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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Bodhi on September 12, 2012, 07:28:26 AM
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The US Ambassador to Libya along with 3 US Marines were killed yesterday, September 11th, in a planned attack against our embassy. Apparently he died of smoke inhalation from the fires started during the attack. It was not clear how the Marines were killed. The US Embassy in Egypt was also attacked. This is unbelievable that this was perpetrated over a video on Youtube.
I am stunned by the US response I have seen thus far....
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Keeping my eye on how this pans out.
Idiots couldn't even burn our flag properly, they had to rip it into pieces instead before flying their rag in it's place.
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I didn't think we had any US Marines there. I'm under the impression that it was the ambassador, private security, and staff that were killed. One story says that Ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed in a gun/rocket attack on his vehicle (as they fled the scene) and another says he died of smoke inhalation. Either way, it is a tragic event. May all rest in peace.
There is no excuse for this. None.
Though... one has to wonder what would have happened if there would have been a have dozen US marines on station with plenty of ammo, supplies, and a direct comm link to a US carrier stationed somewhere in the MTO. :aok
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I didn't think we had any US Marines there. I'm under the impression that it was the ambassador, private security, and staff that were killed. One story says that Ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed in a gun/rocket attack on his vehicle (as they fled the scene) and another says he died of smoke inhalation. Either way, it is a tragic event. May all rest in peace.
There is no excuse for this. None.
Though... one has to wonder what would have happened if there would have been a have dozen US marines on station with plenty of ammo, supplies, and a direct comm link to a US carrier stationed somewhere in the MTO. :aok
Marines are on the way, now...
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I guess the White House supported the wrong side in both those countries eh?
We are giving millions of Tax dollars to these radicals. WTG! :rolleyes:
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Well, back when the "Libyan Revolution" was all over the news..
I remember their rebel general on video, (a known Al Qaeda operative)
bragging about killing American troops.. Saying, how the Americans will
help us kill Qaddafi, then we will go back to killing Americans..
While US and NATO planes are flying airstrikes in support of them..
He was saying this right in the open, about the same time Panetta and the
Joint Chiefs were telling Congress that they did not need approval of
congress to make war.. They get their Authorization from the UN???
And the Prez, tellin us he doesn't need to follow the law in the Constitution!
I remember when people used to freak out, about the possibility of
terrorists getting "guided missiles".. Now the Black Al Qaeda flag is
flying in Libya Tunisia Egypt Syria.. Now they are running those
Governments and Militaries.. (not Syria yet) Now they have all the Guided
missiles they want.. Qaddafi just bought the newest euro SAM's too..
And we just rearmed Egypt, didn't we???
So now "Egyptian" M1 Abrams are rollin to Isreali border in the Sinai..
No wonder the Israelis are so happy with us right now huh???
So now they have American weapons too...
People were warning about this, but no one would listen..
Ole Qaddafi, is lookin pretty good about now, isn't he???
Gotta ask, just who is running the show in DC, huh???
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Graphic images taken at the scene show civilians making desperate attempts to pull the diplomat to safety. But their efforts were futile. Arab television station Al Jazeera today reported that Ambassador Stevens died of smoke inhalation.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2201780/US-ambassador-Christopher-Stevens-killed-attack-Libya.html#ixzz26GONGcFe (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2201780/US-ambassador-Christopher-Stevens-killed-attack-Libya.html#ixzz26GONGcFe)
Right, a gun shot to back of the head is same as smoke inhalation.
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They were parading him in the street, per regional standards of riotous anti-American conduct. And of course US media isn't reporting it. And we now can't get our story straight as to if we're going to continue apologizing for some weirdo's movie that nobody saw yet was somehow an excuse to attack US embassies and kill an Ambassador, or use some slightly more critical words explaining why we're a bit miffed about the embassy attack.
Of course the media doesn't know how to report it because the govt hasn't told them how to report it. SecState Clinton's condemnation on the heels of the apology for forcing the rioters to attack the embassy certainly doesn't seem very official. Maybe the president will take some time during his Letterman appearance to explain if we are sorry or angry about it.
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I didn't think we had any US Marines there. I'm under the impression that it was the ambassador, private security, and staff that were killed. One story says that Ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed in a gun/rocket attack on his vehicle (as they fled the scene) and another says he died of smoke inhalation. Either way, it is a tragic event. May all rest in peace.
There is no excuse for this. None.
Though... one has to wonder what would have happened if there would have been a have dozen US marines on station with plenty of ammo, supplies, and a direct comm link to a US carrier stationed somewhere in the MTO. :aok
There are Marines at EVERY foreign embassy.
This hit home....You can bet the Marines there made them pay for every inch they took while trying to get to the embassy.
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Benchmark - Don't goto a country people are trying to get out off :old:
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Animals...
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There are Marines at EVERY foreign embassy.
This hit home....You can bet the Marines there made them pay for every inch they took while trying to get to the embassy.
You sure about that? http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/12/Where-Were-the-Marines (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/12/Where-Were-the-Marines)
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American government not very bright by any measure.
I would not even let one of them wash my truck. It would take them 8 months, cost millions, and be filthy when they said it was done.
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American government not very bright by any measure.
I would not even let one of them wash my truck. It would take them 8 months, cost millions, and be filthy when they said it was done.
LOL so true. You can't expect a bunch of lawyers know how to do anything. How come they can't screw in a lightbulb but can screw so many other things?
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There are those in power in the world, that WANT another world war..
They are setting us up for it, right now.. These are NOT COINCIDENCES..
This bizarre US foreign policy that has brought all this, is not stupidity..
NOBODY is that stupid.. They know EXACTLY what they are doing..
They are working to a plan..
In the old days, ship captains would crash their ship on the rocks
intentionally, so their accomplices could "salvage" (steal) the cargo..
And then cash in on the insurance too..
It was called WRECKING.. They are doing that to our whole country!
And it's working! This is not silly tinfoil hat garbage.. This is the real deal!
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There are those in power in the world, that WANT another world war..
They are setting us up for it, right now.. These are NOT COINCIDENCES..
This bizarre US foreign policy that has brought all this, is not stupidity..
NOBODY is that stupid.. They know EXACTLY what they are doing..
They are working to a plan..
In the old days, ship captains would crash their ship on the rocks
intentionally, so their accomplices could "salvage" (steal) the cargo..
And then cash in on the insurance too..
It was called WRECKING.. They are doing that to our whole country!
And it's working! This is not silly tinfoil hat garbage.. This is the real deal!
I don't know, that sounds pretty tin foil hat to me
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I don't know, that sounds pretty tin foil hat to me
it is...think he forgot his meds this morning.
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It's in the headlines all around ya, every day..
Some are just afraid to look at it.. I was blinded
to it too, until it jumped up and bit me on the rump..
Now I pay for my ignorance every day!
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What would Reagan do? :salute
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It's in the headlines all around ya, every day..
Some are just afraid to look at it.. I was blinded
to it too, until it jumped up and bit me on the rump..
Now I pay for my ignorance every day!
Wrong place for your conspiracy nonsense.
:salute To those who have lost their lives for their country
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Very, very sad that these people can be set off at the drop of a hat. I mean two coordinated attacks over a YouTube film? :(
:salute to those who have lost their lives, may they rest in peace. Prayers for their families, one can only imagine what they are going through right now.
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It's in the headlines all around ya, every day..
Some are just afraid to look at it.. I was blinded
to it too, until it jumped up and bit me on the rump..
Now I pay for my ignorance every day!
dude...take off the tinfoil hat and put down the crayons for a bit. anyone who has been paying attention since the 60s knows this isn't the first time crap like this has happened, and it won't be the last until everyone gets nuked back to the stone age. there is no way to stop them as long as the rest of the world operates under humanitarian rules.
and it's not always just our people who are the targets either. it all depends on who is smacking who around in the sandboxes, and right now it's the u.s. on point sending goat herders to their god. at one point it was the brits, then the russkies, etc...etc...etc... hell, those happy little rug huggers have killed more of their own in more countries than any army that has been sent to control them.
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What would Reagan do? :salute
Are you serious? Look up critical thinking and start practicing.
They're sending 50 marines there now. Maybe more later.
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dude...take off the tinfoil hat and put down the crayons for a bit. anyone who has been paying attention since the 60s knows this isn't the first time crap like this has happened, and it won't be the last until everyone gets nuked back to the stone age. there is no way to stop them as long as the rest of the world operates under humanitarian rules.
and it's not always just our people who are the targets either. it all depends on who is smacking who around in the sandboxes, and right now it's the u.s. on point sending goat herders to their god. at one point it was the brits, then the russkies, etc...etc...etc... hell, those happy little rug huggers have killed more of their own in more countries than any army that has been sent to control them.
Did you just say, "Dude"???
So I always ask the question now, who profits from this???
What have the results been? And who has benefited from it??
Seems that the Afghan Opium trade is booming again..
I suppose somebody is making money from that..
Was that worth the life of my child??
They tell us that we must fight the terrorists, because
they hate our freedom, and want to take our freedoms away..
But then our own govt uses the Threat of Terrorism to Restrict
the Constitutional rights of our own people anyway.. BUT, they
leave the borders open.. Give weapons to drug cartels..
LOL! Is that how we "Fight for Freedom" these days???
That isn't what I served.. Isn't what my son served and died for..
Seems like the Military industrial complex is cranking out
new DARPA Surveillance Tech like Crispycream Doughnuts..
To be used on our own people, in violation of the very
laws they claim to serve..
Is this what my child died fighting for, LIES and more LIES???
Manipulation deception betrayal??? Feeding some elitists
avarice for power and control? Betrayal of my own people?
That's all I see.. And to sit quietly and accept it, when I KNOW
IT IS WRONG AND DECEITFUL, that would make me a coward!
Can't do that! I owe too much for that..
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The terror industrial complex and prison industrial complex were nice additions to the military industrial complex.
Sooner or later it will be noticed that we have a political campaign industrial complex as well.
If charter schools and for profit colleges keep their pace of growth sooner or later expect to see an education industrial complex.
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Did you just say, "Dude"???
So I always ask the question now, who profits from this???
What have the results been? And who has benefited from it??
Seems that the Afghan Opium trade is booming again..
I suppose somebody is making money from that..
Was that worth the life of my child??
They tell us that we must fight the terrorists, because
they hate our freedom, and want to take our freedoms away..
But then our own govt uses the Threat of Terrorism to Restrict
the Constitutional rights of our own people anyway.. BUT, they
leave the borders open.. Give weapons to drug cartels..
LOL! Is that how we "Fight for Freedom" these days???
That isn't what I served.. Isn't what my son served and died for..
Seems like the Military industrial complex is cranking out
new DARPA Surveillance Tech like Crispycream Doughnuts..
To be used on our own people, in violation of the very
laws they claim to serve..
Is this what my child died fighting for, LIES and more LIES???
Manipulation deception betrayal??? Feeding some elitists
avarice for power and control? Betrayal of my own people?
That's all I see.. And to sit quietly and accept it, when I KNOW
IT IS WRONG AND DECEITFUL, that would make me a coward!
Can't do that! I owe too much for that..
lol, ya i said dude...you ever consider therapy?
don't sit there and act as if this is all something new. it's been happening in this country since it became an independent nation. your loss though tragic, was not the first nor wll it be the last and the reasons won't always be worthy of the lives lost, but it is the cost that many have and will pay to continue living as majority of the people in this country expect to live. you could become a politician and attempt to change the way things work, or you could change your citizenship, but the repetitive stuff you keep spouting just makes you appear to be no more than another section 8 waiting to be become a news headline.
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lol, ya i said dude...you ever consider therapy?
don't sit there and act as if this is all something new. it's been happening in this country since it became an independent nation. your loss though tragic, was not the first nor wll it be the last and the reasons won't always be worthy of the lives lost, but it is the cost that many have and will pay to continue living as majority of the people in this country expect to live. you could become a politician and attempt to change the way things work, or you could change your citizenship, but the repetitive stuff you keep spouting just makes you appear to be no more than another section 8 waiting to be become a news headline.
Well I'm here.. Not Hiding..
They can kill me any time they want..
That's what traitors do, murder their own!
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Well I'm here.. Not Hiding..
They can kill me any time they want..
That's what traitors do, murder their own!
Wow in this thread really? this is even too stupid for me.
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How rude of us to insult Mohammed. Thank you for invading sovereign US territory and killing our ambassador.
We deserved it.
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How rude of us to insult Mohammed. Thank you for invading sovereign US territory and killing our ambassador.
We deserved it.
lol, you know what international outrage would occur if americans did the same thing to the libyan ambassador in d.c.? hell our own government would have a manhunt for ever person involved.
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Did you just say, "Dude"???
Seems that the Afghan Opium trade is booming again..
I suppose somebody is making money from that..
Was that worth the life of my child??
Sorry you lost your child. He evidently thought it was worth it.
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lol, you know what international outrage would occur if americans did the same thing to the libyan ambassador in d.c.? hell our own government would have a manhunt for ever person involved.
thats becaus ewe are civilized
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thats becaus ewe are civilized
This is what a good friend of mine posted on Facebook in regards to the film.
I believe its irrelevant at to who made the film and what its message is. Two issues come to mind.
First is pointing the finger at the film, no matter how inflammatory it is, even just to mitigate the actions of those that attacked our embassies, is tantamount to pointing the finger at the seductive dress of a woman, to mitigate her rapists actions .
I'd also point out how people of other religions handle such situations.
Many in the Jewish community found Mel Gibson s movie " The Passion of the Christ" to be offensive. Those that did dealt with it by boycotting the movie, writing letters to the editor etc. Text books in many mid east Muslim countries teach that Jewish people are descendant from Apes (and not in the Darwin sense if you get my drift.) They name elementary schools honoring Terrorist, homicide bombers. No Jewish groups have stormed and set fire to the embassies and consulates or murdered the Ambassadors and diplomates of those Muslim countries.
Many in the Christian community are offended by art that shows the crucifix in a glass of urine, they write to their gov't representatives to request funding be cut off from the program that funded the project, they picketed and protested.
One of my favorite authors wrote a book called "Under the banner of Heaven" which was highly critical of the Mormon religion and church authorities. Mormons boycotted the book disputed its content etc. They did not put out a "hit" on the author.
Not one of those religions resorted to mass acts of violence. There will of course be individuals in any group that let their beliefs and passion over take their restraint and commit acts of violence, I believe the groups or religion to which those individuals affiliate usually condemn their actions.
So I have a real problem with blaming the film. To boot I don't think that I have heard anyone actually defend the film, say that they like it or otherwise. I have not seen it so I can't say.
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Technology being what it is these days ..
..all that is needed is GPS coords and murderers *can* get what they have earned.
In spades.
The days of long range aircraft delivery (Aardvarks, f'rinstance ..re: QaDaffy) are long past.
-Frank aka GE
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I like to think there are many more Libyans who are thankfull for the help they have been given than there are terrorists who want to destroy us.
Same goes for our other efforts around the world.
The guy with the gun has the most power, evil will always find a gun.
<S> American Service Men
we all need to eat, sleep, and love or we will all hate.
God bless those on the front lines.
:salute
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According to Turkish News, the Ambassador, Chris Stevens, did not die of "smoke inhalation" but rather wounds sustained during the attack which included RPG's and explosives.
The link to the news article: (be warned, there are graphic pictures)
http://www.nationalturk.com/en/american-ambassador-chris-stevens-killed-in-libya-protest-over-anti-islamic-movie-ridiculing-muhammad-25597
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Well, back when the "Libyan Revolution" was all over the news..
I remember their rebel general on video, (a known Al Qaeda operative)
bragging about killing American troops.. Saying, how the Americans will
help us kill Qaddafi, then we will go back to killing Americans..
While US and NATO planes are flying airstrikes in support of them..
He was saying this right in the open, about the same time Panetta and the
Joint Chiefs were telling Congress that they did not need approval of
congress to make war.. They get their Authorization from the UN???
And the Prez, tellin us he doesn't need to follow the law in the Constitution!
I remember when people used to freak out, about the possibility of
terrorists getting "guided missiles".. Now the Black Al Qaeda flag is
flying in Libya Tunisia Egypt Syria.. Now they are running those
Governments and Militaries.. (not Syria yet) Now they have all the Guided
missiles they want.. Qaddafi just bought the newest euro SAM's too..
And we just rearmed Egypt, didn't we???
So now "Egyptian" M1 Abrams are rollin to Isreali border in the Sinai..
No wonder the Israelis are so happy with us right now huh???
So now they have American weapons too...
People were warning about this, but no one would listen..
Ole Qaddafi, is lookin pretty good about now, isn't he???
Gotta ask, just who is running the show in DC, huh???
Kettle meet pot?...
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Damn Libyans :furious
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Why is this act not an act of war?! We need to just wipe these roaches out once and for all! :mad:
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Damn Libyans :furious
I think it has more to do with religion than a particular nationality. Just a guess.
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Where are the Islamist moderates condemning the barbarous acts carried out in Libya?
Quote from: RngFndr on Today at 08:30:05 AM
Well, back when the "Libyan Revolution" was all over the news..
I remember their rebel general on video, (a known Al Qaeda operative)
bragging about killing American troops.. Saying, how the Americans will
help us kill Qaddafi, then we will go back to killing Americans..
While US and NATO planes are flying airstrikes in support of them..
He was saying this right in the open, about the same time Panetta and the
Joint Chiefs were telling Congress that they did not need approval of
congress to make war.. They get their Authorization from the UN???
And the Prez, tellin us he doesn't need to follow the law in the Constitution!
I remember when people used to freak out, about the possibility of
terrorists getting "guided missiles".. Now the Black Al Qaeda flag is
flying in Libya Tunisia Egypt Syria.. Now they are running those
Governments and Militaries.. (not Syria yet) Now they have all the Guided
missiles they want.. Qaddafi just bought the newest euro SAM's too..
And we just rearmed Egypt, didn't we???
So now "Egyptian" M1 Abrams are rollin to Isreali border in the Sinai..
No wonder the Israelis are so happy with us right now huh???
So now they have American weapons too...
People were warning about this, but no one would listen..
Ole Qaddafi, is lookin pretty good about now, isn't he???
Gotta ask, just who is running the show in DC, huh???
RngFndr gets it.
Those that are asleep don't realize we are on the verge of WW3.
It's difficult to connect the dot's when all you are concerned about is what new "app' you just got and who is on "Dancing with the Swamp People" tonight. When the defecation finally hits the rotary air circulation device they will change their tune about "conspiracy theorys" and smugly claim they saw it coming all along.
Regards,
Sun
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Oh, Lordy.... yeah, our foreign relations are better now than they've ever been for the last 11-years, so clearly we've never been closer to WWIII than we are today?... :confused:
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Sorry you lost your child. He evidently thought it was worth it.
It was obviously worth it, terrorism has been defeated and the people of the Middle East have been freed from the yoke of oppressive regimes, right?
right
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Terrorism, like all evils, can never be defeated, only fought... in perpetuity. As for how people live in the Middle East... Who gives a [explicit].
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the way you guys are fighting it seems to be increasing the numbers of terrorists rather than reducing them ;)
I agree, who gives a crap about people in the middle east, they're the wrong religion and the wrong skin colour, we just need their oil :old:
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After this.....November will be interesting. It's been nice flying with you all.
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One Daisy Cutter dropped in the middle of that crowd would fix the problem. Then they would have an idea what retaliation looks like. :old:
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Ok, here's opinion.
The United States should start taking care of our own back yard, before we start telling other Nations how to live.
Were concerned as to who has what for guns.
I hear that Detroit/Lansing and Pontiac Michigan might have a few.
Disarm those fellas.
Not talking about folks that have earned the right to carry, or have a fire arm. So NRA, please don't flame.
Coogan
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the way you guys are fighting it seems to be increasing the numbers of terrorists rather than reducing them ;)
You guys?
You do realize your own country is also involved fighting the war on terrorism? 185 Million dollars as well as eight of your nation's finest young men.
(http://static.stuff.co.nz/1344663858/865/7461865_600x400.jpg)
Do you have sarcasm to offer the efforts of these brave gentlemen as well?
Or are you just the America bashing troll you appear to be?
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The fact that other countries have been dragged into America's pointless and unwinnable war on terror, and more people's lives wasted is something to be deeply regretted.
I am from the UK and blokes I know have been over to Iraq and Afghanistan, luckily they all came back or i'd have even more of an axe to grind. Not all the young men in the recent wars have been so fortunate as we all know.
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for spur of the moment news, try this guys level headed report
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/opinion/benotman-libya-attack/index.html
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This is an attack on an Embassy. Sovereign territory....
I would warrant wiping the place out.
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the way you guys are fighting it seems to be increasing the numbers of terrorists rather than reducing them ;)
I agree, who gives a crap about people in the middle east, they're the wrong religion and the wrong skin colour, we just need their oil :old:
"wrong religion and wrong skin color" ... You see, that's caring. I don't care, and I certainly don't need their oil... After all the country I live in is the second largest oil-exporting nation after Saudi Arabia. The people of the Middle East will have to find their own way in life. If they want to live under a theocratic dictatorship I really don't care. However if they become a threat then I'm all for killing them. That goes for any and all people for that matter.
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This is an attack on an Embassy. Sovereign territory....
I would warrant wiping the place out.
Despite popular belief, very few embassies are actually sovereign territory.
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United States is sending two fully armed Destroyers to Libya, not sure exactly what this amounts to other then a show of force - even though THEY know we won't fire off a shot.
/pointless I guess I dont understand the logic of this
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So we can just walk in and nab Julian Assange then?
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Has no one thought this might have something to do the anniversary of 9/11. A mob carry assault type weapons and RPGs looks more like a planned attack. Why was the consulate only attacked when the Ambassador was there?
The movie just happened to make the news a few days before.
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read the current news....now. hehe thats what they are saying
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Something about the communications officer that was also killed: http://themittani.com/news/rip-vile-rat
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Has no one thought this might have something to do the anniversary of 9/11. A mob carry assault type weapons and RPGs looks more like a planned attack. Why was the consulate only attacked when the Ambassador was there?
The movie just happened to make the news a few days before.
I'm sure that was supposed to be a poke in the eye.
Coogan
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I am from the UK and blokes I know have been over to Iraq and Afghanistan, luckily they all came back or i'd have even more of an axe to grind. Not all the young men in the recent wars have been so fortunate as we all know.
Some of us know more than others.
A picture of my son in rehab after returning from his second tour.
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/Johnvan52/Thomas1.jpg)
Here's a picture of him and myself at my daughter's wedding a year ago.
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/Johnvan52/DSC01344.jpg)
He's never whined or complained of his plight once, yet you think you have an axe to grind. :rolleyes:
The fact that you could make a quote like the one below knowing full well the father of the young man is question is involved in the discussion shows a
lack of both manners and simple respect.
It was obviously worth it, terrorism has been defeated and the people of the Middle East have been freed from the yoke of oppressive regimes, right?
right
So by all means grind your little axe while belittling the efforts of real men that stood and served.
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Something about the communications officer that was also killed: http://themittani.com/news/rip-vile-rat
thats intense.
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All this over a movie....I wonder what the Christians would've done happen if the Bible were burned and movie made about Jesus?
RIP and Godspeed :pray
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Your son is a very brave man Shifty.
:salute
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They were parading him in the street, per regional standards of riotous anti-American conduct. And of course US media isn't reporting it. And we now can't get our story straight as to if we're going to continue apologizing for some weirdo's movie that nobody saw yet was somehow an excuse to attack US embassies and kill an Ambassador, or use some slightly more critical words explaining why we're a bit miffed about the embassy attack.
Of course the media doesn't know how to report it because the govt hasn't told them how to report it. SecState Clinton's condemnation on the heels of the apology for forcing the rioters to attack the embassy certainly doesn't seem very official. Maybe the president will take some time during his Letterman appearance to explain if we are sorry or angry about it.
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I was not trying to belittle anyone's service, just highlighting the waste and ineffectiveness of foreign policy in the middle east
It's grand that you and your son can be proud, if it was my son I would be deeply angry but hey everyone is different
Edit: by the way fellows the American govt did not apologize for that weirdo's movie, if you actually read the statement issued you would know that. The statement simply said they do condone and never have condoned attacks on people's religious beliefs etc. That's not an apology, that's just distancing yourselves from the wackjobs :)
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So we can just walk in and nab Julian Assange then?
Yes... The British government considered it, but chose not to break the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations for this one guy.
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I was not trying to belittle anyone's service....
...It's grand that you and your son can be proud...
Things that make you go "hmmm."
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Ok, here's opinion.
The United States should start taking care of our own back yard, before we start telling other Nations how to live.
ya know, i heard that exact same thing in nearly every decade i've been alive. it has yet to happen...except for a few small 3rd world countries that didn't really matter.
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Once again, all I ever see Coombz do is talk bad about, or put down the US.
Why are you so Anti-American? Did the US deny you a Visa or something?
I've never seen you, in any post, say anything positive about my Country.
You seem, in most every post, be able to squeeze some kind of Anti-American rhetoric in.
I'm just trying to figure why.
If your Country had a National emergency, who do you think would be one of the first
to help, or offer assistance?
Everyone hates us, but who do the run to when they need something. :rolleyes:
Oz
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ya know, i heard that exact same thing in nearly every decade i've been alive. it has yet to happen...except for a few small 3rd world countries that didn't really matter.
Wish it would happen...
Coogan
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Once again, all I ever see Coombz do is talk bad about, or put down the US.
Why are you so Anti-American? Did the US deny you a Visa or something?
I've never seen you, in any post, say anything positive about my Country.
You seem, in most every post, be able to squeeze some kind of Anti-American rhetoric in.
I'm just trying to figure why.
If your Country had a National emergency, who do you think would be one of the first
to help, or offer assistance?
Everyone hates us, but who do the run to when they need something. :rolleyes:
Oz
I said a few nice things about America and Americans in the gun control thread yesterday :D I have quite a lot of American friends both in real life and online. America is one of my absolute favourite holiday destinations and I have great memories of some of the times I've spent there.
I'm not anti-American but a lot of the things you guys come out with on the internet rub me the wrong way, especially on this forum, which as previously noted seems to be mostly populated by the worst kind of American stereotypes
I just can't help but argue and poke fun when i see that kind of stuff, it's a character flaw :]
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You sure about that? http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/12/Where-Were-the-Marines (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/12/Where-Were-the-Marines)
He said he was surprised Marines were there. Marines died there. I am surprised at the small amount but get this.
"team of U.S. Marines was being deployed to Libya to help secure U.S. interests following the attack" - You know who those guys are? That "TEAM" is F.A.S.T. Company. Those pieces of garbage are about to have a very, VERY bad day. You do NOT mess with F.A.S.T. Co. - ever.
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A savage and brutal outrage. Sympathies to the victim's families.
Mr. Coombz, give it a rest will you. Otherwise please remove your avatar.
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What's the problem with my avatar? :headscratch: I don't even have them turned on and couldn't guess what's up there that's bad enough to make a fuss about ;o
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Your avatar has a Union Jack at its centre.
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Oh...I guess I can see what the fuss is about in that case
However, I respectfully decline on both counts.
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Coombz reminds me of the Ron Paul supporter and liberal nutjobs- that America is to blame for terrorism in the world and that radical Islam formed because of America's actions. Then he plays a game that is American run and comes onto the BBS and trashes America and wonders why he gets such a strong reaction against him. Even the father of a British soldier who was wounded in action disagrees with him.
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The AH community associates your hobby with the core of your avatar.
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United States is sending two fully armed Destroyers to Libya, not sure exactly what this amounts to other then a show of force - even though THEY know we won't fire off a shot.
/pointless I guess I dont understand the logic of this
A couple of Tomahawks would be a nice warning shot, directly aimed at the center of where the rats are hiding at
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Coombz reminds me of the Ron Paul supporter and liberal nutjobs- that America is to blame for terrorism in the world and that radical Islam formed because of America's actions. Then he plays a game that is American run and comes onto the BBS and trashes America and wonders why he gets such a strong reaction against him. Even the father of a British soldier who was wounded in action disagrees with him.
:rofl i don't wonder why i get a strong reaction against me
I'm sure lots of people disagree with me, everyone is entitled to their opinion
I'm no expert but isn't Ron Paul a republican?
Also you are once again creating a good straw man to represent me, can you quote where i said specifically that America is responsible for radical islam or that you are to blame for all terrorism?
I might have said you're failing to stem the flow and are in fact making it worse, but that's a different kettle of fish entirely
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The AH community associates your hobby with the core of your avatar.
So your inference is that i should either not speak my mind about certain things, or failing that i should not associate myself with the UK?
still declining, sorry
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I'm no expert but isn't Ron Paul a republican?
In name, yes he is. But he is the posterboy of the Libertarians and has run as a Presidential candidate for them in the past. He has a very isolationist view on foreign policy.
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So your inference is that i should either not speak my mind about certain things, or failing that i should not associate myself with the UK?
still declining, sorry
My inference is that other British players might not wish to be associated with your particular form of Tourette's.
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Maybe you should send a few PMs or get a sig line pointing out that not all British people are as mean and argumentative as me ;)
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It is a very sad and distasteful event.. ... just as many many others have been over many years...and to point and blame a particular thing is madness... do you all really believe everything in the media??? I'm positive many of you have dissed the media and called it lies ...on this very board...over very similar things during this past decade or so I am of the opinion of a couple here... many are only looking and seeing the surface of things..... there is and has been more to world events....Not sure whether it is pointed to WWIII as such from my perspective.. but more toward globalization....
I :salute those who have been lost ...Karma is a bi@7ch... and from what I can figure ...F.A.S.T is Karma intensified
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Maybe you should send a few PMs or get a sig line pointing out that not all British people are as mean and argumentative as me ;)
I don't think you're being argumentative, it's something else.
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Personally, our bombs should be dropping over Libya and our tanks going through Tripoli. If we don't use a show of force, Our Ambassadors around the Middle East will be slaughtered the same way.
This is not the time for talk, this is the time for war. By killing U.S. Marines and an American Government Official , war was declared when the shots were fired at the Embassy
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Personally, our bombs should be dropping over Libya and our tanks going through Tripoli. If we don't use a show of force, Our Ambassadors around the Middle East will be slaughtered the same way.
This is not the time for talk, this is the time for war. By killing U.S. Marines and an American Government Official , war was declared when the shots were fired at the Embassy
Problem is the other half of the country don't want another war. And IMO, war should be a last resort. With the exception of one war, I think all of the wars in history could've been avoided had one side decided to use other methods.
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Problem is the other half of the country don't want another war. And IMO, war should be a last resort. With the exception of one war, I think all of the wars in history could've been avoided had one side decided to use other methods.
My friend, they have already declared war, not it's time to get off our butts and wage it. Leave Libya in shambles and go home. It's the only way to stop this garbage. My only complaint is that we are sending war weary veterans to fight another war. But we have to fight this one.
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He said he was surprised Marines were there. Marines died there. I am surprised at the small amount but get this.
"team of U.S. Marines was being deployed to Libya to help secure U.S. interests following the attack" - You know who those guys are? That "TEAM" is F.A.S.T. Company. Those pieces of garbage are about to have a very, VERY bad day. You do NOT mess with F.A.S.T. Co. - ever.
Apparently a consulate doesn't warrant the same security as an embassy....this will probably make you mad, it did me
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/12/No-Marines-Guarding-US-Consulate-In-Libya
Marine Corps spokeswoman Capt. Kendra Motz said that Marines were not posted to the consulate, unlike the embassy in the capital, Tripoli.
A defense official told POLITICO on Wednesday that the Pentagon is sending an elite team of about 50 additional Marines, called a Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team, to reinforce the embassy.
A senior administration official Wednesday called the Benghazi consulate “an interim facility,” which the State Department began using “before the fall of Qadhafi.” It was staffed Tuesday by Libyan and State Department security officers. The consulate came under fire from heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades at about 10 p.m. local time on Tuesday. By the time the attack ended several hours later, four Americans were dead and three others had been injured.
The Benghazi consulate had “lock-and-key” security, not the same level of defenses as a formal embassy, an intelligence source told POLITICO. That means it had no bulletproof glass, reinforced doors or other features common to embassies. The intelligence source contrasted it with the American embassy in Cairo, Egypt – “a permanent facility, which is a lot easier to defend.” The Cairo embassy also was attacked Tuesday.
This is startling and troubling news, especially in light of the fact that the day before yesterday's attacks, September 10, al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri made direct threats against Americans in Libya to avenge the death of Abu Yahya al-Libi, a high-ranking al-Qaeda official taken out by an American drone attack last June.
Here you have al-Queda making explicit threats against Americans in Libya and little to no protection for our consulate -- and as a result, four Americans are dead.
Moreover, just hours before the attack ...
[Sean] Smith sent a message to Alex Gianturco, the director of "Goonswarm," Smith's online gaming team or "guild."
“Assuming we don’t die tonight,” the message, which was first reported by Wired, read. “We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures.”
Within hours of posting that message, Smith, a husband and father of two, was dead. Gianturco, who could not be reached for further comment, got the word out to fellow gamers, according to Wired.
The media will never demand answers for this horrifying news, but hopefully a Congressional investigation will
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Personally, our bombs should be dropping over Libya and our tanks going through Tripoli.
That wouldn't help anything at this point. It's one of those actions that sounds good when you're angry, but think about it a little while and you see it's just anger talking. A military invasion and occupation a sovereign nation over the actions of a group of thugs killing five Americans just isn't a proper response. I realize the embassy is also sovereign territory, but the crime just doesn't validate an invasion. Besides why send more troops to occupy another Middle Eastern train wreck? Not everybody in Libya is an extremist dirtbag and there will be people who come forward and assist in finding the dirtbags who did this. With any luck these people can be identified located and then maybe a visit from Seal Team Six could be arranged in the wee hours of the morning.
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My friend, they have already declared war, not it's time to get off our butts and wage it. Leave Libya in shambles and go home. It's the only way to stop this garbage. My only complaint is that we are sending war weary veterans to fight another war. But we have to fight this one.
I'm not a hippie anti war person, and I don't want to be viewed as one. Total war with Lybia is not going to benefit anyone. We win it, put a "democratic" tin head to power, 50 years later, same thing is going to happen again.
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Lets not forget how every day before the intervention in Libya how people from all sides criticized the US gov't and the UN for inaction and had their eyes red and mouths watering for Qaddafi's blood.
The same people who are now in Libya are now taking power in Syria, and every day people chastise the government for inaction, chastise Iran and Russia for supporting the Syrian regime, and let their emotions get the better of them...
Not everyone fighting against a their government is a good guy.
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Lets not forget how every day before the intervention in Libya how people from all sides criticized the US gov't and the UN for inaction and had their eyes red and mouths watering for Qaddafi's blood.
The same people who are now in Libya are now taking power in Syria, and every day people chastise the government for inaction, chastise Iran and Russia for supporting the Syrian regime, and let their emotions get the better of them...
Not everyone fighting against a their government is a good guy.
You can throw in Egypt there, as well. What a disaster that has turned out to be. There was no "democracy" movement at all. The Muslim Brotherhood is a highly radical group, supporters of terrorism, and threaten to break the peace between Israel and Egypt. At least Mubarak was our friend and ally and kept the radical Islamic groups suppressed.
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You can throw in Egypt there, as well. What a disaster that has turned out to be. There was no "democracy" movement at all. The Muslim Brotherhood is a highly radical group, supporters of terrorism, and threaten to break the peace between Israel and Egypt. At least Mubarak was our friend and ally and kept the radical Islamic groups suppressed.
There sure was a democracy movement. It's just that the people of Egypt wanted a radical Muslim government.
You can also add Saddam Hussein's Iraq and the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan that called for Soviet support in the 80s to the list of secular (but relatively peaceful) regimes that we've removed in support of radical Muslim factions as well.
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I fear that no matter what we do in this region of the world it won't do any good.
The extremists have personal gains in mind, and they have guns. The majority of Islam from
what I understand does not approve of what has been happening in their countries for some time.
They dislike what the extremists are doing. They will not stop it or can't. Those with power
such as in Egypt don't want to rock the boat....they may need extremists votes in the future.
Somethin akin to what happens in this country. They won't do a thing, even if it is right and proper to do so.
It may well be unpopular (even in this country) even if it is right to take action.
My dislike for Politicians grows deeper on a daily basis.
How else could one explain why the President wouldn't interupt his fund raiser in Vegas to deal with the
death of 4 American citizens. It wouldn't be in his interest. The donations would.
This is not just directed at our President, but our elected officials Senate and House of both parties
who seem to be elected to lifetime jobs not by their performance but an affiliation to a political party.
That is entirely our fault. The voters.
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My dislike for Politicians grows deeper on a daily basis.
How else could one explain why the President won't interupt his fund raiser in Vegas to deal with the
death of 4 American citizens. It wouldn't be in his interest. The donations would.
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They where military and a guy trying to do his job so it doesn't matter to our blessed ed savior Barack Hussian Obama
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I find it funny that people are so quick to go to "war" yet cry and whine when it happens......
same as those that say there is no GOD but damn do they pray when their life is in danger.....
....I for one cant wait until this world is scrubbed clean, and everyone gets their just due....
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I find it funny that people are so quick to go to "war" yet cry and whine when it happens......
same as those that say there is no GOD but damn do they pray when their life is in danger.....
....I for one cant wait until this world is scrubbed clean, and everyone gets their just due....
Huh? This from a guy who posts pics of his scantily-clad wife on the internet.
Now claiming to be on the winning side of some religious transcendent event, due hopefully in his immediate future.
Sorry, but.... huh, Ink?
We now return, hopefully, to some sane conversation.
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what does that have to do with my disdain for those who think they can dictate what others do
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I tattooed GODs name on my right hand and face.....I don't believe what "religion" says.....IE men...I can think for myself I don't need others to think for me.....
most religion is men lieing, and has nothing to do with what the Bible says. :aok
funny you call talking about and wishing of, the killing of people "sane conversation"......yet are offended(i'm guessing because of your remark) I would put a pic of my scantily clad wife up...... :headscratch:
seems to me that is backwards....which does not surprise me at all. :rolleyes:
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Heck I don't know , Bro....
It's just the reference to wishing for when "the world is scrubbed clean, and everyone gets their just due" that pisses people off.
Religious dogma and sane conversation at times are....what's the word, folks? :)
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I'm praying for the Marines going in to harms way, and for their leadership to call it right in the next firefight.
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Religious dogma and sane conversation at times are....what's the word, folks? :)
mutually exclusive? :)
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Heck I don't know , Bro....
It's just the reference to wishing for when "the world is scrubbed clean, and everyone gets their just due" that pisses people off.
Religious dogma and sane conversation at times are....what's the word, folks? :)
when I say "scrubbed clean" I am referring to evil and all that revel in it :aok
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You Americans have gained a Empire but not realised it yet :old:
Britain did the same in the 1750's.
Now don't all start jumping about and getting abusive, its just a observation :old:
Which other nation in the world is having policies of intervention?
The other power blocks the Russia and China are too busy spending American investment capital so they are keeping out of it :old:
Every country in the Middle East has been dragged back to the middle ages (divide and rule)except Turkey which is industrialising and selling TV's in Walmart.
Russia and Syria is sabre rattling for the masses.
OIL is the life blood of Western society, OPEC yes OPEC not heard from that lot for ages have we :) that is because its finished. Its not Middle East oil its ours, if they don't sell it to us its as much use as sand :old:
Terrorists we had them in Britain for years until they were bought of by trillions of dollars and freeways :)
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I was not trying to belittle anyone's service, just highlighting the waste and ineffectiveness of foreign policy in the middle east
It's grand that you and your son can be proud, if it was my son I would be deeply angry but hey everyone is different
Edit: by the way fellows the American govt did not apologize for that weirdo's movie, if you actually read the statement issued you would know that. The statement simply said they do condone and never have condoned attacks on people's religious beliefs etc. That's not an apology, that's just distancing yourselves from the wackjobs :)
Why should they? They didn't make it.
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Why should they? They didn't make it.
:huh uhh I wasn't insinuating that they should have.
Someone in an earlier post was referencing the Obama admin's "apology for forcing the rioters to attack the embasssy". I was just pointing out that there was no such apology, in the vague hope that people might think (or read) for themselves in the future, rather than believing anything they hear as long as it fits in with their favoured world view and prejudices.
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He said he was surprised Marines were there. Marines died there. I am surprised at the small amount but get this.
"team of U.S. Marines was being deployed to Libya to help secure U.S. interests following the attack" - You know who those guys are? That "TEAM" is F.A.S.T. Company. Those pieces of garbage are about to have a very, VERY bad day. You do NOT mess with F.A.S.T. Co. - ever.
Sorry, my point was, I thought we had learned our lesson about these situations. Just wondering why we didn't have more Marines there for this hardly surprising event.
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Personally I believe this should never have happened, the place should've been turned into a uplifting parking lot the moment those heartless bastards destroyed many many WW2 War Graves.
:furious
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I find it funny that people are so quick to go to "war" yet cry and whine when it happens......
same as those that say there is no GOD but damn do they pray when their life is in danger.....
....I for one cant wait until this world is scrubbed clean, and everyone gets their just due....
My hypocrisy did not extend that far.
First point however is very vaild :aok
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Just seen reports that the US embassy in Yemen has been evacuated, and attacked.
http://uk.breakingnews.com/item/ahZzfmJyZWFraW5nbmV3cy13d3ctaHJkcg0LEgRTZWVkGJbNjAoM/2012/09/13/us-embassy-employees-in-sanaa-yemen-are-being-moved-to-a-safer-locat
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I find it funny that people are so quick to go to "war" yet cry and whine when it happens......
same as those that say there is no GOD but damn do they pray when their life is in danger.....
....I for one cant wait until this world is scrubbed clean, and everyone gets their just due....
Hi Ink how are you today :)
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Anti muslim..... make a film, write a book, maybe a leaflet campaign
Anti western democracy ...... explosions, suicide attacks, be-headings on Al Jazeera
and these radicals are so desperate for reasons to spout their xenophobic rhetoric that they have imprisoned a mentally deficient 11 year old girl for blasphemy, after some 'cleric' decided to place burnt pages of the Koran in her bag. :bhead
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What would Reagan do? :salute
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_United_States_embassy_bombing
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I fear that no matter what we do in this region of the world it won't do any good.
:aok
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I tattooed GODs name on my right hand and face.....
Odin?
Just curious ;)
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As an American...
I feel that my fellow citizens react too much like the Happsburgs.
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Well, with my morning coffee I see:
The Grand Mufti of America has refused a meeting with Netanyahu PM of Israel, in favor of David Lettermen..
And then ASKS the Muslim Brotherhood to come for a Prayer Meeting at the Whitehouse.. The "Leader of
Al Qaeda" agrees with US Policy in the Removal of Assad in Syria, Romney agrees too.. Knowing the
"Syrian Rebels" are being led by Al Qaeda veterans from Iraq, and being equipped in Turkey.. The timing of
these attacks and subsequent events should at least make you suspicious.. The stink of Collusion is all over this!
My God, what a tangled web we weave?
Still waiting for the "National Emergency".. (ala Riechstag Fire) Dangerous times we are in right now!
Will it come before the election?? Or before the actual handover of power???
But with the New Guy, will there even be a difference in Policy, or just rhetoric???
edit: Remember the "Gaza Flotilla", a set up, contrived provocation and media event! Remember the connections
that were discovered between western leftists, their owned media outlets, and Muslim terror organizations???
The same forces are at work now.. Beware!
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Jeez RngFndr :huh
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RngFndr has a point but the shenanigans going on at present will not be felt for another twenty or thirty years.
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Jeez RngFndr :huh
:rofl he's not entirely too far out in left field...
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Nice to see some cool-headed people.
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Nice to see some cool-headed people.
Just think, the entire world is filled with them.
It is amazing what food, shelter, and love can do. :old:
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Anyone else watch the newsroom? I think they call it 'Tragedy Porn'
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Thanks for posting those.
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Just think, the entire world is filled with them.
It is amazing what food, shelter, and love can do. :old:
Yes the world is filled with them.
Oh...I guess I can see what the fuss is about in that case
However, I respectfully decline on both counts.
You knew what nrshida meant and said, but choose to play a game of 20 questions. Also, keep visiting the Country you enjoy ripping on. You must paint so well that a broad brush wouldn't even be up to task.
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Those are more powerful than the Syrian ones. Thank you Rap.
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My hypocrisy did not extend that far.
First point however is very vaild :aok
no..... I know that, it just makes me think of that.....sorry if I implied otherwise :salute
Odin?
Just curious ;)
:D...... no
YHVH...............Yahaveh :aok
Zack....I am good as can be. :salute
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great photos :aok
I live in a place owned by Muslims.....to be perfectly honest, I have met very few "Americans" as Honest or humble as these people are.....my wife works for them as a house keeper....she missed a 2 dollar tip and the dad brings it to her the next day.....
I have started reading the Quran, I want to see and read all this hate that is perpetuated about these people, and their religion.....well so far I cant say I have read anything like what is said about it......quite the opposite actually. (although admittedly I am no where near finished reading it)
there are rotten apples in every batch.....lets not get rid of the apple orchard because of a few bad apples.....
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Well, with my morning coffee I see:
The Grand Mufti of America has refused a meeting with Netanyahu PM of Israel, in favor of David Lettermen..
And then ASKS the Muslim Brotherhood to come for a Prayer Meeting at the Whitehouse.. The "Leader of
Al Qaeda" agrees with US Policy in the Removal of Assad in Syria, Romney agrees too.. Knowing the
"Syrian Rebels" are being led by Al Qaeda veterans from Iraq, and being equipped in Turkey.. The timing of
these attacks and subsequent events should at least make you suspicious.. The stink of Collusion is all over this!
My God, what a tangled web we weave?
Still waiting for the "National Emergency".. (ala Riechstag Fire) Dangerous times we are in right now!
Will it come before the election?? Or before the actual handover of power???
But with the New Guy, will there even be a difference in Policy, or just rhetoric???
edit: Remember the "Gaza Flotilla", a set up, contrived provocation and media event! Remember the connections
that were discovered between western leftists, their owned media outlets, and Muslim terror organizations???
The same forces are at work now.. Beware!
there is still a slim chance that there is more to the story.
I know little but from my perspective there are a few interesting things to think about.
With the internet and global access to education and commerce people are different today than 20 years ago. bigger,stronger,faster,cheaper,silent,deadly. if the grand conspiracy you say is true and you have tied the loose ends(which i cant looking at all the posts in this thread),our government and the "NWO" are batting 1.000 and pull off the most challenging logistical and secretive plots. so good the people doing them dont know about it.
NO person or group is as good as the conspiracy theorists say. whats really going on is only hidden more by the bs people spout. we are all human, and we all make mistakes, lets try to take this life
for what its worth, one day at time. Im sure the powers at be are fully aware of the realities of life and its challenges.
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I bought a copy of the Koran in English to see what the fuss was about :)
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I bought a copy of the Koran in English to see what the fuss was about :)
I got one off the people that own the cottages I am living at.....funny he (the dad) when he handed me the book he says to me, just do one thing.......before you read it, if you happened to have made love to your wife could you shower first before reading it.
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I bought mine from a discount book shop for £1, the girl behind the counter asked me if I would like some self propelling pencils because it was two for one, she never mentioned my Mrs at all :old:
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I bought mine from a discount book shop for £1, the girl behind the counter asked me if I would like some self propelling pencils because it was two for one, she never mentioned my Mrs at all :old:
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I bought a copy of the Koran in English to see what the fuss was about :)
carefull you may get killed for having that someday. :neener:
(because its in english, they dont like that.)
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And People , we will bomb you equally .
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I'd like to point out the people in these photos are displaying a huge amount of courage. I'm very touched that they put so much on the line to show the world how they feel.
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I'd like to point out the people in these photos are displaying a huge amount of courage. I'm very touched that they put so much on the line to show the world how they feel.
Indeed, and they would not have been even able to protest previously. This could be the one good thing to come out of this atrocity.
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I'd like to point out the people in these photos are displaying a huge amount of courage. I'm very touched that they put so much on the line to show the world how they feel.
This. reminds me of the Libyans in Tripoli and Misrata, who during the civil war, contacted the war corespondents to tell their story, and their distrust in Ghaddafi.
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I'd like to point out the people in these photos are displaying a huge amount of courage. I'm very touched that they put so much on the line to show the world how they feel.
Absolutely the truth.
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The Commander in Chief was first against the removal of 1 staunch ally (Mubarak),
and 1 who was providing a wealth of Info to US Intelligence (Qaddafi).
Then he was for the removal, knowing full well that the Muslim Brotherhood was the
strongest party. Knowing full well of the turmoil bound to happen, and appeasing them.
He backs a resolution in International Court that has been talked about- The Criminalization
of Blasphemy against Muslims. Making it illegal, IN AMERICA, to say or do anything that is considered
blasphemous to a Muslim.
Instead of showing strength, he appeases. Embassy in Egypt apologizes for "Abuse of Free Speech".
More important to be on Letterman, hang out with Jay-Z, than speak to one of our most important
allies' Prime Minister. Ridiculous, incompetent, poor judgement, Lack of leadership............
:cheers: Oz
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I find it hard to believe that people have so soon 'forgotten' the almost unanimous criticism the current administration was drawing from all sides until the intervention in Libya.
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I find it hard to believe that people have so soon 'forgotten' the almost unanimous criticism the current administration was drawing from all sides until the intervention in Libya.
I forgot nothing, I never voted for him :aok
:cheers: Oz
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I forgot nothing, I never voted for him :aok
:cheers: Oz
I don't see what that has to do with anything.
Right, left and center were all fuming that Obama waited for international and Arab approval and support before intervening in Libya. People were calling for troops on the ground (particularly on the right) as soon as Qaddafi started using force on the same people they now want to turn into glass. Revenge for Reagan or whatever I don't know, the outrage was ridiculous.
Now that it's all said and done certain... elements pretend that they were against it the whole time and saw the whole thing coming.
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blatant hypocrisy in politics? I am as shocked as you Motherland :old:
people will say and believe anything as long as it supports their pre-conceived ideals
isolationist foreign policy is bad for America!!!111
except when it isn't
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Just curious if those in the pictures will end up beheaded for this? Thanks for posting the pictures :aok
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Just curious if those in the pictures will end up beheaded for this? Thanks for posting the pictures :aok
I sure hope and pray they don't.
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If anyone has looked at their history books, which I think for many younger American's (and young people in general) and many ignorant ones may ask "whats a history book?"... we kinda started it.
The crusades during the era's of Papal control, were unrestricted examples of total war on a faith... Christianity vs Islam.
They did not hate us nor discriminate against us.... yet we called them infidels and blasphemous barbarians and invaded their home, proceeding to rape, pillage and murder in the name of "god".
My best explanation that I can give is that they (Extreme Muslim Factions) come from a faith that has not evolved.
Islam is a very conservative archaic faith. Its extremist regulation and condemnation of heresy has prevented it from evolving through the centuries. While Islam preaches much good and in fact is almost no different from the Christian bible (in fact Islam is a variant of Christianity), it has not yet had the evolution stages that Western Christianity has gone through.
Right now Islam is going through its version of the "Inquisitional Era", where extreme fervor is taking root in government legislation. We have evolved into freedom of religion (yet many zealots still exist). We represent the largest example of "heresy" and while the standard day to day Muslim could not give two damns what we call God. The ever growing contingent of Muslim extremist nations will eventually pose a SIGNIFICANT problem. We already have considerable problems with Extremist terror organizations. This has already begun to turn into a religious war.
Religious ideology is something that cannot be proved or disproved. It is the single most evil force on planet earth. It controls the faith of human beings to a point where any differentiation from the ideology is considered incorrect or "wrong" and is destroyed.
Many Americans have the view that evolution is a lie, the human race is the only intelligent species in the universe and that we actually did come from two white human beings that lived in a magical garden. Many Muslims have the view that Allah is the creator of all things, that this "god" person is actually the devil, a false god trying to corrupt, and that infidels must be destroyed. Sharia law, etc.. etc.
^^^ These seem ridiculous to level headed human beings, but it shows the raw power that religious faith holds over people. Utilized by a government which BELIEVES its ideology, and given all the resources that a modern nation can possess, nuclear weapons, armies, political pull.....
And we have a very VERY serious problem.
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I'm gonna steal Steve's line, because I don't think he posts here anymore. "They don't read English, think they are holding up signs that say "@$#% America!". :bolt: :bolt:
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If anyone has looked at their history books, which I think for many younger American's (and young people in general) and many ignorant ones may ask "whats a history book?"... we kinda started it.
The crusades during the era's of Papal control, were unrestricted examples of total war on a faith... Christianity vs Islam.
They did not hate us nor discriminate against us.... yet we called them infidels and blasphemous barbarians and invaded their home, proceeding to rape, pillage and murder in the name of "god".
My best explanation that I can give is that they (Extreme Muslim Factions) come from a faith that has not evolved.
Islam is a very conservative archaic faith. Its extremist regulation and condemnation of heresy has prevented it from evolving through the centuries. While Islam preaches much good and in fact is almost no different from the Christian bible (in fact Islam is a variant of Christianity), it has not yet had the evolution stages that Western Christianity has gone through.
Right now Islam is going through its version of the "Inquisitional Era", where extreme fervor is taking root in government legislation. We have evolved into freedom of religion (yet many zealots still exist). We represent the largest example of "heresy" and while the standard day to day Muslim could not give two damns what we call God. The ever growing contingent of Muslim extremist nations will eventually pose a SIGNIFICANT problem. We already have considerable problems with Extremist terror organizations. This has already begun to turn into a religious war.
Religious ideology is something that cannot be proved or disproved. It is the single most evil force on planet earth. It controls the faith of human beings to a point where any differentiation from the ideology is considered incorrect or "wrong" and is destroyed.
Many Americans have the view that evolution is a lie, the human race is the only intelligent species in the universe and that we actually did come from two white human beings that lived in a magical garden. Many Muslims have the view that Allah is the creator of all things, that this "god" person is actually the devil, a false god trying to corrupt, and that infidels must be destroyed. Sharia law, etc.. etc.
^^^ These seem ridiculous to level headed human beings, but it shows the raw power that religious faith holds over people. Utilized by a government which BELIEVES its ideology, and given all the resources that a modern nation can possess, nuclear weapons, armies, political pull.....
And we have a very VERY serious problem.
very good post Pacman :aok
i think it's important to remember that most of the people in these countries that we vilify don't have access to the same amounts of education, money, culture, technology and opportunities to travel and see other cultures that we enjoy
their ignorance has a kind of basis in their social and environmental situation...whereas many people in the West (pointing no fingers here, with the greatest of efforts :) ) have far more opportunities to better themselves, and have no excuse for their ignorance except for sheer pig headedness and good old fashioned xenophobia
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very good post Pacman :aok
i think it's important to remember that most of the people in these countries that we vilify don't have access to the same amounts of education, money, culture, technology and opportunities to travel and see other cultures that we enjoy
their ignorance has a kind of basis in their social and environmental situation...whereas many people in the West (pointing no fingers here, with the greatest of efforts :) ) have far more opportunities to better themselves, and have no excuse for their ignorance except for sheer pig headedness and good old fashioned xenophobia
I don't vilify anyone, so unless you have a guilty conscience, speak for yourself.
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l have a very guilty conscience from all the Muslim bashing i have partaken in :old:
First world problems
By the way your comment doesn't really make sense (not that i would expect much else from you). I assume you meant speak for myself if i have a guilty conscience
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I'm not sure if anybody has mentioned this yet but one of the 3 marines was a retired Navy Seal. http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/09/13/family-former-seal-among-dead-in-libya-attack.html?comp=1198882887570&rank=2 (http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/09/13/family-former-seal-among-dead-in-libya-attack.html?comp=1198882887570&rank=2)
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Apparently a consulate doesn't warrant the same security as an embassy....this will probably make you mad, it did me
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/12/No-Marines-Guarding-US-Consulate-In-Libya
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surprise you bang your head. do you know the difference between a consulate and an embassy?
semp
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surprise you bang your head. do you know the difference between a consulate and an embassy?
semp
I swear to f*cking God if you start with me on this thread where I lost three of my brother's in arms as well as a friend in WoT.....his name was "VileRat".
Apologies if this has been posted, but one of USA's diplomats, and avid gamer, and WOT player was killed in the Consulate attacks yesterday; I read over on MWO forums that many people knew him as a WOT player as well. (and EVE)
http://worldoftanks.com/community/accounts/1000039856-Vilerat/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/diplomat-killed-in-libya-to-fellow-gamers-assuming-dont-die-tonight/
One of the American diplomats killed Tuesday in a bloody attack on a Libyan Consulate told pals in an online gaming forum hours earlier that he'd seen suspicious people taking pictures outside his compound and wondered if he and his team might "die tonight."
You can piss off right now "Semp". Some "Marine" you are. You disgust me beyond words.
At this point you'd best hope I never come face to face with you. Not because you and I disagree on topics, but because you lack the mental capacity to understand when it's time for an argument and instead of mourning the loss of these people, you would rather fight. I want to vomit.
This is not the god d@mned time or place you ignorant pile of inbred horse manure. All you want to do is argue. That's what you're built for. You want to fight all the time? Move to the middle east.
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Second Edit: While I'm thinking about it; go over there to Libya right now. I want you to go over there, look at the bodies of what are SUPPOSED to be YOUR brothers as well and pick a fight with their corpse.
If you've got any uniforms from your past in your home, you'd best turn them over to someone who deserves the title.
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Religious ideology is something that cannot be proved or disproved. It is the single most evil force on planet earth. It controls the faith of human beings to a point where any differentiation from the ideology is considered incorrect or "wrong" and is destroyed.
I used to think this too a very very long time ago, but down through the years my view has changed slightly. I no longer see Religion as the 'cause' of these kind of problems. Of course differences breed conflict but mutual tolerance and understanding has been equally present as an example of society in your historical record, even amongst Muslims, Christian and Jews in the place and time you refer to. The problems arise when religion is used as a glue to bind a violent faction together and glaze them into a single purpose. This violent attack being a small-scale example of this, amplified by modern weapons and international media. It is the thought that it is justifiable to kill other people to achieve your goal that is the truly evil part. This is also wrong according to the Koran, as Zack can perhaps confirm.
And we have a very VERY serious problem.
Diversity is a very good thing for the human race. Don't only be consumed by the problems it causes. Mutual tolerance is far superior to oppression. As I believe you can choose to observe in these protests. :salute
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I swear to f*cking God if you start with me on this thread where I lost three of my brother's in arms as well as a friend in WoT.....his name was "VileRat".
You can piss off right now "Semp". Some "Marine" you are. You disgust me beyond words.
At this point you'd best hope I never come face to face with you. Not because you and I disagree on topics, but because you lack the mental capacity to understand when it's time for an argument and instead of mourning the loss of these people, you would rather fight. I want to vomit.
This is not the god d@mned time or place you ignorant pile of inbred horse manure. All you want to do is argue. That's what you're built for. You want to fight all the time? Move to the middle east.
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Second Edit: While I'm thinking about it; go over there to Libya right now. I want you to go over there, look at the bodies of what are SUPPOSED to be YOUR brothers as well and pick a fight with their corpse.
If you've got any uniforms from your past in your home, you'd best turn them over to someone who deserves the title.
you never played with vilerat, you only heard his name on the wot bb and if it hadnt been posted there you wouldnt have known . I only asked if you new the difference between a consulate and an embassy as you seem to question why the consulate is not as secured as an embassy. you have some issues I suggest you go see a doctor to help with that. and I dont need your approval as all you you are is a "show off" marine. and those are the words of 2 marines that i showed your previous posting and both of them served in vietnam, one was awarded the silver star just 3 years ago for what happened back then.
I never served in combat but I know a few that have. and none of them throw that on everybody's face like you do. you have anger issues deal with them before they eat you up. I know of a mother that lost her only son in Afghanistan and she was a good friend of mine and was there when her son was buried, and I work with others have fought and have gotten injured in both Iraq and Afghanistan. and none of the them have the anger issues that you have.
you are the ignorant one as you think you are superior to others because you are still bitter over what you went thru and I hope you take care of that before it eats you up. or you can be like my brother and drink himself to sleep so he cant feel anything or like my father who is still alive but his mind died a long time ago. or be like my gf's father who just died last year without ever telling her that he loved her. he beat my gf's mom and brother and her because he couldnt deal with what he saw.
and guess what, I have to deal with my gf drinking herself to death because of her father. you want to be like them then it's your choice or have kids that are just like my gf then keep going on.
you are more than welcome to come here to my house and help me deal with the daughter of a marine that was just like you and help me try to save her life for things that werent her fault. or perhaps you should answer my brother's calls when he asks me why he should be alive or my father trying to explain to me why he was the mean bastage that he is.
I served in the marines because I wanted to be just like my father and so did my brother. I am glad I was never in combat as perhaps the reason I didnt was so I can be here for them.
as for what you think of me you can kiss my fricking azzzz.
semp
edit: dont bother to answer as you your sorry azzz is on my squelch list.
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I actually agree with you Shida.
However my point perhaps is a bit difficult to explain.
I wholeheartedly one hundred percent SUPPORT. Religious faith.
My stand is against ORGANIZED religion. The idea that an authority or powerbase may exist in a movement based entirely on a faith. Religious faith is the single most powerful force on the planet, if it is controlled, like it is in the Catholic churches and Muslim faiths, it leaves people open to brainwashing, unwitting enslavement and more brutal and bloody confrontations than we could possibly handle.
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The playing field has changed. With the internet any fool can launch the first propaganda salvo in a religious war whether he represents the government or not. He is not thinking of the broader repercussions. Americans have to realize the repercussions of their actions. Don't poke the bear with a stick. The results are more far reaching than partisan political contests. Foreign powers are not prepared or equipped to handle the flood of partisan political rhetoric that will be unleashed in the next 2 months.
Playing this recent raid and atrocities into an election issue is wrong.
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I actually agree with you Shida.
However my point perhaps is a bit difficult to explain.
I wholeheartedly one hundred percent SUPPORT. Religious faith.
My stand is against ORGANIZED religion. The idea that an authority or powerbase may exist in a movement based entirely on a faith. Religious faith is the single most powerful force on the planet, if it is controlled, like it is in the Catholic churches and Muslim faiths, it leaves people open to brainwashing, unwitting enslavement and more brutal and bloody confrontations than we could possibly handle.
Our views are in accord Pacman. Organisational structures are inherently receptive to this kind of perversion.
I am extremely optimistic about the future however.
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If anyone has looked at their history books, which I think for many younger American's (and young people in general) and many ignorant ones may ask "whats a history book?"... we kinda started it.
The crusades during the era's of Papal control, were unrestricted examples of total war on a faith... Christianity vs Islam.
And we have a very VERY serious problem.
I read the first three line and fell asleep :old:
Try and keep it concise for the old folk :)
1. The powers that be want extremist elements in the region it keeps these countries at each other throats.
2. Its not religious mistrust by the US, investments in Turkey is in the Trillions. :)
3. Iran,Iraq,Syria,Egypt and Turkey are not Arabs (which is very very important in regards to US intervention) :)
4. Arabs were living in the desert in the 1920's and riding camels.
5 The Western Powers not the US created Jordan,Palestine and Saudi Arabia (They are Western concepts).
6.The exit of the European powers after the second world war was only that.(The oil was still western)
7.Not one oil field in the region has been attack by militants........not one.
8.If the West does not have control of the OIL Wetstern society will collapse.(It will collapse)
9 All the Technology for oil production is Western. (It is Western, the native technology is the water wheel)
10. The mistrust of the West in Middle east is irrelevant they produce nothing and are reliant for the West for everything except sand.
11 All those contries not involved in the military actions in the Middle East are still gaining profit from it. (France,Germany etc)
12 Getting all angry serves no purpose, being Liberal about it is even worse.(Liberals have bigger cars and more money than me, usually gained from investments)
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you never played with vilerat, you only heard his name on the wot bb and if it hadnt been posted there you wouldnt have known . I only asked if you new the difference between a consulate and an embassy as you seem to question why the consulate is not as secured as an embassy. you have some issues I suggest you go see a doctor to help with that. and I dont need your approval as all you you are is a "show off" marine. and those are the words of 2 marines that i showed your previous posting and both of them served in vietnam, one was awarded the silver star just 3 years ago for what happened back then.
I never served in combat but I know a few that have. and none of them throw that on everybody's face like you do. you have anger issues deal with them before they eat you up. I know of a mother that lost her only son in Afghanistan and she was a good friend of mine and was there when her son was buried, and I work with others have fought and have gotten injured in both Iraq and Afghanistan. and none of the them have the anger issues that you have.
you are the ignorant one as you think you are superior to others because you are still bitter over what you went thru and I hope you take care of that before it eats you up. or you can be like my brother and drink himself to sleep so he cant feel anything or like my father who is still alive but his mind died a long time ago. or be like my gf's father who just died last year without ever telling her that he loved her. he beat my gf's mom and brother and her because he couldnt deal with what he saw.
and guess what, I have to deal with my gf drinking herself to death because of her father. you want to be like them then it's your choice or have kids that are just like my gf then keep going on.
you are more than welcome to come here to my house and help me deal with the daughter of a marine that was just like you and help me try to save her life for things that werent her fault. or perhaps you should answer my brother's calls when he asks me why he should be alive or my father trying to explain to me why he was the mean bastage that he is.
I served in the marines because I wanted to be just like my father and so did my brother. I am glad I was never in combat as perhaps the reason I didnt was so I can be here for them.
as for what you think of me you can kiss my fricking azzzz.
semp
edit: dont bother to answer as you your sorry azzz is on my squelch list.
Semp, do me a favor. Could you die? Thank you.
I'm going to throw this on the table and this is the last you will hear of it from me.
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Exactly how do you know who I have and have not played with? He was a member of Stug Life, and though we were not clanned up; we did talk. We platooned when we both had an opportunity, he was a friend. Unless you live in the same house as me, you are doing nothing but puffing your chest. F-U-C-K you.
I did not know him in person but that does not disqualify him from being my friend.
I did not say anything about ME being deployed or seeing combat. Where in the flying hell did I say that in my post? I said you are disrespectful to what is supposed to be your bothers as well as mine.
Where did I say I was superior to anyone? Get off your box. All you're doing is trolling.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize having a gf with daddy issues gave you an excuse to be an a$shole. At least you can fix her drinking, would you like to deal with Vanessa's epilepsy? We ALL have personal problems. I don't have any children of my own yet, and I don't plan to for some time. Just because I'm still in doesn't mean I'm going to be a total POS. My next contract is up in three years anyway. Again; you know very little about me and ASSume an awful lot.
Serving in combat does not mean you will be mentally or physically messed up beyond repair. You just carry the weight of so many other warriors. If you think combat always equates to death, you shouldn't have even bothered to serve. It is a risk you take with the job. Just like when I was a firefighter before I joined. Both jobs dangerous, and both jobs rewarding and give you pride.
Just because you never saw combat doesn't mean you should neglect the sacrifice of your brothers....that's a twisted logic.
Do you attend any AH get togethers? I'd love to see you in person for about four seconds.
I wish you the very worst. You are a disgrace.
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Have you guys heard of this thing? :huh
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Well this post took an INteresting turn...
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Lo and behold, with my Morning Coffee..
I said yesterday, that there was bad stink in this whole embassy mess..
And now there is word, that there was advance warning from foreign intel..
State Dept was alerted on Sept 4th??? And again 40hrs before the event??
But CIA says they knew NOTHING??? Man, the BS just keeps getting deeper!
But nothing was done, no warning was sent, no precautions were taken???
They just let it roll, as a provocation, so it can be used as a political tool!
Now the FBI is running around warning of violence in America over this..
You just know whats coming next, don't ya???
That "Freedom of Speech thing", just way too dangerous!
Gonna have to do something about that!
Sometimes, I HATE being right!
God PLEASE, let me be wrong!
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Well this post took an INteresting turn...
Yup, someone is off his meds.
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I have started reading the Quran, I want to see and read all this hate that is perpetuated about these people, and their religion.....well so far I cant say I have read anything like what is said about it......quite the opposite actually. (although admittedly I am no where near finished reading it)
there are rotten apples in every batch.....lets not get rid of the apple orchard because of a few bad apples.....
don't know where you're at in the book but, you will find a lot of reference to "infidels", commonly misrepresented by the extremist imam as any person who is not muslim or doesn't adhere to his interpretation of the qur'an. the qur'an reads like an alternate interpretation of an early judeo-christian bible which isn't surprising since it was supposedly penned in the 7th century c.e. by which time early christians were "spreading the word" throughout the known world at that time. the person who gave you the book may be willing to talk about the book with you, just be careful how you address things as there are more taboos than any christian church when it comes to discussing the qur'an.
on another note, the 2 jarheads trading testosterone on this discussion need to tuck their testicles back in their pants. airing out your personal lives in a public forum is ridiculously childish, most especially when the rest of the discussion has nothing to do with your real life problems.
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don't know where you're at in the book but, you will find a lot of reference to "infidels", commonly misrepresented by the extremist imam as any person who is not muslim or doesn't adhere to his interpretation of the qur'an. the qur'an reads like an alternate interpretation of an early judeo-christian bible which isn't surprising since it was supposedly penned in the 7th century c.e. by which time early christians were "spreading the word" throughout the known world at that time. the person who gave you the book may be willing to talk about the book with you, just be careful how you address things as there are more taboos than any christian church when it comes to discussing the qur'an.
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I was surprised...it mentions Yeshua(jesus).....the individual who gave it to me, would definitely talk about it with me, we have had quite a few convo's about GOD......(although it is hard to understand him :rofl)
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Many sources (US & International) saying attacks were nothing to do with film,
just a pretext. Attacks were well-coordinated in Military fashion.
US had 48 hrs notice of probability of attacks to occur on 9/11, duh.
Attacks occured on 9/11
Why were US Marines (Security detail) told to remove ammo from weapons?
Especially on 9/11 in a Middle Eastern country?
Fail after fail.
:cheers: Oz
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That "Freedom of Speech thing", just way too dangerous!
Gonna have to do something about that!
:rolleyes:
Sometimes, I HATE being right!
Console yourself RageFinder, at least it doesn't happen very often.
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I bought a copy of the Koran in English to see what the fuss was about :)
If you want a clearer picture of what motivates the radical muslims, read the Hadith....which is an account of the perfect example Muhammad set by his life. The Hadith are far more revealing about the radical mindset than the Koran is.
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Many sources (US & International) saying attacks were nothing to do with film,
just a pretext. Attacks were well-coordinated in Military fashion.
US had 48 hrs notice of probability of attacks to occur on 9/11, duh.
Attacks occured on 9/11
Why were US Marines (Security detail) told to remove ammo from weapons?
Especially on 9/11 in a Middle Eastern country?
Fail after fail. :cheers: Oz
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Once again, all I ever see Coombz do is talk bad about, or put down the US.
Why are you so Anti-American? Did the US deny you a Visa or something?
I've never seen you, in any post, say anything positive about my Country.
You seem, in most every post, be able to squeeze some kind of Anti-American rhetoric in.
I'm just trying to figure why.
If your Country had a National emergency, who do you think would be one of the first
to help, or offer assistance?
Everyone hates us, but who do the run to when they need something. :rolleyes:
Oz
Not everyone hates the US. Certainly not the British. Almost every American I have met,spoken to or served alongside have been genuine, patriotic and amiable. A couple not so much but then I have met many more disagreeable Brits.
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no..... I know that, it just makes me think of that.....sorry if I implied otherwise :salute
:D...... no
YHVH...............Yahaveh :aok
Zack....I am good as can be. :salute
great photos :aok
I live in a place owned by Muslims.....to be perfectly honest, I have met very few "Americans" as Honest or humble as these people are.....my wife works for them as a house keeper....she missed a 2 dollar tip and the dad brings it to her the next day.....
I have started reading the Quran, I want to see and read all this hate that is perpetuated about these people, and their religion.....well so far I cant say I have read anything like what is said about it......quite the opposite actually. (although admittedly I am no where near finished reading it)
there are rotten apples in every batch.....lets not get rid of the apple orchard because of a few bad apples.....
The 'verse of the sword' is usually a decent starting point to understand why these neandertal's think any deity would advocate murdering innocents.
The bible, at least the decent King James version and not the namby pamby New Testament, has similar content. It also advocates mass slaughter of non believers, and when god gets mad, you can bet that rivers will dry up and the mountains will be melted with your blood. However the difference is that radical fundamentalists, in all religions, have failed to drag their useless backsides out of the primordial mire, and think this is the way that rational human beings should conduct themselves. If we all behaved that way then gay marriage would be the least of the issues, after stoning your missus for making you a jacket cut from two different cloths!
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The 'verse of the sword' is usually a decent starting point to understand why these neandertal's think any deity would advocate murdering innocents.
The bible, at least the decent King James version and not the namby pamby New Testament, has similar content. It also advocates mass slaughter of non believers, and when god gets mad, you can bet that rivers will dry up and the mountains will be melted with your blood. However the difference is that radical fundamentalists, in all religions, have failed to drag their useless backsides out of the primordial mire, and think this is the way that rational human beings should conduct themselves. If we all behaved that way then gay marriage would be the least of the issues, after stoning your missus for making you a jacket cut from two different cloths!
lol, say what? :headscratch: King James version versus New Testament? last time i looked at the King James version of the bible it had the old testament and the new testament...lmao. are you referring to the Tanakh (Torah) in which the Christian Old Testament is loosely based on versus the New Testament?
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The 'verse of the sword' is usually a decent starting point to understand why these neandertal's think any deity would advocate murdering innocents.
The bible, at least the decent King James version and not the namby pamby New Testament, has similar content. It also advocates mass slaughter of non believers, and when god gets mad, you can bet that rivers will dry up and the mountains will be melted with your blood. However the difference is that radical fundamentalists, in all religions, have failed to drag their useless backsides out of the primordial mire, and think this is the way that rational human beings should conduct themselves. If we all behaved that way then gay marriage would be the least of the issues, after stoning your missus for making you a jacket cut from two different cloths!
I would love to get into a discussion about the Bible....have read it quite extensively, plus the Jahoveh witnesses...Mormon.... Cathlioc Bibles(which are all basically the same).....I use the Strong's concordance to go back to the original language.....
what I find funny are the people who claim to be Christens....for instance "Aryan Nations" yet they are about killing and death....which is so far from what Yeshua teaches......
the biggest irony of all time....Adolf Hitler killing jews.....his ancestors are Hebrew :lol all white/Caucasian people come from the Hebrew Nation.....
gotta stop....rule 14 :(
lol, say what? :headscratch: King James version versus New Testament? last time i looked at the King James version of the bible it had the old testament and the new testament...lmao. are you referring to the Tanakh (Torah) in which the Christian Old Testament is loosely based on versus the New Testament?
The Torah is the first 5 books of the old testament, it is not loosely based on it.... :aok
I think he is talking about modern versions of the new testament.
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The Torah is the first 5 books of the old testament, it is not loosely based on it.... :aok
I think he is talking about modern versions of the new testament.
i dunno Ink, maybe "loosely based" is a bit of a stretch but, i've read a copy of the Torah (english translation) and well, maybe something got lost in the translation, definitely wasn't a rabbi involved. all of the so called "modern translations" of the Christian bible really butcher the words.
ya ever wonder why there are no flying spaghetti monster believers in the mosques and synagogues? :lol
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....Adolf Hitler killing jews.....his ancestors are Hebrew
Adolf was a little bit more complex than simple Religion. His father was a Jew and an Alcoholic that beat his mother...
Also it is said that a group of Jews didn't like Adolf's paintings in Vienna :old:
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Also it is said that a group of Jews didn't like Adolf's paintings in Vienna :old:
No one liked them, they were pants :old:
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No one liked them, they were pants :old:
Some of them weren't too shabby, nothing better than your average A level student, but better than every single turner prize winning entry :bolt:
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Lo and behold, with my Morning Coffee..
I said yesterday, that there was bad stink in this whole embassy mess..
And now there is word, that there was advance warning from foreign intel..
State Dept was alerted on Sept 4th??? And again 40hrs before the event??
But CIA says they knew NOTHING??? Man, the BS just keeps getting deeper!
But nothing was done, no warning was sent, no precautions were taken???
They just let it roll, as a provocation, so it can be used as a political tool!
Now the FBI is running around warning of violence in America over this..
You just know whats coming next, don't ya???
That "Freedom of Speech thing", just way too dangerous!
Gonna have to do something about that!
Sometimes, I HATE being right!
God PLEASE, let me be wrong!
why would the cia want to say anything, anytime. it not smart to spill the beans to the world. in hindsight, i still see us as the victims. If the cia acted, what would they of done? put more americans on the line just so we can piss more uneducated people off.
do you really think that there are millions of people in government that are out for this master plot you speak of? slow your roll and remember, money, status, and success drive most cunning plots and political blunders, not a deliberate suicidal scheme.
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i dunno Ink, maybe "loosely based" is a bit of a stretch but, i've read a copy of the Torah (english translation) and well, maybe something got lost in the translation, definitely wasn't a rabbi involved. all of the so called "modern translations" of the Christian bible really butcher the words.
ya ever wonder why there are no flying spaghetti monster believers in the mosques and synagogues? :lol
they are the same.....yes modern translations don't get it exactly right....but the message is the same....I have compared them side by side.....for the most part they are exact.
I have laid out all the Christen Bibles and compared them side by side....all of them were pretty much exactly the same......except the Catholic....all Christen Bibles have 66 books except the Catholic.......it has 73.....
I agree the newest bibles are not as good as an old King James.....
did you know if you could get an original 1611 KJV the word "jesus" is no where in it?
I find it pretty amazing you can take a Jahovehs Bible and a Mormon bible compare them...the are exactly the same(99% the same)...then take the Torah and it is the same as the old testament......(the first 5 books anyways)
Adolf was a little bit more complex than simple Religion. His father was a Jew and an Alcoholic that beat his mother...
Also it is said that a group of Jews didn't like Adolf's paintings in Vienna :old:
I have heard that Hitler was Jewish.... actually it would be Hebrew jewish is the religion.....but I also heard that was not true....I am inclined to believe it was a rumor.
I am saying ALL Caucasian people are descendents of the Hebrew nation....so how Ironic is it that he was killing his own people....or the Aryan nations....or even the KKK....people like that.....they kill in GODS name.....
a verse...."they will kill you thinking they are doing my will..."
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they are the same.....yes modern translations don't get it exactly right....but the message is the same....I have compared them side by side.....for the most part they are exact.
I have laid out all the Christen Bibles and compared them side by side....all of them were pretty much exactly the same......except the Catholic....all Christen Bibles have 66 books except the Catholic.......it has 73.....
I agree the newest bibles are not as good as an old King James.....
did you know if you could get an original 1611 KJV the word "jesus" is no where in it?
I find it pretty amazing you can take a Jahovehs Bible and a Mormon bible compare them...the are exactly the same(99% the same)...then take the Torah and it is the same as the old testament......(the first 5 books anyways)
I have heard that Hitler was Jewish.... actually it would be Hebrew jewish is the religion.....but I also heard that was not true....I am inclined to believe it was a rumor.
I am saying ALL Caucasian people are descendents of the Hebrew nation....so how Ironic is it that he was killing his own people....or the Aryan nations....or even the KKK....people like that.....they kill in GODS name.....
a verse...."they will kill you thinking they are doing my will..."
Most also dont mention that Jesus was the firstborn of all creation, so he was there in the very beggining, God is actually speaking to him in the the beggining of the bible (if you have a Jehovah's' witness scripture bible Im not a witness but I do study with one.)
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Most also dont mention that Jesus was the firstborn of all creation, so he was there in the very beggining, God is actually speaking to him in the the beggining of the bible (if you have a Jehovah's' witness scripture bible Im not a witness but I do study with one.)
Well would you Adam an' Eve it?
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a verse...."they will kill you thinking they are doing my will..."
I have days like that.
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I am saying ALL Caucasian people are descendents of the Hebrew nation...
This is interesting; how do you figure? My ancestors were Germanic tribespeople who worshiped Odin and the other Aesirs thousands of years before the Old Testament / Torah was written. Our oldest existing relics that we have dug up here in Norway are dated to more than 2000 years BC, or about 1000 years before the oldest books of the Old Testament / Torah was written. The Hebrew people originated in Sumeria (Iraq) and didn't start traveling until about 1900 BC when they left for Egypt because of drought, and where enslaved for 300 years by the Pharaohs.
There have been people living in Europe since at least 700,000 years BC. The oldest human fossil in Europe was found near Heidelberg, Germany and dates back to 650,000 BC.
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There have been people living in Europe since at least 700,000 years BC. The oldest human fossil in Europe was found near Heidelberg, Germany and dates back to 650,000 BC.
You're not looking back far enough :old:
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Oh, my mistake... Howeeeever, I don't believe in any Biblical creation myth. The people of Western Europe had their own religion, now commonly referred to as Norse Paganism, and the people migrated to here from Africa hundreds of thousands of years ago.
The Nazis also incorporated old paganism into their sudo-religious ideology and Germanic mysticism. The SS emblem for instance was known as the "SS-Runen" and were based on the historical runic alphabets like many other Nazi symbols. The Nazis regarded Western Europeans as the original ancient people, not as a Semitic culture imported from the Middle East. And that's also in part why they hated the Jews so much (and the Slavic as well); the "usurpers and corruptors of European culture".
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If you want a clearer picture of what motivates the radical Muslims, read the Hadith....which is an account of the perfect example Muhammad set by his life. The Hadith are far more revealing about the radical mindset than the Koran is.
I only read it to see what the fuss was about, I could not find anything in it that made be get angry.
I had some of your Witness's knocking on my door the other year, they came back everyday for a week :old:
Very nice people, but because I agreed with everything they said they got very annoyed, strange that :old:
Its the agreeing that is the problem, they want confronation to justify how good they are :)
Same with any religion indifference is the fear of all of them.
The most important thing we have to discuss is why everyone voted for the 410 and you don't see them flying. :cry
The Meteor would be flown all the time :old:
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Well would you Adam an' Eve it?
Sorry that one got past me.
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I only read it to see what the fuss was about, I could not find anything in it that made be get angry.
I had some of your Witness's knocking on my door the other year, they came back everyday for a week :old:
Very nice people, but because I agreed with everything they said they got very annoyed, strange that :old:
Its the agreeing that is the problem, they want confronation to justify how good they are :)
Same with any religion indifference is the fear of all of them.
The most important thing we have to discuss is why everyone voted for the 410 and you don't see them flying. :cry
The Meteor would be flown all the time :old:
I landed two kills with it last night, tried looking for more targets but it died down for the night.
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the biggest irony of all time....Adolf Hitler killing jews.....his ancestors are Hebrew :lol all white/Caucasian people come from the Hebrew Nation.....
gotta stop....rule 14 :(
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Adolf knew Charlton Heston then ? I watched it the other week "The Ten Commandments"and "Ben Hur", I had dog called Ben.
I have a copy of his book its a birthday edition I might sell it, its on Ebay for $1000.
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Most also dont mention that Jesus was the firstborn of all creation, so he was there in the very beggining, God is actually speaking to him in the the beggining of the bible (if you have a Jehovah's' witness scripture bible Im not a witness but I do study with one.)
yup.....he is GODs first creation...... the Light......most "religion"(if not all) try to say he is the creator...but he is not..... he is a creation like us.....except......... better :D
jesus is satans name for him..... :old:
This is interesting; how do you figure? My ancestors were Germanic tribespeople who worshiped Odin and the other Aesirs thousands of years before the Old Testament / Torah was written. Our oldest existing relics that we have dug up here in Norway are dated to more than 2000 years BC, or about 1000 years before the oldest books of the Old Testament / Torah was written. The Hebrew people originated in Sumeria (Iraq) and didn't start traveling until about 1900 BC when they left for Egypt because of drought, and where enslaved for 300 years by the Pharaohs.
There have been people living in Europe since at least 700,000 years BC. The oldest human fossil in Europe was found near Heidelberg, Germany and dates back to 650,000 BC.
its been a long time since I read that...it is possible I am wrong.....as far as that goes....I am trying to find some info but damn...there is so much different info.....
I also was under the impression the earliest books of the old testament are more like 3-5000 years old.
I am by no means a history scholar.....
the lost tribes of Israelite as far as I knew went over the Caucasus mountains and became...the Aryan races..... :headscratch:
Oh, my mistake... Howeeeever, I don't believe in any Biblical creation myth......
so you think we just happened.... :headscratch:
well thats one I can say for sure is wrong....we did not just happen...we were created....by intelligent design.....is it how "religion" says?....(that the world is only 5-7000 years old)....absolutely not....the world is much older then what organized religion tries to say.
Adam and Eve were also not the first people created....there were people long before them....
gotta stop this topic....ridding the edge and I dont want to disrespect the house.....
if you want to ask why I believe GOD is real you are more then welcome to PM me :salute
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:rofl :lol :rofl :lol Ink you heathen, see what you started? right off the tracks... :rofl
i'm gonna take my helmet and crayons to another sand box until the stone age passes... :neener:
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:rofl :lol :rofl :lol Ink you heathen, see what you started? right off the tracks... :rofl
i'm gonna take my helmet and crayons to another sand box until the stone age passes... :neener:
:o
I love Yahaveh and talking about him.....I did Tattoo his name on me twice for a reason :D...I wish we could have open discussions....anyone who wants to talk about it is more then welcome to PM me..... :salute
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Yes there are historical accounts of the lost tribes of Israel (perhaps two of the tribes) traveling to Europe in the 7th or 8th century BC... where some of them were subjugated by the Roman Republic. The rest were undoubtedly assimilated into the European cultures they encountered, or killed off. The earliest books of the Old Testament is thought to have been written about the 8th century BC, making them almost 3000 years old. This coincides with other historical clues as to the events told in the books.
I have a rule I try to follow and that is never ask a man why he married his wife, bought his car or believe in [insert favorite Deity]. No good can come from it. ;)
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yup.....he is GODs first creation...... the Light......most "religion"(if not all) try to say he is the creator...but he is not..... he is a creation like us.....except......... better :D
jesus is satans name for him..... :old:
ever wonder who GOD is talking to when he says 'let there be light'? Now ya know.
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Yes there are historical accounts of the lost tribes of Israel (perhaps two of the tribes) traveling to Europe in the 7th or 8th century BC... where some of them were subjugated by the Roman Republic. The rest were undoubtedly assimilated into the European cultures they encountered, or killed off. The earliest books of the Old Testament is thought to have been written about the 8th century BC, making them almost 3000 years old. This coincides with other historical clues as to the events told in the books.
I have a rule I try to follow and that is never ask a man why he married his wife, bought his car or believe in [insert favorite Deity]. No good can come from it. ;)
I understand..... :salute
although I think the only way to get past differences is to talk about them.....I didn't grow up in religion...as a matter of fact I hated GOD quite a bit when I was younger....but my life taught me the most important thing in this world is LOVE...and with LOVE all things are possible....even someone like me seeing the light.
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Gentlemen.
We who read and post here, think of everything we have in common.
If we cannot show respect to each other with all that we do share, how can we then demand of others, so different from us, to show respect to us?
A civilized man surely leads by example.
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I understand..... :salute
although I think the only way to get past differences is to talk about them.....I didn't grow up in religion...as a matter of fact I hated GOD quite a bit when I was younger....but my life taught me the most important thing in this world is LOVE...and with LOVE all things are possible....even someone like me seeing the light.
Our only real difference is faith. I think we're both pretty much on the same page with regards to good, evil, and morality in general. I have no quarrel with your religion (no biggies at least). :salute
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Sorry that one got past me.
Cockney rhyming slang for 'believe it'. Thought I was being witty :(
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it made me :)
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OK, who broke into my smoke box and passed them out, you're all acting like a buncha hippies in here today! :D :cheers:
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Cockney rhyming slang for 'believe it'. Thought I was being witty :(
Im sure those in the know got a chuckle
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I don't believe in Intelligent Design because we have the most stupid noses and silly feet. What kind of designer created those :old:
Gentlemen.
We who read and post here, think of everything we have in common.
If we cannot show respect to each other with all that we do share, how can we then demand of others, so different from us, to show respect to us?
A civilized man surely leads by example.
Well said Zoney :salute
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I don't believe in Intelligent Design because we have the most stupid noses and silly feet. What kind of designer created those :old:
Well said Zoney :salute
:rofl
you nut
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Anyone watch the TV program Ancient Aliens?
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Anyone watch the TV program Ancient Aliens?
yeah...sometimes i have to put extra padding in my tinfoil hat, but i find it mostly interesting. a lot of questions that cannot be answered...but wait, hold on there, we are way off the tracks here fellas...need to stay on topic here.
this entire thing started off because someone made a movie that aparently disrespects the great prophet and every rug hugger in the sand dunes now feels like they are justified in reacting with violence...how much longer is the world going to tolerate medieval behavior?
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:rofl
you nut
:lol
how much longer is the world going to tolerate medieval behavior?
Until the world is ready to move on to a higher level.
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:lol
Until the world is ready to move on to a higher level.
SO TRUE
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:lol
Until the world is ready to move on to a higher level.
sad to say it will not happen in this age.....
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The Lemba's
They have the Priestly Cohanim gene on their Y chromosome.
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I'm gonna steal Steve's line, because I don't think he posts here anymore. "They don't read English, think they are holding up signs that say "@$#% America!". :bolt: :bolt:
More like photoshop images that replaced what was really on them.....
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I don't believe in Intelligent Design because we have the most stupid noses and silly feet. What kind of designer created those :old:
I have the best feet and nose in this game :old:
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I have the best feet and nose in this game :old:
But a leaky bottom :rofl
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But a leaky bottom :rofl
*CLEAN UP IN AISLE SIX, CLEAN UP IN AISLE SIX*... you sir now have monitor clean up duty.
black coffee through the nose is not a good thing...
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And here we go again.. With my morning coffee, I see!
Feds detain the Film Maker, for, whatever reason they can dream up..
Include a nice perp walk, even though he isn't under arrest.. Providing
a wonderful media circus for the Statist Flakes to rally around..
Next step..
Now, owned media presstitutes, and their traitorous power hungry
politician allies, will use this as an excuse to create some idiotic
legislation, that defiles our Constitutional 1st amendment rights..
The argument will be, that freedom of speech is a threat to
National Security, thus turning "National Security" on its head!
Providing pretext, to turn this massive security apparatus loose
on the American people themselves.. The traitors jubilee can begin!
Never let a good crisis go to waste, right??? Don't have one, create one!
This will be used as part of the ongoing campaign to subjugate US law
and our Constitutional rights, to Foreign Dictate.. From people who
ARE NOT EVEN ELECTED, even by their own people, never mind ours..
I hope I'm wrong..
But watch and see..
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And here we go again.. With my morning coffee, I see!
Feds detain the Film Maker, for, whatever reason they can dream up..
Include a nice perp walk, even though he isn't under arrest.. Providing
a wonderful media circus for the Statist Flakes to rally around..
Next step..
Now, owned media presstitutes, and their traitorous power hungry
politician allies, will use this as an excuse to create some idiotic
legislation, that defiles our Constitutional 1st amendment rights..
The argument will be, that freedom of speech is a threat to
National Security, thus turning "National Security" on its head!
Providing pretext, to turn this massive security apparatus loose
on the American people themselves.. The traitors jubilee can begin!
Never let a good crisis go to waste, right??? Don't have one, create one!
This will be used as part of the ongoing campaign to subjugate US law
and our Constitutional rights, to Foreign Dictate.. From people who
ARE NOT EVEN ELECTED, even by their own people, never mind ours..
I hope I'm wrong..
But watch and see..
if he is on a temporary visa, kick him out! why? because his opinion is meant to start a war.
indeed this is officially a case of what will the vile government do next. stay tuned.
I hope the p.c. politicians dont twist this to get a VOTE! time, will, tell.
edit: reading a story on this guy i gather:
we will not be so lucky to have him deported back to egypt.
He is on probation for bank fraud, and banned from using the internet.
Convicted meth head.
awesome, wtg guy! :bhead
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And here we go again.. With my morning coffee, I see!
Feds detain the Film Maker, for, whatever reason they can dream up..
Include a nice perp walk, even though he isn't under arrest.. Providing
a wonderful media circus for the Statist Flakes to rally around..
Next step..
Now, owned media presstitutes, and their traitorous power hungry
politician allies, will use this as an excuse to create some idiotic
legislation, that defiles our Constitutional 1st amendment rights..
The argument will be, that freedom of speech is a threat to
National Security, thus turning "National Security" on its head!
Providing pretext, to turn this massive security apparatus loose
on the American people themselves.. The traitors jubilee can begin!
Never let a good crisis go to waste, right??? Don't have one, create one!
This will be used as part of the ongoing campaign to subjugate US law
and our Constitutional rights, to Foreign Dictate.. From people who
ARE NOT EVEN ELECTED, even by their own people, never mind ours..
I hope I'm wrong..
But watch and see..
"Foreign Dictate"? Enlighten me :)
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And here we go again.. With my morning coffee, I see!
I see a potential solution, right after his morning coffee, RageFinder goes on a psychedelic paranoia trip. Drink tea instead :old:
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if he is on a temporary visa, kick him out! why? because his opinion is meant to start a war.
indeed this is officially a case of what will the vile government do next. stay tuned.
I hope the p.c. politicians dont twist this to get a VOTE! time, will, tell.
edit: reading a story on this guy i gather:
we will not be so lucky to have him deported back to egypt.
He is on probation for bank fraud, and banned from using the internet.
Convicted meth head.
awesome, wtg guy! :bhead
:lol Yeah, the guy was a real winner.. Looks like the Feds had their hooks in him already..
Doesn't surprise me, seems to be a common thread in all these events..
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where ya at RngFndr, see the latest news this morning? seems rug huggers around the world have really got their diapers in a wad and are being encouraged by the cave dwelling goat humpers of al qaeda.
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i thought we would hear something about how mr. obama told the israelis to "not drag us into a war"
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where ya at RngFndr, see the latest news this morning? seems rug huggers around the world have really got their diapers in a wad and are being encouraged by the cave dwelling goat humpers of al qaeda.
Yeah, I'm reading up on it..
Seems the State Dept deleted the memo that alerted them days before the event.. Hmmmm :lol
Is this a Gliewitz event??? The same forces that worked the "Gaza Flotilla" are in this too..
Tellin ya, this stinks of collusion, like a prepared provocation, and prepared response!
The PTB, are looking for a war, A BIG ONE.. Because ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE IN WAR..
They can grab power, clear their corrupt banker owners books.. Provide cover for all
the Flaming crimes already perpetrated.. All they need, is a "National Emergency"..
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The PTB are doing very nicely with out a big war. :)
They already have the power :)
And they'll couldn't care less about clearing the books :)
Its all about control, we can't have people thinking for themselves they will kick he trough over :rofl
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Its all about control, we can't have people thinking for themselves they will kick he trough over :rofl
hasn't that been the case since the first man to be crowned king?
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No in America your all free :old:
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No in America your all free :old:
No, they have Laws.
True unadulteraded freedom is Anarchy :old:
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where ya at RngFndr, see the latest news this morning? seems rug huggers around the world have really got their diapers in a wad and are being encouraged by the cave dwelling goat humpers of al qaeda.
Politically incorrect? Yes. Ban hammer strike imminent? Very likely. Justified? Absobleedin'lutely :old:
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Politically incorrect? Yes. Ban hammer strike imminent? Very likely. Justified? Absobleedin'lutely :old:
amazing...wrong on 2 out of 3 counts.
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I see a potential solution, right after his morning coffee, RageFinder goes on a psychedelic paranoia trip. Drink tea instead :old:
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I posted this on The GFC site :old:
"Someone made a Video and they start burning flags and setting fire to things, then again when I saw "Four Weddings and a Funeral" with Hugh Grant I felt the same"
:old:
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(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/09/17/1226475/619545-childsign.jpg)
This picture was taken at a riot in Australia...
^^^^^^
Religion.... hooray.
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(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/09/17/1226475/619545-childsign.jpg)
This picture was taken at a riot in Australia...
^^^^^^
Religion.... hooray.
It's not religion... it's the folks with few IQ
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This has gone on a global scale Middle East, Africa, Great Britain, Europe, Australia, Indonesia, Asia. Just today a number of US and other friendly troops have gotten shot and killed by Afghanistan soldiers in training. Five of said soldiers who did such act, have gotten away.
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It's not religion... it's the folks with few IQ
religion does not kill people. people kill people. DUHHHHHHHHHHH .
there must be some stupid people in this world if they think religion is at fault. my goodness [please help these] people.
still not convinced?
THINK ABOUT IT!
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This has gone on a global scale Middle East, Africa, Great Britain, Europe, Australia, Indonesia, Asia. Just today a number of US and other friendly troops have gotten shot and killed by Afghanistan soldiers in training. Five of said soldiers who did such act, have gotten away.
i think its time to go.
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Hopefully one day we stop needing gas and there won't be any American interest in the Middle East for these clowns to use religion as thier weapon. Not saying religion is the problem but the 'opiate of the masses' is deffinatly being used to recruit and incite among the less learned in the region. Even a dirt poor farmer that could care less about his goverment can be fooled into attacking by using his religion against him.
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Hopefully one day we stop needing gas and there won't be any American interest in the Middle East for these clowns to use religion as thier weapon. Not saying religion is the problem but the 'opiate of the masses' is deffinatly being used to recruit and incite among the less learned in the region. Even a dirt poor farmer that could care less about his goverment can be fooled into attacking by using his religion against him.
If your country was being occupied and my home, friends and family possibly becoming 'collateral damage' in the process, would you require a religious motive to be 'fooled' into fighting back?
Not saying religion isn't part of the problem btw :)
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If your country was being occupied and my home, friends and family possibly becoming 'collateral damage' in the process, would you require a religious motive to be 'fooled' into fighting back?
Not saying religion isn't part of the problem btw :)
I didn't know Libya was occupied, or Egypt or Yemen or any of the other countires where hate is being shown. Religion isn't part of the problem perversion of religion is the problem Coombz. I was once told by a Muslim from Nigeria that the Quran teaches not to harm even a leaf on a tree and he doesn't understand the suicide bombings in the least so how can you have a religion that teaches not to harm being used as the catlyst to drive ignortant people to extreme?
Alos what happens lets say in a few years the Maori decide they are tired of Europeans occupying their lands and they start blowing up police precincts or buses as a means to drive you out would you be okay with that?
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I didn't know Libya was occupied, or Egypt or Yemen or any of the other countires where hate is being shown. Religion isn't part of the problem perversion of religion is the problem Coombz. I was once told by a Muslim from Nigeria that the Quran teaches not to harm even a leaf on a tree and he doesn't understand the suicide bombings in the least so how can you have a religion that teaches not to harm being used as the catlyst to drive ignortant people to extreme?
How indeed!
I like the phrase perversion of religion :) that's very apt. Although it does conjure images of Catholic priests, which I know is not what you're getting at.
As for Maori wanting pakeha off their land, i'd certainly sympathise if it happened. We have treated them pretty badly in past. But most of them don't seem to hold a grudge. I attended a Maori ceremony of welcome today, a whakatau, at my workplace, it was very cool.
Did you know that in Maori words that are spelt 'whaka' are pronounced 'fu**er'? :D
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How indeed!
I like the phrase perversion of religion :) that's very apt. Although it does conjure images of Catholic priests, which I know is not what you're getting at.
As for Maori wanting pakeha off their land, i'd certainly sympathise if it happened. We have treated them pretty badly in past. But most of them don't seem to hold a grudge. I attended a Maori ceremony of welcome today, a whakatau, at my workplace, it was very cool.
Did you know that in Maori words that are spelt 'whaka' are pronounced 'fu**er'? :D
So because you aren't threatend by an insurgency you feel their tactics are ok and if it did happen you wouldn't be upset about it even though you are raising a little pakeha of your own and as such an occupying force? Yes coombz i have every reason to bellive that and Yes i know that Whaka is pronunced as whatever F**Ker is why wouldnt I? Also doesn't explain why Egypt and Libya are consistant problems when it comes to terrorism we dint occupy them.
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So because you aren't threatend by an insurgency you feel their tactics are ok and if it did happen you wouldn't be upset about it even though you are raising a little pakeha of your own and as such an occupying force? Yes coombz i have every reason to bellive that and Yes i know that Whaka is pronunced as whatever F**Ker is why wouldnt I? Also doesn't explain why Egypt and Libya are consistant problems when it comes to terrorism we dint occupy them.
So much wrong in one post it beggars belief :old: First off when did I say anything in this thread about insurgent tactics and whether they are OK or not?
They are pretty underhand tactics I guess as far as it goes, but in some ways they can be quite ingenious. Although I'm mostly thinking of the IRA and Viet Cong when I say that, I don't know too much about insurgency tactics in recent times except of course the ever popular IEDs.
It's irrelevant though because all I have discussed is possible reasons for the dislike for the western powers in certain places, I haven't been excusing them for attacks or commenting on the methods used
Secondly I don't think I quite qualify as an occupying force, in fact your whole premise is kind of idiotic and extremely tangetial at best...but I'll humour you anyway. I said I would sympathise with hypothetical Maori insurgents because after all, they did kind of have their country stolen from them. The same way I kind of sympathise with native Americans, Aborigines, the Vietnamese who were fighting various countries for years and years on end, and many other small countries/peoples that have been invaded and occupied or otherwise f**ked over by larger powers. But that's just the way it goes sometimes.
I didn't suggest I would simply roll over and let them kill me and my family just because I think they might have a just cause, nor did I say anyone else should do the same in similar situations.
Thirdly you said Libya and Egypt are consistently involved with terrorism, I wasn't aware that it was a frequent thing but you're evidently more informed then me when it comes to what those pesky Muslims are up to...care to enlighten me?
edit: btw that last part isn't sarcasm, I honestly don't know about any Libyan/Egyptian terror attacks beyond these very recent shenanigans
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c mob stirs the pot. one day he will get his way and we will be left with nothing.
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c mob stirs the pot. one day he will get his way and we will be left with nothing.
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Hopefully one day we stop needing gas
I just jumped right into this thread but I had to correct this statement. I'm a Louisiana Callahan and drilling oil has been a part of my family for 70 years. My grand father owned share in a rig based out of mexico in the 60's. Anyways, the USA and the world will always need crude oil. There are hundreds maybe even thousands of everyday products we use that require crude oil in some way. Sythetic or other natural oils can't replace it all.
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It's not religion... it's the folks with few IQ
Nonsense I don't burn flags :old:
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Hopefully one day we stop needing gas and there won't be any American interest in the Middle East
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I thought we get petrol and oil from the Middle east?
Gas is like Helium,Hydrogen or Chlorine :old:
I have a gas cooker at home its not oil or petrol :old:
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Thirdly you said Libya and Egypt are consistently involved with terrorism, I wasn't aware that it was a frequent thing but you're evidently more informed then me when it comes to what those pesky Muslims are up to...care to enlighten me?
edit: btw that last part isn't sarcasm, I honestly don't know about any Libyan/Egyptian terror attacks beyond these very recent shenanigans
Are you young? The Lockerbie Bombing was very much in the news at the time and sanctions against Libya were in place after that.
Pan Am Flight 103 disaster, also commonly referred to as the Lockerbie bombing, was the bombing of a Pan Am transatlantic flight from London Heathrow Airport to New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday, 21 December 1988. A Boeing 747–121, named Clipper Maid of the Seas, was totally destroyed by an explosive device killing all 243 passengers and 16 crew members.[2] Large sections of the plane crashed into Lockerbie, in southern Scotland, killing a further 11 people on the ground.
Following a three-year joint investigation by Scottish police and the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation, murder warrants were issued for two Libyan nationals in November 1991.
In Egypt a series of attacks against Tourists have occured for many years.
http://www.usdivetravel.com/T-EgyptTerrorism.html (http://www.usdivetravel.com/T-EgyptTerrorism.html)
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I just jumped right into this thread but I had to correct this statement. I'm a Louisiana Callahan and drilling oil has been a part of my family for 70 years. My grand father owned share in a rig based out of mexico in the 60's. Anyways, the USA and the world will always need crude oil. There are hundreds maybe even thousands of everyday products we use that require crude oil in some way. Sythetic or other natural oils can't replace it all.
that is quite true unfortunately. thing is the sooner we can get to the point where our crude oil needs can be fulfilled by domestic production only, the better off we will be.
Coombz, we don't "occupy", egypt, syria, lybia, iran, lebanon, algeria, turkey, pakistan, ethiopia, etc...etc...etc... not including so called "peace keeping" forces, there are what amounts to diplomatic protection forces of varying sizes deployed everywhere they are allowed by the host countries, except for iraq and afghanistan obviously. even the kiwis have such deployments. the people who were killed in lybia were not part of an "occupying force" and the murderous little rug huggers had no business attacking them. it's too bad our government is more protective of foreign diplomatic property on american soil than the governments in other countries are of ours. the violence in the muslim nations is and has been perpetuated by radical anti-american fundamentalist cave dwellers and their ignorant followers that have been brainwashed into believing that anyone who doesn't believe as they do has to die.
I thought we get petrol and oil from the Middle east?
Gas is like Helium,Hydrogen or Chlorine :old:
I have a gas cooker at home its not oil or petrol :old:
lmao, come on Zack, get some more tea in your blood stream. it's liquid petroleum (lp) gas you're burning in your "gas cooker". petrol as you call it is refined from crude oil. the crude oil could be from pretty much anywhere.
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I thought we get petrol and oil from the Middle east?
Gas is like Helium,Hydrogen or Chlorine :old:
I have a gas cooker at home its not oil or petrol :old:
Is this how you cook your pies?
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Football is Rugby and Gas is Petrol :rofl
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Football is Rugby and Gas is Petrol :rofl
I thought in Europe Football is Soccer and Gas the result from those nasty Meat Pies. :eek:
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Football is Rugby and Gas is Petrol :rofl
what do you call the "gaseous" substance that leaks from your bottom? :lol
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Coombz- you obviously have such contempt for Western Civilization and feel that they are victimizing entire Middle East. Why do you not just go live in one of these Middle Eastern countries? This obviously would be utopia for you and you could be quite at home with that anti-colonialism mindset. It is quite a serious question. Or would you prefer to live in nice little New Zealand?
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what do you call the "gaseous" substance that leaks from your bottom? :lol
The "410" :old:
New Zealand is in the Middle of nowhere :)
Coombzy is just in a bad mood thats why he left the UK, I can't be in such a mind set it affects my good looks and sparkly personality
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I just jumped right into this thread but I had to correct this statement. I'm a Louisiana Callahan and drilling oil has been a part of my family for 70 years. My grand father owned share in a rig based out of mexico in the 60's. Anyways, the USA and the world will always need crude oil. There are hundreds maybe even thousands of everyday products we use that require crude oil in some way. Sythetic or other natural oils can't replace it all.
OK granted hopefully we wont need their gas
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lmao, come on Zack, get some more tea in your blood stream. it's liquid petroleum (lp) gas you're burning in your "gas cooker". petrol as you call it is refined from crude oil. the crude oil could be from pretty much anywhere.
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Erm no its not. its methane :)
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So much wrong in one post it beggars belief :old: First off when did I say anything in this thread about insurgent tactics and whether they are OK or not?
They are pretty underhand tactics I guess as far as it goes, but in some ways they can be quite ingenious. Although I'm mostly thinking of the IRA and Viet Cong when I say that, I don't know too much about insurgency tactics in recent times except of course the ever popular IEDs.
It's irrelevant though because all I have discussed is possible reasons for the dislike for the western powers in certain places, I haven't been excusing them for attacks or commenting on the methods used
Secondly I don't think I quite qualify as an occupying force, in fact your whole premise is kind of idiotic and extremely tangetial at best...but I'll humour you anyway. I said I would sympathise with hypothetical Maori insurgents because after all, they did kind of have their country stolen from them. The same way I kind of sympathise with native Americans, Aborigines, the Vietnamese who were fighting various countries for years and years on end, and many other small countries/peoples that have been invaded and occupied or otherwise f**ked over by larger powers. But that's just the way it goes sometimes.
I didn't suggest I would simply roll over and let them kill me and my family just because I think they might have a just cause, nor did I say anyone else should do the same in similar situations.
Thirdly you said Libya and Egypt are consistently involved with terrorism, I wasn't aware that it was a frequent thing but you're evidently more informed then me when it comes to what those pesky Muslims are up to...care to enlighten me?
edit: btw that last part isn't sarcasm, I honestly don't know about any Libyan/Egyptian terror attacks beyond these very recent shenanigans
Coombzy I asked you plain and simple would you be OK with a insurgency blowing up policy station and buses and you say you "sympathise" with them. Most intelligent people will stand next to their convictions, when they state them. You expound your views all over this formum but i have yet to see you not back track when you are put to the screw. Stand by your statement, but then again I guess someone that is OK with innocents being killed in Iraq when a bus is exploded in a crowdeed market in an apttempt to kill 4 troops, isn't very stalwart when it comes to ideal and their convictions. You are not one of the original people from New Zeland and that Island was taken by force sou you are an occupying force no sense in arguing it fact say you are, and you also stated that if the native peoples of your land rose up in rebelion you would be sympathetic to their cause. I wonder how the folks that issued your Visa would view thta statement?
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Left off the 'S' meant to say Intrests
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Erm no its not. its methane :)
I always suspected zack having one that was 'human waste' powered. He's always gassing.
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Coombz- you obviously have such contempt for Western Civilization and feel that they are victimizing entire Middle East. Why do you not just go live in one of these Middle Eastern countries? This obviously would be utopia for you and you could be quite at home with that anti-colonialism mindset. It is quite a serious question. Or would you prefer to live in nice little New Zealand?
I have contempt for certain types of people, sure...and I'm not fond of recent foreign policy in the Middle East (and we haven't even touched on America being Israel's little b***h yet :) ), but it is a bit of a stretch to go from there to saying I have contempt for Western Civilization. It is what it is. I recognise that I am very lucky to have been born where I was born, and that a lot of people have been a lot less fortunate, and I don't think on it much more than that.
As for New Zealand, yeah I like it very much so far :aok But I've only been here since January so who knows. Maybe I'll get fed up with the place or terribly homesick or something.
Coombzy I asked you plain and simple would you be OK with a insurgency blowing up policy station and buses and you say you "sympathise" with them. Most intelligent people will stand next to their convictions, when they state them. You expound your views all over this formum but i have yet to see you not back track when you are put to the screw. Stand by your statement, but then again I guess someone that is OK with innocents being killed in Iraq when a bus is exploded in a crowdeed market in an apttempt to kill 4 troops, isn't very stalwart when it comes to ideal and their convictions. You are not one of the original people from New Zeland and that Island was taken by force sou you are an occupying force no sense in arguing it fact say you are, and you also stated that if the native peoples of your land rose up in rebelion you would be sympathetic to their cause.
I don't think of it as backtracking, I think of it as either debunking ridiculous straw man arguments or dumb a** comments, or in your case, both.
In the past when we were first colonising NZ, sure, I would have been an occupying force. I am not an occupying force now. Trying to draw a parrallel between me living in New Zealand now and potentially making Maori people angry, and military forces occupying Afghanistan or Iraq and making the native people there angry, is absolutely moronic.
Your example of a bus blowing up in a market in an attempt to kill troops and taking out innocents at the same time. I wouldn't be OK with that - I would and do recognise the need for those responsible (or their leaders and comrades) to be stopped to prevent more killings.
All I am saying is that I can understand why they are pissed off enough to want to blow people up. Simple as that.
And I said somewhere (in another thread), that if it was my country that had been invaded and occupied, I would probably be trying to kill people or blow them up as well. Wouldn't you?
I wonder how the folks that issued your Visa would view thta statement?
are you threatening me? :rofl
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Coombzy needs teepee for his... :D
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Dolby is a Young Tory that's why he is so angry all the time :old:
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Coombz its always someone elses fault ou have to be obnoxious I love that about you I ddont have time to play your games gho back read you trolls abnd youll see th eback track, so now its not ook to figth the way insrugents fight and you dont appove of the tactices used?
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Coombz its always someone elses fault ou have to be obnoxious I love that about you I ddont have time to play your games gho back read you trolls abnd youll see th eback track, so now its not ook to figth the way insrugents fight and you dont appove of the tactices used?
You mean play my games where things have to actually make sense? lol
All my instincts tell me I should just ignore you now, but what the hell
There is certainly an inherent contradiction in the two statements in my previous post, so maybe I can see what you're getting at :)
I said both that I agree that the insurgent groups responsible for things like blowing up buses in marketplaces (just using your example here) need to be stopped AND at the same time I said that if it was my country that had been invaded and occupied I would probably be doing the same thing...although, I would probably try not to blow up any of my own people while I was at it, that seems a bit dumb
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You mean play my games where things have to actually make sense? lol
All my instincts tell me I should just ignore you now, but what the hell
There is certainly an inherent contradiction in the two statements in my previous post, so maybe I can see what you're getting at :)
I said both that I agree that the insurgent groups responsible for things like blowing up buses in marketplaces (just using your example here) need to be stopped AND at the same time I said that if it was my country that had been invaded and occupied I would probably be doing the same thing...although, I would probably try not to blow up any of my own people while I was at it, that seems a bit dumb
So..your saying if all the other insurgents were jumping of bridges you would too, but you woudl disapprove? What happend to the famed Brittish resolve the very fact you replyied to my post despite your better judgement(instinct) tell s me you have a problem with not being selective with what you put out there.
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I would do a shallow dive from the bridge in order to intercept the insurgents before they reached the target, then open my chute and kill all those that managed to land with my .45
edit: Yes, I have a problem. As previously discussed in another thread I find it hard to stop myself from arguing with people who make stupid posts on the internet :<
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Dolby is a Young Tory that's why he is so angry all the time :old:
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The former is true, but the latter is incorrect.
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dey terk err jerbs!
G'damn goobacks
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dey terk err jerbs!
G'damn goobacks
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comedy episode
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Coombzy needs teepee for his... :D
I'm not sure of the answer to this... Judging by the quality of persona, I'd say mouth.
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I would do a shallow dive from the bridge in order to intercept the insurgents before they reached the target, then open my chute and kill all those that managed to land with my .45
edit: Yes, I have a problem. As previously discussed in another thread I find it hard to stop myself from arguing with people who make stupid posts on the internet :<
What a noob real mean use a knife get some dogtags.
So you fight fire with fire? Glad to know we finally have something you will stand beside the fact you fight stupid posts with nonsensical posts Is like calling a truck a Lorry same thing. I think you average the words "stupid" or "idiotic" every 3.67 posts when I think you should be using "ignorant" but I guess you dint really have that big of a grasp of the nuances of the language.
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The U.S. ambassador in Lybia (The one that died) is in a country that is not a great friend of the U.S. to say the least...is guarded by Marines not allowed to have loaded weapons...and dies to people attacking it on 9/11...
The Presidents Chief of Staff Valerie Jarret (some call her the president by proxy) goes on vacation in that terroist filled mecca of Marthas Vineyard and she has a full Secret Service detail to guard her.......
Anyone see something wrong with that picture?
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What a noob real mean use a knife get some dogtags.
So you fight fire with fire? Glad to know we finally have something you will stand beside the fact you fight stupid posts with nonsensical posts Is like calling a truck a Lorry same thing. I think you average the words "stupid" or "idiotic" every 3.67 posts when I think you should be using "ignorant" but I guess you dint really have that big of a grasp of the nuances of the language.
If I used the words that I really think I'd be banned :) I have to tone it down somewhat and probably do overuse words like 'stupid' 'idiotic' and 'moronic'. But then, it might also be perceptual bias on your part, because I most often have to use those words after reading one of your attempts to challenge my posts.
It's kinda funny that you would try to attack my grasp of language when most of your posts are barely legible (although I guess I will accept your previous excuse which was that your fat fingers have trouble with the small keys when posting from your phone :salute). Whereas I have worked for over 10 years writing and editing for magazines, major publishing companies and government organisations.
Keep grasping at straws, if you try hard enough and make enough posts, statistically speaking you're likely to get something right eventually...a million monkeys and a million typewriters and all that...
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If I used the words that I really think I'd be banned :) I have to tone it down somewhat and probably do overuse words like 'stupid' 'idiotic' and 'moronic'. But then, it might also be perceptual bias on your part, because I most often have to use those words after reading one of your attempts to challenge my posts.
It's kinda funny that you would try to attack my grasp of language when most of your posts are barely legible (although I guess I will accept your previous excuse which was that your fat fingers have trouble with the small keys when posting from your phone:salute). Whereas I have worked for over 10 years writing and editing for magazines, major publishing companies and government organisations.
Keep grasping at straws, if you try hard enough and make enough posts, statistically speaking you're likely to get something right eventually...a million monkeys and a million typewriters and all that...
Coombzy at this point I don't think you have the analytical prowess to claim 10 years editing much beyond a bowl of alphabet soup.
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Coombzy at this point I don't think you have the analytical prowess to claim 10 years editing much beyond a bowl of alphabet soup.
Yeah good one man
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Yeah good one man
Shoulda stuck to your instincts, took me awhile to drag something worthwile out of you :aok All in all, calm down a little huh no reason to be in attack mode ALL the time.
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no reason to be in attack mode ALL the time.
Get him Coombz, bite him!
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Get him Coombz, bite him!
I got something for you to bite Shida....a pie! ....never mind, where the pie go? Zack! have you stolen the good bitin pie I made for Shida?
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Get him Coombz, bite him!
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Ahh I get it HamHawk was just pretending to be dumb in order to mess with me, nice work man you really had me fooled :aok
If gibberish posting in order to illicit a response is your thing you should come on over to TW and post there, you will fit right in. Someone will have to teach you tribe talk but it is easy to pick up, and in fact it's probably much more suitable to someone trying to make quick posts on a phone while at work than it is for you to actually try and write properly.
I would put an example of tribe talk in here to try and tempt you over to the darkside, but it would probably promote apoplectic rage on the part of most people here, and with good reason.
Maybe I'll save it for another thread.
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Ahh I get it HamHawk was just pretending to be dumb in order to mess with me, nice work man you really had me fooled :aok
actually no the million monkeys and million type writers came up with that last week. i r reely that dum.
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if the million monkeys are also responsible for all the icepac gags you've been posting, then they owe me (in the popular parlance of the AH forums) 'a wipe down of my monitor for the coffee I spit on it'
i don't drink coffee but you get the idea
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Just reminded me of a Beatrix Potter story I've been reading lately. :lol
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Infinate Monkeys you daft sod.
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Infinate Monkeys you daft sod.
I'm glad there is someone round here who is always right even more often than me :old:
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I'm glad there is someone round here who is always right even more often than me :old:
:)
I just wanted to beat shida to it :P
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and it was all for a fake film.
http://news.yahoo.com/anti-muslim-film-hoax-225533597.html
semp
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Infinate Monkeys you daft sod.
Infinite Monkeys. :old:
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Gee I wonder why the people I just bombed a few months ago, installed a new dictator to serve my interests and took their natural ressources are angry with me.
Keep voting for these rich salamanders who will gladly send your kids off to die for their profits. Never dare to question them why their sons are never on the frontline fighting the wars they so desperatly called for. But always remember they hate us for our freedom!
As I will inevitably be flamed for this I will leave you with this brilliant quote from Bill Hicks:
Go back to bed, America. Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. Here. Here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their diddlying skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go, America! You are free to do as we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!
Queue for flames here, charges may apply. :cheers:
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Gee I wonder why the people I just bombed a few months ago, installed a new dictator to serve my interests and took their natural ressources are angry with me.
Keep voting for these rich salamanders who will gladly send your kids off to die for their profits. Never dare to question them why their sons are never on the frontline fighting the wars they so desperatly called for. But always remember they hate us for our freedom!
As I will inevitably be flamed for this I will leave you with this brilliant quote from Bill Hicks:
Queue for flames here, charges may apply. :cheers:
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You relaise that american gladiators hasnt been on for years, your quote should read: ......Go back to bed, America. Here is 'here comes honey boo Boo' Here is 56 channels of it!....(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m96sn8Q9p21qgtikv.png)
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geez Nathan, gonna start breaking out the spelling bee crayons on you man. what are you using a dumb phone?
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geez Nathan, gonna start breaking out the spelling bee crayons on you man. what are you using a dumb phone?
It's more of a transposition issue than a spelling, all the letters are there.
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:lol
A few years ago the Royal Marines supposedly discovered that their fire and manouvre tactics were not working as planned against insurgent who were keen on getting capped and rushing off to deflower 70 odd virgins.
They let it be known through local tribal chiefs that they had dipped all their rounds in pig fat before loading them.
Problem solved, Terry rapidly got his swede below cover at the thought of an unclean demise :rofl
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:lol
A few years ago the Royal Marines supposedly discovered that their fire and manouvre tactics were not working as planned against insurgent who were keen on getting capped and rushing off to deflower 70 odd virgins.
They let it be known through local tribal chiefs that they had dipped all their rounds in pig fat before loading them.
Problem solved, Terry rapidly got his swede below cover at the thought of an unclean demise :rofl
then why are they still fighting?
semp
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I was born in Afganistan :old:
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then why are they still fighting?
semp
Because fear of dying does not stop people fighting. Fear of going to hell, or whatever their individual perception of hell is, does not stop people from fighting. This merely made them keep their heads down more.
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then why are they still fighting?
semp
Becaise fear of dying rarely stops pepple fighting, fear of going to hell, or to whtever their perception of hell is, does not stop people fighting. This merely made them keep their heads down a bit.. As a rule the vast majority of Afghan fighting for the Taliban, and those in the ANA and ANP are routinely stoned right out of their tiny minds
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Because fear of dying does not stop people fighting. Fear of going to hell, or whatever their individual perception of hell is, does not stop people from fighting. This merely made them keep their heads down more.
then stop passing out lies as truth like you did here.
:lol
A few years ago the Royal Marines supposedly discovered that their fire and manouvre tactics were not working as planned against insurgent who were keen on getting capped and rushing off to deflower 70 odd virgins.
They let it be known through local tribal chiefs that they had dipped all their rounds in pig fat before loading them.
Problem solved, Terry rapidly got his swede below cover at the thought of an unclean demise :rofl
sorry i tricked you into it :salute.
it's been known that that "news" developed from this
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp
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It's amazing the lies that keep coming from the administration concerning this attack. No truths just stone wall and daily disinformation.
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Then what is the truth?
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It's amazing the lies that keep coming from the administration concerning this attack. No truths just stone wall and daily disinformation.
It was Romney's fault.. Haven't you heard?
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It was Romney's fault.. Haven't you heard?
I blame Shifty...
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It was Romney's fault.. Haven't you heard?
I thought it was Bush's fault?
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I thought it was Bush's fault?
it was and he still does not know. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on...ahhhh...shame on...ahhhh"
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Remember what I said??? Hmmmm???
This is NOTHING, compared to what is coming..
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I blame Shifty...
You know my ex or something? :lol
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have you not read the forums, the new world order is coming! this is not people fighting for what they belive in, it is a master plot figured by rich people.
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It's amazing the lies that keep coming from the administration concerning this attack. No truths just stone wall and daily disinformation.
They are trying to blur the fact that the "Arab spring" that they heartily supported was just a warmer-than-average day in Autumn, and if to quote Sean Bean in Game of Throwns: "Winter is coming".