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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Rob52240 on May 21, 2012, 12:10:41 PM
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I hope I'm not the only one with little tolerance of those who demand that everyone else plays the map, or the game differently than myself.
Yesterday a bishop who must think of himself as some sort of Original Gangster kept typing in green calling people morons for attacking some vehicle base. Every few minutes this guy is yelling at the country calling people morons, always insisting that he has authority over these morons. It was nearly enough for me to post a mission to capture the base that this guy was so adamant nobody should attack.
Then again, it probably would have just degenerated into this all over again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LomIW64PrbQ
Warning, harsh language.
I think we should all make the effort to accept the fact that nobody outside of HTC has any real control over the way Aces High gets played by others.
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Do you think you are doing AH a good service by posting that on youtube for the world to see?
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See rule #4
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I actually flew for a day with the text bar closed down. It was...interesting. I missed some salutes, but I think it was worth it. No one to annoy you and just focus on the gameplay. Maybe you should try it, might do ya good.
Oh, and Original Gangsters as a squad is full of funnies. I've had my dealings with them, a couple DA matches solved everything. :)
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Hmmmmmmmmm...... Sounds like someone familiar.....
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I don't think this guy had a squad, I can't even imagine him getting along with anyone.
As far as posting old film of the same kind of BS on the BBS... We can learn a lot about how not to act from those who have nothing of value to offer.
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I actually flew for a day with the text bar closed down. It was...interesting. I missed some salutes, but I think it was worth it. No one to annoy you and just focus on the gameplay. Maybe you should try it, might do ya good.
Oh, and Original Gangsters as a squad is full of funnies. I've had my dealings with them, a couple DA matches solved everything. :)
It's range vox. Not possible to squelch that.
Sometimes I'm embarrassed being a Bish. :bheadI don't think this guy had a squad, I can't even imagine him getting along with anyone.
As far as posting old film of the same kind of BS on the BBS... We can learn a lot about how not to act from those who have nothing of value to offer.
The video sounded to me like the one side in the air was dictating to others how the game was to be played. "score pig" "go to the DA" "go to this fight where you are needed." The ground just wanted to be left to what they were doing before the mission appeared.
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:rofl
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As far as posting old film of the same kind of BS on the BBS... We can learn a lot about how not to act from those who have nothing of value to offer.
Spit the hook out then? You will always get the armchair generals, most dont know what they are talking about. Had one such guy on knights not too long ago crying because we kept turning the crusier to broadside the enemy Cruiser instead of keeping bow on, took about 5 people explaining the concept of broadside and crossing the T to the guy multiple times before he shut up.
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It's range vox. Not possible to squelch that.
Sometimes I'm embarrassed being a Bish. :bhead
The video sounded to me like the one side in the air was dictating to others how the game was to be played. "score pig" "go to the DA" "go to this fight where you are needed." The ground just wanted to be left to what they were doing before the mission appeared.
Pay attention to who's saying what. GO to the DA isn't what I'd call appropriate but neither is accusing someone of causing grief just to be a jerk or calling people stupid for going after a particular objective.
Since when is anyone entitled to play a map that doesn't change?
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some of the very best over there arguing about who is lamer than the other one.
priceless.
:rofl
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Original gangster = OG = Assbat
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Armchair jerks? Is that sort of like the most spineless player in the game hovering at 20k in one of the fastest non perked planes watching his lemmings get slaughtered below while waiting for his balls to drop far enough to make one weak BnZ pass and then PMing people and calling them cowards and noobs whilst running for his life?
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So... Who are the jerks in that video? The guys having a GV fight on the ground who are having fun and don't want it to end? Or the guys in the air who apparently feel it is necessary to take the one V base on the map that will end the fun for all those guys on the ground?
I'm confused.
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This situation has been discussed a few times lastly the discussion about sinking a cv that was near a base that killed the only late night furball. Some people just like the ability to be "that guy" and some people are always going to lose thier cool about that. Meanwhile other nearby bases wait for someone to up from thier hangers and start a fight.
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Pay attention to who's saying what. GO to the DA isn't what I'd call appropriate but neither is accusing someone of causing grief just to be a jerk or calling people stupid for going after a particular objective.
Since when is anyone entitled to play a map that doesn't change?
Look, let's be clear with some things, not to fight, but because I'd rather be rational with you this time around. I think you really should remove the video because for the AH community it's bad on the whole.
I think also anyone in that argument should be embarrassed because both sides sound childish. The reason I say the air is the one dictating is the GV's were there first. It's like playing on the playground, who ever was there first has first rights.
This is one of those moments every community has and it shouldn't be aired to the world. Both sides had options, both took the lower road, but the fliers IMO are the ones who intruded. We have to all play here and that was a needless dispute.
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I hope I'm not the only one with little tolerance of those who demand that everyone else plays the map, or the game differently than myself.
Yesterday a bishop who must think of himself as some sort of Original Gangster kept typing in green calling people morons for attacking some vehicle base. Every few minutes this guy is yelling at the country calling people morons, always insisting that he has authority over these morons. It was nearly enough for me to post a mission to capture the base that this guy was so adamant nobody should attack.
Then again, it probably would have just degenerated into this all over again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LomIW64PrbQ
Warning, harsh language.
I think we should all make the effort to accept the fact that nobody outside of HTC has any real control over the way Aces High gets played by others.
Bwahhaha, I watched the video (couldn't before, on my phone) and this was the mission where I killed vDallas just as he started his dive bomb. :rofl Lost a 262 to this horde, but oh so worth it. Of course, don't forget the vDallas PMs. :rock
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vDallas....what a strange man. Former squad mates of the vTards think very little of this pathetic man. :ahand
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Look, let's be clear with some things, not to fight, but because I'd rather be rational with you this time around. I think you really should remove the video because for the AH community it's bad on the whole.
I think also anyone in that argument should be embarrassed because both sides sound childish. The reason I say the air is the one dictating is the GV's were there first. It's like playing on the playground, who ever was there first has first rights.
This is one of those moments every community has and it shouldn't be aired to the world. Both sides had options, both took the lower road, but the fliers IMO are the ones who intruded. We have to all play here and that was a needless dispute.
I agree with most of this. But saying just because 1 group was one place first does not entitle them to dictate anything but their opinions to another group.
You can't expect everyone to know what everyone else is doing, and then adjust their strategy to fit. The air mission was totally oblivious to the spawn camping that was going on but the only one who knew what to expect was DZZ.
As far as deleting the film because "it makes us all look bad". This is nonsense and we should not fear the truth.
Yesterdays incidents as well as the film incident happened on a little map called Trinity. Which we all know offers few choices for offensive operations.
Alerting the enemy to what friendlies are doing on channel 200 seems like poor sportsmanship to me but I refuse to stoop to their level and cry about it while demanding HTC punish them for their first breach of my idea of the rules.
If anyone doesn't agree with me they should just flatter their self by bragging about all vTARD NOE stolen carrier stortch missions they've busted singlehandedly with their eyes closed. Or, just bring up Dallas as though it's the same as having a rational discussion.
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For the game's sake, take down the video. Lot's of people get aggrivated in competition and then say unfortunate things. No reason to have it up there for posterity.
If you boil it down taking out the emotion and the language and superfluous verbage it sounds like this.
Airborne players: We've coming to capture the enemy V-Base.
Ground players : We're having a good fight here, can you take a different base?
Airborne players: No. This base is central to our win the map strategy. There is no other way.
Ground players: Just take the Airbase directly, you have 50 people with you, enough to actually invade and real country and win. A125 will be a push over.
Airborne players: Why ahould I change my plan
Ground players: Repeat. because we are having a fun fight here.
Airborne Players: Go to the DA. The DA is for fighting. The MA is for capturing bases. The 50 of us think ending this fight will be fun for us. Your fun is no concern of ours.
Ground Players: :headscratch:
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For the game's sake, take down the video. Lot's of people get aggrivated in competition and then say unfortunate things. No reason to have it up there for posterity.
If you boil it down taking out the emotion and the language and superfluous verbage it sounds like this.
Airborne players: We've coming to capture the enemy V-Base.
Ground players : We're having a good fight here, can you take a different base?
Airborne players: No. This base is central to our win the map strategy. There is no other way.
Ground players: Just take the Airbase directly, you have 50 people with you, enough to actually invade and real country and win. A125 will be a push over.
Airborne players: Why ahould I change my plan
Ground players: Repeat. because we are having a fun fight here.
Airborne Players: Go to the DA. The DA is for fighting. The MA is for capturing bases. The 50 of us think ending this fight will be fun for us. Your fun is no concern of ours.
Ground Players: :headscratch:
Odd but that just about covers it Vink.
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Pay attention to who's saying what. GO to the DA isn't what I'd call appropriate but neither is accusing someone of causing grief just to be a jerk or calling people stupid for going after a particular objective.
Since when is anyone entitled to play a map that doesn't change?
watching the video reminds me of a fight between two retarded people over who's the most retarded.
I also found it funny that it took so many of you to capture a single V base.
ack-ack
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I have to admit, it is very hard to not bring up names when the hordes take a base, land, and move on. It is very much like playing 'whack a mole' and it is extremely frustrating.
That said, I've done my best not to mention any names, no matter how frustrated I get.
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yes VbobO you're right Vdallas is what you descriped in this thread title, people on the ground asking you not to kill the VB instead they ask you to go to the next AF, real classy Squad.
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yes VbobO you're right Vdallas is what you descriped in this thread title, people on the ground asking you not to kill the VB instead they ask you to go to the next AF, real classy Squad.
They didn't ask anything.
Insults and orders were barked up to the planes from below immediately after I politely told them that the fight was going to shift from the spawn to the enemy base.
watching the video reminds me of a fight between two retarded people over who's the most retarded.
I also found it funny that it took so many of you to capture a single V base.
ack-ack
And let's not forget the geniuses who always know the exact, everything, that should be, at any given time and mocking everything that doesn't meet that standard. Your posts seem to be a lot like the AI that runs the auto-ack in game. Just firing away criticism at everything in range.
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Original gangster = OG = Assbat
:rofl
And here I thought it was HOSS/Lt when the OP said he was yelling at and cursing out countrymen over range!
Asbatt, he's a little high strung too, poor fellah!
I had a hilarious interaction once when Asbatt was a knit, year ago or so..... poor guy is defending a V base, all by himself, against 5-6 enemy GVs, and is crying out for help over country channel, several times, with apparently no one coming to help.
So I figure, I'll tank a bit, and I up a Panzer from the VH and start rolling out towards the building where he's holed up. He's sitting up against one of the buildings near the maproom and offset VH's, on the left hand side of the building as I approached, his turret looking the other way. So I think "I'll come up the other side of the building and he can protect everything from the center to the left flank, and I'll take everything from center right."
I swore I said something to him on VOX, but apparently he didn't hear me..... as I roll out past the corner of the building and just beside him, I look over and see his turret is rotated with his gun right on me and BOOM he explodes! Apparently I was so close to him he couldn't see my big green icon above me through his sight, and thought I was an enemy tank trying to sneak up on him!!! He kill shot himself and exploded what appeared to have been a Tiger I...... :uhoh
The screaming and cursing lasted about 3 to 4 minutes, and then he logged in a rage fit. :rofl
I genuinely felt bad about it...... but I couldn't help but laugh that the guys attacking our base were squeeling in delight over 200 about the knit tanks on that V base killshooting themselves!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
That's my "Asbatt" story!
:cheers: Asbatt!
Edit, in response to Del's post: I don't mind mentioning HOSS, because he is a 'known quantity' so to speak, and Asbatt, screaming at me in a mad rage as he was, I'll up a tank to help him anytime. He's not a bad guy, and in hindsight, that whole episode was funny as heck!
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They didn't ask anything.
How are we to know that this video isnt started after thier request?
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And let's not forget the geniuses who always know the exact, everything, that should be, at any given time and mocking everything that doesn't meet that standard. Your posts seem to be a lot like the AI that runs the auto-ack in game. Just firing away criticism at everything in range.
I'm sorry if my comments hit the target but if you don't want to be on the receiving end, get off the short bus.
ack-ack
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Theres a lot of people that play this game that has forgotten that, ITS A GAME NOT REAL LIFE no need to get :furious!! Comon people step back and have yourself a :cheers:!
Seems to be too much of this (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e219/educ8athome/Avatars/girlfight.gif)
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Seems to be too much of this (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e219/educ8athome/Avatars/girlfight.gif)
I think that people consider that part of the game. Its thier $15 bucks they are gonna play the forum how they want to.
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For the game's sake, take down the video. Lot's of people get aggrivated in competition and then say unfortunate things. No reason to have it up there for posterity.
If you boil it down taking out the emotion and the language and superfluous verbage it sounds like this.
Airborne players: We've coming to capture the enemy V-Base.
Ground players : We're having a good fight here, can you take a different base?
Airborne players: No. This base is central to our win the map strategy. There is no other way.
Ground players: Just take the Airbase directly, you have 50 people with you, enough to actually invade and real country and win. A125 will be a push over.
Airborne players: Why ahould I change my plan
Ground players: Repeat. because we are having a fun fight here.
Airborne Players: Go to the DA. The DA is for fighting. The MA is for capturing bases. The 50 of us think ending this fight will be fun for us. Your fun is no concern of ours.
Ground Players: :headscratch:
notice the full mouth guffaw when they realized that the whatever the ground guys are doing, they gonna ruin their fun anyways.
Not couse i support Lt's tiger2 camptarding... stilll.
some major shines happened on both sides as they both showed an unseen level of intellectual sense. Now cry or laugh? You decide.
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Hehehehee! "Why would you take this vBase?"
"Because the odds of my tardling horde coming across
enemy fighters over here is almost nil. It's MUCH
safer."
Ah, the fun never ends....... ;)
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LT cussing that is surprising................... ...........*end sarcasm*
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So which one exactly is a jerk? Or which one is the "biggest" jerk?
See this is why I dont fly Bish. Ive never once heard anything like this with the Rooks. Ive heard whinging, and one on one cat fights, and crybaby "NOBODY WAS WATCHING MY SIX'S". But never an entire horde of teenagers acting like teenagers. Its not like this was on a PVT squad channel but on vox, which is unforgivable on both sides.
Entertaining cat fight tho. I must say it made my day. BTW was 25 airplanes enough to take a V-base? :lol
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:rofl
And here I thought it was HOSS/Lt when the OP said he was yelling at and cursing out countrymen over range!
Asbatt, he's a little high strung too, poor fellah!
I had a hilarious interaction once when Asbatt was a knit, year ago or so..... poor guy is defending a V base, all by himself, against 5-6 enemy GVs, and is crying out for help over country channel, several times, with apparently no one coming to help.
So I figure, I'll tank a bit, and I up a Panzer from the VH and start rolling out towards the building where he's holed up. He's sitting up against one of the buildings near the maproom and offset VH's, on the left hand side of the building as I approached, his turret looking the other way. So I think "I'll come up the other side of the building and he can protect everything from the center to the left flank, and I'll take everything from center right."
I swore I said something to him on VOX, but apparently he didn't hear me..... as I roll out past the corner of the building and just beside him, I look over and see his turret is rotated with his gun right on me and BOOM he explodes! Apparently I was so close to him he couldn't see my big green icon above me through his sight, and thought I was an enemy tank trying to sneak up on him!!! He kill shot himself and exploded what appeared to have been a Tiger I...... :uhoh
The screaming and cursing lasted about 3 to 4 minutes, and then he logged in a rage fit. :rofl
I genuinely felt bad about it...... but I couldn't help but laugh that the guys attacking our base were squeeling in delight over 200 about the knit tanks on that V base killshooting themselves!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
That's my "Asbatt" story!
:cheers: Asbatt!
Edit, in response to Del's post: I don't mind mentioning HOSS, because he is a 'known quantity' so to speak, and Asbatt, screaming at me in a mad rage as he was, I'll up a tank to help him anytime. He's not a bad guy, and in hindsight, that whole episode was funny as heck!
If he tanked like me that would be normal. lol
I get myself shooting through holes in trees. I need to remember the icon is hidden by the trees. :bhead
:rofl
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The guy had a right to be angry. Its basically like a couple guys playing a pick up game of basketball at a park, and then all of a sudden 30 cross-eyed jerks come and push them off. And then it turns out they aren't even trying to play basketball, but some bastardized, half wit version where they are all on the same team.
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I agree with most of this. But saying just because 1 group was one place first does not entitle them to dictate anything but their opinions to another group.
You can't expect everyone to know what everyone else is doing, and then adjust their strategy to fit. The air mission was totally oblivious to the spawn camping that was going on but the only one who knew what to expect was DZZ.
As far as deleting the film because "it makes us all look bad". This is nonsense and we should not fear the truth.
Yesterdays incidents as well as the film incident happened on a little map called Trinity. Which we all know offers few choices for offensive operations( Which we all know offers few choices for easy offensive operations).
Alerting the enemy to what friendlies are doing on channel 200 seems like poor sportsmanship to me but I refuse to stoop to their level and cry about it while demanding HTC punish them for their first breach of my idea of the rules.
If anyone doesn't agree with me they should just flatter their self by bragging about all vTARD NOE stolen carrier stortch missions they've busted singlehandedly with their eyes closed. Or, just bring up Dallas as though it's the same as having a rational discussion.
Personally I don't know why you posted that film again other than maybe you needed to increase the hit count on your "video's" page. That film shows your squad in as bad a light as what any one else has done in this game.
I also fixed your statement in the above quote. What I think you meant to say was what I added in the red. Your squad seems to know 3 missions. Granted they do them well and there is no real counter for a horde, but when it comes to working out a real plan and executing it you guys fall apart.
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LOL LT. Amongst the rudest players in the game. You bishop can have him. :aok
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watching the video reminds me of a fight between two retarded people over who's the most retarded.
I also found it funny that it took so many of you to capture a single V base.
ack-ack
It was Vtards they got no skill other than having tons of lemmings.
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Ground players: Just take the Airbase directly, you have 50 people with you, enough to actually invade and real country and win.
:rofl :rofl :rofl Priceless Vink :aok
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...just because 1 group was one place first does not entitle them to dictate anything but their opinions to another group.
If they are entitled to voice their opinions, why did you post this?
The video doesn't even support your text -- which is about one player being armchair general on side channel. The video shows several players on range asking you not to shut down their fight. Yes, the conversation turns ugly, but that is mainly because of the terse refusal they get from your squad.
Alerting the enemy to what friendlies are doing on channel 200 seems like poor sportsmanship to me but I refuse to stoop to their level and cry about it while demanding HTC punish them for their first breach of my idea of the rules.
But you are “crying about it”. You posted it here. Sure you don't like what they said or did in response to your actions, but you decided to air it here. You knew you were going to catch flak from players whose game play you were affecting. Your squad made the decision to proceed anyway, despite the complaints. So, who is griefing whom, really? And why are you complaining about it?
As far as deleting the film because "it makes us all look bad". This is nonsense and we should not fear the truth.
If you had let it go, players would likely have forgotten about the incident. Instead, you chose to immortalize this by creating a thread and posting a video. It seems to have backfired, because it makes you look just as bad as your intended targets. Maybe this is just you thriving on your squad being disliked, again. What "truth" you are exposing here that is so important? Do you simply not care that none of this is good for you, your squad or the game?
On the flip side of the coin, try thinking about this just for a moment (as unlikely as it may be): What if… just this one time, you had elected to heed the other players requests of “Hey, don't shut down our fight.” What if… you had chosen to change your strategy in favor of someone else's game play? What if… you had said: “OK guys, we don’t want to shut down your fight (on this limited map). We'll go take another base”? Might that have have left them thinking “Wow, maybe those vGuys aren't so bad after all.” Maybe someone would have said "thanks". I realize this isn't what you are after. But you also wouldn't have made any more enemies on your own side.
I agree with you that you have the right to play how you want within the rules of the game. But keep in mind that others are entitled to not like your choices, especially when it directly affects THEIR enjoyment of the game.
Bottom line: You reap what you sow, Rob. Live with it, don't whine about it.
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It was Vtards they got no skill other than having tons of lemmings.
That's false.
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Without Armchair Generals we would have no Generals at all. :)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv161/NormCameron/napoleonic-battle-art.jpg)
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Pay attention to who's saying what.
You choose to follow the guy, your just as accountable. If you don't want to be associated with it then don't be, ignoring it and following along is the same as saying you agree.
GO to the DA isn't what I'd call appropriate but neither is accusing someone of causing grief just to be a jerk or calling people stupid for going after a particular objective.
It became griefing when the stance "We're taking because we can, and couldn't care less whether you are enjoying yourself or not, so live with it" was taken up. Everyone who has played that map more than a few times knows that base has no real strategic value, better to leave it alone and keep the enemy GVers occupied if your looking to take nearby fields.
Since when is anyone entitled to play a map that doesn't change?
Since when are you, Dallas, and your squad entitled to dictate how anyone spends their time online? The defense that is always raised whenever someone bags on your squad is, "We play the game the way we want", does that not also apply for your countrymen?
At any rate had no bearing on me what so ever, but before you get indignant you might want to take a look at why your leader was so insistent on taking a base that could have easily been by passed and not harmed your overall goal in the least, while allowing others to continue their gameplay. :headscratch:
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Oh them vtards still at it?
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Having looked at the Youtube video, I feel the vGuys suffered from really abusive and inexcusable language. The polite thing to do would of been to take a different base before it escalated to that point.
That said, taking THAT many people in aircraft to take a base, particularly a vbase is absurd.
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Having looked at the Youtube video, I feel the vGuys suffered from really abusive and inexcusable language. The polite thing to do would of been to take a different base before it escalated to that point.
That said, taking THAT many people in aircraft to take a base, particularly a vbase is absurd.
I agree... The behavior and language of the tanker guys was worse than awful. Less offensive was the mob headed to a vBase that was largely insignificant, and using the well worn logic of "we will, because we can." Less offensive, but still not team friendly. Surely, the vGuys can understand that the tanker guys might not appreciate their mission. Clearly, vDallas could care less about anyone else's fun if they're not in his horde. I suspect that this is a common occurrence in Bish-land, as the annoyance of the GV guys seemed far above what it should have been.
Now, it is important to understand that you are not guaranteed a good fight. How often is there a good GV battle that gets interrupted by some guy who drops the opposing VH? Quite common, in my experience. It all goes with the game.
Nonetheless, I think that respect for fellow players will go a long way, and should be expected. Of course, I have no illusion that anything will change.....
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actually feel sorry for the Bish GVers , really nothing they could do , in a way they were hoarded as well
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I hope I'm not the only one with little tolerance of those who demand that everyone else plays the map, or the game differently than myself.
Yesterday a bishop who must think of himself as some sort of Original Gangster kept typing in green calling people morons for attacking some vehicle base. Every few minutes this guy is yelling at the country calling people morons, always insisting that he has authority over these morons. It was nearly enough for me to post a mission to capture the base that this guy was so adamant nobody should attack.
Then again, it probably would have just degenerated into this all over again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LomIW64PrbQ
Warning, harsh language.
I think we should all make the effort to accept the fact that nobody outside of HTC has any real control over the way Aces High gets played by others.
If we are all throwing our 2 cents in, your video just shows what it's like having to deal with your squad. I assume you're looking for some sort of sympathy for your "side" of things. It just highlights the worst of the MA and further solidifies the vTard image that now seems more than ever earned. All the language was out of line and shouldn't happen. But you go out of your way to ruin peoples fun " because you can brother" and what do you expect? Oh, I forgot the theme here. vVictims. And it's so odd you would take the time to upload that to youtube, make this thread. and it never occurred to you how bad it makes you look? Spare us with the truth nonsense too. Most know how you guys act, especially Master and Commander vDallas with the non stop PM abuse. I do like the last line of your post. We all just have to accept your behavior because there's nothing we can do about. Maybe so.
Or just go with, your gameplay as a squad sucks and you act like dicks.
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If they are entitled to voice their opinions, why did you post this?
The video doesn't even support your text -- which is about one player being armchair general on side channel. The video shows several players on range asking you not to shut down their fight. Yes, the conversation turns ugly, but that is mainly because of the terse refusal they get from your squad.
But you are “crying about it”. You posted it here. Sure you don't like what they said or did in response to your actions, but you decided to air it here. You knew you were going to catch flak from players whose game play you were affecting. Your squad made the decision to proceed anyway, despite the complaints. So, who is griefing whom, really? And why are you complaining about it?
If you had let it go, players would likely have forgotten about the incident. Instead, you chose to immortalize this by creating a thread and posting a video. It seems to have backfired, because it makes you look just as bad as your intended targets. Maybe this is just you thriving on your squad being disliked, again. What "truth" you are exposing here that is so important? Do you simply not care that none of this is good for you, your squad or the game?
On the flip side of the coin, try thinking about this just for a moment (as unlikely as it may be): What if… just this one time, you had elected to heed the other players requests of “Hey, don't shut down our fight.” What if… you had chosen to change your strategy in favor of someone else's game play? What if… you had said: “OK guys, we don’t want to shut down your fight (on this limited map). We'll go take another base”? Might that have have left them thinking “Wow, maybe those vGuys aren't so bad after all.” Maybe someone would have said "thanks". I realize this isn't what you are after. But you also wouldn't have made any more enemies on your own side.
I agree with you that you have the right to play how you want within the rules of the game. But keep in mind that others are entitled to not like your choices, especially when it directly affects THEIR enjoyment of the game.
Bottom line: You reap what you sow, Rob. Live with it, don't whine about it.
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Not crying about it. Just pointing out what the game degenerates into just like the forum does whenever there is disagreement. The same handfull of players (and non players since the forum is involved) start whipping theirs out and exaggerating the inches.
I posted this because in my experience, this is pretty much aces high at its worst. If we can see the environment created by acting like jerks, most of us will choose to avoid getting sucked into it the next time.
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If we are all throwing our 2 cents in, your video just shows what it's like having to deal with your squad. I assume you're looking for some sort of sympathy for your "side" of things. It just highlights the worst of the MA and further solidifies the vTard image that now seems more than ever earned. All the language was out of line and shouldn't happen. But you go out of your way to ruin peoples fun " because you can brother" and what do you expect? Oh, I forgot the theme here. vVictims. And it's so odd you would take the time to upload that to youtube, make this thread. and it never occurred to you how bad it makes you look? Spare us with the truth nonsense too. Most know how you guys act, especially Master and Commander vDallas with the non stop PM abuse. I do like the last line of your post. We all just have to accept your behavior because there's nothing we can do about. Maybe so.
Or just go with, your gameplay as a squad sucks and you act like dicks.
You should watch it again and pay attention this time. Then point out the part where I'm being a jerk. The video isn't something I just uploaded and I'm not crying victim. I am pointing out the kind of behavior that we don't need and I don't want mucking up my $15 a month.
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Not crying about it. Just pointing out what the game degenerates into just like the forum does whenever there is disagreement. The same handfull of players (and non players since the forum is involved) start whipping theirs out and exaggerating the inches.
I posted this because in my experience, this is pretty much aces high at its worst. If we can see the environment created by acting like jerks, most of us will choose to avoid getting sucked into it the next time.
I whip mine out just so I can play with it... The size is not the important part, as long as I have fun with it.
It IS mine ya know, and I can do whatever I want with it.
All of that aside, that was the funniest video I have ever seen. :aok :aok
Yes, because you can. Be my guest. It is a surefire way to win friends and influence people.
Go to the DA. This is the arena for hording the ever-loving bejezzus out of everyone, including the guys on our own country :rofl
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You should watch it again and pay attention this time. Then point out the part where I'm being a jerk. The video isn't something I just uploaded and I'm not crying victim. I am pointing out the kind of behavior that we don't need and I don't want mucking up my $15 a month.
The behavior I see in the film is a large squadron dictating to others how to play. Yes, as people pointed out the language used by members of COH wasn't nice but then they were pushed to it by your squadron basically telling them that you're going to screw them over by destroying their GV fight.
From my point of view, the problem wasn't the guys in the GVs but rather you and your squadron. So yes, you are correct in that we don't need the attitudes of you and your squadron since it's obvious you guys will not allow anyone else to play other than how you want them to play.
It's not just your squadron's timid, limp wristed flying and tactics that the community doesn't like, it's the attitude of "you must play like we say" that has made the community think you're nothing but a squadron of 'tards.
ack-ack
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I did watch it, twice, Rob. Sure at the start the ground guys were told that the fight was about to shift to the enemy base (in a big way it seems) in a calm and rational voice. However their first reply is to tell you all to go take the air base. This is reiterated by several different ground guys. The answer to this is "We're taking the vbase". There is no discussion just a flat refusal to accommodate the ground fight. Now once Lt gets involved it does degenerate very quickly however what remains is the fact that the devils brigade once again have proven themselves to be the lowest common denominator in the MA. This squad adds absolutely nothing to the game, only takes away from it. Now you've just painted an even bigger target on your squads collective back. :aok
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The VTards.......
This is why... we do not like them.....
but... speaking as an immature teenager..
L...O...L
THAT WAS HILARIOUS
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If they are entitled to voice their opinions, why did you post this?
The video doesn't even support your text -- which is about one player being armchair general on side channel. The video shows several players on range asking you not to shut down their fight. Yes, the conversation turns ugly, but that is mainly because of the terse refusal they get from your squad.
But you are “crying about it”. You posted it here. Sure you don't like what they said or did in response to your actions, but you decided to air it here. You knew you were going to catch flak from players whose game play you were affecting. Your squad made the decision to proceed anyway, despite the complaints. So, who is griefing whom, really? And why are you complaining about it?
If you had let it go, players would likely have forgotten about the incident. Instead, you chose to immortalize this by creating a thread and posting a video. It seems to have backfired, because it makes you look just as bad as your intended targets. Maybe this is just you thriving on your squad being disliked, again. What "truth" you are exposing here that is so important? Do you simply not care that none of this is good for you, your squad or the game?
On the flip side of the coin, try thinking about this just for a moment (as unlikely as it may be): What if… just this one time, you had elected to heed the other players requests of “Hey, don't shut down our fight.” What if… you had chosen to change your strategy in favor of someone else's game play? What if… you had said: “OK guys, we don’t want to shut down your fight (on this limited map). We'll go take another base”? Might that have have left them thinking “Wow, maybe those vGuys aren't so bad after all.” Maybe someone would have said "thanks". I realize this isn't what you are after. But you also wouldn't have made any more enemies on your own side.
I agree with you that you have the right to play how you want within the rules of the game. But keep in mind that others are entitled to not like your choices, especially when it directly affects THEIR enjoyment of the game.
Bottom line: You reap what you sow, Rob. Live with it, don't whine about it.
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The behavior I see in the film is a large squadron dictating to others how to play. Yes, as people pointed out the language used by members of COH wasn't nice but then they were pushed to it by your squadron basically telling them that you're going to screw them over by destroying their GV fight.
From my point of view, the problem wasn't the guys in the GVs but rather you and your squadron. So yes, you are correct in that we don't need the attitudes of you and your squadron since it's obvious you guys will not allow anyone else to play other than how you want them to play.
It's not just your squadron's timid, limp wristed flying and tactics that the community doesn't like, it's the attitude of "you must play like we say" that has made the community think you're nothing but a squadron of 'tards.
ack-ack
Both replies are spot on and still cannot make vBob realize the simple fact staring him in the face. :rofl
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Everyone in this game needs to GROW A FLIPPIN PAIR!!! :furious It's called a game for a reason people, to have fun and to keep you busy with something, if you don't like it then go spend your money somewhere else, tired of people's constant whining and complaining about air battles and base captures. Go play your Xbox and go complain with the rest of the scumbag 12 year olds on there. What a system this is, a bunch of 40+ year old men acting like a bunch of kids...pretty pathetic. Not to be a total D bag, but speaking straight to HTC... I've about had it with atmosphere of this game, about the only thing holding me on this game still is the people I know, and even they are leaving.... :eek:
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You ever realize that anyone with a vTard sign in front of their name = someone who no ones takes seriously? :joystick:
I've said it before. You guys (mostly vDallas) made a name for yourself and it stuck. You can be the nicest person in RL, but when you fly like the typical vtard (ignoring ACM, combat, bomb/auger, running) then you're instantly tagged as a you-know-what. I don't need to show proof of all of the above, go on 200 and ask "Why do you guys hate the Devil Brigades so much?" and I'm sure you'll get all your answers within 30 seconds.
Bottom line - either form a new squad with your best pilots who actually know something other than ignoring ACM, combat, bomb/auger, running, and play the game it was meant to be played. Furballs, 1v1, 2v2, air *combat*, fun decent sized mission (NOT your 30 man hordes) OR, be stuck being branded as "vTard".
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You should watch it again and pay attention this time. Then point out the part where I'm being a jerk. The video isn't something I just uploaded and I'm not crying victim. I am pointing out the kind of behavior that we don't need and I don't want mucking up my $15 a month.
Sure thing. While I'm doing that you take the time to read the replies in your thread.
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Sure thing. While I'm doing that you take the time to read the replies in your thread.
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Ahahahaha! vDALLAS and Lt deserve each other! Great video.
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I don't think this guy had a squad, I can't even imagine him getting along with anyone.
As far as posting old film of the same kind of BS on the BBS... We can learn a lot about how not to act from those who have nothing of value to offer.
NON VTARDS
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Share? :)
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Who was there first?
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and now for your casual break from idiocy, stupidity, and derpness for the usual video that would make everyone look at you a little weird! :aok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ppb_9DMyVM
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and now for your casual break from idiocy, stupidity, and derpness for the usual video that would make everyone look at you a little weird! :aok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ppb_9DMyVM
:rock
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and now for your casual break from idiocy, stupidity, and derpness for the usual video that would make everyone look at you a little weird! :aok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ppb_9DMyVM
NARWAHLS!!!
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i dunno that video freaked me out its time to set a happy mood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEHXDUE2h48&feature=fvsr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEHXDUE2h48&feature=fvsr)
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The video pretty much captures "us." We can do better. I favor winning over fun. I cannot conjure up fun without winning.
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vDALLAS needs TP for his bunghole
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Plus, he is the first one to come to mind when one thinks "Armchair jerk". He is worthy of the name vTARD.
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They're famous now; they've made "The Urban Dictionary" online...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vtard (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vtard)
(http://www.the-47-ronin.org/tours-of-duty/TD147/vdallas.jpg)
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I am all but shocked that this thread is still going. Considering Hitech post:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,330977.msg4339790.html#msg4339790 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,330977.msg4339790.html#msg4339790)
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Nobody's complained yet I guess.
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this thread is the w1nz!111!
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I posted this because in my experience, this is pretty much aces high at its worst. If we can see the environment created by acting like jerks, most of us will choose to avoid getting sucked into it the next time.
Rob, I agree the video shows Aces High at it's worst. What I don't understand is how you fail to see (or admit) your rather large role in it. What you chose to do instigated the whole thing, despite KNOWING before hand that it would (which vVOODOO mentions twice in the video). I know from personal experience that vDallas has a "I don't care what anyone thinks" mentality, so that was probably his response to any discussion about shutting down somebody else's fight. But the fact is, you posted a video that shows that your squad is just as willing to act like jerks to the point of even angering players on your own side.
Read your last sentence above again. You helped create this environment. Until you admit that, it seems your own philosophy is wasted on you. You will never be able to "choose to avoid getting sucked into it" this way.
Perhaps not posting videos that stir it up in the first place might be a good start though.
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This squad adds absolutely nothing to the game, only takes away from it.
quoted for truth
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quoted for truth
double quote :aok
they act like the biggest "armchair jerks" ingame.
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I remember a Chuwie mission... a load of NOE lancs and nikis. Im not a fan of it, still one thing made me feel bad while we were killing them.
Everyone was on the deck, noone were showing any darbar, not even a red dot... except vDALLAS, in his 20k dora.
Everyone died in that mission except him... he ran home without a kill.
You guys are seriously following this tard? Come on, grow up, you have an OWN mind...
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I remember a Chuwie mission... a load of NOE lancs and nikis. Im not a fan of it, still one thing made me feel bad while we were killing them.
Everyone was on the deck, noone were showing any darbar, not even a red dot... except vDALLAS, in his 20k dora.
Everyone died in that mission except him... he ran home without a kill.
You guys are seriously following this tard? Come on, grow up, you have an OWN mind...
I have seen that more times than I can count. Since everyone else has also, I know I am not imagining it.
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I am all but shocked that this thread is still going. Considering Hitech post:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,330977.msg4339790.html#msg4339790 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,330977.msg4339790.html#msg4339790)
You consider this a personal attack? I thought he was showing us what an armchair jerk is, using his squad as a working model. Leading by example...
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I'm counting on an EPIC Fugi cartoon next Sunday...multiple panels and maybe some color, too :devil
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You consider this a personal attack? I thought he was showing us what an armchair jerk is, using his squad as a working model. Leading by example...
Not the video, the some of the post.
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"I knew this would piss them off"
InstaGuilt
HTC that breaks your rule of "Don't be a d1ck"
:D :salute
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We can do better. I favor winning over fun. I cannot conjure up fun without winning.
So, the people that have fun playing the game are SOL?
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You guys are seriously following this tard? Come on, grow up, you have an OWN mind...
"And this is why our political system is shot, because of that kind of thinking."
Unbelievable. One of the rare moments when I'm embarrassed because of what someone else has said and done. Could you please get that film off youtube?
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There are only two maps with a good GV spawn to fight at A141 to V135 or the other map with V88 to V85. Every other base you have a 20 minute drive to get to fire a shot at another tank before you get bombed. That is why people get upset with the pilot types that take there only bases with a great spawn. Everyone knows it will cause a problem with the tankers if they do it.
Out of all the maps we have the pilots have every other base to operate from except four bases the tanker folks use so why take them? The map can be won easily without these four little bases. As for posting on YouTube there may be a time and a place for that but it in my view it is family business and should be handled like family business. Don't put the Aces high community s dirty laundry out for all to see it only hurts the game in the long run.
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I hope I'm not the only one with little tolerance of those who demand that everyone else plays the map, or the game differently than myself.
Yesterday a bishop who must think of himself as some sort of Original Gangster kept typing in green calling people morons for attacking some vehicle base. Every few minutes this guy is yelling at the country calling people morons, always insisting that he has authority over these morons. It was nearly enough for me to post a mission to capture the base that this guy was so adamant nobody should attack.
Then again, it probably would have just degenerated into this all over again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LomIW64PrbQ
Warning, harsh language.
I think we should all make the effort to accept the fact that nobody outside of HTC has any real control over the way Aces High gets played by others.
Lt i love hearing that guy get pissed that was worth it. :rofl
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Let the GV people have their fun......
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Let the GV people have their fun......
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/ju87/ju87_8.jpg) :noid
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Let the GV people have their fun......
Honestly I'm tired of this stuff. You shouldnt bomb them, cant see them now until your on top of them, shouldn't shoot at them, shouldnt be able to F3 them, shouldnt attack THEIR bases, and now shouldnt attack the enemy bases that are spawning in easy targets for them to rack up phony spawn kills so they can preen with their silly kill counts.
Remind me? This IS a flight game isnt it? Cripes!
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Honestly I'm tired of this stuff. You shouldnt bomb them, cant see them now until your on top of them, shouldn't shoot at them, shouldnt be able to F3 them, shouldnt attack THEIR bases, and now shouldnt attack the enemy bases that are spawning in easy targets for them to rack up phony spawn kills so they can preen with their silly kill counts.
Remind me? This IS a flight game isnt it? Cripes!
High fidelity flight simulation is the heart of Aces High but it doesn't end there. A war rages on the ground and at sea. Engage enemy armor in tank combat. Protect your fleet as a gunner or make a torpedo run in a PT boat. Lead an assault in an amphibious vehicle.
But still I agree on most of what you said. Just not the final statement.
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The behavior I see in the film is a large squadron dictating to others how to play. Yes, as people pointed out the language used by members of COH wasn't nice but then they were pushed to it by your squadron basically telling them that you're going to screw them over by destroying their GV fight.
From my point of view, the problem wasn't the guys in the GVs but rather you and your squadron. So yes, you are correct in that we don't need the attitudes of you and your squadron since it's obvious you guys will not allow anyone else to play other than how you want them to play.
It's not just your squadron's timid, limp wristed flying and tactics that the community doesn't like, it's the attitude of "you must play like we say" that has made the community think you're nothing but a squadron of 'tards.
ack-ack
There was enough of them in the air to keep three or four opponents in planes busy. Too bad none were there.
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There was enough of them in the air to keep three or four opponents in planes busy. Too bad none were there.
If they were...the brave attackers would be elsewhere.
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Honestly I'm tired of this stuff. You shouldnt bomb them, cant see them now until your on top of them, shouldn't shoot at them, shouldnt be able to F3 them, shouldnt attack THEIR bases, and now shouldnt attack the enemy bases that are spawning in easy targets for them to rack up phony spawn kills so they can preen with their silly kill counts.
Remind me? This IS a flight game isnt it? Cripes!
In typical Richie fashion, you completely miss the point. This isn't about killing GVs, this is about one squadron dictating to others how they should play. Pay attention next time Richie, it gets tiring having to explain things slowly to you.
ack-ack
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In typical Richie fashion, you completely miss the point. This isn't about killing GVs, this is about one squadron dictating to others how they should play. Pay attention next time Richie, it gets tiring having to explain things slowly to you.
ack-ack
So...
Are you trying to tell me that we do not have to follow the orders of vDallas all of the time?
Why the hell aren't I notified about these things? :furious
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You consider this a personal attack? I thought he was showing us what an armchair jerk is, using his squad as a working model. Leading by example...
Tried to stay outta this but...... Thats funny! :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Sigh .