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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Dover on April 05, 2012, 11:05:03 AM
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you should be able to run a glider with either a tank or troops or a couple jeeps in them behind a c47
this was done often in war and could be a good tactic
being able to fly into a area with 5 or 6 c47's a few with tanks in them to drop town and one with a m3 or jeeps you drop the glider let it land the guys drive out and start working
be great for bases with out v spawns too
the other option would be make the trains usefull and make it so you can laod up guys on that for a mission and drop you off anywhere along its track
could also make a new strat of taking out the rail ways that lead to your base
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Hmm... A group of people puts out that they will be upping C-47's with gliders loaded with jeeps + troops/supplies. The person that joins the C-47, is placed into the Glider, where they release the glider and land. After they stop on the ground, an option like "Deploy" appears where we would normally see "Load Supplies". The Glider despawns and in it's place, a jeep which the glider pilot drives appears. I kind of like this idea, but the coding required sounds like a nightmare. How would you score the glider sortie? Maybe gv or bomber? When the glider touches down then "deploy's" it's jeep, does that mean a successful landing for the glider (unless it lands next to an enemy at which point they get a proxy)?
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why is the glider a plane even make it more like the troop drops
and to make it harder thing to accomplish make it so you spawn a c47 and lets say it has one m8 in it or some other light tank or m3 or jeep this would be a load out option once in flight or on the run way someone joins your flight and they become that vehical you release the glider it lands auto style make it like droping a bomb where you pick a point to aim for it and it goes there
the c47 must still return to base but the person in the vehical upon the glider landing simply drives off
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No aircraft ever carried a tank in WWII.
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right out of history man
gliders were developed to land heavy equipment like anti-tank guns, anti-aircraft guns, small vehicles, such as jeeps, and also light tanks (e.g. the Tetrarch tank). This heavier equipment made otherwise lightly armed paratroop forces a much more capable force. The Soviets also experimented with ways to deliver light tanks by air, including the Antonov A-40, a gliding tank with detachable wings.
light tanks im not talking about droping a tiger into battle im talking m8's or m16's or m3's with cannons on them nothing with a ton of armor
this is just a idea to allow gv battles at bases with no gv spawns or isolated areas on maps that have bases
i don't see it getting used all that often but its a great option kinda like how often a pt boat gets used
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honestly the more i look into this having it pulled by a c47 may be the wrong idea but rather by a bomber like the b17 or b29's would be a little more accurate
this may even go along wit the one guy talking about resupply planes as the made a refueling version of gliders now not a whole resupply but if you run outa gas land and have a buddy drag you a glider with fuel so you can get back up and get back to base would be cool and a actaul use that was done
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Just sittin here waiting for dovers submarine wish :D
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Now how many gliders were ever towed by B-29s?
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right out of history man
gliders were developed to land heavy equipment like anti-tank guns, anti-aircraft guns, small vehicles, such as jeeps, and also light tanks (e.g. the Tetrarch tank). This heavier equipment made otherwise lightly armed paratroop forces a much more capable force. The Soviets also experimented with ways to deliver light tanks by air, including the Antonov A-40, a gliding tank with detachable wings.
light tanks im not talking about droping a tiger into battle im talking m8's or m16's or m3's with cannons on them nothing with a ton of armor
this is just a idea to allow gv battles at bases with no gv spawns or isolated areas on maps that have bases
i don't see it getting used all that often but its a great option kinda like how often a pt boat gets used
None of those are tanks.
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b 29's did tow the ones that carried smaller tanks and stuff they state larger bombers not exact styles the one style that is listed is towed by a Handley Page Halifax bomber
agian
four-engined bombers were used, most frequently the Handley Page Halifax
C-47s were usually used as tow aircraft. A few C-46 tugs were used during and after Operation Plunder.
and other things they could recognize to make it harder to use
tow Hamilcars without a drastically reduced fuel load, which in turn narrowed the range of the Hamilca
pretty much when they did this big troop drops anything that could transport troops or pull a glider was used
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None of those are tanks.
did you read the part that says light tanks i see it 6 times in there
light tanks are tanks
i think they are called tanks
so if its called a tank its a tank right
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Quoted sources and links would be nice, if any. :huh
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b 29's did tow the ones that carried smaller tanks and stuff
:rofl
did you read the part that says light tanks i see it 6 times in there
light tanks are tanks
i think they are called tanks
so if its called a tank its a tank right
Not one glider used in the war was able to tow a M-8 Greyhound or an M3. The only vehicle we have in game that was able to be glider towed is the jeep.
Pale imitation of Saint David.
ack-ack
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Quoted sources and links would be nice, if any. :huh
the resources are everywhere just google ww2 gliders its crazy how many web sites are about the stuff offical and non the research no this is so easy
but a few just quick sites other than wikipedia
http://www.exploringthenorth.com/gliders/history.html
http://www.notoriousnkp.org/
http://www.ww2-airborne.us/units/327/327.html <<<talks about the tanks
http://www.combatreform.org/gliders.htm <<<talk about and has a picture of gliders with tanks
http://www.pointvista.com/WW2GliderPilots/hamilcar.htm <<<talks about the tanks
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1749.html <<<talks about the tanks
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:rofl
Not one glider used in the war was able to tow a M-8 Greyhound or an M3. The only vehicle we have in game that was able to be glider towed is the jeep.
Pale imitation of Saint David.
ack-ack
your research sucks reference my last post before this one
at least attempt a good search before you post
beside my grandpa did take a tank into battle out of a glider
this is how i know it happened for sure he has pictures of him in the tank in the glider
oh and this
(http://www.combatreform.org/Image982.jpg)
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My grandfather was a WWII Glider Pilot. Killed after landing in Wesel during operation varsity. So, having glider, yup personally could be pretty interesting, especially if the actual tow could be simulated. Would make for some cool scenario stuff as well. My grandpas glider had a jeep with a anti tank weapon system on it when it landed. What system exactly, the missing air crew report did not specify. A jeep with a recoiless rifle could be fun......
For the record if you want to read the MACR I can file share it. Yes, this means I can prove my Gpa was aGpilot. Now, there are very few left so please tread lightly on claims.rebuttals, etc....
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how bout this jeep
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/1942Jeep.jpg)
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your research sucks reference my last post before this one
Your research isn't very good if you claim a B-29 towed a glider but then you're just a troll so I doubt any research was done by yourself.
ack-ack
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Your research isn't very good if you claim a B-29 towed a glider but then you're just a troll so I doubt any research was done by yourself.
ack-ack
yeah cause i just posted a small part of my research but it so much easier to personally attack someone and call them a troll than prove your right or admit your wrong
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I would like to see a picture of a B29 towing anything, frankly. Why anyone would recommend taking the cutiing edge of technology and relegating it to a menial role is staggering. Yes, pull thirty B29s off the line to become tugs instead of front line bombers.
Maybe at a strech there is a hypothetical plane to transport a zillion, yes one zillion troops via glider to Japan and the B29 is the only thing that can do it???? Getting into a deep end with that one.
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I would like to see a picture of a B29 towing anything, frankly. Why anyone would recommend taking the cutiing edge of technology and relegating it to a menial role is staggering. Yes, pull thirty B29s off the line to become tugs instead of front line bombers.
Maybe at a strech there is a hypothetical plane to transport a zillion, yes one zillion troops via glider to Japan and the B29 is the only thing that can do it???? Getting into a deep end with that one.
totaly agree man but they would use 4 engine bombers to do this cause they could release the glider then bomb the area around where the glider was giong to land to clear any thing around
not saying it was popular most of the time it was c47 or that other british bomber thats not in the game but when your doing market garden type missions you use anything you can to get troops on the ground
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I seem to glide home alot this month.
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totaly agree man but they would use 4 engine bombers to do this cause they could release the glider then bomb the area around where the glider was giong to land to clear any thing around
not saying it was popular most of the time it was c47 or that other british bomber thats not in the game but when your doing market garden type missions you use anything you can to get troops on the ground
Brother, I offer this simple advice.
The BBs like to think of itself as a home of fact, especially in the wishlist or aircraft and vehicle sections. If you want to ever out live these posts, stop immediately and consider whether or not your comments are accurate. You claim a B29 pulled a glider. Post a picture or primary source. It is that simple. If you do not, you undermine your wish, which is a glider. Personally I think they would add an interesting dynamic to the game. Particularly to fields that do not have vehicle spawns into them.
If you do not stick to just the facts and avoid what could have been (a la Luft' 46), you will be burned like the staypuff marshmallow man.
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Brother, I offer this simple advice.
The BBs like to think of itself as a home of fact, especially in the wishlist or aircraft and vehicle sections. If you want to ever out live these posts, stop immediately and consider whether or not your comments are accurate. You claim a B29 pulled a glider. Post a picture or primary source. It is that simple. If you do not, you undermine your wish, which is a glider. Personally I think they would add an interesting dynamic to the game. Particularly to fields that do not have vehicle spawns into them.
If you do not stick to just the facts and avoid what could have been (a la Luft' 46), you will be burned like the staypuff marshmallow man.
good point everyone is stuck on the b-29 thing
the fact is simple c-47's towed gliders all the time
they carried troops or jeeps or LIGHT tanks (like jeeps, M3 troop transport, or a M3 Stuart or a M8 greyhound or a M22 locust) vehicles under 8 tons
it could add a fun and interesting role to the game there are a ton of uses i can think of
the other part to this is you can't land these on a town or base still cause of the ack
its just a way of getting gv's to a base that has no gv spawn
and here is a great link for the national archive files relating to gliders
http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Gliders_WWII
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I would like to see the ability of a C47 to carry 10 troops, and then a glider with the ability to carry another 10. You take the hit in speed, but if you make it you get double the troops. If the glider gets a wing blown off, it takes the tow plane down with it unless the tow plane releases quickly. If the tow plane goes down the glider can release and glide to the town if its close. Each is worth a kill.
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Towing gliders is also quite difficult, and takes some skill from the pilot to not kill both of them.
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Also code is so there is only a certain amount of stress the tow rope can handle, and if that amount is exceeded the rope snaps. Just like IRL.
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actualy the ones they built later in war the CG-13 had the following specs
General characteristics
Crew: 2 pilots
Capacity: 30 or 42 troops (including flight crew)
Length: 54 ft 4 in (16.56 m)
Wingspan: 85 ft 8 in (26.11 m)
Height: 20 ft 3 in (6.17 m)
Wing area: 873 ft² (81.10 m²)
Empty weight: 8,700 lb (3,946 kg)
Loaded weight: 18,900 (8,572 kg)
Useful load: 10,200 lb (4,626 kg)
give a ability to carry slightly heavier
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I would like to see the ability of a C47 to carry 10 troops, and then a glider with the ability to carry another 10. You take the hit in speed, but if you make it you get double the troops. If the glider gets a wing blown off, it takes the tow plane down with it unless the tow plane releases quickly. If the tow plane goes down the glider can release and glide to the town if its close. Each is worth a kill.
ok let's try again, if you carry more than 10 troops and a c47 with 10 plus a glider with 10 makes it twenty. then the number of troops needed to capture the base would be raised to twenty. this has been discussed to death.
semp
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Hmm... A group of people puts out that they will be upping C-47's with gliders loaded with jeeps + troops/supplies. The person that joins the C-47, is placed into the Glider, where they release the glider and land. After they stop on the ground, an option like "Deploy" appears where we would normally see "Load Supplies". The Glider despawns and in it's place, a jeep which the glider pilot drives appears. I kind of like this idea, but the coding required sounds like a nightmare. How would you score the glider sortie? Maybe gv or bomber? When the glider touches down then "deploy's" it's jeep, does that mean a successful landing for the glider (unless it lands next to an enemy at which point they get a proxy)?
+1
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We dont need this. We have spawn points.
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We dont need this. We have spawn points.
really every base has spawn points wow when did they change that just yesterday i was attacking a base that had no vehical spawn points at all
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really every base has spawn points wow when did they change that just yesterday i was attacking a base that had no vehical spawn points at all
When did anyone say 'every' base has spawn points?