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Title: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 04, 2012, 05:53:54 PM
being mister nice guy



the huge gangs that show no respect or honor in a game....have pushed me....I am done

so I hereby rescind my policy of no vulching......... no ganging........ no Hoing........ not flying the uberist rides...

so when you see me in the 16...LA7...K4...262.....51D.. .....look around you at the huge hoard of green guys that will do ANYTHING to "win" GANG a guy 10-15 on 1...60 plus on 1 field......you will know why.


if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA  :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 04, 2012, 05:57:46 PM
being mister nice guy



the huge gangs that show no respect or honor in a game....have pushed me....I am done

so I hereby rescind my policy of no vulching......... no ganging........ no Hoing........ not flying the uberist rides...

so when you see me in the 16...LA7...K4...262.....51D.......look around you at the huge hoard of green guys that will do ANYTHING to "win" GANG a guy 10-15 on 1...60 plus on 1 field......you will know why.


if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA  :aok
Im glad someone realised how much of a beast the  I-16 is
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: JOACH1M on July 04, 2012, 05:58:13 PM
I adapted the same tactics.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 04, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
I adapted the same tactics.

the other night just pushed me...I was fighting 4 guys..... I get a PM about some squadies ganging someone...how I am just as bad as everyone else that gangs....he was actually blaming me for what 2 from my squad where doing...I wasn't even anywhere near them..... :rolleyes:

so I said screw it and rolled the K4 then the spit 16....I got 40 kills and died 3 times.....they didn't like me before they are gonna really hate me now :t

Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: RedBull1 on July 04, 2012, 06:05:46 PM
Yup, I have been in spits, la7's, and jets much more often lately as well, in fact I got to 22 kills in my 262 last night, 1 re arm...but then i lost an engine and got ganged  :bhead  :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: DMGOD on July 04, 2012, 06:06:22 PM
the other night just pushed me...I was fighting 4 guys..... I get a PM about some squadies ganging someone...how I am just as bad as everyone else that gangs....he was actually blaming me for what 2 from my squad where doing...I wasn't even anywhere near them..... :rolleyes:

so I said screw it and rolled the K4 then the spit 16....I got 40 kills and died 3 times.....they didn't like me before they are gonna really hate me now :t



we didnt like you we LOVED you
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 04, 2012, 06:06:25 PM
And if you go further along this path, you might even end up at my altitude one day...  :devil
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 04, 2012, 06:09:12 PM
Yup, I have been in spits, la7's, and jets much more often lately as well, in fact I got to 22 kills in my 262 last night, 1 re arm...but then i lost an engine and got ganged  :bhead  :aok

sux I suk so bad in the 262 but I am practicing with those taters  :pray

we didnt like you we LOVED you

 :rofl :salute

And if you go further along this path, you might even end up at my altitude one day...  :devil

 :rofl
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: DrBone1 on July 04, 2012, 06:10:34 PM
Welcome Ink.  :lol   :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Slash27 on July 04, 2012, 06:13:55 PM
being mister nice guy



the huge gangs that show no respect or honor in a game....have pushed me....I am done

so I hereby rescind my policy of no vulching......... no ganging........ no Hoing........ not flying the uberist rides...

so when you see me in the 16...LA7...K4...262.....51D.. .....look around you at the huge hoard of green guys that will do ANYTHING to "win" GANG a guy 10-15 on 1...60 plus on 1 field......you will know why.


if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA  :aok
Sooooooo,  about that La-7 skin I was talking about. :D
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Midway on July 04, 2012, 06:14:38 PM
being mister nice guy



the huge gangs that show no respect or honor in a game....have pushed me....I am done

so I hereby rescind my policy of no vulching......... no ganging........ no Hoing........ not flying the uberist rides...

so when you see me in the 16...LA7...K4...262.....51D.. .....look around you at the huge hoard of green guys that will do ANYTHING to "win" GANG a guy 10-15 on 1...60 plus on 1 field......you will know why.


if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA  :aok

 :banana: :rock :salute :banana:

 :joystick: :mad:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 04, 2012, 06:23:12 PM
Sooooooo,  about that La-7 skin I was talking about. :D

ya I haven't done any in awhile....send me some links.

Welcome Ink.  :lol   :salute


 ;)


 :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ROC on July 04, 2012, 06:26:26 PM
Welcome to the dark side.  Everyone reaches the point where they simply accept the fact that the Main Arena is a free for all.  Anything goes, anything can and will happen, and when you first stop caring how anyone else plays or what anyone else does, you can finally log in and fully enjoy the game for what it is.

Structure?  Special events. FSO, Scenarios, Snapshots, KOTH any number of regularly scheduled events each having a different level of immersion and restrictions.

You are on your own in the Mains, no one will ever play how you want them to play or expect them to play. To have an imaginary expectation of what people will say or do will never turn out well and will always disappoint you.  If a group gets together to defend the kingdom from the horde, Great!!  If not, no lost sleep here, simply don't care. The map will reset and all that territory lost will be recovered.   I shoot someone and they don't like the way I shot them, who cares, I was shooting them not inviting them over for thanksgiving dinner.  If I was concerned about what they might say or think about me, I wouldn't have my fragile little ego up in the virtual sky playing with guns.  Game has 2 levels, pleasant or irrelevant.  The negative wasted BS just isn't worth the little time I get to actually play so it doesn't get my attention.

I hate surprises.  If I expect someone to face shoot me, or ram me, or bomb my GV, or pork my base, or any number of things that will spoil my flight I will work tirelessly to avoid those situations.  Then, when it doesn't happen, I'll be surprised and pleased, and never disappointed in someone's actions again.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 04, 2012, 06:37:35 PM
ROC

I always knew the MA was a free for all...I still flew with standards...I didn't "expect" it from others...

I do know just because you can do something does not mean you should.....IE 10 or more on one con....

I know I still wont be a part of that...my flying style wont change so much.... I will still most often be by myself or with a couple squadies around..but I will not leave if a bunch of green guys show up like I used to..and now I will just be in a plane that will truly dominate the gang....


I did the FSO for a long time...my satellite connect makes it to unpredictable to do it now a days...they were some awesome times.
 :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: USCH on July 04, 2012, 06:38:15 PM
i fly a stuka, because its more fun to be challanged. but i see your point, and im getting close to the same opinion.. i know your good, and you know your good, and that is all that counts.  :aok  :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: RedBull1 on July 04, 2012, 06:48:20 PM
sux I suk so bad in the 262 but I am practicing with those taters  :pray

 :rofl :salute

 :rofl
Never before had I had that many kills in a plane before, not 1 vulch, 1 re arm... most I had ever gotten was 19, and I landed it, you can't imagine how mad I was when I died with those 22  :bhead
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Big Rat on July 04, 2012, 06:51:20 PM
The reason my butt mainly stays out of the air in the MA's.  The anything for the kill mentality that prevails there.  Thank goodness for FSO and scenarios.  Limited lives makes an entirely diferent game.  Sorry to hear about your connection issues effecting FSO playing.

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Butcher on July 04, 2012, 06:53:36 PM
don't blame ya ink, last tour was first tour I split 50/50 from flying high eny planes to low ones, frankly hate to say it but the game turned into Horde vs Horde.

I probably will see a rise in 262s and tempest flights this tour, or 51s etc.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 04, 2012, 07:00:41 PM
The reason my butt mainly stays out of the air in the MA's.  The anything for the kill mentality that prevails there.  Thank goodness for FSO and scenarios.  Limited lives makes an entirely diferent game.  Sorry to hear about your connection issues effecting FSO playing.

 :salute
BigRat

ya it bumms me out some of the very best times was in FSO....crazy boring flights made fun because of my crazy squaddies....  then a swirling mass of red and green...truly gave me a glimpse of what it was like for the real fighters of that day.


i fly a stuka, because its more fun to be challanged. but i see your point, and im getting close to the same opinion.. i know your good, and you know your good, and that is all that counts.  :aok  :salute

 :salute

Never before had I had that many kills in a plane before, not 1 vulch, 1 re arm... most I had ever gotten was 19, and I landed it, you can't imagine how mad I was when I died with those 22  :bhead

ehh free planes in the hanger :neener:...I try to never let the game get me "mad" I log as soon as I feel it happening.

BTW I seen you said you suk in another thread..... :old:

 :D

don't blame ya ink, last tour was first tour I split 50/50 from flying high eny planes to low ones, frankly hate to say it but the game turned into Horde vs Horde.

I probably will see a rise in 262s and tempest flights this tour, or 51s etc.


yup...the K4 and spits will be getting a few more sorties from me...probably more in the spits the damn tater in the K4 and I have issues.... :rofl

I may even find myself in the 51D.... :o



 :rofl
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: bustr on July 04, 2012, 07:07:43 PM
First you blamed others for not playing the game in the "One True Way" supposidly you are the best example of in whole human race.

Now you blame the unwashed unworthy masses for forcing you to stain your soul and act your true self.

What next??

It's all of the unworthy unwashed masses faults for you breaking your arms patting yourself on the back this hard for being a superior form of life above them?

Seems you have covered the first 3 of 5 stages from self denial, to self delusion, along with outing the Aces High members of a 12 step narcasism neurosis recovery program.

At least now by being honest with yourselves and this community about enjoying the idea of slauthering the helpless masses you detest so much. Maybe you can enjoy the game for once and stop needing this forum as a way to fix your need to prey on them behind the canard of good natured abuse for their own good. Then Fugitive can get back to creating slightly more positive cartoons to describe the Aces High Community.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Daddkev on July 04, 2012, 07:10:30 PM
 :rofl :rofl :huh :rofl :rofl Come on in...the water is wet!  :rofl :huh :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: titanic3 on July 04, 2012, 07:10:40 PM
First you blamed others for not playing the game in the "One True Way" supposidly you are the best example of in whole human race.

Now you blame the unwashed unworthy masses for forcing you to stain your soul and act your true self.

What next??

It's all of the unworthy unwashed masses faults for you breaking your arms patting yourself on the back this hard for being a superior form of life above them?

Seems you have covered the first 3 of 5 stages from self denial, to self delusion, along with outing the Aces High members of a 12 step narcasism neurosis recovery program.

At least now by being honest with yourselves and this community about enjoying the idea of slauthering the helpless masses you detest so much. Maybe you can enjoy the game for once and stop needing this forum as a way to fix your need to prey on them behind the canard of good natured abuse for their own good. Then Fugitive can get back to creating slightly more positive cartoons to describe the Aces High Community.

Uh oh, 5 pages of horde vs anti horde discussion incoming! :uhoh
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Slash27 on July 04, 2012, 07:23:41 PM
First you blamed others for not playing the game in the "One True Way" supposidly you are the best example of in whole human race.

Now you blame the unwashed unworthy masses for forcing you to stain your soul and act your true self.

What next??

It's all of the unworthy unwashed masses faults for you breaking your arms patting yourself on the back this hard for being a superior form of life above them?

Seems you have covered the first 3 of 5 stages from self denial, to self delusion, along with outing the Aces High members of a 12 step narcasism neurosis recovery program.

At least now by being honest with yourselves and this community about enjoying the idea of slauthering the helpless masses you detest so much. Maybe you can enjoy the game for once and stop needing this forum as a way to fix your need to prey on them behind the canard of good natured abuse for their own good. Then Fugitive can get back to creating slightly more positive cartoons to describe the Aces High Community.
Translation- "I've got hangups because I'll never be more than mediocre at best as a pretend cartoon pilot and this is the only venue in which I can strike back at Ink and save face in my deluded world"

And by the way. As hard as you work at sounding "teh smart", you may try hitting that spell check button here and there. It just loses something when you have to decipher "slauthering" and "supposidly".
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Guppy35 on July 04, 2012, 07:27:57 PM
ya it bumms me out some of the very best times was in FSO....crazy boring flights made fun because of my crazy squaddies....  then a swirling mass of red and green...truly gave me a glimpse of what it was like for the real fighters of that day.


 :salute

ehh free planes in the hanger :neener:...I try to never let the game get me "mad" I log as soon as I feel it happening.

BTW I seen you said you suk in another thread..... :old:

 :D

yup...the K4 and spits will be getting a few more sorties from me...probably more in the spits the damn tater in the K4 and I have issues.... :rofl

I may even find myself in the 51D.... :o



 :rofl

Selling your soul to make the numbers better.  Don't do it INK.    You could shoot every last one of the horde down in your Spit XVI and all you'd be able to say is the only way you could beat em was to join em.  It says nothing about your ability or credibility, and speaks loudly to your frustration.  That last part is still on you.

I hope you think about it again before you go down that path.  it's not about the number of kills.  It's about the quality of the fight.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Slash27 on July 04, 2012, 07:33:08 PM
Selling your soul to make the numbers better.  Don't do it INK.    You could shoot every last one of the horde down in your Spit XVI and all you'd be able to say is the only way you could beat em was to join em.  It says nothing about your ability or credibility, and speaks loudly to your frustration.  That last part is still on you.

I hope you think about it again before you go down that path.  it's not about the number of kills.  It's about the quality of the fight.
But Bustr said.... :headscratch:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Butcher on July 04, 2012, 07:39:40 PM
Selling your soul to make the numbers better.  Don't do it INK.    You could shoot every last one of the horde down in your Spit XVI and all you'd be able to say is the only way you could beat em was to join em.  It says nothing about your ability or credibility, and speaks loudly to your frustration.  That last part is still on you.

I hope you think about it again before you go down that path.  it's not about the number of kills.  It's about the quality of the fight.

I only see quality in the fights when its FSO or Scenarios, otherwise MA is just trashy.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: justIN on July 04, 2012, 07:42:50 PM
Somebody is using the dum guy book to sound smart again! And it took only six hours to write up his reply. Think there on sale at the dollar store.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 04, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
First you blamed others for not playing the game in the "One True Way" supposidly you are the best example of in whole human race.

Now you blame the unwashed unworthy masses for forcing you to stain your soul and act your true self.

What next??

It's all of the unworthy unwashed masses faults for you breaking your arms patting yourself on the back this hard for being a superior form of life above them?

Seems you have covered the first 3 of 5 stages from self denial, to self delusion, along with outing the Aces High members of a 12 step narcasism neurosis recovery program.

At least now by being honest with yourselves and this community about enjoying the idea of slauthering the helpless masses you detest so much. Maybe you can enjoy the game for once and stop needing this forum as a way to fix your need to prey on them behind the canard of good natured abuse for their own good. Then Fugitive can get back to creating slightly more positive cartoons to describe the Aces High Community.

damn.... I knew I was ok.... maybe pretty good even......but "the best example for all humanity" .......oh man I am embarrassed by your complements you make me blush :o


Selling your soul to make the numbers better.  Don't do it INK.    You could shoot every last one of the horde down in your Spit XVI and all you'd be able to say is the only way you could beat em was to join em.  It says nothing about your ability or credibility, and speaks loudly to your frustration.  That last part is still on you.

I hope you think about it again before you go down that path.  it's not about the number of kills.  It's about the quality of the fight.

been saying that to myself, for a long time now......you know what... I was wrong.....to truly win/fight/compete against the hoard,  ....you must use the tools before you.......why ignore the best planes in the hanger when that is what it takes to actually compete in the MA if you are more or less a lone wolf such as I?

joining them would be joining a huge hoard of green guys attacking one low con.....

me from now on....I am gonna use the best tools...... the dirtiest tricks....... to kill them all....
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: HawkerMKII on July 04, 2012, 07:44:03 PM
Uh oh, 5 pages of horde vs anti horde discussion incoming! :uhoh

It's already started and it's 12.....no 13 pages
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Guppy35 on July 04, 2012, 07:46:09 PM
But Bustr said.... :headscratch:

I flew for the first time this month.  Took off in the old 38G from a field getting attacked.  Got into a fight with a BnZ 47M.  Best I could do was hug the deck and hope he augered.  Just about pulled it off too.  Bled his E down until I finally was able to reverse and get a shot from about 600 out as he was still fast.  All kinds of parts came off.  He didn't go down, but didn't come back down either.  Despite my rust I could still work the 38G.  I ended up getting picked right after that but the first fight was worth it.

Took off again from a nearby field as they took the one I was at initially.  Headed towards the dar bar.  Found 2 sets of Lancs above me with a single Tony escorting.   Down he came.  The Lancs droned on so he was doing his job.  Again we got mixed in and I was lucky enough after about 3 minutes of bending it to work in behind him and shoot him down.  I said to Soulyss later that I should probably shut down for the month as I'd had my one really great fight.

But he and I upped and wandered towards a large dar bar.  Again we got mixed in with a number of baduns.  Pleasantly surprised to see they wanted to fight outside of one 38L who keep HOing and running.  He died a number of times as that really didn't work for him.  In the end both Soulyss and I ended up in the water, he from a pilot wound and me from out of fuel.  But we'd downed a few birds and the fights had been agreeably fun from both sides.

Not going to quit playing that way just cause I might have a couple of frustrating nights :)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: uptown on July 04, 2012, 07:47:12 PM
The MA is a massive fuster cluck and nothing more then a practice arena for the real game which takes place in the SEA and FSO arenas.  :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Guppy35 on July 04, 2012, 07:47:20 PM
damn.... I knew I was ok.... maybe pretty good even......but "the best example for all humanity" .......oh man I am embarrassed by your complements you make me blush :o


been saying that to myself, for a long time now......you know what... I was wrong.....to truly win/fight/compete against the hoard,  ....you must use the tools before you.......why ignore the best planes in the hanger when that is what it takes to actually compete in the MA if you are more or less a lone wolf such as I?

joining them would be joining a huge hoard of green guys attacking one low con.....

me from now on....I am gonna use the best tools...... the dirtiest tricks....... to kill them all....

And it won't be any fun at all for ya INK cause it won't prove anything other that you can do it, which I think most agree we already know.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 04, 2012, 07:49:21 PM
The MA is a massive fuster cluck and nothing more then a practice arena for the real game which takes place in the SEA and FSO arenas.  :salute

If there weren't the MA, I would not play AH at all. I have given up flying special events years ago  :uhoh
To me, the MA is the real game. Everything else is just a sideshow. ;)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 04, 2012, 07:51:02 PM
And it won't be any fun at all for ya INK cause it won't prove anything other that you can do it, which I think most agree we already know.

 :P

I may find myself in the 38 even...used properly it is one of the best in the hanger....
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Butcher on July 04, 2012, 08:00:01 PM
:P

I may find myself in the 38 even...used properly it is one of the best in the hanger....

For the rest of us that suck, the 38 is left BEST in the hanger :)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 04, 2012, 08:10:19 PM
Cookies for all!

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Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Ruah on July 04, 2012, 08:10:53 PM
Ink,

I switched over to the K4 today because of the same reasons and you know what? The Stang and LALAs can't run and I can egress without having to plant and fight one after another after another.  I feel for you man, the KI is fun, but it lacks initiative and it seems no one really cares about the fight and more about the points.

And yes, fso and scenario is where it is at. . . but if you find yourself in a 1v1, you screwed up.

More power to you!
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Guppy35 on July 04, 2012, 08:22:41 PM
:P

I may find myself in the 38 even...used properly it is one of the best in the hanger....

Would that not also describe the Ki-84? :)

Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: 1MADDOG1 on July 04, 2012, 08:33:25 PM
Consider your ways. Consider your ways indeed!

Now you are flying like Midway. :rofl
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Midway on July 04, 2012, 08:36:24 PM
:P

I may find myself in the 38 even...used properly it is one of the best in the hanger....

Please please let me know where you up from.... P38s flown by top pilots falling to my Spitfire MK VIII is awesome fun! :x

 :joystick:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: homersipes on July 04, 2012, 09:24:42 PM
just my $.02, I dont fly in the ma much mainly due to my POS computer gets too slow to fly, so I fly in the DA.  My experience in the ma is that you get ganged and hoed way toooo often.  the best fights I have had there were early in the am with fester :salute, so even if my pc wasnt a POS I would probably just stick in the da :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: RedBull1 on July 04, 2012, 10:59:59 PM
ya it bumms me out some of the very best times was in FSO....crazy boring flights made fun because of my crazy squaddies....  then a swirling mass of red and green...truly gave me a glimpse of what it was like for the real fighters of that day.


 :salute

ehh free planes in the hanger :neener:...I try to never let the game get me "mad" I log as soon as I feel it happening.

BTW I seen you said you suk in another thread..... :old:

 :D

yup...the K4 and spits will be getting a few more sorties from me...probably more in the spits the damn tater in the K4 and I have issues.... :rofl

I may even find myself in the 51D.... :o



 :rofl
I do suck! Didn't you read the part about me dieing?  :neener:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Shuffler on July 04, 2012, 11:40:36 PM
being mister nice guy



the huge gangs that show no respect or honor in a game....have pushed me....I am done

so I hereby rescind my policy of no vulching......... no ganging........ no Hoing........ not flying the uberist rides...

so when you see me in the 16...LA7...K4...262.....51D.. .....look around you at the huge hoard of green guys that will do ANYTHING to "win" GANG a guy 10-15 on 1...60 plus on 1 field......you will know why.


if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA  :aok

 :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: BushLT1 on July 05, 2012, 12:07:59 AM
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Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: nrshida on July 05, 2012, 12:38:32 AM
Ink, the way of the Samurai is found in death.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: zack1234 on July 05, 2012, 12:54:55 AM
I have always liked you INK but its not your fighting skills and technique that are in question :old:

Those Cuban heel cowboy boots are the issue in the game, they are the cause of anger within the game :old:

I appreciate that its your form of expression but they do cause offense :old:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Slash27 on July 05, 2012, 01:01:00 AM
Dude, don't bring up the boots.     :uhoh
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: oakranger on July 05, 2012, 01:50:51 AM
It is ok, Ink.  I get a good 1 v 1 fight then his buddies show up.  It only make me a better stick.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Debrody on July 05, 2012, 02:01:03 AM
Ink,
if you start to gang, horde, ho, vulch etc you will be disgusted by yourself after 2 days. At least if you work the same way as me...
 :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: danny76 on July 05, 2012, 03:22:14 AM
being mister nice guy



the huge gangs that show no respect or honor in a game....have pushed me....I am done

so I hereby rescind my policy of no vulching......... no ganging........ no Hoing........ not flying the uberist rides...

so when you see me in the 16...LA7...K4...262.....51D.. .....look around you at the huge hoard of green guys that will do ANYTHING to "win" GANG a guy 10-15 on 1...60 plus on 1 field......you will know why.


if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA  :aok

This is precisely the same conclusion that I reached yesterday. I have been here for nearly 4 years, albeit for a 6 month sabbatical when I was off earning my shilling. I have reached a standard (read fairly dreadful) and pretty much plateaued, but yesterday just brought me to the same conclusions as you.

Yesterday I must have died 100 times and actually accomplished about 10 kills, in that time I had one straight fight against MK84, the rest of the time I died through getting shot in the face, picked, or hit by ack chasing someone over their field. The number of times I had multiple enemies tag teaming me to HO I lost count.

I am well aware my SA is poor, I don't know why this is because in RL I know my SA is superb and has to be, but nevertheless its poor in here.

I also know all the arguments :

a.)don't follow him into ack
b.)don't put yourself in a position to be ganged
c.)it takes 2 to HO
d.)it's not our fault you dived in to engage 4
e.)Ho'ing and picking and ganging were all legitimate WW2 tactics

So I think I reached your conclusion, I am going to take every ho shot I can, going to vulch and pick and sail around at 30k till one of my squaddies gets engaged, and only then will I dive in and pick. But no way will I call Check 6 because it may spoil my aim if he breaks early.

Whenever I get the chance and see a squaddie in a slower plane, shooting a guy up, I'll overtake him and hammer the enemy all the way into the sea so I can be sure of enough hits for the kill.

But in truth INK, what you will do and what I will do is get mad, promise yourself you will change and fight dirty, and the moment you find yourself over 5 enemy cons hiding in ack, you'll revert to your original ways and get stuck in to them. :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Plawranc on July 05, 2012, 03:27:34 AM
I am with Ink on this.

I have flown nothing but Spit 9's, SBD's, Stukas, D3A's, B-25s, F4U1a's... and various other rides that took a challenge... and all I got, no matter how valiantly I fought, was gangtarded or HO'd out of my mind.

So, I roll LA7's and Ponies these days.

They can't kill me if they cannot catch me.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Pand on July 05, 2012, 04:51:47 AM
The LWMA is just a place to kill time until Friday.  Get back into FSO, it's way more rewarding than the MA can ever be.  :cheers:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: zack1234 on July 05, 2012, 04:53:37 AM
Danny I apreciate your dismay, but what sort of footwear do you wear when in said planes? :old:

This is a serious issue we need to address :old:

You and Ink are in deline inregards to your problems. :old:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: nrshida on July 05, 2012, 04:57:48 AM
I was going to make a hippy protest about not contributing to the problem, but instead I did an experiment in the MA being more aggressive and merciless, pressing every advantage and trying simply to kill and I have to say it was rather fun. 7 kills in one sortie, chased down by an angry mob, cornered and rightfully ganged to death by four vengeful players at the end. Still reversed and killed one of those. At least I was ganged AFTER I got some kills this way round.

I've decided it is rather fun to be a complete barstard, so I've decided to join you Ink  :lol  :banana: :rock

Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: danny76 on July 05, 2012, 05:09:41 AM
Danny I apreciate your dismay, but what sort of footwear do you wear when in said planes? :old:

This is a serious issue we need to address :old:

You and Ink are in deline inregards to your problems. :old:


I wear these, although I don't see how they would affect my flyin inability

(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu108/metallldan/outrageous_shoes_640_06.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: zack1234 on July 05, 2012, 05:41:48 AM
Flippen heck!

A picture says a thousand words :old:

Its not your flying abilitie thats being assessed, the anger generated by said footwear is causing anger within the enemy and thus unsporting behaviour issues :old:

Ink wears red cowboy boots with Cuban heels and thus generates general anger towards himself :old:

I myself wear flip flops produced from old inners tubes and Tyres  :old:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: nrshida on July 05, 2012, 05:44:38 AM
I myself wear flip flops produced from old inners tubes and Tyres  :old:

Like your incontinence pants?  :old:

Didn't they say Goodyear on the back?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 05, 2012, 05:57:42 AM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

oh my word you guys rock :rofl :rofl


 :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Slash27 on July 05, 2012, 06:25:24 AM
Ink HOs in biplanes.  :(
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: zack1234 on July 05, 2012, 09:11:46 AM
Like your incontinence pants?  :old:

Didn't they say Goodyear on the back?

They are Kendo tyres from the far east $3.24 each.

Due to the recession I now play AH while sitting on the Toilet it works out cheaper.

I thank you.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Slate on July 05, 2012, 09:44:02 AM
(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/pepochas005/dark-side.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Noir on July 05, 2012, 10:04:56 AM
welcome to aces high :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Wiley on July 05, 2012, 10:25:27 AM
I am gonna use the best tools...... the dirtiest tricks....... to kill them all....

Quote
if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA   :aok

F I N A L L Y!!!  After the amount of time he's been here, he at long last gets it!  :D

The plane choice shift isn't that big of a deal, I'm just happy you're finally going to start putting forth maximum effort in the arena!

Wiley.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: dhyran on July 05, 2012, 10:38:01 AM
I wear these, although I don't see how they would affect my flyin inability

(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu108/metallldan/outrageous_shoes_640_06.jpg)

look fishy too me  :lol
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: nrshida on July 05, 2012, 10:59:20 AM
Thing about the Hayate, when you mostly fly alone, is that it doesn't dive at all well. So if you fight with a little altitude you tend to have them dive away and completely escape or you have to fight and defeat them twice at two different bands of altitude. This takes too long and you can bet the other one is screaming on comms for help the whole time. Often I don't even bother climbing much at all to prevent this, but that denies you climbing away from a gang attack because there are always higher cons.



Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: shiv on July 05, 2012, 11:22:19 AM
being mister nice guy



the huge gangs that show no respect or honor in a game....have pushed me....I am done

so I hereby rescind my policy of no vulching......... no ganging........ no Hoing........ not flying the uberist rides...

so when you see me in the 16...LA7...K4...262.....51D.. .....look around you at the huge hoard of green guys that will do ANYTHING to "win" GANG a guy 10-15 on 1...60 plus on 1 field......you will know why.


if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA  :aok

The important thing is to have fun.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Noir on July 05, 2012, 11:27:57 AM
the hayate is a fine lone hunting plane, as he can run away from a part of the planeset, and outturn the rest. Combine that with above average hit points, you have a solid contender.

Its just not very good to bnz over large spaces, but you can't have everything  :D
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Alky on July 05, 2012, 12:26:09 PM
if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA
No such thing as a fair fight in war, not even a cartoon war!!   :rock
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Debrody on July 05, 2012, 12:35:34 PM
No such thing as a fair fight in war, not even a cartoon war!!   :rock
sure there is, just find the right person to play with
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Babalonian on July 05, 2012, 01:23:42 PM
Welcome to the dark side.  Everyone reaches the point where they simply accept the fact that the Main Arena is a free for all.  Anything goes, anything can and will happen, and when you first stop caring how anyone else plays or what anyone else does, you can finally log in and fully enjoy the game for what it is.

Structure?  Special events. FSO, Scenarios, Snapshots, KOTH any number of regularly scheduled events each having a different level of immersion and restrictions.

You are on your own in the Mains, no one will ever play how you want them to play or expect them to play. To have an imaginary expectation of what people will say or do will never turn out well and will always disappoint you.  If a group gets together to defend the kingdom from the horde, Great!!  If not, no lost sleep here, simply don't care. The map will reset and all that territory lost will be recovered.   I shoot someone and they don't like the way I shot them, who cares, I was shooting them not inviting them over for thanksgiving dinner.  If I was concerned about what they might say or think about me, I wouldn't have my fragile little ego up in the virtual sky playing with guns.  Game has 2 levels, pleasant or irrelevant.  The negative wasted BS just isn't worth the little time I get to actually play so it doesn't get my attention.

I hate surprises.  If I expect someone to face shoot me, or ram me, or bomb my GV, or pork my base, or any number of things that will spoil my flight I will work tirelessly to avoid those situations.  Then, when it doesn't happen, I'll be surprised and pleased, and never disappointed in someone's actions again.

THIS.

He has been broken!
(http://www.extrapackofpeanuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Dr.-Evil-10-Million-Mile-Challenge3.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Midway on July 05, 2012, 01:30:37 PM
THIS.

He has been broken!
(http://www.extrapackofpeanuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Dr.-Evil-10-Million-Mile-Challenge3.jpg)

but he is honest.  <3 Ink and a big :salute for a man of integrity and honesty.

 :rock
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: nrshida on July 05, 2012, 01:31:39 PM
the hayate is a fine lone hunting plane,


How would you know?  :neener: :lol



as he can run away from a part of the planeset, and outturn the rest. Combine that with above average hit points, you have a solid contender.

Its just not very good to bnz over large spaces, but you can't have everything  :D




In theory yes, plus the energy building capability it is an outstanding aircraft. These assets are considerably diminished however when you have to face a gang of mixed aircraft. A decent turner and a decent BnZer tag-teaming the lone Hayate pilot means he cannot outclimb, nor outrun nor outmanoeuvre for more than several seconds, you have to overcome the sum of the parts. And that's just with two. Within minutes it is three, and four and five and so on because it is a manoeuvring fighter, not a travelling fighter, like your chosen ride is for example.

Do you see my point?


Danny's point earlier is also pertinent. Sometimes on CET the only fight available is one which is not in your favour. The other day we fought three N1Ks who where fighting at altitude above their base. Once they got in trouble, they showed a clean set of seven, I think it was, Split-S, looking each time to pull nose to nose for the HO or otherwise to spiral descent right into their ack. Of course they set it up that way but we were fed up with looking for people to fight so took what we could. Didn't end well for us of course, Danny fish shoes got smoked  :lol




Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: katanaso on July 05, 2012, 01:57:42 PM
sure there is, just find the right person to play with

Agreed.  I have numerous 'fair' fights nearly every time I log on and play.  They're just a small minority of the fights though. :)


Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: mechanic on July 05, 2012, 01:57:49 PM
Well done Ink, you have finally got over the silly martyr complex that seems to affect so many good sticks in the MA.

Prepare to enjoy the game a lot more.

S!
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: nrshida on July 05, 2012, 02:56:50 PM
I don't know if I agree this is a good thing. I don't really know Ink. I've had a few PMs with him, only ever seen him once in game and we were coincidentally on the same country. However I do identify with his mission since I think we have that in common. I know people like bustr tend to label it as 'elitism', and others as 'boastful' or 'egotistical' but I don't think it's any of those things. I think Ink and those like him basically believe that an individual using superior ACM and skill can outweigh two or more players who are more 'result centred' who tend to employ a low risk high advantage approach, and then he proceeds to go out there every time he flies to illustrate his belief by engaging at a disadvantage, fighting to the inevitable end and then also sometimes weathering the derision of those that brought him down by fair means or foul.

Respectfully Batty, I think having a martyr complex is slightly different: if you sort of go about that but then constantly moan about it or use it to get some other kind of acknowledgement.

Of course what Ink-like players do can become extremely frustrating, especially over time as the little 'fouls' add up.


All I'm saying is that I think it is a shame if Ink totally gives up on his main activity and essentially joins the herd of uber fast ride hit and run fighters. I think it would be a great loss (actually, I'm not sure it's in his nature to achieve it anyway, and that is further to his credit).




Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 05, 2012, 03:05:27 PM
I would love to see vINK.  I mean in for a penny in for a pound ya know what I mean Ink? Abandon priniples you hold dear you migth as well go all in.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: lunatic1 on July 05, 2012, 05:29:20 PM
wearing clothes when playing this game eeewwwwwwwwww..lol
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Midway on July 05, 2012, 05:30:45 PM
I would love to see vINK.  I mean in for a penny in for a pound ya know what I mean Ink? Abandon priniples you hold dear you migth as well go all in.

vINKy! :lol
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Slash27 on July 05, 2012, 05:36:54 PM
I don't know if I agree this is a good thing. I don't really know Ink. I've had a few PMs with him, only ever seen him once in game and we were coincidentally on the same country. However I do identify with his mission since I think we have that in common. I know people like bustr tend to label it as 'elitism', and others as 'boastful' or 'egotistical' but I don't think it's any of those things. I think Ink and those like him basically believe that an individual using superior ACM and skill can outweigh two or more players who are more 'result centred' who tend to employ a low risk high advantage approach, and then he proceeds to go out there every time he flies to illustrate his belief by engaging at a disadvantage, fighting to the inevitable end and then also sometimes weathering the derision of those that brought him down by fair means or foul.

Respectfully Batty, I think having a martyr complex is slightly different: if you sort of go about that but then constantly moan about it or use it to get some other kind of acknowledgement.

Of course what Ink-like players do can become extremely frustrating, especially over time as the little 'fouls' add up.


All I'm saying is that I think it is a shame if Ink totally gives up on his main activity and essentially joins the herd of uber fast ride hit and run fighters. I think it would be a great loss (actually, I'm not sure it's in his nature to achieve it anyway, and that is further to his credit).





:salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: hellwolf on July 05, 2012, 05:38:44 PM
Move to midwar ink, its everything your looking for.  I swaped last tour and am having a blast.  You can get that 1v1, you wont be jumped by a 262 la7 etc and the guys in there have a good friendly rivalry going.  With 10- 20 more players each day like yourself it could be the happening place.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: james on July 05, 2012, 06:07:03 PM
INK i've seen you go against 5 in a KI-84 and come out the winner. Not just once. You made it look effortless as well. <S> man and just don't let anyone steal your fun from you sir!

 :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Oldman731 on July 05, 2012, 07:25:18 PM
Move to midwar ink


Or AvA.  Would be good to meet you.

- oldman
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: mechanic on July 05, 2012, 07:44:48 PM
I don't know if I agree this is a good thing. I don't really know Ink. I've had a few PMs with him, only ever seen him once in game and we were coincidentally on the same country. However I do identify with his mission since I think we have that in common. I know people like bustr tend to label it as 'elitism', and others as 'boastful' or 'egotistical' but I don't think it's any of those things. I think Ink and those like him basically believe that an individual using superior ACM and skill can outweigh two or more players who are more 'result centred' who tend to employ a low risk high advantage approach, and then he proceeds to go out there every time he flies to illustrate his belief by engaging at a disadvantage, fighting to the inevitable end and then also sometimes weathering the derision of those that brought him down by fair means or foul.

Respectfully Batty, I think having a martyr complex is slightly different: if you sort of go about that but then constantly moan about it or use it to get some other kind of acknowledgement.

Of course what Ink-like players do can become extremely frustrating, especially over time as the little 'fouls' add up.


All I'm saying is that I think it is a shame if Ink totally gives up on his main activity and essentially joins the herd of uber fast ride hit and run fighters. I think it would be a great loss (actually, I'm not sure it's in his nature to achieve it anyway, and that is further to his credit).







 All good points Shida, well stated. The martyr complex as I intend it to be taken is that of being at a disadvantage, be it plane type or flight planning, and thinking it makes one's self somehow so much more valuable to the 'gameplay' at such great personal sacrifice. Fly at a disadvantage if you choose but surely it doesn't take a degree to work out the flaw in the philosophy of expecting everyone to fly at a disadvantage also. If everyone flew the same there would be no disadvantage.

 Now in Ink's case I believe he has just hit a rough patch and needed to rant about it. Perhaps nothing will change for him. then again perhaps everything will and he will learn to enjoy the main arena in new ways. He is hardly the first person to decide to always fly at a disadvantage and practice cunning ACMs at all times. He would also not be the first to realise that there is more to the game than that. Now perhaps he will find new facets, yet still have his old style to fall back on from time to time. If we eat icecream all day it eventually loses it's joy. The trick is to eat lots of different nice things so that when we have icecream it is enjoyable to it's full potential.

 If Ink does start flying around in a dora and picking people out of furballs then I see it as a positive thing. This gives the opportunity for a different player to take Ink's role as the disadvantaged flying ninja. Without the dora picker there would be no disadvantaged ninjas showing everyone how much cooler they are than sliced bread with their pixel manipulation skills.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 05, 2012, 07:47:40 PM

Or AvA.  Would be good to meet you.

- oldman

+1 Ava is a different animal for MA some good fights in there and the community gets along for the most part/
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Butcher on July 05, 2012, 08:01:00 PM
AVA is great if it can drum up a few more people, think the quality is much higher in terms of players is what caught my eye few years back.

I rather have one or two good small fights then go in the MA to watch 60 take a base vs 2 defenders.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 05, 2012, 08:05:26 PM
I truly appreciate the words from some of you guys...I see now that maybe I have been wrong in thinking I have not influenced some to a better game.....

to be perfectly honest I am frustrated with the "win" at all cost no Honor game play...people actually laugh when I bring up Honor...I don't understand that...ya.... so its a game...so is chess but you should still play chess with Honor...at least I do....

so NO I will not be joining the Hoard....I will hang up my stick before I do that....(so NO midway you will never see me with a V in front of my name :old:)

I love Aces High...... it is by far the greatest game I have ever played...Thank you HTC :salute...I must do something though...and the only thing I can think of  is grabbing a better plane to fight the hoard....

no I don't bomb....no I don't GV........fighter mode for me......call me simple I don't care... I am a simple man...I just want a fight where no one really dies or gets hurt.....where people still hold Honor above "winning" and actually fight in a combat game.


now I am gonna address the others.....never have I said I am a "martyr".......never have I said I am the bestest or coolest....do I know I am good?....ya I know I am...... I also have fought for 7 years to get as good as I am....do I want to be the best I can be....... Absolutely......am I the best?   not  hardly......will I strive to be the best....I will as long as I am alive.....

so NO you will not see me in a 190 picking furballs...you may see me in a 190/spit over the biggest red gang and attacking them relentlessly...until I die or I kill them all.

I would not worry to much my aim is about as good as a 2 week noobs :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: mechanic on July 05, 2012, 08:25:38 PM
Your first post here was very martyr orientated sir. If you are purely going to change your gameplay for yourself then why do you even need to make a thread about it?

I'm done being mister nice guy

who were you being mister nice guy for? if it was for everyone else then you were considering yourself a martyr. If it was for you then why would you suddenly not want to do it for yourself anymore?



Quote
the huge gangs that show no respect or honor in a game....have pushed me....I am done

so I hereby rescind my policy of no vulching......... no ganging........ no Hoing........ not flying the uberist rides...

so when you see me in the 16...LA7...K4...262.....51D.. .....look around you at the huge hoard of green guys that will do ANYTHING to "win" GANG a guy 10-15 on 1...60 plus on 1 field......you will know why.

Again, every indication in your communication here suggests your have been acting for the benefit of others and now you are going to act just for yourself. If you do not ho, vulch or gang for your own enjoyment then surely you will carry on not doing that.


Quote
if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA  :aok

that would be fun, I would enjoy that

But you are here very strongly insinuating that anyone wants a 'fair fight' in the MA. And again that you were only offering said'fair fights' for the benefit of others. If you enjoy fair fights in the MA then you would keep offering them yourself, for yourself.

So whatever you take my couple of posts in this thread to mean, and I do say this with a high degree of respect for you, you are coming off as a martyr in this thread.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 05, 2012, 08:36:44 PM
Your first post here was very martyr orientated sir. If you are purely going to change your gameplay for yourself then why do you even need to make a thread about it?

who were you being mister nice guy for? if it was for everyone else then you were considering yourself a martyr. If it was for you then why would you suddenly not want to do it for yourself anymore?



Again, every indication in your communication here suggests your have been acting for the benefit of others and now you are going to act just for yourself. If you do not ho, vulch or gang for your own enjoyment then surely you will carry on not doing that.


that would be fun, I would enjoy that

But you are here very strongly incinuating that anyone want's a 'fair fight' in the MA. And again that you were only offering said'fair fights' for the benefit of others. If you enjoy fair fights in the MA then you would keep offering them yourself, for yourself.

So whatever you take my couple of posts in this thread to mean, and I do say this with a high degree of respect for you, you are coming off as a martyr in this thread.

I fly the way I do(dont gang.... vulch ect) because that's just how I am as a person.... I don't want to win with a stacked deck so to speak.........I started this thread because there are some people who I respect highly in this game and want them to know why all of a sudden I will be in a uber ride...basically that's all I am gonna change...flying around in a spit16 ect ect is like racing in a vet when everyone else is in a chevette.......so when I come across a single con if I am in a spit and they die....I will gladly go to the DA.....

simple as that really

Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: mechanic on July 05, 2012, 08:55:50 PM
If you think it will make the game more fun for you, go for it. I think that you don't fly those planes in the first place because you don't find it fun.

 :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Canspec on July 05, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
Ink, you've always been a good stick and a good fight......doesn't matter what you fly, you will still be a fun fight... :old:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: zack1234 on July 05, 2012, 11:54:58 PM
So my analysis of footwear is some what invalid? :cry
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Ruah on July 06, 2012, 12:46:53 AM

In theory yes, plus the energy building capability it is an outstanding aircraft. These assets are considerably diminished however when you have to face a gang of mixed aircraft. A decent turner and a decent BnZer tag-teaming the lone Hayate pilot means he cannot outclimb, nor outrun nor outmanoeuvre for more than several seconds, you have to overcome the sum of the parts. And that's just with two. Within minutes it is three, and four and five and so on because it is a manoeuvring fighter, not a travelling fighter, like your chosen ride is for example.


this is key -

I am confident I can be a challenge to anyone since or even 2 sticks in a KI84. . . but once you plant in a ki, you have to either win or die.  That is why, dispite my already mounting anger over radiator hits (I get one every 3 sorties), I fly the K4 because it has the power to extend or pursue a runner - and in a multi con fight or in the MA where 51, D9 and 47Ms seem to be everywhere, I long for a plane that can push when I need to.  KI is brilliant, but the K4 is just a pure monster and can dictate the fight (initiative is key to controlling a flight, and the KI surrenders initiative a lot, which makes it fun, but also dependent on the opponent wanting to fight you. . .)

So inks whole move away from the KI into more 'uber' rides (and I consider the k4 to be an uber ride next to the KI) is understandable. 

I still however don't HO (unless they pull first and I have no choice <top of a climb, bottom of a dive, no e left to dodge and they start shooting at me>), I can't really vulch (I have tried and I suck at it. . .) and picking is just someone having more alt then someone else.

/end rant
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 06, 2012, 01:29:23 AM
Ink, you've always been a good stick and a good fight......doesn't matter what you fly, you will still be a fun fight... :old:

Thank ya :salute

this is key -

I am confident I can be a challenge to anyone since or even 2 sticks in a KI84. . . but once you plant in a ki, you have to either win or die.  That is why, dispite my already mounting anger over radiator hits (I get one every 3 sorties), I fly the K4 because it has the power to extend or pursue a runner - and in a multi con fight or in the MA where 51, D9 and 47Ms seem to be everywhere, I long for a plane that can push when I need to.  KI is brilliant, but the K4 is just a pure monster and can dictate the fight (initiative is key to controlling a flight, and the KI surrenders initiative a lot, which makes it fun, but also dependent on the opponent wanting to fight you. . .)

So inks whole move away from the KI into more 'uber' rides (and I consider the k4 to be an uber ride next to the KI) is understandable. 

I still however don't HO (unless they pull first and I have no choice <top of a climb, bottom of a dive, no e left to dodge and they start shooting at me>), I can't really vulch (I have tried and I suck at it. . .) and picking is just someone having more alt then someone else.

/end rant

 :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: nrshida on July 06, 2012, 01:34:38 AM
Vulching is a mortal sin and we all know it. Those that vulch go to pixel hell, where their little cartoon bodies are stretched out like rubber bands and used to floss Satan's fiery arse crack the night after a particularly hot Arctic Moose Vindaloo.

Consider your ways vulchers  :old:

Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: zack1234 on July 06, 2012, 03:06:41 AM
Fiery arse crack :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Botts and Plops are the basis of european culture :old:

In regards to INK to being a good egg I am not sure :old:

Last week i caught him looking at me in a unsavoury manner :cry
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Chalenge on July 06, 2012, 04:43:29 AM
Vulching is the pretty blonde in the room with big bazooms!

There are no uber rides. There are aircraft that have double-superiority in some situations.

Any dweeb can kill any vet on any given day. They may not but it can happen.

Hordes are natures way of showing us where the easy kills are.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: danny76 on July 06, 2012, 07:18:16 AM
Vulching is a mortal sin and we all know it. Those that vulch go to pixel hell, where their little cartoon bodies are stretched out like rubber bands and used to floss Satan's fiery arse crack the night after a particularly hot Arctic Moose Vindaloo.

Consider your ways vulchers  :old:



 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: dhyran on July 06, 2012, 07:41:19 AM

 All good points Shida, well stated. The martyr complex as I intend it to be taken is that of being at a disadvantage, be it plane type or flight planning, and thinking it makes one's self somehow so much more valuable to the 'gameplay' at such great personal sacrifice. Fly at a disadvantage if you choose but surely it doesn't take a degree to work out the flaw in the philosophy of expecting everyone to fly at a disadvantage also. If everyone flew the same there would be no disadvantage.

 Now in Ink's case I believe he has just hit a rough patch and needed to rant about it. Perhaps nothing will change for him. then again perhaps everything will and he will learn to enjoy the main arena in new ways. He is hardly the first person to decide to always fly at a disadvantage and practice cunning ACMs at all times. He would also not be the first to realise that there is more to the game than that. Now perhaps he will find new facets, yet still have his old style to fall back on from time to time. If we eat icecream all day it eventually loses it's joy. The trick is to eat lots of different nice things so that when we have icecream it is enjoyable to it's full potential.

 If Ink does start flying around in a dora and picking people out of furballs then I see it as a positive thing. This gives the opportunity for a different player to take Ink's role as the disadvantaged flying ninja. Without the dora picker there would be no disadvantaged ninjas showing everyone how much cooler they are than sliced bread with their pixel manipulation skills.

100%!  :aok
i say, don't expect anything at the MA, just enjoy your way to play!
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: zack1234 on July 06, 2012, 07:48:37 AM
How's it in Finland Dhyran?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: dhyran on July 06, 2012, 08:25:17 AM
How's it in Finland Dhyran?

Ask next week again, then i am in greece.....
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: zack1234 on July 06, 2012, 08:26:21 AM
Hurrah!  :rofl

I have good time :)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 06, 2012, 01:25:31 PM
Fiery arse crack :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Botts and Plops are the basis of european culture :old:

In regards to INK to being a good egg I am not sure :old:

Last week i caught him looking at me in a unsavoury manner :cry

 :rofl
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 01:31:38 PM
Well heres the challenge why dont all you studs that are tired of  the  unwashed masses in the MA  try the AVA for a week?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 06, 2012, 01:34:23 PM
Well heres the challenge why dont all you studs that are tired of  the  unwashed masses in the MA  try the AVA for a week?

not very often you see people in there when I can fly
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 01:40:51 PM
not very often you see people in there when I can fly

Nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd. Why not set a time  and a day and get a feww folks in there? Some will like it some wont. You like the 1v1 right? rarely do I have to wait long before someone sees me in the AVA and comes in for a some fights, and we get some 1v1s on then more people sjoin becasue they se 2 in there next thing ya know youve got a good little fight going on in there.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 06, 2012, 01:52:24 PM
Nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd. Why not set a time  and a day and get a feww folks in there? Some will like it some wont. You like the 1v1 right? rarely do I have to wait long before someone sees me in the AVA and comes in for a some fights, and we get some 1v1s on then more people sjoin becasue they se 2 in there next thing ya know youve got a good little fight going on in there.

sounds like it would work....doesn't though....


ya I like a good 1vs1 but never have I said that's all that it should be.....I am an MA guy I love the variety the MA brings, (for the most part)

I actually don't like the "realistic" plane set as a daily flying sorta thing....I much more enjoy the free for all MA....and FSO (when I was in them)  was a great time, but I would not want that every time I fly.

Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Zoney on July 06, 2012, 01:57:23 PM
Well heres the challenge why dont all you studs that are tired of  the  unwashed masses in the MA  try the AVA for a week?

Been there done that.   The AVA regulars are considerably less than welcoming.  And hey that's ok, they got a tight little club there, as it is ok for me to decline.

I really like the idea of Axis vs Allies too.  That allows for just a bit more "pretend" I'm a fighter pilot.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: The Fugitive on July 06, 2012, 02:00:42 PM
100%!  :aok
i say, don't expect anything at the MA, just enjoy your way to play!

Ahhhhh, but what if picking lemmings out of the horde isn't my kind of play?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 02:06:03 PM
So basically I see nothing but girly man excuses for being afraid of the no Icon.


where is my  photoshoped pic of INK holding an Axe in a little bo peep outfit....

anyone interested in mixing it up a couple hours before FSO?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 06, 2012, 02:12:50 PM
So basically I see nothing but girly man excuses for being afraid of the no Icon.


where is my  photoshoped pic of INK holding an Axe in a little bo peep outfit....


 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 02:14:32 PM
Anyone wanna hop in tonight for a little but before fso?
 Prove they aren't a girly bopeep man afraid of no icon?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 06, 2012, 02:17:53 PM
Anyone wanna hop in tonight for a little but before fso?
 Prove they aren't a girly bopeep man afraid of no icon?

the night we had No icon battle inplace of FSO...I got more kills then both sides....no icons has nothing to do with it....and I thought they put icons back on?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Wiley on July 06, 2012, 02:29:21 PM
Anyone wanna hop in tonight for a little but before fso?
 Prove they aren't a girly bopeep man afraid of no icon?

 :rofl

Yes, because your video hardware and whatever settings you've turned on/off in specific combinations to give you the maximum ability to see other planes should be the main determining factor in your combat effectiveness.  :aok

This post I am replying to is a large part of the reason why AvA stands empty.

Wiley.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 06, 2012, 02:32:51 PM
So basically I see nothing but girly man excuses
Prove they aren't a girly bopeep man afraid of no icon?

This kind of stuff is one of the main reasons why I stopped visiting the AvA at all.

Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Shuffler on July 06, 2012, 02:38:45 PM
I loved no icons in AVA. It set the AVA apart from all other arenas. Unfortunately they decided to go back to icons and then try to copy other arenas.

Nothing new... been there done that.  :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Wiley on July 06, 2012, 02:42:38 PM
I loved no icons in AVA. It set the AVA apart from all other arenas. Unfortunately they decided to go back to icons and then try to copy other arenas.

Nothing new... been there done that.  :aok

That's one thing I never saw a reason for, was when they made it so the custom arena guys don't have the ability to go no icon.  I don't think the player numbers restriction on the custom arenas would be an issue, and it would give you guys the gameplay you desire.

Wiley.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Oldman731 on July 06, 2012, 02:53:24 PM
I loved no icons in AVA. It set the AVA apart from all other arenas. Unfortunately they decided to go back to icons and then try to copy other arenas.


I believe the arena is back to no enemy icons, short friendly icons.

HamHawk's playful enthusiasm probably shouldn't be taken as seriously as some are taking it.  His suggestion, and mine, were made because people were complaining about current MA play standards.  We thought you might like to try something else.  If you don't, you don't, easy as that. 

- oldman
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 06, 2012, 02:57:46 PM
HamHawk's playful enthusiasm

ahh, an "online persona" thing? ;)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Zoney on July 06, 2012, 03:06:08 PM
So basically I see nothing but girly man excuses for being afraid of the no Icon.


where is my  photoshoped pic of INK holding an Axe in a little bo peep outfit....

anyone interested in mixing it up a couple hours before FSO?

And there ya have it.  Empty arena.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Pand on July 06, 2012, 03:07:25 PM
Been there done that.   The AVA regulars are considerably less than welcoming.  And hey that's ok, they got a tight little club there, as it is ok for me to decline.

I really like the idea of Axis vs Allies too.  That allows for just a bit more "pretend" I'm a fighter pilot.
I found the opposite, we brought a few squaddies in there, split up the sides to even it out and had a blast.  All that were there were very welcoming.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: MrGeezer on July 06, 2012, 03:08:03 PM
First you blamed others for not playing the game in the "One True Way" supposidly you are the best example of in whole human race.

Now you blame the unwashed unworthy masses for forcing you to stain your soul and act your true self.

What next??

It's all of the unworthy unwashed masses faults for you breaking your arms patting yourself on the back this hard for being a superior form of life above them?

Seems you have covered the first 3 of 5 stages from self denial, to self delusion, along with outing the Aces High members of a 12 step narcasism neurosis recovery program.

At least now by being honest with yourselves and this community about enjoying the idea of slauthering the helpless masses you detest so much. Maybe you can enjoy the game for once and stop needing this forum as a way to fix your need to prey on them behind the canard of good natured abuse for their own good. Then Fugitive can get back to creating slightly more positive cartoons to describe the Aces High Community.



+1000
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:20:21 PM
the night we had No icon battle inplace of FSO...I got more kills then both sides....no icons has nothing to do with it....and I thought they put icons back on?

Icons off again, also  not in place of FSO  just something to  messaround with before doing FSO(for me anyway) and  most kills? Screenie or film or it never happened.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:23:36 PM
:rofl

Yes, because your video hardware and whatever settings you've turned on/off in specific combinations to give you the maximum ability to see other planes should be the main determining factor in your combat effectiveness.  :aok

This post I am replying to is a large part of the reason why AvA stands empty.

Wiley.



(http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f172/33960d1155710928-sector111-aluminum-brake-rotors-ordinary1.jpg)


Really? I had no problems finding people with my old system  on the verge of death before I spent 600 bucks total for  a system I put together myself that now handles the game on max.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:26:50 PM
This kind of stuff is one of the main reasons why I stopped visiting the AvA at all.

 :headscratch: and yet you come to the FORUMS all the time  and  see  stuff WAY worse than that. Also Pie chart yourself a sense of humor aand stop being a stick in the mud to most people that was obviously a playful chide.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 06, 2012, 03:33:14 PM
:headscratch: and yet you come to the FORUMS all the time  and  see  stuff WAY worse than that. Also Pie chart yourself a sense of humor aand stop being a stick in the mud to most people that was obviously a playful chide.


That's the same "fun" stuff I encountered there without end.
You step in and get insulted. You fight and win and get insulted. You lose and get insulted. You dare to fly a spit vs 4 "manly" 109s and your sexual identity and prefrence will be questioned for half an hour. Players are boasting prouldy how they did drive those "lame MA" players away.
All using exact the phrases you do. And obviously it's still the same spirit. What surprise.

Very funny and witty indeed..  :rolleyes:




Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:33:50 PM
And there ya have it.  Empty arena.

There we have what Zoney? A little playful taunt? You guy and your responses are the exact problem with this game everyone is soo  uptight and egomaniacal they  cant take any sort of gental teasing with bout blowing it completely of or propotion.  Especially with the crap you see on 200 in the MA


"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
--Albert Einstein

Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:35:21 PM

That's the same "fun" stuff I encountered there without end.
You step in and get insulted. You fight and win and get insulted. You lose and get insulted. You dare to fly a spit vs 4 "manly" 109s and your sexual identity and prefrence will be questioned for half an hour. Players are boasting prouldy how they did drive those "lame MA" players away.
All using exact the phrases you do. And obviously it's still the same spirit. What surprise.

Very funny and witty indeed..  :rolleyes:



Give me a break you cant seriously be THAT thin skinned.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 06, 2012, 03:36:42 PM
give me a break you cant be serious  you are actually upset about 'girly man'?

You simply don't get it...
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:38:56 PM
You simply don't get it...

I get it  any sort of teasing is too much for some people even something as non insulting and  well know as a by play as 'girly man' or you  cling to ANY excuse you can to not broden your horizons,  and would much rather  play in the MA  nightly and  whine about it daily on the BBS. I get it  perfectly fine.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 06, 2012, 03:39:58 PM
I get it  (...)

Obviously not.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Puma44 on July 06, 2012, 03:40:22 PM
I loved no icons in AVA. It set the AVA apart from all other arenas. Unfortunately they decided to go back to icons and then try to copy other arenas.
Not so.  Back to "no enemy icons".
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 06, 2012, 03:40:33 PM
whine about it daily on the BBS. I get it  perfectly fine.

Oh really, I do? Since when?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:41:24 PM
Obviously not.

Kool  :aok continue to down play anythuing different and for any excuse you can just as long as you  can be horde/antihore Mr. complain about the MA everyday and expect  it to change.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:43:13 PM
Oh really, I do? Since when?

Im sure you have a chart of it.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 06, 2012, 03:43:59 PM
Im sure you have a chart of it.


Oh please, show me my "daily whines" about the MA.

You are just making things up now. But that rather proves my point, thank you.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:47:55 PM

Oh please, show me my "daily whines" about the MA.

You are just making things up now. But that rather proves my point, thank you.

and what is your point you had a bad experience once and now completely overeact.  that statement is called a generalzation  you are obivious to any kinda of humor and immediatley go to the worse case scenario I'm sorry most people with a brain in their skull not eniterly commited to  charts and pie graphs would have realised that and not made a mouintain out of a molehill
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Wiley on July 06, 2012, 03:48:10 PM
Really? I had no problems finding people with my old system  on the verge of death before I spent 600 bucks total for  a system I put together myself that now handles the game on max.

Yup.  Really.  Quite often less is more when it comes to no icons.  Bigger dots/less details quite often makes it as easy or easier to find them.  Antialiasing, texture sizes, monitor quality and all kinds of other things can make it easier/harder to see that dot among the ground pixels.

Friend, I played no icons for years in the other sim.  I know exactly whereof I speak.  I'm sorry you think the ability to spot a dot equates to 'manly' or 'skilled'.

Wiley.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 06, 2012, 03:49:22 PM
and what is your point you had a bad experience once

incorrect
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Getback on July 06, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
They are huge! Here's how I figure it. Of a horde of 50; one wants to fight, 30 want to pick, 10 are saying please don't kill me, and 9 are asking how to select bombs.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:50:33 PM
incorrect
OK Kewl like I said go pie chart yourself a sense of humor.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Karnak on July 06, 2012, 03:50:47 PM
I'll back Lusche up on that.  The same kind of things drove me out of the CT, the prior name of the AvA.  And I didn't just give it a shot or two.  I was a member of the 27th Sentai and there at the very start of the CT/AvA to try and make it work.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Ruah on July 06, 2012, 03:51:17 PM
AvA is great fun. . .just need to get the 'leet' pilots to fly there and create a culture of AvA.  I am hoping that as MA gets worse and worse in terms of all the crappy gameplay, a few good pilots will put energy into the AvA and get a few of us to join in. . . but that is going to be tough.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 03:52:02 PM
I'll back Lusche up on that.  The same kind of things drove me out of the CT, the prior name of the AvA.  And I didn't just give it a shot or two.  I was a member of the 27th Sentai and there at the very start of the CT/AvA to try and make it work.

OK I have seen 1 or 2 guys  act like dbags  thats true but for the most part its way more laid back in there than the MA, when was the last time you tried it? Sorry if  the 'girly ma that I ment as a playful chide directly to INK offendeed you Lusche, but I really think you made a mountain out of a mole hill on that., and I challege you to make a piechart detailing the increas or decrease in MA whine threads in the past few year. I didnt mean YOU yourself have daily whine threads I meant to BBS in general. You chose to make everything about YOU directly.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Wiley on July 06, 2012, 03:56:57 PM
I didnt mean YOU yourself have daily whine threads I meant to BBS in general. You chose to make everything about YOU directly.

That may not be what you meant, but that was pretty much exactly what you wrote.  You might want to work on your clarity of communication.  :aok

Wiley.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: The Fugitive on July 06, 2012, 03:59:30 PM
To be honest, I haven't tried in awhile. When I was trying it out, I was getting HOed, and ganged. I figured why was I wasting what little time I get playing in there when I can get the same thing in the Mains, but have more targets. It just wasn't worth the trouble.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 04:03:15 PM
That may not be what you meant, but that was pretty much exactly what you wrote.  You might want to work on your clarity of communication.  :aok

Wiley.
once  Lusche piecharts himself a sense of humor  copy and paste it. Im done if you want too be this sensitive thats your problem,  I will continue to make  my lame little jokes . I failed to see exactly how thin skinned people actually are on this bbs. I apologize and for future reference most of the things I am gonna say is  going to be in a joking manner  its not my fault you guys  take it literly that must come with a hurt and  overblown EGO  :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
To be honest, I haven't tried in awhile. When I was trying it out, I was getting HOed, and ganged. I figured why was I wasting what little time I get playing in there when I can get the same thing in the Mains, but have more targets. It just wasn't worth the trouble.
Its not always gonna be 1v1's but  when asked people will stay out and of course ho's will happen from time to time  when you are flying 2 pretty equal planes  sometiumes its the only shot and some are going to take it  on the 3rd  head to head.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Oldman731 on July 06, 2012, 04:07:51 PM
To be honest, I haven't tried in awhile.


I believe that's true of most of the people complaining about it.

Hey, can't hurt to stop by.

- oldman
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Karnak on July 06, 2012, 04:07:56 PM
OK I have seen 1 or 2 guys  act like dbags  thats true but for the most part its way more laid back in there than the MA, when was the last time you tried it? Sorry if  the 'girly ma that I ment as a playful chide directly to INK offendeed you Lusche, but I really think you made a mountain out of a mole hill on that., and I challege you to make a piechart detailing the increas or decrease in MA whine threads in the past few year. I didnt mean YOU yourself have daily whine threads I meant to BBS in general. You chose to make everything about YOU directly.
The "elitist slobberdonkey" crap is way higher in the AvA.  A lot more judgmental about one's choice of aircraft than the already judgmental MAs.  I have also found the setups to be very biased in regards to what it an acceptable substitution with the only generally balance settings being USAAF vs Luftwaffe.  Other settings generally being intended to favor the USAAF, USN or Luftwaffe.  Inappropriate ubstitutions such as adding the Brewster against the Japanese, taking away their one performance advantage, or using the long retired Spitfire F.Mk IX in place of the Spitfire LF.Mk IXe when we have that very aircraft are all too common.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Wiley on July 06, 2012, 04:14:23 PM
The "elitist slobberdonkey" crap is way higher in the AvA.

2 things.  1) My experience as well, and  2) thank you for a phrase that has instantly made it into my personal verbal lexicon.

I failed to see exactly how thin skinned people actually are on this bbs. I apologize and for future reference most of the things I am gonna say is  going to be in a joking manner  its not my fault you guys  take it literly that must come with a hurt and  overblown EGO  :aok

Walk up to the next ~6'4" biker you don't know personally that you see on the street and tell him you think he'd look good in a little bo peep outfit.  Please have a friend video the results.

Wiley.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
The "elitist slobberdonkey" crap is way higher in the AvA.  A lot more judgmental about one's choice of aircraft than the already judgmental MAs.  I have also found the setups to be very biased in regards to what it an acceptable substitution with the only generally balance settings being USAAF vs Luftwaffe.  Other settings generally being intended to favor the USAAF, USN or Luftwaffe.  Inappropriate ubstitutions such as adding the Brewster against the Japanese, taking away their one performance advantage, or using the long retired Spitfire F.Mk IX in place of the Spitfire LF.Mk IXe when we have that very aircraft are all too common.

OK I see your point on the aircraft, but again the elietist part is what gets me are you tuned to 200 in the MA? When I first started flying the AVA aseveral months back I never got accused of picvking , or bomb****ing and If I accident;ly ramed someone I wasnt a ram tard. I apologized and was told it happens.  agen when was the Last time you went into the AVA? I think the attitude  is completly different. On the plane sets the subs happen becasue large holes in the planeset. I have seen you suggest subs on the ava
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 04:19:22 PM
2 things.  1) My experience as well, and  2) thank you for a phrase that has instantly made it into my personal verbal lexicon.

Walk up to the next ~6'4" biker you don't know personally that you see on the street and tell him you think he'd look good in a little bo peep outfit.  Please have a friend video the results.
Wiley.


LoL  Why would I video tape evidence that might be used against me in a court of law? Yet another completly asinie statement.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 06, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
OK I have seen 1 or 2 guys  act like dbags  thats true but for the most part its way more laid back in there than the MA, when was the last time you tried it? Sorry if  the 'girly ma that I ment as a playful chide directly to INK offendeed you Lusche, but I really think you made a mountain out of a mole hill on that., and I challege you to make a piechart detailing the increas or decrease in MA whine threads in the past few year. I didnt mean YOU yourself have daily whine threads I meant to BBS in general. You chose to make everything about YOU directly.

I didn't take what you said as offensive I knew you were just messin...

as far as film goes...my word is more then enough for anyone that knows me....it was a long time ago..... I flew as BUDO and wiped the floor with the competition.....

I already stated why I am not into the AVA...now if you wanna go to DA...I will have no problem teaching you how to catch bullets  :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: deadstikmac on July 06, 2012, 04:21:33 PM
As a spankin new stick too the game might I humbly suggest this be stickied and the title changed to "Code of Conduct a Gentleman's Ethical Viewpoint"

I had no idea some of the mentioned tactics were "of bad morals and ethics" which is funny... not ha ha funny. Alot of the time is spent just trying to keep one eye on the guy who is about to shoot me down and the other eye on my gauges. Everything I did was because of exploiting my lack of skill becomes prevelent the minute I get low and slow or overshoot all in an effort to save my own arse and learn how to contend with guys who have forgotten more than I have learned.

 Will I fly with my Squad Only... I wish but no its not the case. However when I'm alone and see the furball start instead of being part of the problem I want to conduct myself with a higher standard. So Sticky this thread because EVERY NEW STICK IN THE GAME needs to read this and learn from the vets!  In my humble oppion no trolling or sarcasms all real talk.

I Sir <S> you if you can manage to stay the path.

 :airplane:~<DeadStickMac

Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 04:25:05 PM
I didn't take what you said as offensive I knew you were just messin...

as far as film goes...my word is more then enough for anyone that knows me....it was a long time ago..... I flew as BUDO and wiped the floor with the competition.....

I already stated why I am not into the AVA...now if you wanna go to DA...I will have no problem teaching you how to catch bullets  :aok
You knowI know how to catch bullets just fine.  Maybe throw a little back.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: TheAssi on July 06, 2012, 04:29:17 PM
This thread is a little bit Micheal Stipe, and a little bit Billy Idol.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 06, 2012, 04:32:29 PM
As a spankin new stick too the game might I humbly suggest this be stickied and the title changed to "Code of Conduct a Gentalmans Ethical Viewpoint"

I had no idea some of the mentioned tactics were "of bad morals and ethics" which is funny... not haha funny. Alot of the time is spent just trying to keep one eye on the guy who is about to shoot me down and the other eye on my gauges. Everything I did was because of exploiting my lack of skill becomes prevelent the minute I get low and slow or overshoo. All to save my own arse and learn how to contend with guys who have forgotten more than I have learned. Will I fly with my Squad Only... I wish but no its not the case. However when im alone and see the furball start instead of being part of the problem I want to conduct myself with a higher standard. So Stickey this thread because EVERY NEW stick needs to read this and learn from the vets!  In my humble oppion no trolling or sarcasism all real talk.

I Sir <S> you if you can manage to stay the path.

 :airplane:~<DeadStickMac



for someone such as yourself being new....any thing you do in game(next to outright cheating)  is acceptable......most vets I believe have this same mentality..but the longer you are here the less lame type behaviors should be done....like just HOing or only staying in the gang.....nether of those will make you a better AH stick...no matter how man people tell you its cool or whatever excuse they come up with....IE its my 15$....yup it is your 15$ you have the right to fly how ever you want.....

I have the right to laugh at you and call your game play lame(not YOU directly just those that have been here awhile still doing the same dweeby stuff and making excuses up for it...the best is "well we did it in the real war")

deadstikmac    if you ever see me online (JETSOM ingame)  if you want.... ask me and we can go to the TA/DA   I enjoy taking newer guys and showing them how to fight.....it does make the learning curve way easier

have fun and I hope you enjoy this great game :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 04:34:40 PM
This thread is a little bit Micheal Stipe, and a little bit Billy Idol.

I feel old now I know who both these people are
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Karnak on July 06, 2012, 04:43:54 PM
2) thank you for a phrase that has instantly made it into my personal verbal lexicon.
You're welcome.  To the best of my knowledge, that term was coined by Shane.

Nathan60,

No, I don't tune to 200 in the MA.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Zoney on July 06, 2012, 04:45:24 PM
There we have what Zoney? A little playful taunt? You guy and your responses are the exact problem with this game  everyone is soo  uptight and egomaniacal they  cant take any sort of gental teasing with bout blowing it completely of or propotion.  Especially with the crap you see on 200 in the MA


"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
--Albert Einstein



OK, I kinda figured I was the problem in the game.


 :salute
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: coombz on July 06, 2012, 04:56:03 PM
and what is your point you had a bad experience once and now completely overeact.  that statement is called a generalzation  you are obivious to any kinda of humor and immediatley go to the worse case scenario I'm sorry most people with a brain in their skull not eniterly commited to  charts and pie graphs would have realised that and not made a mouintain out of a molehill

trying to read your posts makes the brain in my skull hurt  :huh
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 05:28:12 PM
OK, I kinda figured I was the problem in the game.


 :salute


Wag more bark less dude. Your posts do infact seem uptight to me. Loosen up  dont take the small things  to the next level. I'm assuming your a grown up  and have much larger problems  then 'girly man'.  Going straight to code red is not a healthy outlook on life
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 05:29:04 PM
trying to read your posts makes the brain in my skull hurt  :huh


Yeah when I go back and reread them I get the same exact feeling. It passes.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Nathan60 on July 06, 2012, 05:42:19 PM

Nathan60,
No, I don't tune to 200 in the MA.
OK fair enough IMO its way more laid back in the ava, your issue with the plane sets I cant comment about as I don't know whats a better sub for what.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: shiv on July 07, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
This thread is a little bit Micheal Stipe, and a little bit Billy Idol.

That, and it turns into a tidal wave of GIFs every other page.





(http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1878206_o.gif)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Changeup on July 08, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
being mister nice guy



the huge gangs that show no respect or honor in a game....have pushed me....I am done

so I hereby rescind my policy of no vulching......... no ganging........ no Hoing........ not flying the uberist rides...

so when you see me in the 16...LA7...K4...262.....51D.. .....look around you at the huge hoard of green guys that will do ANYTHING to "win" GANG a guy 10-15 on 1...60 plus on 1 field......you will know why.


if you want a "fair" fight from me ask me to the DA  :aok

It will be a bad day for the people to whom you speak when about 12 really tired-of-it guys decide to hit a horde.  I would like to see:

Corky, Grizz, INK, Bone, Dodger, Cactus, TC, Bruv, LilMak, JUGgler, Kappa, Fester, Ardy, Krup, and Redbull (actually put whatever list together you want of guys like these and there are a number of them I left out Bighorn, Batfink, Hlbly et al)....just one time in 51D's, Spixteens and LA7's against the horde....any freakin horde, pickers, and lame noobs alike.....the carnage would be ridiculous and the whining...oh lord the whining.  

14 vs 40....I will wager a 3 month subscription to AH that 4 make it back alive and land um....lol.  (because they would simply stay in it for the fight, lol)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Debrody on July 08, 2012, 11:28:11 AM
Who needs freakin La7s and spixteens...  just gimme a G6  :devil
Thats a good idea btw.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Changeup on July 08, 2012, 11:28:56 AM
Who needs freakin La7s and spixteens...  just gimme a G6  :devil
Thats a good idea btw.

It would be laughable...that's what it would be, lol
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: zack1234 on July 08, 2012, 12:37:25 PM
Who needs freakin La7s and spixteens...  just gimme a G6  :devil
Thats a good idea btw.

German planes are for girls
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Changeup on July 08, 2012, 01:46:15 PM
German planes are for girls

Girls with adams apples....just saying.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Reaper90 on July 08, 2012, 01:58:01 PM
Girls with adams apples....just saying.

Ughh... I just got a mental picture of Ru Paul in a K4.....  :uhoh

I'll keep my La-7 thankyouveryfrickinmuch.

Russian chicks are hot, by the way.  :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ROC on July 08, 2012, 02:06:41 PM
Quote
It will be a bad day for the people to whom you speak when about 12 really tired-of-it guys decide to hit a horde
 

That's the great thing about the free for all style of the main arenas.  There is no way to make one single type of game play that will appease everyone, however there are solutions for every complaint  :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Changeup on July 17, 2012, 06:55:24 PM
 

That's the great thing about the free for all style of the main arenas.  There is no way to make one single type of game play that will appease everyone, however there are solutions for every complaint  :aok


QFT
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: The Fugitive on July 17, 2012, 07:10:11 PM
 

That's the great thing about the free for all style of the main arenas.  There is no way to make one single type of game play that will appease everyone, however there are solutions for every complaint  :aok


I agreed that everyone should be able to try and play the game the way they want. Obviously everyone is NOT going to have a "card blanch" either. If a guy wants to milk run the strats all day in B29s odds are pretty good eventually someone is going to be around to try and shoot him down. However, I don't think there is a "solution to every complaint".

What is a "realistic" solution for the horde missions? I don't think it's realistic to expect a few guys to spend the few hours they have to play to do nothing but pork troops/ords along front line bases. Nor is it realistic to expect to have 10-12 guys to sit in the tower all night ready to scramble to defend an in coming attack. WHat is the "solution" to the horde missions?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 17, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
I agreed that everyone should be able to try and play the game the way they want. Obviously everyone is NOT going to have a "card blanch" either. If a guy wants to milk run the strats all day in B29s odds are pretty good eventually someone is going to be around to try and shoot him down. However, I don't think there is a "solution to every complaint".

What is a "realistic" solution for the horde missions? I don't think it's realistic to expect a few guys to spend the few hours they have to play to do nothing but pork troops/ords along front line bases. Nor is it realistic to expect to have 10-12 guys to sit in the tower all night ready to scramble to defend an in coming attack. WHat is the "solution" to the horde missions?


a good wingman in great planes...... :aok
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: mechanic on July 17, 2012, 07:27:33 PM
I agreed that everyone should be able to try and play the game the way they want. Obviously everyone is NOT going to have a "card blanch" either. If a guy wants to milk run the strats all day in B29s odds are pretty good eventually someone is going to be around to try and shoot him down. However, I don't think there is a "solution to every complaint".

What is a "realistic" solution for the horde missions? I don't think it's realistic to expect a few guys to spend the few hours they have to play to do nothing but pork troops/ords along front line bases. Nor is it realistic to expect to have 10-12 guys to sit in the tower all night ready to scramble to defend an in coming attack. WHat is the "solution" to the horde missions?


um....shoot them down.

Are they even a problem unless one values gaming real estate?
Big missions provide targets.
Targets improve gameplay for me.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ROC on July 17, 2012, 07:42:46 PM
I don't expect people to sit around and wait for a horde mission to launch before they do something about it.  The hordie guys have to sit around planning the missions, forming the mission, gather the players, do all the dirty work, then when they launch there is a pretty large dar bar that shows up announcing that there is trouble coming.

Example.  Last month.  Minding my own business, most of the rooks were doing the same, just going about their day.  I saw 2 dar bars launch way deep in the bad guys territory.  So, since I was getting in some air time on the D9 I'll be flying in the scenario, I filled up the tank, grabbed a drop, and headed out there.  I found a massive formation of bombers and escorts.  This took about 40 minutes for me to get there.  They were still 5 sectors out from our closest base.  I announced heading and alt.  No worries yet, just letting you all know type of thing.  I paced them, kept updating the alt, heading, and now it was becoming clear what their target was.  When it got close enough, the call went out to get ready and the rooks launched and intercepted the group.   Slaughtered the attack, negligible damage to the targets, few bad guys made it home.  Raid over, back to what everyone was doing.
Minimal interruption, got in some great furballs.  It doesn't take much effort, but no effort will solve nothing.  If someone simply doesn't want to do something about the horde, then the horde will simply continue on.  Bloody their nose often enough, and the groupies will grow tired of it.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: JOACH1M on July 17, 2012, 08:49:08 PM
I fly spits now. :banana:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: The Fugitive on July 17, 2012, 09:03:54 PM
Again, I'm talking realistic here, for an average player. Ink, Batty your both top notch cartoon pilots and would have no trouble downing half a dozen each with out breaking a sweat, but for most players that are average, and not so average they isn't much you can do. Given an hour to fly each night I could take one trip and shadow a horde.... not a lot of action, or fun. Milkrunners have a "solution", up a K4, or a jet...heck they even added "special" jets to counter them at the starts, but not hordes. If people want to horde, that's fine, but there should be a way to counter them, like everything else.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Midway on July 17, 2012, 09:05:38 PM
I fly spits now. :banana:

  :O :x :banana:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: crazyivan on July 18, 2012, 01:15:22 AM
I fly spits now. :banana:
  :O :x :banana:



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Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Slate on July 18, 2012, 10:51:50 AM
Again, I'm talking realistic here, for an average player. Ink, Batty your both top notch cartoon pilots and would have no trouble downing half a dozen each with out breaking a sweat, but for most players that are average, and not so average they isn't much you can do. Given an hour to fly each night I could take one trip and shadow a horde.... not a lot of action, or fun. Milkrunners have a "solution", up a K4, or a jet...heck they even added "special" jets to counter them at the starts, but not hordes. If people want to horde, that's fine, but there should be a way to counter them, like everything else.

  If HTC deems hordes a problem they could increase hardness of hangers and perhaps 5 min down time to allow some defense. Hordes seem to disable everything at the field so there is no resistance and no fight.
  It is a problem when only a few will disable front line ords. It stops a rolling horde in it's tracks every time. Maybe encourage ords porking with fighter perks.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: The Jekyll on July 29, 2012, 11:11:03 PM
another look at me thread

pfft
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Guppy35 on July 29, 2012, 11:33:41 PM
another look at me thread

pfft


A tad bit slow to the party are ya? :)
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: TheAssi on July 30, 2012, 01:34:07 AM
To be fair, some people's mail had to be examined by prison personnel.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: DrBone1 on July 30, 2012, 04:12:29 AM
To be fair, some people's mail had to be examined by prison personnel.
Hey guys look another ignorant FW lemming trying to troll.

Lets point and laugh.  :rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: DMGOD on July 30, 2012, 06:33:05 AM
I don't know, pointing and laughing at you is getting rather old.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Midway on July 30, 2012, 09:27:37 AM
I don't know, pointing and laughing at you is getting rather old.

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Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 30, 2012, 09:30:32 AM
Maybe encourage ords porking with fighter perks.  :headscratch:


Already happens.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Slate on July 30, 2012, 09:35:51 AM

Already happens.

  Attack mode only?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Lusche on July 30, 2012, 10:33:49 AM
 Attack mode only?


The modes are for scoring purposes only.
For everything you kiill or destroy you get perks in this game, regardless of scoring mode. And the primary type of your plane determines where they are going to. Fighters get fighter perks, bombers get bomber perks.

It's just that destryong 2 ord bunkers give you very little in perks ( zero point something), so it may go totally unnoticed when you also shoot down an enemy during the same sortie.
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: B4Buster on July 30, 2012, 10:37:51 AM


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 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 30, 2012, 10:49:17 AM
A tad bit slow to the party are ya? :)

slightly


To be fair, some people's mail had to be examined by prison personnel.



wow.......... I am amazed at your cleverness  :O
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: Slash27 on July 30, 2012, 11:01:56 AM
another look at me thread

pfft

As opposed to your look at me thread bump?
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: SWkiljoy on July 31, 2012, 07:20:32 PM
The shroud of the Dark Side has fallen, begun the INK transformation has.   :devil
Title: Re: I'm Done
Post by: ink on July 31, 2012, 10:30:17 PM
The shroud of the Dark Side has fallen, begun the INK transformation has.   :devil


 :lol