some people fly for historical relevance, some fly to furball, and others fly for whatever other reason they want. You want to limit that??? That is a terrible idea.
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I would rather they banned the more rediculous squad names... Like things from Star Trek or Star Wars... :rolleyes:
And Alchemists... WTF does alchemy have to do with WW2, go back to WoW and horde there...
This made me :lol
As to the OP wish....I direct your attention to the triple face palm picture above once again.
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instead of trying to recreate pearl harbor we might switch to the death star attack, then again the colonial warriors might object to the names too.
semp
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I'd rather deal with 4 different variants of the Redtails in game, then try and pronouce the gyougyouickeickepangzooowampn eeeeeeewomp squad.
now your just being racist. ;)
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I'd rather deal with 4 different variants of the Redtails in game, then try and pronouce the gyougyouickeickepangzooowampn eeeeeeewomp squad.
I've just Australianised it and call them "The Fishos"
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I find the use of historical squads/etc very weird and slightly awkward (To say the least). Does anyone feel the same or agree on this?
I didn't go on to read all the posts but wanted to answer your question about awkwardness. I do find that my interest in a very ugly part of history has a bit of discomfort with it. I cringe when I see the devistation and the mutulated bodies as well as the emaciated survivors of WW2.
In Aces High, I tend to think more of the mechanical advances as well as the historical aerial tactics, than of any actual WW2 ideology. There were honorable men and women on both sides of the battle. I believe that many of the airmen were focused on doing their duties as soldiers, and keeping their friends alive. In this respect, I feel no different in identifying with historical squadrons than I did as a kid running around the neighborhood with sticks mimmicking sounds of war and calling ourselves GIs.
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Alternate reality simulated in reality.
It's a sim!
It's a game!
Wait ... it's both!
I won't be hurt by being shot down by a Spit being remote controlled by a 'YerMomma' squadron guy/gal portraying them-self as 'DethMonger' and won't be worried/embarrassed if they shoot down my 'VF-17 Jolly Roger' F4U being remote controlled less efficiently by me .... portrayed, somewhat, through an AHII online persona I call 'Ensign Guthrie.'
And hopefully nobody will be upset by my not saluting in a text buffer I have shrunk down to minimum scale as to not impede my field of view.
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why WOULDN'T they have historically accurate squad names?
Some folks might find it disrespectfull. I believe that it's a good way to HONOR the actions of men who REALLY FOUGHT and REALLY DIED in those units. However the behavior of SOME of the AH pilots flying under those bloody flags is anything but honorable ... and could EASILY be construed as objectionable.
You asked ...
:eek:
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I think the distinction is one of those who wish to honour past squadrons and those who would wish to wear the mantle of past squadrons.
Where historical squadrons still exist.................. (and some do. ) I suppose the polite thing to do would be to ask them (the actual squadrons concerned) if its OK.
If afraid of the reply then I would question whether the motivation was one of honouring or just being a wannabe hero.
However being formally given permission by e.g 41 Squadron RAF to fly their colours in game......................... ...... :salute
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Some folks might find it disrespectfull. I believe that it's a good way to HONOR the actions of men who REALLY FOUGHT and REALLY DIED in those units. However the behavior of SOME of the AH pilots flying under those bloody flags is anything but honorable ... and could EASILY be construed as objectionable.
You asked ...
:eek:
I very rarely see one flying under a historical squadname being dishonorable. Let it be an english, american or german historical name. I know 1-2 exceptions but thats very rare.
JG11, KN, 71st, 80th, Duxies, VF-17 i think, 39th Cobras, mostly good men who fly for the fight.
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... VF-17 i think ... mostly good men who fly for the fight.
http://vf-17.webuda.com/squadron.html
http://www.wix.com/arlogu3/vf-17-jolly-rogers#!vf-17-%6043--%6044 (http://www.wix.com/arlogu3/vf-17-jolly-rogers#!vf-17-%6043--%6044)
:cheers:
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I very rarely see one flying under a historical squadname being dishonorable. Let it be an english, american or german historical name. I know 1-2 exceptions but thats very rare.
JG11, KN, 71st, 80th, Duxies, VF-17 i think, 39th Cobras, mostly good men who fly for the fight.
i flew with KN for about a day! pick me pick me pick me!!!!!!
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Ban historical names too, cuz they sux!!!
Such like Krupnski, Debrody...
Dont forget to ban historical skins and planes too... i want my Coca-Cola F22!
haha
:bolt:
Does that goes for the same on the pink Hello kitty A6M?
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I'd rather deal with 4 different variants of the Redtails in game, then try and pronouce the gyougyouickeickepangzooowampn eeeeeeewomp squad.
NI!
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Knite,
Thats japanese roughly for fishermens association. I think it's a joke and a troll to see if we are awake.
Kind of like the word Kemosabe from the Lone Ranger really comes from the Minnisota Ojibwe word "giimoozaabi": One who sneaks.
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Kind of like the word Kemosabe from the Lone Ranger really comes from the Minnisota Ojibwe word "giimoozaabi": One who sneaks.
Close ... Maybe you win a cigarillo ? It means NIGHT WALKER and implies more than just "Sneaky." Definately a SCARY GUY !!! Do we have one in AH yet?
:cool:
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i flew with KN for about a day! pick me pick me pick me!!!!!!
Really?
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Really?
You didn't see him?
He must have been flying the skin that isn't finished, yet :devil
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Aces%20High%20Screenies/Nowotny%20A5/ahss8.jpg)
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Really?
He flew on channel for a couple of days as a KN prospective member.
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I find the use of historical squads/etc very weird and slightly awkward (To say the least). Does anyone feel the same or agree on this?
I find it is a great tribute and a good way to learn a little history while having fun at the same time. These are THE reasons I started our virtual 91st BG, because there are others like myself that share that same sentiment. <S>
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Knite was half right though, I ended the squad name quoting Monty Python's Knights who say "Ni!" because I can't remember how to spell the damn squad name.
Here's what Kemosabe really means:
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width/hash/d9/97/d997dcee317fecc22e942dd10d593924.jpg)
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You didn't see him?
He must have been flying the skin that isn't finished, yet :devil
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Aces%20High%20Screenies/Nowotny%20A5/ahss8.jpg)
Yummy
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I found the reply by Tilt comforting in my position of feeling awkward, anyone else find that (if they felt awkward in the first place)? :-)
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Historical Squad names should be allowed, as it gives pride in to a squad as well as historical documentation of the squad. For example my former squad 367th Dynamite Gang has a very nice background that's quite detailed and interesting to read about.
It made me learn to fly the P47D40 and P38J, I had permission from the former real members of the 367th as well as the CO of the Virtual squadron to made a website for the Aces High squad.
Banning them would be idiotic and flat out stupid when there's more history in having them then making up some virtual squadron name.
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Like uncooked shellfish
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The Godzillas. 69th Daisychainers.
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I can't speak to anyone elses squadrons, but real vets of the 479th FG that our guys have been in contact with over the years have had positive reactions to the fact that their combat unit is still being remembered today. I'm sitting here looking in our email archives at a message from a combat vet from the real fighter group, and it is nothing but positive.
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I can't speak to anyone elses squadrons, but real vets of the 479th FG that our guys have been in contact with over the years have had positive reactions to the fact that their combat unit is still being remembered today. I'm sitting here looking in our email archives at a message from a combat vet from the real fighter group, and it is nothing but positive.
Had the same reaction from an 80th vet when I sent him a screenshot of his bird. Of course our old buddy Earl Miller had no problem flying with guys in a Airwarrior scenario when we put his wartime unit in. Folks were thrilled to get to wing a cartoon Jug with him in a skin representing his wartime squadron. He was very flattered that his P39 is skinned in AH too.