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Title: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Slade on April 27, 2012, 07:52:58 AM
Guys,

Other than the visibility, what do you see as the major differences in ACM between the F4U-1 and the F4U-1a?


Thanks,

Slade  :salute
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: dirtdart on April 27, 2012, 02:14:46 PM
-1 Seems to float much better.  It is a great one to earn perks and surprise spit and ki/zeke/nik pilots as well. 
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: shiv on April 27, 2012, 08:25:59 PM
Anecdotally, it seems the 1A is slightly faster than the -1. but the -1 does seem to scissor a shade better. But 1A has better acceleration for sure, not that that's saying much when we're talking about Corsairs. Except for the -4 that is.

Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: SIK1 on April 27, 2012, 09:25:57 PM
The 1A is faster, accelerates better, and climbs better than the birdcage.

The birdcage is just a sexier bird.
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Butcher on April 27, 2012, 10:47:16 PM
Flew the bird cage in a scenario a while back, against the Ki-61 and A6m3 and I wished we had the 1a, seems like a totally different aircraft, in terms of performance.

For some odd reason I find the 1D the most stable platform of all the corsairs besides dash 4.
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Ruah on April 28, 2012, 08:04:10 AM
you are not alone in that, a lot of people (and good pilots) find the D preferable stating stability and a more gentl stall as thir reasons.  I think it is similar to the G2 and G6 109 relationship, but with less difference in performance.
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Reschke on April 28, 2012, 07:40:09 PM
I prefer the -1A to all of them aside from the -4. I only use the -1D when I need to put ords on a target but would rather dogfight in the -1A.
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: curry1 on May 02, 2012, 12:36:18 PM
I prefer the -1A to all of them aside from the -4. I only use the -1D when I need to put ords on a target but would rather dogfight in the -1A.

Indeed.  I don't know why people think the -1D is better than the -1A maybe because they see it is a later version?  I think the 1A is better on all counts then the 1D.
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: 321BAR on May 02, 2012, 01:07:49 PM
Indeed.  I don't know why people think the -1D is better than the -1A maybe because they see it is a later version?  I think the 1A is better on all counts then the 1D.
the difference between the 1A and 1D iirc is just the gas tanks and the ordinance
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: titanic3 on May 02, 2012, 02:05:13 PM
They all suck. Fly 109s.  :noid




 :bolt:
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: ink on May 02, 2012, 02:15:38 PM
They all suck. Fly 109s.  :noid




 :bolt:

I will raise you a KI-84  that will own all of them :O
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Babalonian on May 02, 2012, 04:26:02 PM
190 - game point.   :neener:
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: ink on May 02, 2012, 04:34:14 PM
190 - game point.   :neener:

wanna test it out :joystick:

your 190 against my KI
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: titanic3 on May 02, 2012, 04:34:31 PM
I will raise you a KI-84  that will own all of them :O

Hmm....I've always wanted to duel a noob.  :devil  :noid

 :bolt:
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: branch37 on May 02, 2012, 05:22:46 PM
To me, the -1 and the -1A handle pretty much the same, except the -1A is faster and climbs better.  The -1 does seem to "float" better, and I think it has a slightly better turn radius.  I prefer the -1A
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: ink on May 02, 2012, 05:25:59 PM
Hmm....I've always wanted to duel a noob.  :devil  :noid

 :bolt:

 :lol
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: curry1 on May 02, 2012, 07:00:18 PM
the difference between the 1A and 1D iirc is just the gas tanks and the ordinance

The 1-D is a bit slower and doesn't seem to hang as good.
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Babalonian on May 03, 2012, 05:24:39 PM
wanna test it out :joystick:

your 190 against my KI

Dance?  Anytime.  :aok
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: ink on May 03, 2012, 05:53:19 PM
Dance?  Anytime.  :aok

cool I will be starting a new ladder soon...a favorite ride ladder you should sign up....but before that we can go to DA....190 at close or Equal E at start stands no chance against my KI :D
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Letalis on May 06, 2012, 01:47:00 PM
1A  Better vis of courrse, better accel, better climb.  Due to the higher seat position you also have an improved deflection shooting capability.
1D  Carries ord, pylons slow it down.  Reduced endurance due to elimination of all fuel tanks except the main (fwd of cockpit).  Most stable imho though hardly a factor.  I rate it least tough the three as modeled because of vulnerability of fuel system.
-1  Slightly better turn radius but accompanied by the most abrupt stall characteristics of any Corsair making it dangerous to push the envelope low and slow.



There's no shortage of ppl who know how to fly the 1A, but there's only one person I see landing kills in the -1 over a long period of time.  To really get into the weeds of how the -1 is different, Specs is your guy.
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: ink on May 06, 2012, 05:09:11 PM
1A  Better vis of courrse, better accel, better climb.  Due to the higher seat position you also have an improved deflection shooting capability.
1D  Carries ord, pylons slow it down.  Reduced endurance due to elimination of all fuel tanks except the main (fwd of cockpit).  Most stable imho though hardly a factor.  I rate it least tough the three as modeled because of vulnerability of fuel system.
-1  Slightly better turn radius but accompanied by the most abrupt stall characteristics of any Corsair making it dangerous to push the envelope low and slow.



There's no shortage of ppl who know how to fly the 1A, but there's only one person I see landing kills in the -1 over a long period of time.  To really get into the weeds of how the -1 is different, Specs is your guy.

Specs is a great fight in that thing :aok
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on May 06, 2012, 09:59:41 PM
I think the -1 is a helluva dogfighter, especially in the scissors, even though  it may be a little lacking in the vert or acceleration, but i prefer the -1 over the 1A, just for the fact some people dont take it seriously, but what do i know im a B38 pilot ;)   :airplane:
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Butcher on May 07, 2012, 08:41:13 AM
I wish I could learn the Corsair series, my biggest problem is the instability when flying - it has a tendency to simply roll over during a turn, Its more common in the F4u-1 and F4u-1a where the F4u-1D does not do this.

I try to lay off on the stick when In a turn - normally thrashing it around in a 109/ki-84 cannot be done in a Corsair.

Beautiful bird though, props to those who can fly it correctly.
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Shuffler on May 14, 2012, 11:53:39 AM
On rare occassion when I have to take off from a carrier.... I might chose the 1A or F6. I prefer the -1A to the -1.


Ink if you ever want practice shooting down big ol' 38s give me a holler. I'm always up for getting shot down multiple times..... sometimes all in one flight.  :rofl

Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: ink on May 14, 2012, 01:04:50 PM
On rare occassion when I have to take off from a carrier.... I might chose the 1A or F6. I prefer the -1A to the -1.


Ink if you ever want practice shooting down big ol' 38s give me a holler. I'm always up for getting shot down multiple times..... sometimes all in one flight.  :rofl



38 can be a fun fight, very surprising in the right hands, considering its size..which I think is its worse aspect....damn thing is so big....Stevie wonder could hit it   :rofl

Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Banshee7 on May 14, 2012, 01:06:47 PM

There's no shortage of ppl who know how to fly the 1A, but there's only one person I see landing kills in the -1 over a long period of time.  To really get into the weeds of how the -1 is different, Specs is your guy.

I know of a few that used to fly back in my earlier years that flew the -1 religiously, but, yes, there's not many -1 pilots
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: Shuffler on May 14, 2012, 04:08:27 PM
38 can be a fun fight, very surprising in the right hands, considering its size..which I think is its worse aspect....damn thing is so big....Stevie wonder could hit it   :rofl



But... but... but..... you can miss between the booms  :p




 :rofl
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: ink on May 14, 2012, 04:18:12 PM
But... but... but..... you can miss between the booms  :p




 :rofl

 :D
Title: Re: F4U-1 vs. F4U-1a
Post by: xJUGGOx on May 21, 2012, 01:02:57 PM
I prefer the -1 over the rest. What I do is set elevator trim a notch or 2 for the turn fights brings that nose around much quicker, not to  mention I think it builds E great in a dive not to mention not to bad in a slow turn fight but you do have to use a lot of rudder.
 :airplane: