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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Mickthestick on July 29, 2012, 01:16:42 PM
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I currently have one of these, with a 26 inch barrel:
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=257 (http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=257)
It's very nice, and great to show off to people, but it's too heavy and too big to be of much use. I paid about $1600 for it, and have put less than 100 rounds through it. It's got a 12 power Nikon Monarch and a bipod mounted on it, both of which I'm going to keep for whatever I replace it with. The trigger is one of the best two-stage triggers I've ever encountered. Zero perceptible creep. It's advertised as a .75 MOA rifle. I've been able to substantiate this claim at the range at 100 yards.
My plan is to trade the rifle in for a .308 bolt action. I already have a Remington 700 with a 20 inch barrel, but want something else along the same lines, although with a full-length barrel. I prefer a synthetic stock and tactical style.
Like I said, I already have a good scope ready to go for it, so whatever I can get for the RRA I'll just put right back into the new one, adding only a set of rings to the cost, at most.
Was wondering if anyone has any ideas. I'm primarily going to be shooting targets with this thing, but would like the option of hunting with it too.
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if you are planning on a 500+ yard gun, I'd go with a 7mm mag or .338
for a .308 I personally like the FN A3 SPR (Spec. police rifle) altough it will run you 2900 (thats my local gun shop in southern california)
heres some info on it.
http://www.davidsonsinc.com/consumers/subsites/inven_product.asp?dealer_id=691494&item=75544&instock=all&manufact_combo=None&mod_ser_combo=None&category_combo=None&model=None&g_type=None&act_type=&finish_type=None&calib_combo=308&sight_class_combo=None&price_range=Over+%24750&left_handed=&youth=&Offset_rec=0&num_rec=100&item_num=
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I have a Sig Sauer SSG in 308 that is a tack driver..........not sure what you want to spend though
I agree with your statement about the RRA triggers.....they are just about perfection. The only better trigger ive ever felt is the custom Jaeger trigger i have on my Sako (.338 Lapua )
<edit> oops, sorry didnt read the whole post, Sig is more than 1300.
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Search at Davidson's, they have a couple of nice FNH rifles in your range, and a couple of Winchesters.
I like to get a good Winchester controlled round feed action and build my own. There are some great barrels out there. You could pick up a nice used rifle and have a company like E.R. Shaw install a barrel and tweak the action.
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I'm curious. Exactly what tacticool items do you want to have on your bolt action rifle? Are they there to enhance accuracy or just make the thing fit your idea of tacticool?
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I'm curious. Exactly what tacticool items do you want to have on your bolt action rifle? Are they there to enhance accuracy or just make the thing fit your idea of tacticool?
Nothing over the top. A bipod for comfort and convenience and that's about it. Here's a pic of my Remington to give you an idea. I'd be happy with this exact rifle, only with a full-length barrel.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w492/aukoyfman/IMG-20120627-00772.jpg)
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(http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv314/1911canebrake/long%20gun/BLR-Lt-Wt-81-Stainless-Takedown-MID-034015-l-1.jpg)
And with the savings......
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/blurr91/guns/Mosin-Nagant-Arm-5-people.jpg)
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(http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv314/1911canebrake/long%20gun/BLR-Lt-Wt-81-Stainless-Takedown-MID-034015-l-1.jpg)
And with the savings......
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/blurr91/guns/Mosin-Nagant-Arm-5-people.jpg)
Took care of the Nagant last year. 1943 Izhvesk:
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w492/aukoyfman/IMG-20120224-00605.jpg)
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(http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv314/1911canebrake/long%20gun/BLR-Lt-Wt-81-Stainless-Takedown-MID-034015-l-1.jpg)
And with the savings......
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/blurr91/guns/Mosin-Nagant-Arm-5-people.jpg)
:lol
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What about a 700 5R, as you already have a 700 and like it?
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What about a 700 5R, as you already have a 700 and like it?
Definitely a strong candidate. 700s are especially attractive to me because they're so common that parts and mods would never be an issue.
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Why don't you just buy a Douglas blank in 22" or 24" and have it mounted on your Remington? You should be able to do that for $500 or maybe less.
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I enjoy my Sig Sauer 30-06.
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Why don't you just buy a Douglas blank in 22" or 24" and have it mounted on your Remington? You should be able to do that for $500 or maybe less.
Well, I still got that spare Nikon Monarch burning a hole in my pocket. Plus empty space in the gun cabinet.
I was initially thinking about a different caliber, like 30 06 or 300 winmag, but I figured to stick to .308 in order to keep my ammo stores as simple as possible. A very serious gun nut/hunter friend of mine once told me that the most practical gun collection can contain any number of guns, but will stick to the most common calibers found in north America. 9mm for handguns, .223/5.56 for an intermediate cartridge, .308 for full power rifle, and, of course, 12 gauge and .22. Makes things easier if one has to scrounge for ammo in a pinch. With the exception of the Nagant, I've managed to adhere to this philosophy. Probably not forever though.
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Well, I still got that spare Nikon Monarch burning a hole in my pocket. Plus empty space in the gun cabinet.
I was initially thinking about a different caliber, like 30 06 or 300 winmag, but I figured to stick to .308 in order to keep my ammo stores as simple as possible. A very serious gun nut/hunter friend of mine once told me that the most practical gun collection can contain any number of guns, but will stick to the most common calibers found in north America. 9mm for handguns, .223/5.56 for an intermediate cartridge, .308 for full power rifle, and, of course, 12 gauge and .22. Makes things easier if one has to scrounge for ammo in a pinch. With the exception of the Nagant, I've managed to adhere to this philosophy. Probably not forever though.
I've got 22 guns. I probably regularly only shoot 7. 2 .308s,2 .45s,1 .22,1 12 gauge and 1 .223. the rest are occasional shooters like my original Winchester '73 and 41Mag
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Howa Ranchland perhaps? Nice light rifle, accurate as well.
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Well then you could always just go a custom gun route. Buy a Rem 700 action, a Douglas or McMillan blank and an after market stock. Have a 'smith fit cut the chamber and fit the barrel to the action, maybe tune the trigger or put on a Timney if you really want to be custom about it. That kind of rig should fit in your price range. The bipod is a pretty standard item, just attach to the forward sling post and go. If the stock is already pretty much fully inletted (assuming wood primarily) then glass bed it yourself with either a free floating or semi supported barrel. I think a fluted or semi tapered barrel will still give you good rigidity and lighter weight than a full bull barrel.
This really isn't much of a tough job for a good gunsmith and will get the rifle you want without having to go full price for a stock one then modify later on.
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Take some advice: You do not need to spend $1300 on a tacti-coolio 7.62 NATO bolt action rifle. You can spend less than $700 and you will have a rifle that will out perform your human deficiencies. Spend another $300-400 on a quality scope (no Tasco or other such substandard optics), and another $100 on cheap military surplus ammo for break in and rifle familiarization. Once you can *consistently* hit the center of the target out to 300 yards and you've had 1500 rounds through the rifle THEN you may step up if you think you need to. Otherwise you are wasting money.
Back in the summer of 1993 I bought a Savage 112FV in .223 Rem for a few pennies over $300. It is matte black with a smurfy synthetic stock with a HB25 Harris bipod underneath. I put a junk 6-24X Tasco on it (upgraded to a much nicer Simmons in 2003 or so) and since then have shot thousands of prairie dogs, a few dozen 'yotes, and countless paper targets. To this day I still out shoot guys with rifles that are 4-5 times more expensive than mine even by today's standard. Point being: you NOT look a price being the stamp of "quality". Be realistic and be smart. Until you claim nirvana with your rifle your rifle will out shoot you. :aok
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http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=535114220&index=4&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv= (http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=535114220&index=4&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=)
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=535135220&index=4&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv= (http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=535135220&index=4&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=)
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=535144220&index=4&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv= (http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=535144220&index=4&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=)
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=535143220&index=4&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv= (http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=535143220&index=4&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=)
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=75412&index=0&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv= (http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=75412&index=0&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=)
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=75416-FNM&index=0&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv= (http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=75416-FNM&index=0&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=)
http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=035202218&index=0&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv= (http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=035202218&index=0&mfg=All&mdl=All&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=)
One of those should probably fit your needs, and your budget.
You should know, however, that denying yourself rifle lover's heaven by not owning a 300 Winchester Magnum. I love both of mine.
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One of those should probably fit your needs, and your budget.
You should know, however, that denying yourself rifle lover's heaven by not owning a 300 Winchester Magnum. I love both of mine.
I might just not deny myself. Anyway, I'll find out tomorrow. Thanks for the links. Checked them all out. Good stuff.
And thanks to everyone else as well.
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(http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv314/1911canebrake/long%20gun/BLR-Lt-Wt-81-Stainless-Takedown-MID-034015-l-1.jpg)
And with the savings......
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/blurr91/guns/Mosin-Nagant-Arm-5-people.jpg)
That's a bunch I want to be around with a gun. Nice to see the guy in front with his rifle leaning back pointed at his buddy's head. :huh
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That's a bunch I want to be around with a gun. Nice to see the guy in front with his rifle leaning back pointed at his buddy's head. :huh
Thin the herd :lol
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Thin the herd :lol
Most often, the wrong people get shot.