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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: newz on March 18, 2012, 02:29:07 AM
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As a returning player I'm disappointed to see that there is a big time restriction on switching countries.
Not sure about most folk here, but when i log in and see only green dar, i want to switch countries!
Caused me to log off in disgust!
no fight = no fun
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Defending A73( not sure,the base west), last evening before map reset was a blast, lots of red vulchers ! :rock
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As a returning player I'm disappointed to see that there is a big time restriction on switching countries.
Not sure about most folk here, but when i log in and see only green dar, i want to switch countries!
Caused me to log off in disgust!
no fight = no fun
News, the horders complained when people switched to fight against them, apparently HiTech caved to the whines. It is what it is.
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I still can't figure out how someone can not find a fight. No matter what the side numbers are, I have never had a problem finding someone who can kick my butt.
Fred
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Dude if there's no fight start de acking a base someone will up to defend.
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Dude if there's no fight start de acking a base someone will up to defend.
...and then they run away as soon as they know your not going for the base.
I still can't figure out how someone can not find a fight. No matter what the side numbers are, I have never had a problem finding someone who can kick my butt.
Fred
Some of us actually look for fights where we might have a chance to win one or two. Sure I can find a horde where I can get ganged every flight too.
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News, the horders complained when people switched to fight against them, apparently HiTech caved to the whines. It is what it is.
Enough with the horde whine.
Time limit was changed because of spy whinning. The side effect is that fewer people jump sides in search of cheap perk rides and fights leading to more frequent cases of lop-sided numbers.
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I still can't figure out how someone can not find a fight. No matter what the side numbers are, I have never had a problem finding someone who can kick my butt.
Fred
I have the opposite problem. Funny how everyone here isn't exactly the same as the other.
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2 Arenas during prime time, 1 hour side switch, 1 arena off hours.
:pray
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That old chestnut :)
There nothing up with the game except the Brewster :)
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Oh geez....not this crap again.
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Some of us actually look for fights where we might have a chance to win one or two. Sure I can find a horde where I can get ganged every flight too.
I will repeat that I have never had a problem finding a fight, but I guess if you always want it your way, then you need to visit the closest Burger King. :D
Fred
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As a returning player I'm disappointed to see that there is a big time restriction on switching countries.
Not sure about most folk here, but when i log in and see only green dar, i want to switch countries!
Caused me to log off in disgust!
no fight = no fun
100% agreement.
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2 Arenas during prime time, 1 hour side switch, 1 arena off hours.
:pray
1 hour switch :aok
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Well I am new here but finding a fight seems real easy. All I have to do is try to takeoff and BAM they got me!!!! :O
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Well I am new here but finding a fight seems real easy. All I have to do is try to takeoff and BAM they got me!!!! :O
see but if you were able to switch at will, you can go to the other country and bam get killed as soon as you up too :). get used to about 10 to 15 guys whining about not being able to switch to get easier kills.
semp
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Well I am new here but finding a fight seems real easy. All I have to do is try to takeoff and BAM they got me!!!! :O
:lol Same for me... Longest I had to go to find a fight was 25 minutes... and that was at 3:30 am CT
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Id go for 3 hr switch. Hell 11 is fine with me, anything less than 12 is progress.
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see but if you were able to switch at will, you can go to the other country and bam get killed as soon as you up too :). get used to about 10 to 15 guys whining about not being able to switch to get easier kills.
semp
:rofl :rofl
you have no clue you spout and spout but nothing comes out.
easier kills :rofl
I switch whenever the green guys out number drastically the red.... how is that trying to get easy kills....rhetorical question :rolleyes:
just because YOU would do that does not mean every one switching does. :aok
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:rofl :rofl
you have no clue you spout and spout but nothing comes out.
easier kills :rofl
I switch whenever the green guys out number drastically the red.... how is that trying to get easy kills....rhetorical question :rolleyes:
just because YOU would do that does not mean every one switching does. :aok
you forgot I played with several of your squadies for a while. that's what we did.
and if it really bother you guys so much to have way too many greens around, then you shouldnt be bishops most nights when they are hording. or you gonna deny that you mostly stick to bishops late at night?
semp
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you forgot I played with several of your squadies for a while. that's what we did.
and if it really bother you guys so much to have way too many greens around, then you shouldnt be bishops most nights when they are hording. or you gonna deny that you mostly stick to bishops late at night?
semp
what you do and what I do is so far and beyond each other they are on different sides of the fighting scale. :aok
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Defending A73( not sure,the base west), last evening before map reset was a blast, lots of red vulchers ! :rock
I switched to fight at this base for the bish as that was only red dar i saw when i logged on.
Too bad after a dinner break and a map reset i couldn't find the same. :salute
Oh geez....not this crap again.
As a 7 year member here who has been near a model citizen I feel quite justified in letting HiTech know my strong feelings about their product.
If that bothers you grandpa then move along!
get used to about 10 to 15 guys whining about not being able to switch to get easier kills.
Easier kills?
I go from a 6v1 advantage to a 2v6 disadvantage. That is easier kill?
:headscratch:
:lol Same for me... Longest I had to go to find a fight was 25 minutes... and that was at 3:30 am CT
25 minute till combat o that sounds fun :bhead
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:lol Same for me... Longest I had to go to find a fight was 25 minutes... and that was at 3:30 am CT
you have only played online for one month besides the two free weeks that you got. so in your case it is weeks before you can find a fight :rofl :rofl :rofl.
semp
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see but if you were able to switch at will, you can go to the other country and bam get killed as soon as you up too :). get used to about 10 to 15 guys whining about not being able to switch to get easier kills.
semp
man some people change to even the side numbers you know that... some always fly for the low number side actually
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man some people change to even the side numbers you know that... some always fly for the low number side actually
:aok
Well said and true!
Too bad some folks refuse to see that!
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Newz, I agree with you. I was very disappointed when I came back to a 12 hour switch limit. Of course my squad stays rook, so I'm usually with them. But those off hours when no one is on I like to switch around to avoid the hordes. To differ from most everyone else, I don't like full red or full green dar bars. I prefer to find those small fights with a couple of guys on each side going at it--usually get some better fights out of it, too--and being able to change countries in a reasonable amount of time really helps in finding that.
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12 hours for the free side switch, but 2 hours to the low numbers side...
the "switch to get easyer kills" ones woud be restricted, but the side balancers/good fight fighters could be happy in the same time.
Sad HTC is ignoring theese requests.
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man some people change to even the side numbers you know that... some always fly for the low number side actually
if that was true then why were the numbers not even back when we had a 2 hour switch? fact is most people switched to horde with whichever country was hording at the time. some people did switch to low side but most switched just to horde. I still remember seeing the numbers go up for whichever country was about to win the war. it never failed.
but what I find ironic is when people state that there is no fights anywhere on whichever country they are so they must switch,I consider that an outright lie. I dont switch and I never have a problem finding fights from flying with 300 countymen to just a few. . as I dont think I am the luckiest guy in ah when it comes to find a fight of any size.
semp
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I dont switch and I never have a problem finding fights
Deacking undefended bases late at night is not considered a fight to most people.
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"fact is most people switched to horde with whichever country was hording at the time."
Could you please post your factual data on this? Or is this in fact your opinion on the matter?
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if that was true then why were the numbers not even back when we had a 2 hour switch? fact is most people switched to horde with whichever country was hording at the time. some people did switch to low side but most switched just to horde. I still remember seeing the numbers go up for whichever country was about to win the war. it never failed.
semp
Yes you did see that. What typically happened was the new guys would switch thinking they were ending up with free perks. I think HTC had put a time limit that you have to be at the winning side for a certain amount of time to collect the perkies. Besides, if perk points are what you are playing for, then switch to the lowest country when the map is just about to reset and up a high eny ride like the 205 and just watch how you can double the perk rewards to winning the war.
One man's trash is another's gold and switching to the lowest country just before a reset is(was) a blast for me as well as a few others. Problem here is that 1 or 2 dorks ruined the side switching option for the guys that used it for good intentions and IMO, the 12 hour rule is just downright silly.
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My guess is that HTC staff had better things to do than police the complaints about poor sportsmanship and griefers. They inserted the 12 hour rule and now only have to listen to the complaints about not enough fights.
What would you do, considering the number must have been the determining factor: haxxors :devil vs. whiners :mad: (Of course, I don't consider either side to be a hack or whiner, but just inserting some humor; << lawyered up)
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I think HTC had put a time limit that you have to be at the winning side for a certain amount of time to collect the perkies.
My guess is that HTC staff had better things to do than police the complaints about poor sportsmanship and griefers. They inserted the 12 hour rule and now only have to listen to the complaints about not enough fights.
HTC stated in a post not long after the change, that after they removed the split LW arenas and went back to a single arena, they forgot to change the country-switch time back to 12 hours as it had been before the LW arena split. Nothing more, nothing less.
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see but if you were able to switch at will, you can go to the other country and bam get killed as soon as you up too :). get used to about 10 to 15 guys whining about not being able to switch to get easier kills.
semp
you've proven again and again that you have no clue what you are talking about. can't wait to hear the gem you post in response to this.
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Compromise Gents and ask for a 5 or 6 hour time limit. :cool: Would we like 2 LW Arenas with Caps put back in?
I do remember side switchers that would try to Game the Game. Not many but enough to ruin fights for others. I often avoid areas of uneven Dar Bars unless it's more Red. Upping against the odds is the fun of a game with no real consequences.
For the OP: If you just logged in and wanted to switch YOU CAN. You just can't switch back right away, make your decision carefully. :aok
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Compromise Gents and ask for a 5 or 6 hour time limit. :cool: Would we like 2 LW Arenas with Caps put back in?
I do remember side switchers that would try to Game the Game. Not many but enough to ruin fights for others. I often avoid areas of uneven Dar Bars unless it's more Red. Upping against the odds is the fun of a game with no real consequences.
For the OP: If you just logged in and wanted to switch YOU CAN. You just can't switch back right away, make your decision carefully. :aok
6 hours would not be awful, but not as good as 2 hours (even tough I prefer 1 hour)
12 hours is the same as 24 to me, with a possible exception for the weekends.
If I switch at 6PM, local time, that means that I cannot switch until 6AM the next morning by which time, I am leaving for work and obviously cannot play until I get home at 6PM that evening, effectively making it a 24 hour side switch for me. I cannot imagine that there are ot a lot of folks in the same position that I am with regard to having a job and not being able to play during most weekday hours.
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I like the idea of a short 1 hour limit to switch to the low number country, but a longer limit to switch to a high number country.
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For the OP: If you just logged in and wanted to switch YOU CAN. You just can't switch back right away, make your decision carefully. :aok
As long as it's been more than 12 hours since the last switch. Just logging back into the arena won't reset the switch time to zero.
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Enough with the horde whine.
Time limit was changed because of spy whinning. The side effect is that fewer people jump sides in search of cheap perk rides and fights leading to more frequent cases of lop-sided numbers.
:rofl
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Enough with the horde whine.
Time limit was changed because of spy whinning. The side effect is that fewer people jump sides in search of cheap perk rides and fights leading to more frequent cases of lop-sided numbers.
Hitech said the reason for the change was not spying, but because "this is the way it used to be in the one arena set up"
:X
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as grizz said those of you thats been around for more than 5 years know that the switch time use to be 12 hours.
with that said its done for the good of the game. if you want to switch sides suck it up and know you will be there for 12 hours.
Newz nothing meant bad here buddy
i just dont see why we should be complaining about something so little.
anyone here knows how to start up a hell storm at a base
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News, the horders complained when people switched to fight against them, apparently HiTech caved to the whines. It is what it is.
how the counter whine campaign working ut for ya? :uhoh
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Deacking undefended bases late at night is not considered a fight to most people.
I coulddan sworn i killed many of them at that base. it was actually a pretty good small fight for an hour or two. and them pesky fighters kept upping trying to stop us from taking the base after it turned from a furball into a base take. you just got there at the end when i wanted to make sure the 88 couldnt reach the town as they killed a goon before. :salute
semp
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"fact is most people switched to horde with whichever country was hording at the time."
Could you please post your factual data on this? Or is this in fact your opinion on the matter?
post your data that the 12 hour switch stops from you from finding a fight. if this was true we would have hundreds of people coming here whining about being stuck in a country with no fights. but as it is there's perhaps 15 to 20 that whine once or twice a week on their "i cant find a fight" thread.
semp
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:rofl :rofl
you have no clue you spout and spout but nothing comes out.
easier kills :rofl
I switch whenever the green guys out number drastically the red.... how is that trying to get easy kills....rhetorical question :rolleyes:
just because YOU would do that does not mean every one switching does. :aok
IM not gonna lie I stay in the horde a good bit simply becasue Im not good enough to fight 1v1 with Consistant Sucsess. I think Semp was tying to point out horde inhabitants aren't the greatest out there.
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you've proven again and again that you have no clue what you are talking about. can't wait to hear the gem you post in response to this.
Fix Your sp ac e bar :devil
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IM not gonna lie I stay in the horde a good bit simply becasue Im not good enough to fight 1v1 with Consistant Sucsess. I think Semp was tying to point my horde inhabitants aren't the greatest out there.
post your data that the 12 hour switch stops from you from finding a fight. if this was true we would have hundreds of people coming here whining about being stuck in a country with no fights. but as it is there's perhaps 15 to 20 that whine once or twice a week on their "i cant find a fight" thread.
semp
for a new guy that is cool beans...but for guys that have been here a few years or more its just lame.....semp is a perfect example he likes to vulch and gang...to him that's a fight :rofl
I will say this..... if you stay in the hoard you will most likely never be able to do good in a 1vs1...and absolutely never be able to win a 1vs multiples......
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post your data that the 12 hour switch stops from you from finding a fight. if this was true we would have hundreds of people coming here whining about being stuck in a country with no fights. but as it is there's perhaps 15 to 20 that whine once or twice a week on their "i cant find a fight" thread.
semp
He never stated his views were different to yours, he asked you a question. You do not even know his opinion on this you have assumed it right or wrong and that shows were your head is at even down to your reasoning, it is based on an factless assumption, an opinion, and worse, one that cannot tolerate someone else's opinion.
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for a new guy that is cool beans...but for guys that have been here a few years or more its just lame.....semp is a perfect example he likes to vulch and gang...to him that's a fight :rofl
I will say this..... if you stay in the hoard you will most likely never be able to do good in a 1vs1...and absolutely never be able to win a 1vs multiples......
There's only 3-4 guys that can beat Semp. :devil On a serious note while you disagree with his style, there is no reason to completely fly off the handle. Yes, Semp is not very good at conveying his ideas and I am not that much better but I do think some things get blown out of proportion and misconstrued as it were
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for a new guy that is cool beans...but for guys that have been here a few years or more its just lame.....semp is a perfect example he likes to vulch and gang...to him that's a fight :rofl
I will say this..... if you stay in the hoard you will most likely never be able to do good in a 1vs1...and absolutely never be able to win a 1vs multiples......
perhaps i never aim to be good at this game. I have no skill whatsoever, but I have lots of fun. funny thing is when i flew the spit8 I would nail more than my share of multiples of 1v1. and oh the whine about getting rid of the training wheels. and that was after coming from flying the zeke and which I would do the same. then I realized i was more concentrating into killing crap than actually enjoying the game. I fly what I fly because it's fun for me. I dont really care about perks or points as they are all meaningless.
I dont pay 15 bucks a month and spend 3k on my puter to have some skill. I spend it because i want to have fun. so fi that bothers you then so be it. you play your game the way you want. just like the rest of us.
perhaps if you really want to know what I do when i play you are more than welcome to come and join and perhaps you will see that vulching and hording is not exactly all I do. hell I might even teach you how to find a small fight where there is none. as that is one skill you havent mastered yet.
semp
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:bhead
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anyone here knows how to start up a hell storm at a base
That hasn't been my experience.
I've flown to bases and circled around at under 5k until i run out of gas
more times than i care to remember.
A 12 hour limit may be small potatoes to you but to my style of play it
can ruin my fun for the night.
Too bad HTC doesn't have some way to issue special switching rights
to those like myself who have a sense of fair play and good sportsmanship.
As with most things in life a few bad apples always spoil it for the majority.
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That hasn't been my experience.
I've flown to bases and circled around at under 5k until i run out of gas
more times than i care to remember.
Lately doing this is just giving somebody a chance to win the 88mm Air Kill Lottery.
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perhaps i never aim to be good at this game. I have no skill whatsoever, but I have lots of fun. funny thing is when i flew the spit8 I would nail more than my share of multiples of 1v1. and oh the whine about getting rid of the training wheels. and that was after coming from flying the zeke and which I would do the same. then I realized i was more concentrating into killing crap than actually enjoying the game. I fly what I fly because it's fun for me. I dont really care about perks or points as they are all meaningless.
I dont pay 15 bucks a month and spend 3k on my puter to have some skill. I spend it because i want to have fun. so fi that bothers you then so be it. you play your game the way you want. just like the rest of us.
perhaps if you really want to know what I do when i play you are more than welcome to come and join and perhaps you will see that vulching and hording is not exactly all I do. hell I might even teach you how to find a small fight where there is none. as that is one skill you havent mastered yet.
semp
spit 8....hahaha
nothing you do bothers me...... except when you spout off at the chops at what you clearly are clueless on.
which is this whole 12 hour switch time, plus many other things I have read from you......
when I play a game I want to be the best I can be....not just in games but everything and anything I do in life.....to me being decent at what I very much enjoy is fun....... besides the fact.....I have fun fighting red guys for my kills not green :aok
There's only 3-4 guys that can beat Semp. :devil On a serious note while you disagree with his style, there is no reason to completely fly off the handle. Yes, Semp is not very good at conveying his ideas and I am not that much better but I do think some things get blown out of proportion and misconstrued as it were
ummm that was far....far.....far..... from flying off the handle..... :O
man oh man you would hate to see me really go off...... :rofl
he is off his rocker and has no clue as to what he is saying that's for sure.
edit.......
maybe I am rough around the edges...sorry if I offended ya semp.....I say what is on my mind...good or bad.....that is one thing you can always count on me for.
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post your data that the 12 hour switch stops from you from finding a fight. if this was true we would have hundreds of people coming here whining about being stuck in a country with no fights. but as it is there's perhaps 15 to 20 that whine once or twice a week on their "i cant find a fight" thread.
semp
I never said that.
What I will say that I have had issues with...and a few others have said as well...I may jump on and switch to what is currently lower number side/or just to fly with friends, but when the off hours hit (and they do for me since I am in Hawaii) I may be stuck on the side with the numbers and there is little to no air to air action. You can feel free to search the bbs for those statements.
Last night was a good example of that, Silat and I had to fly two sectors to a fight between rooks and bish, just to find any sort of semblance of air to air combat. So, yeah, we found a fight, just a bit rediculous to have to fly two sectors to do it, when we could have went bish/rooks and been right in the middle of it. We ended up logging after two of those flights...guess its a good thing we pay by the month and not hour of flight time eh?
Sure, we could have gone and shot up some toolsheds and outhouses...but that just isnt our thing. You can have that....
Having said that, I am still waiting for you data for the facts you were speaking of? Or do you always talk like a woman in absolutes (everyone this, always that, never this, etc...) and speak of your opinion like it is an actual fact that everyone should already know? That is fine as well, gives me a better mental image of what is sitting behind your keyboard...
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There seems to be a dynamic to side switching by those who complain the most against the 12 hour rule that is not coming out in these endless posts.
I will venture that switching at will is the real holy grail becasue the 3 country war dynamics change inside of 60 minutes from 2 country front to 2 country front around the maps during prime time. Like a surfer's pursit of the perfict set following weather fronts down a coast the side switchers want to be able to chase the ebb and flow of the fights. As the evening progresses they get left high in the parking lot of a beach that setteled into a calm with no way to chase the weather front becasue of the 12 hour rule. The fight they may want to chase has moved off to the back end of the map between the other two countires.
So for these true hard core fight chasers who probably have a gazillion perks to burn. Let them change sides once every 30 minutes or an hour for 100-300 perks. Some of them are then going to pay close to that to poach the cannon fodder in 262's for the next hour becasue the weather front of their last fight set moved on. As for the rest of those joining into the forum complaint line. It will be very costly just to switch sides to take advantage of strategic situations. And some people like to join in group complaints over things they didn't know they were missing in the first place.
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Let them change sides once every 30 minutes or an hour for 100-300 perks.
Best idea I've yet seen in these 12-hour threads.
- oldman (note that AvA has no restriction on side switching)
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There seems to be a dynamic to side switching by those who complain the most against the 12 hour rule that is not coming out in these endless posts.
I will venture that switching at will is the real holy grail becasue the 3 country war dynamics change inside of 60 minutes from 2 country front to 2 country front around the maps during prime time. Like a surfer's pursit of the perfict set following weather fronts down a coast the side switchers want to be able to chase the ebb and flow of the fights. As the evening progresses they get left high in the parking lot of a beach that setteled into a calm with no way to chase the weather front becasue of the 12 hour rule. The fight they may want to chase has moved off to the back end of the map between the other two countires.
So for these true hard core fight chasers who probably have a gazillion perks to burn. Let them change sides once every 30 minutes or an hour for 100-300 perks. Some of them are then going to pay close to that to poach the cannon fodder in 262's for the next hour becasue the weather front of their last fight set moved on. As for the rest of those joining into the forum complaint line. It will be very costly just to switch sides to take advantage of strategic situations. And some people like to join in group complaints over things they didn't know they were missing in the first place.
You can have every perk I've ever earned for that deal. When you only get a few hours a week to fly, being able to bounce to the fight is a great help. I could care less about the war, taking bases, changing the map or whatever. Being able to get to the fight without burning up the little time I have to fly would be nice.
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So for these true hard core fight chasers who probably have a gazillion perks to burn. Let them change sides once every 30 minutes or an hour for 100-300 perks.
If that were implemented I could finally use some perks ..... yeah i know I could up a perk ride too and that would certainly burn them ...but I can't use fast planes, I always end up in the ground ..well 90% of the time... I have tried moving about to find the big red dars of late... if I could get more time during american prime it would be a different story but as I only get to go up against the graveyard shift sometimes 2 changes would be good but not available at present .....
I should add I'm not disappointed...it would be nice to chase the big red dars as the times change and the side numbers change but I still find fun and if I don't....I go do something else.... I'm lucky though as I get more than my fair share of hours to play this game
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Sound like a great idea bustr...seeing that I do not fly a 262 all the time (as your post alludes: those who switch do so to only fly perk planes = falsehood), that will work out well.
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There seems to be a dynamic to side switching by those who complain the most against the 12 hour rule that is not coming out in these endless posts.
I will venture that switching at will is the real holy grail becasue the 3 country war dynamics change inside of 60 minutes from 2 country front to 2 country front around the maps during prime time. Like a surfer's pursit of the perfict set following weather fronts down a coast the side switchers want to be able to chase the ebb and flow of the fights. As the evening progresses they get left high in the parking lot of a beach that setteled into a calm with no way to chase the weather front becasue of the 12 hour rule. The fight they may want to chase has moved off to the back end of the map between the other two countires.
So for these true hard core fight chasers who probably have a gazillion perks to burn. Let them change sides once every 30 minutes or an hour for 100-300 perks. Some of them are then going to pay close to that to poach the cannon fodder in 262's for the next hour becasue the weather front of their last fight set moved on. As for the rest of those joining into the forum complaint line. It will be very costly just to switch sides to take advantage of strategic situations. And some people like to join in group complaints over things they didn't know they were missing in the first place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6PXoyNP1k
:x :cheers: :cheers: :bhead
:salute
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anyone remember what he original restriction on side switching was in the original Aces High, a week, two weeks?