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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: stealth on March 26, 2012, 04:59:20 PM
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Short and simple school is getting worse and worse. My school bans hugging, doing so will result in 2 days of out of school suspension. Yet I bring a pocket knife to school, swing it around at some boy who has tighter jeans then my sister and I don't even get the angry eye by the teachers.
In fact the only person in my school that isn't a student who makes sense, is my bloody language arts teacher. He's a retired army dude with tattoos all over his body and he's the only intelligent person around. Now I consider that just sad. Every other adult either was lonely as a child or ate paint chips as a kid, and grew up with the mindset that if you loose your V-Card before age 18 your worthless.
I hate school, the only nice thing is that "nice" girls go their to make me feel happy.(very happy)
School bans friendship-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gFP_kprL6I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gFP_kprL6I)
Now what do you think?(this is your time to make jokes about me since this is a school topic, they better be funny)
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You drew your blade and it didn't taste blood?
EDIT: That may or may not be disgraceful, depending on whether it is or is not a personal attack on your knife fighting abilities. You may wish to go off of school grounds and hug it out with the boy in the tight jeans. Or maybe not.
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He had jeans tighter then rope that choked me yesterday. Now he's disgraceful against all men.
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Ah, teenage angst. We needed more of that here... :rolleyes:
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So show a little love and you get a two day vacation, or pull a knife like a scared squeak and be stuck there all day? I think you have it wrong, thy seem to be promoting peace and friendship to me.
However, you should really focus on the class and not the ink and learn the differences between their there and they're, along with loose and lose, and continuing on through your and you're to also include then and than.
Bob
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However, you should really focus on the class and not the ink and learn the differences between their there and they're, along with loose and lose, and continuing on through your and you're to also include then and than.
I actually have to stick up for young Stealth here. When I first heard him on vox ~2 years ago he would swear like a drunken sailor and couldn't spell his way out of a wet paper sack.
His spelling and grammar has improved dramatically. I hope he's curbed the foul language too.
However, I'm still going to give him a hard time for pulling a blade on a nancy-boy and not having the berries to use it, especially when bare knuckles should have sufficed.
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This Planet needs more slaves like you,so dont go to scool
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This Planet needs more slaves like you,so dont go to scool
:)
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Banning friendship... ugh I wish I was still a brony :cry
On the note of school sucks, I agree, in my math class me and one girl count how many times my teacher has a anger attack, today it was 7 with 2 people hit in the faces with markers...
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I actually have to stick up for young Stealth here. When I first heard him on vox ~2 years ago he would swear like a drunken sailor and couldn't spell his way out of a wet paper sack.
His spelling and grammar has improved dramatically. I hope he's curbed the foul language too.
However, I'm still going to give him a hard time for pulling a blade on a nancy-boy and not having the berries to use it, especially when bare knuckles should have sufficed.
I just wanted to cut his pants and see how tight they we're, and my language arts teacher is putting me in on the word differences wagon so I'll have that fixed shortly.
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I just wanted to cut his pants and see how tight they we're
Just stop now.
Please.
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Just stop now.
Please.
I found my self at a strange corner, in a dark alleyway. I see pwink flowers with buuter flys.
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yup they banned "PDA" at my kids school...."Public Display of affection"
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I would kick my sons arse up around his shoulders if he ever pulled a knife on someone. Just remember that what goes around comes around and I hope no one sticks you when you least expect it.
Believe it or not, your school years are just a blink of the eye compared to the rest of your life. But in that short time you're laying the foundation for who you'll be for the rest of your life. Don't waste these years worrying about silly stuff like hugs and holding hands. It means nothing in the big scheme of things. Just do your work and get through school the best you can.
And when you get out of there and move on , you probably won't see 99% of those school friends ever again. So please keep that blade in your pocket, or better yet at home. If you think school sucks, drive by the local state prison sometime. Gladiator school ain't no joke. If you screw up and get sent there you'll be praying to GOD that they do have a policy against showing affection.
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I would kick my sons arse up around his shoulders if he ever pulled a knife on someone. Just remember that what goes around comes around and I hope no one sticks you when you least expect it.
Believe it or not, your school years are just a blink of the eye compared to the rest of your life. But in that short time you're laying the foundation for who you'll be for the rest of your life. Don't waste these years worrying about silly stuff like hugs and holding hands. It means nothing in the big scheme of things. Just do your work and get through school the best you can.
And when you get out of there and move on , you probably won't see 99% of those school friends ever again. So please keep that blade in your pocket, or better yet at home. If you think school sucks, drive by the local state prison sometime. Gladiator school ain't no joke. If you screw up and get sent there you'll be praying to GOD that they do have a policy against showing affection.
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I would kick my sons arse up around his shoulders if he ever pulled a knife on someone. Just remember that what goes around comes around and I hope no one sticks you when you least expect it.
Believe it or not, your school years are just a blink of the eye compared to the rest of your life. But in that short time you're laying the foundation for who you'll be for the rest of your life. Don't waste these years worrying about silly stuff like hugs and holding hands. It means nothing in the big scheme of things. Just do your work and get through school the best you can.
And when you get out of there and move on , you probably won't see 99% of those school friends ever again. So please keep that blade in your pocket, or better yet at home. If you think school sucks, drive by the local state prison sometime. Gladiator school ain't no joke. If you screw up and get sent there you'll be praying to GOD that they do have a policy against showing affection.
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but you know whats sad.... I never really believed anyone when they told me this, but now I have 38 days left in my high school career and I am wishing I had done less stupid, more intelligence. less bullying and more love. This senior year for me has been more real world educational then book educational just because at my school senior year is your year, your make your schedule, you do as you please, but consequences are still swift and hard. you dont like? Heres the door, dont let it hit you on the way out. I remember back in 9th grade I was busted for selling weed. I made a joke of it then because it was "cool" to do. now looking back and being a certified EMT, I realize just how stupid it was. I look at my high school transcript, and kick myself in the bellybutton because I was denied the one school I wanted in to.
Stealth, I don't know what grade your in, but take what uptown said with a grain of salt. I reckon your a junior or senior which means you arent far behind me, but it always seems a peers insight means more then a grumpy old man who doesnt know the first thing about living, right?
And to Ripley, not looking to start things, but look at my posts here. my grammar, spelling and mechanics are sh*t. anything school related or something I should be serious on, I use the best grammar spelling and mechanics I can muster. I hope Stealth is the same.
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Short and simple school is getting worse and worse. My school bans hugging, doing so will result in 2 days of out of school suspension. Yet I bring a pocket knife to school, swing it around at some boy who has tighter jeans then my sister and I don't even get the angry eye by the teachers.
In fact the only person in my school that isn't a student who makes sense, is my bloody language arts teacher. He's a retired army dude with tattoos all over his body and he's the only intelligent person around. Now I consider that just sad. Every other adult either was lonely as a child or ate paint chips as a kid, and grew up with the mindset that if you loose your V-Card before age 18 your worthless.
I hate school, the only nice thing is that "nice" girls go their to make me feel happy.(very happy)
School bans friendship-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gFP_kprL6I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gFP_kprL6I)
Now what do you think?(this is your time to make jokes about me since this is a school topic, they better be funny)
You Brought a Knife to school? Are you crazy?
And you're complaining you can't hug?
Dude, leave the knife at home (better yet, thow it the heck out until you understand why thats a stupid, stupid idea)
And hug all the chicks you want, just either not in school or dont get caught ;)
That being said I agree banning pda in schools is silly, but so is bringing a weapon to school post columbine era. (which was when I was in school) That stuff can get you in serious trouble.
Edit: Content was a bit harsh.
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you guys wouldn't believe me if I told ya some of the stuff I did in school.
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you guys wouldn't believe me if I told ya some of the stuff I did in school.
oh yeah I would :devil
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you guys wouldn't believe me if I told ya some of the stuff I did in school.
so enlighten me in a PM... need ideas for Senior prank :devil
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so enlighten me in a PM... need ideas for Senior prank :devil
My older brother's class, or at least a few of them, wrote their graduation year 1980, in 20 feet letters with gasoline on the football field. Then of course they lit it, so the numbers were scorched into the football field for the graduation ceremony (which happens on the football field). To this day, if you ask my brother if he was in on it, he just smiles and asks, "Does that sound like something I would do?"
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so enlighten me in a PM... need ideas for Senior prank :devil
To pull off the prank we did our senior year you'd need access to a crane. :rock
A classmate of mine was the son of a guy who own a excavation company. We took a boulder about 4' tall by about 10' across and set it in front of the school doors. Next morning no one could get in the front doors. I still laugh when I think about how that kids dad came up there and kicked his son's arse all the way across the school parking lot. Turned out his dad had to pull the crane from a state job he was about to start that day, in order to go more this big arse rock. He wasn't a happy camper. :uhoh
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To pull off the prank we did our senior year you'd need access to a crane. :rock
say it aint so, but I may be able to get my hands on one :rock
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My older brother's class, or at least a few of them, wrote their graduation year 1980, in 20 feet letters with gasoline on the football field. Then of course they lit it, so the numbers were scorched into the football field for the graduation ceremony (which happens on the football field). To this day, if you ask my brother if he was in on it, he just smiles and asks, "Does that sound like something I would do?"
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one of the super nerds at my school found this recipe that grows moss with a few ingredients. shes wants to paint it on the side of the school early in april so that we will have it when we leave in may.
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oh yeah I would :devil
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so enlighten me in a PM... need ideas for Senior prank :devil
nothing I did would be considered a prank, bringing a knife was a daily thing, fighting, being just an overall salamander, to the students, the teachers,
I had a "boom box" I would sit in the back of the class and play music, the teacher would tell me to turn it off, I just turned it up louder, one class I punched the chalk board and shattered it....getting laid on the school grounds....basically spreading hate and anger,...ya I was a messed up kid, I was also the only one in school that was going while in YDC (juvie detention) halfway house.
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you guys wouldn't believe me if I told ya some of the stuff I did in school.
LOL, no joke... My school's policy was basically, "Don't get her pregnant in the hallways. The parking lot's still ok though". :rofl
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I had a drama teacher that got polio as a kid and was in a electric wheelchair. When he'd turn his back on us, we'd get on our hands and knees and hide from him. You could hear the chair coming and we would crawl to the other side of the room to stay out of sight. He absolutely hated me and my buddies. :rofl sit down clowns!!!! he'd always say to us :rofl :rofl
We go up to ask a stupid question just to lock one of his brakes. He's take off real fast and do a tight half circle :lol
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I had a drama teacher that got polio as a kid and was in a electric wheelchair. When he'd turn his back on us, we'd get on our hands and knees and hide from him. You could hear the chair coming and we would crawl to the other side of the room to stay out of sight. He absolutely hated me and my buddies. :rofl sit down clowns!!!! he'd always say to us :rofl :rofl
We go up to ask a stupid question just to lock one of his brakes. He's take off real fast and do a tight half circle :lol
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I had a drama teacher that got polio as a kid and was in a electric wheelchair. When he'd turn his back on us, we'd get on our hands and knees and hide from him. You could hear the chair coming and we would crawl to the other side of the room to stay out of sight. He absolutely hated me and my buddies. :rofl sit down clowns!!!! he'd always say to us :rofl :rofl
We go up to ask a stupid question just to lock one of his brakes. He's take off real fast and do a tight half circle :lol
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:rofl :rofl
but you know whats sad.... I never really believed anyone when they told me this, but now I have 38 days left in my high school career and I am wishing I had done less stupid, more intelligence. less bullying and more love. This senior year for me has been more real world educational then book educational just because at my school senior year is your year, your make your schedule, you do as you please, but consequences are still swift and hard. you dont like? Heres the door, dont let it hit you on the way out. I remember back in 9th grade I was busted for selling weed. I made a joke of it then because it was "cool" to do. now looking back and being a certified EMT, I realize just how stupid it was. I look at my high school transcript, and kick myself in the bellybutton because I was denied the one school I wanted in to.
Stealth, I don't know what grade your in, but take what uptown said with a grain of salt. I reckon your a junior or senior which means you arent far behind me, but it always seems a peers insight means more then a grumpy old man who doesnt know the first thing about living, right?
And to Ripley, not looking to start things, but look at my posts here. my grammar, spelling and mechanics are sh*t. anything school related or something I should be serious on, I use the best grammar spelling and mechanics I can muster. I hope Stealth is the same.
Totally agree my senior year as well. Holy crap does time fly and everyone has been telling me that for the past entirety of my life. Whether they are squaddies, uncles, family friends, people a few years older than me. I have 50 days left of High School. I still don't believe it. I just block it out of my mind. I'll be the first to admit I've had it easy my whole life. But in 50 more days of school. No Longer. I'll be old enough. Whatever relatively insignificant point in time when I walk across the stage, take diploma, handshake. It's all gone. Time for the Real World.
I just refuse to believe that I am cut out for anything less then what I want. So I can't fail. Gotta keep moving.
Stealth take it from me as well. Even though all your life all you have known is hand holding and school it doesn't last forever. But don't listen to me or Mason or anybody else because what we are saying isn't real. LOL It can't be. Can't be understood not by you. At least I couldn't see it until here I am. 50 days and counting.
I had a drama teacher that got polio as a kid and was in a electric wheelchair. When he'd turn his back on us, we'd get on our hands and knees and hide from him. You could hear the chair coming and we would crawl to the other side of the room to stay out of sight. He absolutely hated me and my buddies. :rofl sit down clowns!!!! he'd always say to us :rofl :rofl
We go up to ask a stupid question just to lock one of his brakes. He's take off real fast and do a tight half circle :lol
You are a horrible person. :rofl
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Freshman year in Algebra class. My best friend Ken would stuff an entire sheet of paper in his mouth and get it good and slobbery. Giant spit ball basically. Then when Mr. Graves would be at the chalk board with his back to the class, Ken would throw it at the chalk board. Mr Graves of course would turn around pissed. Ken was a master at looking innocent. He sat a few desks behind this other kid who was generally disliked. Ken would make a very subtle gesture to indicate that this other kids was the guilty party. Mr Graves sent that poor kid to the office a half dozen times that semester. Kid never figured out why he always got singled out. To his credit, he never was a narc and ratted Ken out.
I was a pretty good kid in High School. National Honor Society, 7th in a class of 230, etc etc... All of the good stories involving me started when I went to college. Things like rapelling down the side of the dorm building in the middle of the night... Good times. :rofl
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I'll be the first to admit I've had it easy my whole life. But in 50 more days of school. No Longer. I'll be old enough. Whatever relatively insignificant point in time when I walk across the stage, take diploma, handshake. It's all gone. Time for the Real World.
Hehe... Well, take it from me... Go to college and you won't be in the real world yet. Just don't get too out of control. I know guys who should have been brilliant in college, but they washed out because they let the alcohol and parties take over and they forgot why they were in college.
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Hehe... Well, take it from me... Go to college and you won't be in the real world yet. Just don't get too out of control. I know guys who should have been brilliant in college, but they washed out because they let the alcohol and parties take over and they forgot why they were in college.
Oh I am well aware that College isn't the real world I have a lot more hand holding left in store for me. Cant wait. Was speaking generally.
But you know what is funny in a sick and twisted way? As I said before I wouldn't believe how fast time flies by etcetera... I can't believe that I would get involved in drinking and partying and toejam to a point that would effect me. Can not believe it. But hell up until a few months ago I didn't think High School would end. I hope I don't frack myself over.
I only know one thing for sure. I am 18 and I am motherfracking invincible.
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But you know what is funny in a sick and twisted way? As I said before I wouldn't believe how fast time flies by etcetera... I can't believe that I would get involved in drinking and partying and toejam to a point that would effect me. Can not believe it. But hell up until a few months ago I didn't think High School would end. I hope I don't frack myself over.
That first real taste of freedom is what you have to be careful of when you go to college. The trick is coming up with a good way to remind yourself of what your goals are and why you are at school. Something you'll see every day that reminds you of what you really want in life and that those four years of college are the stepping stones to get there.
It's the guys who forget that and give in to the moment that lose their way...
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8th grade, me and 5 buddies sitting in the back of the class on opposite sides. Our desks were always filled with trash and paper. Our teacher was so spaced out and had zero clue. Everytime she turned to the board, half the class would throw crap at each other. I threw paper, paper airplanes, pencils, books, a handball we found in a desk, food kids would bring in, and a half eaten pop tart.
Eventually, the inevitable happened. I threw the half eat pop tart at a buddy across the room, he karate chops it midair, the pop tart flies across the room and smack the teacher in the back of the head. :devil
Parents were called, detentions was given, laughter was had, and one of the best middle school memories.
I got too much high school stories to tell but I was a good kid. Arista, scholars, B- and A. 85-95 mostly. Math and Chemistry/Physics tore my grade books apart while art, English and history kept it in place.
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Senior Year of High School with about a week to go until graduation I flushed 2 cherry bombs with waterproof wicks in 2 urinals. To make it funnier, someone was dropping a deuce in the far stall. The urinals came off of the wall and water was everywhere.
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Senior Year of High School with about a week to go until graduation I flushed 2 cherry bombs with waterproof wicks in 2 urinals. To make it funnier, someone was dropping a deuce in the far stall. The urinals came off of the wall and water was everywhere.
Ah M80s, how I miss you.
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Yea it does, but you gotta do it. I think it really is stupid but the only way its gonna change is if people, and more importantly parents step in. Ohh yea, the knife, you shoulda finished that skater kid, I wear my regular fit jeans and a belt holds 'em a decent way up on my waste and I'm proud of it.
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Short and simple school is getting worse and worse. My school bans hugging, doing so will result in 2 days of out of school suspension. Yet I bring a pocket knife to school, swing it around at some boy who has tighter jeans then my sister and I don't even get the angry eye by the teachers.
In fact the only person in my school that isn't a student who makes sense, is my bloody language arts teacher. He's a retired army dude with tattoos all over his body and he's the only intelligent person around. Now I consider that just sad. Every other adult either was lonely as a child or ate paint chips as a kid, and grew up with the mindset that if you loose your V-Card before age 18 your worthless.
I hate school, the only nice thing is that "nice" girls go their to make me feel happy.(very happy)
School bans friendship-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gFP_kprL6I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gFP_kprL6I)
Now what do you think?(this is your time to make jokes about me since this is a school topic, they better be funny)
Lose the knife, they're handy when you're outside in the middle of nowhere or when you need to open a box or a DVD case. But, if you're in school and you're in any situation that your mouth or your feet can't get you out of you need to re-evaluate your priorities.
PDA is neat and all and lots of fun but you really should be in school to learn. If you aren't learning from your teachers, get used to it. That crap doesn't change in college at all. Read books, lots of them. Do math problems for fun, get into the higher and harder sciences and learn their basics now, even if you have to teach yourself. Work and perfect your english and grammar skills, they'll net you more profit than kissing the pretty girl ever will. Don't just read history, be passionate about it, and understand it. Your history books don't even cover 1/10th of the story they gloss over.
Love your library, and not the computers the nerds use to watch porn while bypassing the laughable security schools put on them, get into the books.
I say this not to turn you into a nerd or anti-social geek. Academics are important, being able to teach yourself is very important. But most important of all is getting a damn good GPA and keeping it now, so that when you do go to college you get a lovely fat scholarship, a head-start where everyone else is flailing, and you don't start out your life 40,000 dollars in debt with a worthless degree.
If I could do the last decade over.... so many things I would have done different.
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As a side note to the knife thing, knee to groin, foot to knee should be about all you need to stop that kind of argument.
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As a side note to the knife thing, knee to groin, foot to knee should be about all you need to stop that kind of argument.
and then get arrested for assault. :aok
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He had jeans tighter then rope that choked me yesterday. Now he's disgraceful against all men.
Yeah, I hate that too.
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I was usually in the advanced classes so nobody really messed with the teachers, since they actually taught us stuff and messing with them in any destructive manner would earn us a transfer into the classes with the dumb disruptive idiot kids. Fate worse than death. I played the game pretty straight, although me and my classmates came up with some creative pranks. Nothing too dangerous and nothing destructive, but some were pretty funny and we tried to make sure the teacher would give us props for creativity even if they had to help us clean up the mess.
My reward for suppressing the urge to throw food in class like a moron was going to one of the most selective colleges in the nation where I got paid to do some really cool things like fly airplanes and shoot guns, becoming a fighter pilot, flying the F-15E for 5 years and getting to fly hot military trainers for another 11 yrs. Lots of other cool things over the last 22 years, and the cash salary is decent too. And it only cost me 6 years of paying attention in class, not turning myself into a retard by doing drugs, and not being disrespectful to my classmates or teachers. Pretty good payoff I think, and it's an outcome that is achieveable by a whole lot of people who choose to act the fool instead, losing out on a lifetime of coolness.
And yea we even listened to the one or two teachers who were clueless, because they knew what was on the test. So as a class we came up with enough innocent questions to pretty much dig the test contents out of them without actually cheating. That was more fun than a food fight and detention, with the added bonus that we could make jokes about the stupids in the slow class who thought throwing trash in class was fun. Monkeys and mental midgets think throwing poo is fun... I decided I wasn't going to be a monkey pretty early on and haven't had any opportunity to regret that decision.
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And BTW, school doesn't "suck"... Wasting your time in school sucks, and that's a choice the student makes not the fault of the school or teachers. School is a means to an end, nothing more. You gotta USE the school since you're going to be stuck there anyhow, and you might as well get something out of it. If you're happy living a mediocre life doing stuff that anyone can do, then yea be like everyone else and act like an idiot in school instead of spending every second while you're imprisoned in school trying to pry more knowledge out of those brainless teachers. Let the monkeys have their fun throwing food, while you learn something other than how much weed you can smoke and still remember what room your class is in.
You can spend a bit of effort getting *something* useful out of the time you spend there, or as the commerical says, you can do the other thing. Like all the other idiots who can't spell and live their life trying to come up with reasons why they don't need an education, talking big about why educated people are somehow missing out on the good things in life, hoping you can pay the rent because you have no idea what happened to your paycheck, and wondering why the geeky kid ended up rich with a hot wife (who is a doctor) and 2500 hrs of fast jet, turbine, and combat time before he was 40.
You WILL sleep in the bed you make, no question about it. Are you happy with the prospect of working harder than I do for half the payoff, just because it's cool to throw pop tarts in class and justify an active attempt to learn nothing by saying the teacher is clueless and your failure to learn *something* is the fault of the school? 6 years. 6 years of effort for a lifetime of payoff.
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eagl you ever make $500+ an hour?
$32,000 in 12 weeks?
just wondering.....you know with your insults and all, I figure you must be this oh so great person who thinks he is better then anyone else, and puts much stock in how much one "makes"...... :rolleyes:
I made $250 in about 35 minutes of tattooing.....so that must make me a better person and worthy right :rofl
you want to give advice, its a good idea not to sound like a complete dick when you do it.
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eagl you ever make $500+ an hour?
$32,000 in 12 weeks?
just wondering.....you know with your insults and all, I figure you must be this oh so great person who thinks he is better then anyone else, and puts much stock in how much one "makes"...... :rolleyes:
I made $250 in about 35 minutes of tattooing.....so that must make me a better person and worthy right :rofl
you want to give advice, its a good idea not to sound like a complete dick when you do it.
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I grossed $30k, netted about $22k in 12 days once shooting action shots at a Cal Ripken 12year Old Boys Baseball World Series in Aberdeen one summer a few years ago. Wish I could get that contract every year.
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umm So you were wanting to hug a guy in tight jeans and were not allowed even though you threatened him with a knife.
At your age.... believe me..... the folks you think are stupid is just not so. When you mature and gain in intellegence you'll understand that most of them were right.
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I grossed $30k, netted about $22k in 12 days once shooting action shots at a Cal Ripken 12year Old Boys Baseball World Series in Aberdeen one summer a few years ago.
thats cuz you are one of the cool kids :neener:
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thats cuz you are one of the cool kids :neener:
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eagl you ever make $500+ an hour?
$32,000 in 12 weeks?
just wondering.....you know with your insults and all, I figure you must be this oh so great person who thinks he is better then anyone else, and puts much stock in how much one "makes"...... :rolleyes:
I made $250 in about 35 minutes of tattooing.....so that must make me a better person and worthy right :rofl
you want to give advice, its a good idea not to sound like a complete dick when you do it.
Yea, I've made more than that. A lot more. Some of my peers (not military) make enough more that the numbers you mention are little more than weekend mad money.
If you feel insulted when I state the obvious, if you feel insulted when reality is presented to you, if the shoe fits...
And if the shoe doesn't fit, if you are that one guy who figured out how to become a 1%-er in a niche industry after throwing away a free education, then congratulations. As a course of action for a young person however, it's pretty obviously a low-probability outcome and only a total fool would recommend deliberately acting like a fool in school on the hopes that they'll be that one guy who can make it big without the benefit of the free education offered them.
But seriously... Are you REALLY insulted by me pointing out that acting like a fool for the 6 years a young adult is trapped in public school is a reasonable thing to do because you are the one guy who didn't get badly burned by that? If so, you're the guy deceiving yourself coming up with excuses for bad decisions.
Imagine this - take your skills and talent, and back them up with an MBA from any decent university. You could quintuple your take-home income overnight while working fewer hours (or spending more time doing the part of your job you love and hiring some new guy to do the stuff you don't enjoy). It isn't hard, it just takes the courage to gut it out prying information out of those stupid teachers to make something good out of an unpleasant period of time.
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I'm not tall enough for the MBA or I'd sign up in a heartbeat!
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I was usually in the advanced classes so nobody really messed with the teachers, since they actually taught us stuff and messing with them in any destructive manner would earn us a transfer into the classes with the dumb disruptive idiot kids. Fate worse than death. I played the game pretty straight, although me and my classmates came up with some creative pranks. Nothing too dangerous and nothing destructive, but some were pretty funny and we tried to make sure the teacher would give us props for creativity even if they had to help us clean up the mess.
My reward for suppressing the urge to throw food in class like a moron was going to one of the most selective colleges in the nation where I got paid to do some really cool things like fly airplanes and shoot guns, becoming a fighter pilot, flying the F-15E for 5 years and getting to fly hot military trainers for another 11 yrs. Lots of other cool things over the last 22 years, and the cash salary is decent too. And it only cost me 6 years of paying attention in class, not turning myself into a retard by doing drugs, and not being disrespectful to my classmates or teachers. Pretty good payoff I think, and it's an outcome that is achieveable by a whole lot of people who choose to act the fool instead, losing out on a lifetime of coolness.
And yea we even listened to the one or two teachers who were clueless, because they knew what was on the test. So as a class we came up with enough innocent questions to pretty much dig the test contents out of them without actually cheating. That was more fun than a food fight and detention, with the added bonus that we could make jokes about the stupids in the slow class who thought throwing trash in class was fun. Monkeys and mental midgets think throwing poo is fun... I decided I wasn't going to be a monkey pretty early on and haven't had any opportunity to regret that decision.
And BTW, school doesn't "suck"... Wasting your time in school sucks, and that's a choice the student makes not the fault of the school or teachers. School is a means to an end, nothing more. You gotta USE the school since you're going to be stuck there anyhow, and you might as well get something out of it. If you're happy living a mediocre life doing stuff that anyone can do, then yea be like everyone else and act like an idiot in school instead of spending every second while you're imprisoned in school trying to pry more knowledge out of those brainless teachers. Let the monkeys have their fun throwing food, while you learn something other than how much weed you can smoke and still remember what room your class is in.
You can spend a bit of effort getting *something* useful out of the time you spend there, or as the commerical says, you can do the other thing. Like all the other idiots who can't spell and live their life trying to come up with reasons why they don't need an education, talking big about why educated people are somehow missing out on the good things in life, hoping you can pay the rent because you have no idea what happened to your paycheck, and wondering why the geeky kid ended up rich with a hot wife (who is a doctor) and 2500 hrs of fast jet, turbine, and combat time before he was 40.
You WILL sleep in the bed you make, no question about it. Are you happy with the prospect of working harder than I do for half the payoff, just because it's cool to throw pop tarts in class and justify an active attempt to learn nothing by saying the teacher is clueless and your failure to learn *something* is the fault of the school? 6 years. 6 years of effort for a lifetime of payoff.
That is the truth. Or at least the path that seems to be the most logical and without risk.
One thing I noticed early on as well is even if the teachers are clueless. They stand between where I am and what I can become. It doesn't matter if they don't know what they are talking about or don't care about teaching. Sometimes you just have to sit there and smile and do the BS work. Just to get the meaningless "A" in the class even if you learn nothing. Unfortunately the politics of the system require that. It doesn't test for knowledge it tests for grades. Sometimes they are equivalent. Sometimes they aren't.
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Yea, I've made more than that. A lot more. Some of my peers (not military) make enough more that the numbers you mention are little more than weekend mad money.
If you feel insulted when I state the obvious, if you feel insulted when reality is presented to you, if the shoe fits...
And if the shoe doesn't fit, if you are that one guy who figured out how to become a 1%-er in a niche industry after throwing away a free education, then congratulations. As a course of action for a young person however, it's pretty obviously a low-probability outcome and only a total fool would recommend deliberately acting like a fool in school on the hopes that they'll be that one guy who can make it big without the benefit of the free education offered them.
But seriously... Are you REALLY insulted by me pointing out that acting like a fool for the 6 years a young adult is trapped in public school is a reasonable thing to do because you are the one guy who didn't get badly burned by that? If so, you're the guy deceiving yourself coming up with excuses for bad decisions.
Imagine this - take your skills and talent, and back them up with an MBA from any decent university. You could quintuple your take-home income overnight while working fewer hours (or spending more time doing the part of your job you love and hiring some new guy to do the stuff you don't enjoy). It isn't hard, it just takes the courage to gut it out prying information out of those stupid teachers to make something good out of an unpleasant period of time.
its not that I didn't agree with you, I push my kids to get an education...very much so...it was your presentation that sucked...
I have never and would never encourage someone to act the way I did, most often there are reasons behind someone actions,
I got straight F's in school..(not because I could not do the work)....yet all my kids are basically A=B students, except one who does not apply herself.
and that kind of money for someone like me is a whole lot. considering my dad as a carpenter made about 45 a year, I've made that in 3 months.
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although thinking about it, it is only because of how I can draw that allowed me to even make that....
and I can only draw the way I do because of all the jail time....
one reason why I believe in fate, and that things happen for a reason.
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That is the truth. Or the truth that seems to be the most logical and without risk.
One thing I noticed early on as well is even if the teachers are clueless. They stand between where I am and what I can become. It doesn't matter if they don't know what they are talking about or don't care about teaching. Sometimes you just have to sit there and smile and do the BS work. Just to get the meaningless "A" in the class even if you learn nothing. Unfortunately the politics of the system require that. It doesn't test for knowledge it tests for grades. Sometimes they are equivalent. Sometimes they aren't.
That's an important lesson... Play the game for a while and realize that while school is "your life" while you're there, it will end eventually and it is just a means to an end. The high Pk shot is to learn what you can, and do whatever is necessary to get good enough grades that you aren't forever blocked from doing whatever you want to do once you are permitted to make decisions on what to do with your life.
Way too many kids complete high school and all of a sudden realize that while nobody is telling them what to do anymore, they are faced with a bunch of people who are now telling them that they can't do certain things because of one reason or another. There are plenty of reasons why people can't do something, but bad grades in high school is just giving people an excuse to keep you down and out. Don't give them that excuse to exclude you, don't let that door close because it was fun messing around with the handicapped teacher. 6 years is a long time to be trapped in school but the NEXT 70-80 years is an even longer time to be told you don't qualify for something or aren't eligible for a good deal, because you acted the fool in school.
That's where the percentages are, and it's a game. It's a means to an end. Do whatever it takes to get the grades to qualify you to do whatever it is you want to do. If you don't know what you want to do yet, then ensure you don't accidentally make yourself ineligible for whatever it is you decide to do later on. That goes for grades, drugs, or whatever other crimes are cool at the time (at my HS it was stealing car stereos). Some of that stuff simply makes you ineligible to do things. If a HS student is ok with people telling them NO for the rest of their life, then ok great, we need people pushing brooms too and that's just fine for a lot of people. Just don't get trapped into being a broom pusher for 50 years because it was fun to tease the teacher for a couple of years.
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its not that I didn't agree with you, I push my kids to get an education...very much so...it was your presentation that sucked...
I wrote it that way on purpose to get the attention of the OP... The thread was going the way of "hey I had fun being a dumba*^ in school and look how well I turned out". Well, not really. For every one person in these forums who had a good outcome from wasting their free education, there are about 5000 broom pushers who don't really understand what went wrong and who don't really know how to save their kids from the same fate.
I'm really glad you figured it out and saved your kids. Some guys in your situation wouldn't have learned squat from their experiences and kept going downhill without ever thinking about it.
It's easy. Just take the energy used to screw around in school and direct it towards playing the game for just a little while. Pry that information and the grades from the teacher no matter how dumb the teacher is, no matter how disruptive the class gets. Trade 6 years of school lockdown for 70 years of the good life, since those 6 years will be spent in school no matter what the student actually DOES while in there so they might as well get something out of it.
Yea I posted that way on purpose because the topic raised in the OP is kind of serious, and it gets "too late" pretty darn quickly. I came THIS CLOSE to being too late myself... I had zero focus my 10th grade year and got a 1.8 GPA. Oops. I got 3.8 - 4.0 in 11th and 12th grades while taking AP and college level courses, and scored in the top .5% in all the placement exams, lettered in 2 sports, and it was still amost all ruined by my 10th grade year. I had to go to a community college for a full year to prove that I could handle college level courses, and even then it was almost too little too late. I almost threw away every dream I ever had for my whole life, over one bad year in school, and I wasn't even a screwup. It kills me to see people get anywhere close to the consequences I faced, especially if they make them deliberately. I just didn't know how to study and had no motivation, even though I wasn't disruptive or a class clown. I had to relearn and change everything I did in school to turn that around, and I made the decision myself, because nobody told me the truth about school. That it is just a means to an end and an opportunity to ruthlessly exploit, nothing more.
Sorry if I insulted you. The tone of the discussion really got to me because behind all the bravado I saw a lifetime of regret in the first dozen posts.
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Every year on senior day everyone plays freeze tag in the hallways which results in no one going to class and standing around like a retard in the hallway lol.
My senior year we are gonna change it up and do ultimate frisbee between classes. :devil
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I wrote it that way on purpose to get the attention of the OP... The thread was going the way of "hey I had fun being a dumba*^ in school and look how well I turned out". Well, not really. For every one person in these forums who had a good outcome from wasting their free education, there are about 5000 broom pushers who don't really understand what went wrong and who don't really know how to save their kids from the same fate.
I'm really glad you figured it out and saved your kids. Some guys in your situation wouldn't have learned squat from their experiences and kept going downhill without ever thinking about it.
It's easy. Just take the energy used to screw around in school and direct it towards playing the game for just a little while. Pry that information and the grades from the teacher no matter how dumb the teacher is, no matter how disruptive the class gets. Trade 6 years of school lockdown for 70 years of the good life, since those 6 years will be spent in school no matter what the student actually DOES while in there so they might as well get something out of it.
Yea I posted that way on purpose because the topic raised in the OP is kind of serious, and it gets "too late" pretty darn quickly. I came THIS CLOSE to being too late myself... I had zero focus my 10th grade year and got a 1.8 GPA. Oops. I got 3.8 - 4.0 in 11th and 12th grades while taking AP and college level courses, and scored in the top .5% in all the placement exams, lettered in 2 sports, and it was still amost all ruined by my 10th grade year. I had to go to a community college for a full year to prove that I could handle college level courses, and even then it was almost too little too late. I almost threw away every dream I ever had for my whole life, over one bad year in school, and I wasn't even a screwup. It kills me to see people get anywhere close to the consequences I faced, especially if they make them deliberately. I just didn't know how to study and had no motivation, even though I wasn't disruptive or a class clown. I had to relearn and change everything I did in school to turn that around, and I made the decision myself, because nobody told me the truth about school. That it is just a means to an end and an opportunity to ruthlessly exploit, nothing more.
Sorry if I insulted you. The tone of the discussion really got to me because behind all the bravado I saw a lifetime of regret in the first dozen posts.
I understand....I left tattooing the public, because of the fad thing,(among other reasons) you get an 18 year old come in and want a tattoo on his neck, no way would I do that, I have turned away thousands of dollars specifically over that reason, or on their hands...
whats even worse is at least you can always get an education,(except in my case :bhead I never signed for draft so cant ever get financial aid) its never too late to start, that stupid arse tattoo on the neck is not going anywhere.
I should not have been insulted what you said was true.
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"quantity over quality"
I love school, yea It may be hard to bilieve I'm actually one of the more popular kids at school, but I am lol and I couldn't ever imagine being anything not other then what I am.
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I should not have been insulted what you said was true.
Well, you are right, even the truth can be presented in an insulting or degrading way. I wasn't trying to target anyone, just blabbing because it is a touchy subject for me, and I get obnoxiously pedantic sometimes. I hope I didn't get your blood pressure up too high :)
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Short and simple school is getting worse and worse. My school bans hugging, doing so will result in 2 days of out of school suspension. Yet I bring a pocket knife to school, swing it around at some boy who has tighter jeans then my sister and I don't even get the angry eye by the teachers.
In fact the only person in my school that isn't a student who makes sense, is my bloody language arts teacher. He's a retired army dude with tattoos all over his body and he's the only intelligent person around. Now I consider that just sad. Every other adult either was lonely as a child or ate paint chips as a kid, and grew up with the mindset that if you loose your V-Card before age 18 your worthless.
I hate school, the only nice thing is that "nice" girls go their to make me feel happy.(very happy)
School bans friendship-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gFP_kprL6I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gFP_kprL6I)
Now what do you think?(this is your time to make jokes about me since this is a school topic, they better be funny)
Quit whining until you have achieved something in life. Life is harder than school, you will look back on it and will realize how good you had it.
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Quit whining until you have achieved something in life. Life is harder than school, you will look back on it and will realize how good you had it.
Sheesh, why couldn't you have posted that BEFORE I went nuclear? :mad: :bhead
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That's an important lesson... Play the game for a while and realize that while school is "your life" while you're there, it will end eventually and it is just a means to an end. The high Pk shot is to learn what you can, and do whatever is necessary to get good enough grades that you aren't forever blocked from doing whatever you want to do once you are permitted to make decisions on what to do with your life.
Way too many kids complete high school and all of a sudden realize that while nobody is telling them what to do anymore, they are faced with a bunch of people who are now telling them that they can't do certain things because of one reason or another. There are plenty of reasons why people can't do something, but bad grades in high school is just giving people an excuse to keep you down and out. Don't give them that excuse to exclude you, don't let that door close because it was fun messing around with the handicapped teacher. 6 years is a long time to be trapped in school but the NEXT 70-80 years is an even longer time to be told you don't qualify for something or aren't eligible for a good deal, because you acted the fool in school.
That's where the percentages are, and it's a game. It's a means to an end. Do whatever it takes to get the grades to qualify you to do whatever it is you want to do. If you don't know what you want to do yet, then ensure you don't accidentally make yourself ineligible for whatever it is you decide to do later on. That goes for grades, drugs, or whatever other crimes are cool at the time (at my HS it was stealing car stereos). Some of that stuff simply makes you ineligible to do things. If a HS student is ok with people telling them NO for the rest of their life, then ok great, we need people pushing brooms too and that's just fine for a lot of people. Just don't get trapped into being a broom pusher for 50 years because it was fun to tease the teacher for a couple of years.
That's why I figure the easiest way to start out life is to go to an Engineering school. It is always easy to take a step down. So might as well start at the top. If it isn't for me whatever that's fine. But at least I'll know and have zero regrets.
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Eagl, not trying to jump your bones. I very much agree with what you say, however how many seniors fresh out of school have 2 jobs while d1cking off in school? one paying 12 an hour under the table cash money, the other saving peoples lives in the streets of a city? not many. Granted, I only got my EMT certification because the fire department I volunteer on paid the $800 for it, but that isnt the point. the point is some people are made for school, others no so much. Ink happens to be one of them from what I've read about his life on the forums here. School isnt my strong point, and I will never be making 80,000 a year, but even if I onmly rake in 30-40,000 I will be happy so long as I have a roof over mine and my families head, and food on the table. the rest is nothing to me.
to the OP, thats one other thing I've seen throughout the years. I grew up and still live in a VERY Blue collar, economy dependent area, tis past decade while our economy has been in the toilet, I have had no choice but to learn the value of a dollar, pay my way for things. yes, I have had biorthday money and christmas given to me, but in repairs alone I spent $12,000 on my first car. $4,000 on the car itself. A lot of money to spend in a year and a half of your license with no job, but I managed through not spending money o9n stupid things every time I turned around. Yes, I spoiled myself (~$3,000 in my computer), and I kick myself in the bellybutton for some of my spending (such as mu computer), but I cant change the past. be money wise, dont be buying your girlfriend a dinner every other night.
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Well, you are right, even the truth can be presented in an insulting or degrading way. I wasn't trying to target anyone, just blabbing because it is a touchy subject for me, and I get obnoxiously pedantic sometimes. I hope I didn't get your blood pressure up too high :)
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no not at all...I also have that "too blunt" issue, but I am workin on it.
I should have read past the "words" and saw the message.
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God how I wish I had two more years to make up for my freshman and sophomore years in high school...
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I had one class where 10% of the class was based on how many word search puzzles I could fill out. Talk about busy work... I aced all the real work in that class and since I was an athlete, at swim meets my Mom and I would see who could complete the most puzzles between events. The system was stupid so I beat the system, no unwinnable kobyashi maru scenario for me thankyouverymuch for showing me that lesson James T. Kirk. I learned every single thing that teacher had to teach me, including the lesson about busywork she didn't intend to teach me. That lesson was that some people, after you learn everything they have to offer, are nothing but obstacles to overcome by any (legal) means necessary.
The sad thing is that some fairly bright but disadvantaged students in that class took their B and thought it was great that they got a B. It makes me a bit sad thinking about it 25 years later.
I think one class I didn't really appreciate until later was typing... I spent half a semester banging away on a massive old manual typewriter, copying random bits of poetry and stories over and over and over. Only the top 15 students got to switch to the high end IBM selectric electric typewriters for the last couple of months, so of course I had to work hard to get that. Then it was copying mind-numbing random pages while following exacting directions, like "type this page, then go back and change the third word using the typewriter's correction ribbon." After ending the page, it was "erase the 10th word in the 3rd paragraph using manual correction fluid or correction tape, re-load the page, and re-type the word in ALL CAPS".
A semester of that crazy boring repetition probably cut hundreds of hours off of my proofreading time later during college, but at the time it just seemed stupidly boring. But I had to get that A out of the teacher somehow, so I stuck with it and was pleasantly surprised at how much benefit in life I got from that one class.
It was also an interesting exercise in mental flexibility. In 11th grade I'd start the day in trigonometry class using logic proofs to describe why a 3-4-5 ratio triangle ALWAYS has one 90 deg angle, spend an hour banging away at the typewriter, jump straight into a college level physics class (calculus based relativity was covered in the first month), then off to woodshop to build my Mom a jewelry box and hope none of the other kids managed to trick me into losing any fingers, then off to analytical programming in FORTRAN, then spend 35 min on the bus so I could swim on another school's swim and water polo team but only after 45 minutes in a public speaking class that also turned out to be one of those classes I hated but still benefit from.
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I don't know about others, but the farther along I've gone in school, the more I've liked it. I guess it's just a personality trait of mine that I love learning, but I'm excited every day I go to class. I truly enjoy the atmosphere and teachers of my school as well so that makes the experience all the better, and I feel that my grades have reflected that excitement. I'm even more pumped about going to college and delving even deeper into my chosen subjects, although at this point I'm not exactly sure which they will be.
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Agreed, not worth it.
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I was all set to graduate in October of my Sr. Year.
Then Herr Galbraith, mein Deutsch Lehrer said that if I wanted to go on the non school trip to Austria and Germany I had to stick it out and finish German 5 and 6.
Looking back I guess it wasn't not worth it.
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Keep in mind that most of us when we were school age, didn't see the point as we were clearly brighter then all the adults out there. That being said, those of us who then got older, figured out maybe there was a point to it after all.
My daughter just got her first teaching job. She was the AP student, worked her tail off, went to a great school, decided she wanted to teach and got the job. She's got 4 of those guys who could care less, have it all figured out in her class who spend most of their time disrupting her and the other kids and demanding all her time. the 20+ other kids who want to make it work and learn end up getting short changed by the screw offs.
Keep it in mind.
If you are smart enough to know better then the teachers, then you'll figure out that the better you do, the more doors are open to you when your school days are finished. Some times you have to 'play the game' so that you can play better games later.
Take it from someone who has never ever been as smart as I was when I was in high school. The older I get, the less I seem to know too! :)
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Looking back I guess it wasn't not worth it.
So it was worth it then?
Do you have Amish relatives? The Amish are notorius for speaking in double negatives like that.
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I suppose it was worth it, my german teacher was just fanatical when it came to everything. At one point he was giving us up to 50 new words to learn overnight and be tested on the following day.
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Keep in mind that most of us when we were school age, didn't see the point as we were clearly brighter then all the adults out there. That being said, those of us who then got older, figured out maybe there was a point to it after all.
My daughter just got her first teaching job. She was the AP student, worked her tail off, went to a great school, decided she wanted to teach and got the job. She's got 4 of those guys who could care less, have it all figured out in her class who spend most of their time disrupting her and the other kids and demanding all her time. the 20+ other kids who want to make it work and learn end up getting short changed by the screw offs.
Keep it in mind.
If you are smart enough to know better then the teachers, then you'll figure out that the better you do, the more doors are open to you when your school days are finished. Some times you have to 'play the game' so that you can play better games later.
Take it from someone who has never ever been as smart as I was when I was in high school. The older I get, the less I seem to know too! :)
I think the older you get the more this pie chart becomes true.
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