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Title: French horn
Post by: B-17 on February 23, 2012, 04:03:30 PM
I just picked it up today, playing a double horn (with thumb valve) and I'm wondering if anyone here has played, and if they have tips? Other than the usual, "keep your mouth tight" sort of stuff. I already play tuba, trombone and euphonium (and could play trumpet if pressed) So I think I might have heard most of the tips...


Anyone else play brass/strings/woodwings/percussion/reed instruments?

SAXES DON'T COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :furious :mad: :bhead :bhead
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Flench on February 23, 2012, 04:20:06 PM
OH I thought you said flench horn , lol j/K . No but I can blow a goat's horn . Not many people can do that . lol .
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: B-17 on February 23, 2012, 04:21:46 PM
OH I thought you said flench horn , lol j/K . No but I can blow a goat's horn . Not many people can do that . lol .

:lol
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: shppr01 on February 23, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
the fingering is similar to that of the trumpet. Just watch the thumb movements!
post a soundbyte when you can !
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: B-17 on February 23, 2012, 04:27:10 PM
the fingering is similar to that of the trumpet. Just watch the thumb movements!
post a soundbyte when you can !


That's true, they are reasonably similar, and yeah, thumb valve is REALLY messing me up-- tuba euphoium and trumpet all only have 3 valves-- 1 key!! :P

It'll most likely be a youtube clip
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Flench on February 23, 2012, 04:27:43 PM
I would love to learn a trumpet and I bet being able to blow a goat's horn I could do it . It's all in the lip's .
EDIT: yeah do a Youtube clip B-17 .
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Flipperk on February 23, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
played the trombone and tuba.  always wanted to learn how to play the french horn.
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: xNOVAx on February 23, 2012, 05:16:58 PM
I love what the french horn is capable of.. Very hard to master apparently, but an awesome instrument  :rock

One of my favorite examples of of the French Horn being used in an orchestral setting. Pretty powerful stuff, especially around the 0:39 and 5:04 marks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB71uZFLwUc
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: kilo2 on February 23, 2012, 05:31:08 PM
I played it from 7th grade till I was a senior in high school.

The thing that separates good french horn player from great french horn players is the ability to hit the highest notes.

I believe it was a D cant remember exactly. I could get very close but really couldn't hit that.

Does the french horn you are playing have a trigger?

Edit: We are talking about the concert french horn and not the awful marching french horn correct?
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Babalonian on February 23, 2012, 06:14:32 PM
I just picked it up today, playing a double horn (with thumb valve) and I'm wondering if anyone here has played, and if they have tips? Other than the usual, "keep your mouth tight" sort of stuff. I already play tuba, trombone and euphonium (and could play trumpet if pressed) So I think I might have heard most of the tips...


Anyone else play brass/strings/woodwings/percussion/reed instruments?

SAXES DON'T COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :furious :mad: :bhead :bhead

Once upon a time I used to have a lot of time racked up behind the clarinet, and eventualy was one of only two bass clarinet players at my high school for the 4-years I was there.  Last couple years I played I was getting bored with it, no new challenge was in it for me unless I talked my family into forking out the $ for private lessons/tutoring/schooling... and I think at the time I was more concerned in coercing $ outa them for a 3rd-hand car.  I used to know a few keys on the sax too.  Been so long now, I can only maybe remember enough keys on a clarinet to play one or two scales.

But yeah, I loved it, and the gift of being able to read, compose (or at least, simpley write down) and apreciate music so early on was a blessing to me I feel.  To this day I can hear a piece of music playing in my head while reading it right off the sheet, before actually hearing it played or any sound made, and that is a wonder to me, as it's almost being litterate in a language that so many others in this world are illiterate in... yet it is not a language, just sounds, and every language has sounds.

Edit:  Oh jeez, I can't believe I forgot, it's been a long time - the other Bass Clarinetist in school was mostly blind... like further-than-8-inches-forget-about-even-seeing-a-silohet-blind blind, cane and all (he even had a dog that our fascist administrators would be kind enough to let him bring to school and use for rare and special events like a field trip or concert at a different school).  If you practice enough before performing a piece you don't need the sheet music, but with him we (most the clarinets, and especially me being the other bass) had no choice but to practice enough to of learned most every piece by heart with him (and lord knows he probabley practiced at home twice as much and hard as the next kid).  He wa such a nice person and god-gifted player too, especialy on the regular clarinet and in comparison to anything I could do, always loved helping him out and even picking up something new from him on occasion.
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Karnak on February 23, 2012, 06:41:32 PM
I played trumpet in middle school and high school, but that is 20+ years behind me now.
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: wil3ur on February 23, 2012, 06:42:34 PM
Learn to read in F, and learn the thumb button.  It may seem wierd now, but as a 4-valve tuba player I can tell you the fingerings will be much quicker when using your extra valve.  The sooner you learn it, the easier it'll get.  Learn the real fingering/lip positions as well because it won't ALWAYS be faster, but it can be.

Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Pigslilspaz on February 23, 2012, 06:50:13 PM
I just picked it up today, playing a double horn (with thumb valve) and I'm wondering if anyone here has played, and if they have tips? Other than the usual, "keep your mouth tight" sort of stuff. I already play tuba, trombone and euphonium (and could play trumpet if pressed) So I think I might have heard most of the tips...


Anyone else play brass/strings/woodwings/percussion/reed instruments?

SAXES DON'T COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :furious :mad: :bhead :bhead

Can you please explain to me why the Saxophone, god's given instrument, does not count?



Also, currently trying to get my hands on a Tenor, anywhere you folks think I should look?
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: branch37 on February 23, 2012, 06:52:59 PM
I played trombone in high school.  I even got bored and went through the closets in the band hall and found a trombone with 3 valves and a fixed slide.
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: wil3ur on February 23, 2012, 06:59:09 PM
I played trombone in high school.  I even got bored and went through the closets in the band hall and found a trombone with 3 valves and a fixed slide.

A trombone may have 1 valve and a working slide and remain a trombone...  A trombone with 3 valves and a fixed slide is an abomination!     :old:
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: vorticon on February 23, 2012, 08:31:59 PM
played french horn in high school. never really practiced so i was terrible. from what i remember, all of the easy notes were either fully open or just the first valve, so it was all lip control on the tiny little mouthpiece. hand position (and adjusting it on the fly) inside the bell is pretty important.
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Motherland on February 23, 2012, 08:43:56 PM
I kinda wanted to learn to play french horn, but then I realized fully that it's transposed a fourth... yeah, no thanks haha. Haven't played a transposing instrument until now, and don't really plan on it.
Trombone, guitar, piano and viola.

It's a really beautiful instrument, though. When I own 3/4 of the world's wealth I'm going to have a chamber group composed of an oboe, pair of english horns, a bassoon and a french horn play entertain me at all times... really I don't see the point of any other wind instruments
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: B-17 on February 23, 2012, 09:41:16 PM
I played trombone in high school.  I even got bored and went through the closets in the band hall and found a trombone with 3 valves and a fixed slide.

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Can you please explain to me why the Saxophone, god's given instrument, does not count?

On the rare occasion I hear a really good sax player, it still isn't quiet enough. My Tuba could play louder for Pete's sake :rofl

Learn to read in F, and learn the thumb button.  It may seem wierd now, but as a 4-valve tuba player I can tell you the fingerings will be much quicker when using your extra valve.  The sooner you learn it, the easier it'll get.  Learn the real fingering/lip positions as well because it won't ALWAYS be faster, but it can be.

Yeah, it is definitely wierd having a 4th valve to use, and I am starting to read in F, but it's really screwing with me (the clef, I mean) I play bagpipes, violin, and Tenor Clef Euphonium, so it's wierd how a B for me is a concert F (or something? Haven't quite got it figured out yet.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB71uZFLwUc

:rock I think this might be my favorite-- they've got a few times in there, but it's too long a piece to say :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B49N46I39Y

Title: Re: French horn
Post by: B-17 on February 23, 2012, 09:43:31 PM
I kinda wanted to learn to play french horn, but then I realized fully that it's transposed a fourth... yeah, no thanks haha. Haven't played a transposing instrument until now, and don't really plan on it.
Trombone, guitar, piano and viola.

It's a really beautiful instrument, though. When I own 3/4 of the world's wealth I'm going to have a chamber group composed of an oboe, pair of english horns, a bassoon and a french horn play entertain me at all times... really I don't see the point of any other wind instruments

Are you serious? That's awesome!!! I do too, and I've met two, maybe 3 other people who play viola  :D :O :aok :) :rock
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: xNOVAx on February 23, 2012, 09:49:29 PM
:rock I think this might be my favorite-- they've got a few times in there, but it's too long a piece to say :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B49N46I39Y

Jupiter is a great piece.. We played that in our high school band.. Ahh those were the days :)
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Motherland on February 23, 2012, 09:50:55 PM
Well I kinda play viola. I played for a few years in middle school and recently I was put in the orchestra to flesh out the viola section (there's four of us...). But I'm pretty bad at it.
String instruments are... hard haha
Especially with minimal instruction
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: B-17 on February 23, 2012, 10:30:00 PM
Jupiter is a great piece.. We played that in our high school band.. Ahh those were the days :)

That is SERIOUSLY impressive. I saw the sheet music for it once, and almost had a heart attack :P
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: curry1 on February 23, 2012, 10:40:52 PM
That is SERIOUSLY impressive. I saw the sheet music for it once, and almost had a heart attack :P

Haha I played that my sophomore year in High School.  I play the sax :furious .  Jupiter is a whole lot of fun after it is mastered.  Of course we played the band version.

Here my senior year we are playing these three pieces for our band Festival competition.  I think most of everyone on the forum will recognize our march.

March from 1941:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hP9_-DB_8

Armenian Dances:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkkqQlsgL08&feature=related

Incantation and Dance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw2s3Y6NZwg
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: B-17 on February 23, 2012, 10:48:32 PM
Of course we played the band version.

Oh. Still impressive :)
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: curry1 on February 23, 2012, 11:04:21 PM
Can you please explain to me why the Saxophone, god's given instrument, does not count?



Also, currently trying to get my hands on a Tenor, anywhere you folks think I should look?

A fellow sexy saxman here.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/foolishtook/Psych/5l5r0kjpg.gif)
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: ozrocker on February 24, 2012, 07:37:14 AM
Are you serious? That's awesome!!! I do too, and I've met two, maybe 3 other people who play viola  :D :O :aok :) :rock
I played a Viola :aok She was 15, me 17. Dated for about 2 years.

                                                                                                                                      :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Shuffler on February 24, 2012, 12:36:26 PM
Tenor Sax FTW  :neener:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B3OeUIKmmPg/TZNkfclw5HI/AAAAAAAAADw/P04AmUk_vP0/s1600/saxophone-tenor-039-etude-jupiter-jts-789gl-verni.jpg)
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: wil3ur on February 24, 2012, 01:10:03 PM
Great French Horn piece... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORp0T6zYByM


 :salute
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Pigslilspaz on February 24, 2012, 01:15:02 PM
Tenor Sax FTW  :neener:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B3OeUIKmmPg/TZNkfclw5HI/AAAAAAAAADw/P04AmUk_vP0/s1600/saxophone-tenor-039-etude-jupiter-jts-789gl-verni.jpg)

Look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUbk2A76NB4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUbk2A76NB4)

I can't stand the original song, but this cover is AMAZING, and great combo with the Alto
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Shuffler on February 24, 2012, 01:50:53 PM
Look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUbk2A76NB4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUbk2A76NB4)

I can't stand the original song, but this cover is AMAZING, and great combo with the Alto


>>>>>>>> Better   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j3-lYm1gmM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j3-lYm1gmM)
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: B-17 on February 24, 2012, 03:27:11 PM
Well, I somewhat take back what I said... Baritone and Bass saxophones, I can manage :devil
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: Babalonian on February 24, 2012, 06:07:31 PM
Can you please explain to me why the Saxophone, god's given instrument, does not count?



Also, currently trying to get my hands on a Tenor, anywhere you folks think I should look?

They're like some coveted trophy at that age to those trying to learn to be the best at it.... and unfortunatley (at least in my schools with our sax players), like every coveted trophy, there's always a completely new fielding of fresh-faced competitors to show up and compete for it, every year.  (there were some that really tried and always kept at it, and I mean at least some commitment, to the point that most of them would get a used sax for themselves rather than fight over an unguarenteed loaner from the school each semester).
Title: Re: French horn
Post by: B-17 on February 24, 2012, 08:27:34 PM
It's not only saxes... it also happens lots with the trombone. Those who THINK they have the chops for high 'E's, 'D's and 'Bb's and such, but actually don't. Then the music teacher tells them to shut up and play 3rd trombone. I love it when that happens :devil