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Title: Anger Management
Post by: Zoney on September 17, 2012, 12:44:56 PM
After 40 years of smoking, I quit, cold turkey 18 days ago now.

I don't feel like smoking.

I've gotten over the habit of smoking, like doing something with your hands etc.  I used to take off, auto climb, go out to the garage, have a smoke, come back and fly, got over that too.



The one thing that I'm having alot of trouble with is anger.  Little things piss me off something terrible.

I talked to a few of ya in the game about it yesterday and it helped.

I'm posting this to give you all a heads up, a warning.  That's not me being a jerk, it's just anger.

I was a jerk to Twintail after he shot me down yesterday.  Didn't make me feel better, made me feel worse, and more angry.

I'm asking all my friends here to just for a bit longer, to be understanding.  Just ignore me if I say something mean, or stupid to you.

I really need your help with this.

Thanks,

Your friend, Zoney
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Scca on September 17, 2012, 12:55:49 PM
Now I know why I saw you in a Spit of all things...  :headscratch:  It's withdrawls....

Good luck.  Quitting isn't an easy thing. 
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Shuffler on September 17, 2012, 01:06:16 PM
After 40 years of smoking, I quit, cold turkey 18 days ago now.

I don't feel like smoking.

I've gotten over the habit of smoking, like doing something with your hands etc.  I used to take off, auto climb, go out to the garage, have a smoke, come back and fly, got over that too.



The one thing that I'm having alot of trouble with is anger.  Little things piss me off something terrible.

I talked to a few of ya in the game about it yesterday and it helped.

I'm posting this to give you all a heads up, a warning.  That's not me being a jerk, it's just anger.

I was a jerk to Twintail after he shot me down yesterday.  Didn't make me feel better, made me feel worse, and more angry.

I'm asking all my friends here to just for a bit longer, to be understanding.  Just ignore me if I say something mean, or stupid to you.

I really need your help with this.

Thanks,

Your friend, Zoney

Grats on quitting. It is the best thing you could do for yourself and those around you.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Butcher on September 17, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
Learn to vent that rage, go out to a firing range with a box full of ammo and scream "GET SOME!" while killing soda bottles and coke cans.

You feel so much better after, believe me :)
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Tracerfi on September 17, 2012, 01:17:54 PM
Well At least i know to not be annoying around Zoney so i don't Get an earful because my father is the same way
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: zack1234 on September 17, 2012, 01:23:10 PM
pies are good for anger issues :old:
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Scca on September 17, 2012, 01:24:48 PM
pies are good for anger issues :old:
Which is why I quit quitting.  All 3 times I quit for any length of time I packed on the lbs.... 
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: bongboy1 on September 17, 2012, 01:37:38 PM
Good for you Zoney  :aok  I need to quit also :frown:
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: captain1ma on September 17, 2012, 01:45:43 PM
zoney, every time i quit, i wanted to rip someones head off for the smallest thing. its nicotine withdrawal. if you cant/dont want to, get any type of welbutrin or something like that to help you, just tell yourself that its not as bad as you think. the most inane jokes would set me off to the point of raising my blood pressure. either ignore you feelings, or shut off the game and take a quick walk, it will help you clear your head, or at the very least relax you a bit, so you can go back to the game. im right with you bro, i know exactly how you feel! you are not alone! it took me over 5 years to finally quit smoking and i did it with drugs. they work and the world is now a much better place.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: MrGeezer on September 17, 2012, 01:52:20 PM
WTG Zoney, and I pray you STAY quit!! :salute

I am PROUD of you for taking the step!   Worst case scenerio--get the #3 patches at the pharmacy and put one on when you feel weak.  They WORK!

With all the wheels falling off my own health bus it's great to still be alive.  Many of my friends who smoked (like I did) are GONE.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: coombz on September 17, 2012, 01:53:01 PM
Getting off the smokes is a tough one, even though the nicotine dependency is long gone from my system I still miss smoking a lot, would probably be easier if I had another vice like alcohol to provide some relaxation but for better or worse i don't drink  :uhoh

Hang in there Zoney, it's hard but you're doing the right thing.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: RedBull1 on September 17, 2012, 01:57:07 PM
Congrats Zoney, my dad smoked for 30 or so years until he had a heart attack about 2 months ago, stopped cold turkey, I noticed he got a bit more irritable as well as he eats more now, however that's started to subside quite a bit and return to normal - without the smoking

So give it time, don't think about it, and go kill some buffs in the mean time my friend  :aok  :cheers:

 :salute
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: waystin2 on September 17, 2012, 02:07:23 PM
Hang tough Zoney.  :aok I hope to quit soon myself...
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Butcher on September 17, 2012, 02:23:48 PM
Zoney man, I gave up smoking and drinking a few times - best thing I can tell ya is avoid anything thats stressful. You probably haven't noticed but every so often I quit playing Aces High - because I quit smoking or drinking for time period.

I finally quit smoking after realizing its not helping my stress level any more then having a cigarette would. I dropped off Aces High around Feb this year to quit smoking, it was basically getting stressful rather then stress relief, I was missing the fundementals of the game - which is just a game.

Bran new computer built for Aces High - with new sticks and all, and I just walked away. What helped me was I got a set of golf clubs and some fishing gear, decided every time I would start getting stressed, take a half day aside to do some golfing or fishing.
The exercise and plus stress free environment helped me escape, I had no "withdrawals" at all. I actually started sleeping better and got more energetic.

Its not easy to walk away from your own business when you are stressed - however my family and friends stepped in at times to give me a hand. You just gotta find your own stress relief button mine clearly wasn't Aces high.

Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: gyrene81 on September 17, 2012, 02:36:53 PM
good luck Zoney, you got through the tougher parts you will get through the rest...  :cheers:
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Daddkev on September 17, 2012, 03:21:39 PM
 :rock :rock :rock WTG Bro...I got 5 years no smoking ciggs!  :banana: :banana: :banana: Its all good now. Try sugar free popsicles, last as long as a smoke and you get brainfreeze.  :old: :old: Keep it up!  :salute :salute :salute
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: skorpx1 on September 17, 2012, 03:24:34 PM
Gratz on quitting. If you're having anger problems, do something rewarding, like learning how to play an instrument. It'll keep your mind off of wanting to get a smoke and it's quite fun when you get the hang of it.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: DMGOD on September 17, 2012, 03:48:57 PM
Gratz on quitting. If you're having anger problems, do something rewarding, like learning how to play an instrument. It'll keep your mind off of wanting to get a smoke and it's quite fun when you get the hang of it.

YAY SKORPIAN IS BACK YAY
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: skorpx1 on September 17, 2012, 04:05:43 PM
YAY SKORPIAN IS BACK YAY
I thought you were done after the PM.


Hmm. First one on the ignore list. WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: DMGOD on September 17, 2012, 04:23:10 PM
I thought you were done after the PM.


Hmm. First one on the ignore list. WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

Now does HTC know that this is Skorpion who was banned from bbs on 3/18/12
or did you just get a new IP address and sneak back in?
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: skorpx1 on September 17, 2012, 04:28:47 PM
Now does HTC know that this is Skorpion who was banned from bbs on 3/18/12
or did you just get a new IP address and sneak back in?
Wouldn't doubt that they do know it's still the same guy because I haven't gotten a new IP. I came in here last week for the first time in months and I wasn't declined access. If I had been IP banned it would've kept me out. If you really need to discuss this, do it in a PM and hope I respond. I'm not willing to hijack a thread for fun.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: DMGOD on September 17, 2012, 04:52:50 PM
Wouldn't doubt that they do know it's still the same guy because I haven't gotten a new IP. I came in here last week for the first time in months and I wasn't declined access. If I had been IP banned it would've kept me out. If you really need to discuss this, do it in a PM and hope I respond. I'm not willing to hijack a thread for fun.

now if thats the case why did you start a new bbs account?
Oh and how did you read that if im the 1st on ur ignore list?
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: kvuo75 on September 17, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
After 40 years of smoking, I quit, cold turkey 18 days ago now.

I don't feel like smoking.

I've gotten over the habit of smoking, like doing something with your hands etc.  I used to take off, auto climb, go out to the garage, have a smoke, come back and fly, got over that too.


 :aok :aok :aok

i quit cold turkey last december. not a single relapse.. after smoking for 22 years from a peak of about 4 packs a day.

only real withdrawal symptom i had was mild insomnia for a few days.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: TwinBoom on September 17, 2012, 05:05:18 PM






I was a jerk to  *****TwinBoom*****/fixed/  :P after he shot me down yesterday.

Your friend, Zoney

No offense taken I have thick skin and wasn't mad at all. Glad you quit you probably extended your life span about 15 years quitting.

 :cheers: Hats off too you for the public apology although its certainly not needed bro.


P.S. I wish TwinTail would change his name I'm tired of people thinking I'm him :noid
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Butcher on September 17, 2012, 05:17:03 PM
No offense taken I have thick skin and wasn't mad at all. Glad you quit you probably extended your life span about 15 years quitting.

 :cheers: Hats off too you for the public apology although its certainly not needed bro.


P.S. I wish TwinTail would change his name I'm tired of people thinking I'm him :noid

Dont think twin vulched any shades lately, you'll be ok  :aok
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: killrDan on September 17, 2012, 05:20:40 PM
12 years now without smoking.  It's the best single thing you can do to extend your life expectancy AND your quality of life.  You can do it!!

<S>

Dan
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Zoney on September 17, 2012, 05:29:19 PM
No offense taken I have thick skin and wasn't mad at all. Glad you quit you probably extended your life span about 15 years quitting.

 :cheers: Hats off too you for the public apology although its certainly not needed bro.


P.S. I wish TwinTail would change his name I'm tired of people thinking I'm him :noid

Crap, yeah, you are the one I was trying to apologize to.  I had even visualized your avatar as I remember it and think of that as you.
Thanks for the kindness TB <S>.

BTW whom is that in your avatar ?
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: The Fugitive on September 17, 2012, 05:44:39 PM
Crap, yeah, you are the one I was trying to apologize to.  I had even visualized your avatar as I remember it and think of that as you.
Thanks for the kindness TB <S>.

BTW whom is that in your avatar ?

Major Tom Lynch, CO of the 39th FS, KIA
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: NatCigg on September 17, 2012, 06:10:36 PM
I quit for about 5 months.

I was told, the itch will last a year, the want will linger forever. GL buddy, if you give in, your back to day 1.  :salute
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: kvuo75 on September 17, 2012, 06:34:50 PM
I was told, the itch will last a year, the want will linger forever.


i was told that too.. if i knew how easy it actually was i would have quit 15 years ago.

Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: surfinn on September 17, 2012, 06:39:07 PM

 :headscratch:
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: surfinn on September 17, 2012, 06:40:55 PM
 :headscratch:
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: jeffn on September 17, 2012, 06:46:25 PM
Stay strong Zoney
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Busher on September 17, 2012, 07:22:40 PM
I'm going to keep on smoking.

Anyone got a cure for this game though?
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: homersipes on September 17, 2012, 07:35:40 PM
congrats :aok my daughter told me yesterday "no more no no's" so I have to quit lol.  today was day 1 with no smokes, havent wanted one all day :x
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Butcher on September 17, 2012, 07:37:46 PM
congrats :aok my daughter told me yesterday "no more no no's" so I have to quit lol.  today was day 1 with no smokes, havent wanted one all day :x

Careful flying aces High, sometimes I want 10 :(
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 17, 2012, 07:40:40 PM
YAY SKORPIAN IS BACK YAY

Maybe we should start a pool on how long it takes me to make him snap again.   :devil

ack-ack
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Nathan60 on September 17, 2012, 07:46:09 PM
Ive tried to go cold turkey and have succeded in not smoking at work but as soon as I get home I light up, I've tried not buying a pack but always end up running to the store before 8 pm. stay strong Zoney and Homer.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: skorpx1 on September 17, 2012, 07:47:11 PM
Maybe we should start a pool on how long it takes me to make him snap again.   :devil

ack-ack
You wont have to wait long..

I can feel it now...


BRIEFCASE! http://youtu.be/QLpUq__iQqw
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: NatCigg on September 17, 2012, 07:49:50 PM

i was told that too.. if i knew how easy it actually was i would have quit 15 years ago.



 :lol :aok

when i quit, i would get the urge to smoke when the time and place was right. i would say no to myself and before i knew it my mind was on something else.  then one day i went and found out about red bull vodkas... :t
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: The Fugitive on September 17, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
I quit over 16 years ago. Once I made it through the first day I knew I was all set.

Hang in their Zoney, it's worth it.  :aok
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: SIK1 on September 17, 2012, 10:49:58 PM
Hang tough Zoney, it wasn't easy for me, but it was well worth it.

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: BaldEagl on September 17, 2012, 11:48:15 PM
I started smoking at 15, been smoking for 42 years, at times three packs a day, other times 1/2 pack a day, now one pack a day and I'm not going to quit mostly because I like it... but good for you.

I've been in relatively high mental stress jobs most of my life and it's a big relief for me to go out, have a smoke, clear my mind and consider solutions.  I'm not sure how I'd cope without those mental breaks although from a physical health perspective I'm sure it would be good for me to quit.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: coombz on September 18, 2012, 02:28:27 AM
I started smoking at 15, been smoking for 42 years, at times three packs a day, other times 1/2 pack a day, now one pack a day and I'm not going to quit mostly because I like it... but good for you.

I've been in relatively high mental stress jobs most of my life and it's a big relief for me to go out, have a smoke, clear my mind and consider solutions.  I'm not sure how I'd cope without those mental breaks although from a physical health perspective I'm sure it would be good for me to quit.

the thing is, nicotine doesn't actually relax you, so you could actually cope just fine (once you got over the difficult part of quitting in the first place)

the only reason you feel more relaxed when you have a cigarette is because you are addicted to nicotine and your body is crying out for it, and when you have a smoke you feel all kinds of better because you have fed your addiction

after 42 years though you might as well keep going :)  i don't know how factually true this might be, but i instinctively feel that quitting at that age after so long smoking is just gonna cause more problems than it cures. i could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Bizman on September 18, 2012, 05:00:42 AM
My dad quit cold turkey over ten years ago after smoking for 57 years, starting at the age of 8, because cigarettes were easier to get than food, taking the hunger away... He hasn't gained weight since then, nor being angrier than before. I guess one good reason for both is, that he has routines such as gym and volley ball twice a week, steady meal times and no snacks in between, social life, light gardening, shopping with mom etc.

My wife did the same thing about six years ago. Her substitute is knitting. Hint: Bamboo sticks don't make noise!
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: VonMessa on September 18, 2012, 07:56:49 AM
WTG Zoney!

I am working on 6 weeks now.  Hardest thing I have ever done.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: mechanic on September 18, 2012, 08:32:37 AM
Good going dude. I smoked for fifteen years. Am now sixteen and a bit months smoke free. It's really hard for the first two weeks with the physical addiction but after that your pride in not smoking starts to outweigh the desire to smoke.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: zack1234 on September 18, 2012, 10:07:17 AM
I stopped smoking when I got married, she told me to :old:

Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Patches1 on September 18, 2012, 10:21:39 AM
WTG! Zoney!   :salute  You're doing GREAT! Take it one day at at time and before long you'll wonder why you ever smoked to begin with!  :aok

I quit smoking about 23 years ago and have never craved a cigarette since. Here are a few things my Doctor told me:

1) You're going to gain some weight; start changing your diet now before you gain too much.
2) You're going to gain some weight; start a reasonable exercise program now.
3) Diet and exercise help to stave off the cravings of nicotine and takes your mind off of smoking.
4) If you follow items 1-3 you stand a good chance of not gaining weight.
5) You're going to cough up a lot of junk while your lungs clear and food is going to taste much better.

And the last thing he shared with me was a really neat trick that still works wonders for me!

6) Remember that during all of the years you have smoked, you have trained your lungs and chest muscles to inhale somewhat sharply through your lips, hold smoke, and then exhale slowly. A nicotine craving lasts about 20 seconds, so when you get a craving, inhale sharply through your lips, fill your lungs fully, hold the air just as you would when smoking, and then exhale slowly, just as you would when smoking. This mimics all of the movements you do when you smoke and gives you some nice side effects: you get a sudden burst of oxygen to the brain which sharpens awareness and eyesight, your lungs and chest muscles get the same exercise as they did when you smoked, and slowly exhaling gives you a relaxing feeling. Try it! And more than once! If it works, great! If it doesn't...trust me, it will work.

Zoney, I may not have related exactly what my Doctor told me (he was a crotchety old coot), but it's pretty close, especially item# 6. To this very day I use item# 6 when I feel anger coming on, or am stressed, or just want a bit of an oxygen high!  :devil

Keep it up, Mate!




Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Condor11 on September 18, 2012, 12:10:58 PM
Quitters never win. But in this case they live longer

Good luck zoney. Wish i had the drive to quit too
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: smoe on September 18, 2012, 05:36:04 PM
How much caffeine are you consuming?
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Zoney on September 18, 2012, 09:09:26 PM
How much caffeine are you consuming?

Sames as always about 1 cup, 12 oz. or so per day.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Zoney on September 18, 2012, 09:14:52 PM
I am not too worried about gaining much weight actually.  I am 6'4" and weigh 155 lbs, just 10 pounds more than when I graduated High School 40 years ago.  I'm also pretty active where I work.  Yes alot of my free time at home is playing AH and therefore sitting, but away from my home I do alot of stuff that works me pretty good.

Today was a better day actually, had the day off, played quite a bit and felt pretty good.

I'm not going to smoke again, I'm sure of it.  I'm a winner and I will win this, cigarettes have already lost.  Returning to smoking would be my defeat, not going to happen, no way no how, just not gunna get beat by it.  I'm better than that.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: TomD on September 18, 2012, 10:03:23 PM
Zoney I too had quit smoking after 30+ years. I used the nicotine patch, and this worked extremely well.
I had no desire for the after dinner smoke, the while driving smoke, while drinking smoke, or even the coveted
after nooky smoke. However, (you've noticed no doubt I said had quit) after five months I found myself
depressed.. My hobby is building and flying radio controlled aircraft. My favorites being my 1/5 scale warbirds
of course. Anyway, an aircraft I was building at the time I found I had lost any desire to work on. Why?
Because of the cigarette break! :rolleyes: Seems my habit of "get this done, then go have a smokey treat"
was a reward I wasn't prepared to let go of, and had no counter for it. :cry I guess my point in all this is
just try to keep your routine as routine as usual so that you don't associate an activity with the loss of your
good ole buddy nicotine.

Best wishes, & good luck sir.  :salute
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Orbitson on September 18, 2012, 11:59:59 PM
 :devil
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: icepac on September 19, 2012, 09:54:52 AM
Some time, later on, you will have a moment of weakness and bum a smoke at a party or some sort of social function.

If you light up and the taste and dizziness causes you much discomfort, you will never smoke again.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Scca on September 19, 2012, 10:50:18 AM
Some time, later on, you will have a moment of weakness and bum a smoke at a party or some sort of social function.

If you light up and the taste and dizziness causes you much discomfort, you will never smoke again.
Not really...  That's what you had to endure when you started, and it didn't stop you...
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Traveler on September 19, 2012, 11:16:41 AM
Hate to bust your bubble, but, you didn't get angry as a result of not smoking.  The truth is you were always angry and you smoked.  Good for you getting one of those bad habits under control.  Now you can devote more time to getting the Anger problem solved.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: gyrene81 on September 19, 2012, 11:38:28 AM
Hate to bust your bubble, but, you didn't get angry as a result of not smoking.  The truth is you were always angry and you smoked.  Good for you getting one of those bad habits under control.  Now you can devote more time to getting the Anger problem solved.  Good luck.
not true, it is known that nicotine affects the brain and a person's mood can be affected when they stop smoking...
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Zoney on September 19, 2012, 12:02:41 PM
Hate to bust your bubble, but, you didn't get angry as a result of not smoking.  The truth is you were always angry and you smoked.  Good for you getting one of those bad habits under control.  Now you can devote more time to getting the Anger problem solved.  Good luck.

I got a PM from someone here that have alot of respect for.  His opinion was it may not be anger as much as anxiety.  Right or wrong that changed my outlook and helped me.

I have alot of freinds here.  All of you have helped me.  That is why I posted here, to involve my friends because I knew it would help.

Well................that and I wanted to ask for forgiveness and give you a reason if I was breaking the #1 rule here......................Don't be a dick.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Traveler on September 19, 2012, 12:36:10 PM
I got a PM from someone here that have alot of respect for.  His opinion was it may not be anger as much as anxiety.  Right or wrong that changed my outlook and helped me.

I have alot of freinds here.  All of you have helped me.  That is why I posted here, to involve my friends because I knew it would help.

Well................that and I wanted to ask for forgiveness and give you a reason if I was breaking the #1 rule here......................Don't be a dick.
I'm sure your friendships will serve you well.  I was just commenting on your mentioning "Anger".  I've known a lot of people that quite smoking,  Some did become short tempered for a bit, however, none of them mentioned Anger.  It's been my experience that Anger is totally different from someone that's a bit out of sorts.  I too did the cold turky thing after 30 years of smoking (after all smoke were free with every mean in VietNam).   I too became short tempered, but I never experienced Anger.  I was Angery after 9/11, I was very Angery when I returned home from Vietnam and got spit on and called a baby kill.  That night on hill 822 on Novermber 19, 1967, I got really angery with the NVA and VC trying to over run our positions.  So I know Anger, and how sometimes, it can be a good thing.  As long as you can control or manage it. I'm just saying that because you used the term "Anger"  its my experience that Anger is never the result of a  short term experience.   It takes a long time to build , not Smoking may have triggered it, but my guess is that you were one Angry Smoker.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Zoney on September 19, 2012, 01:30:37 PM
Traveler, thank you for your honorable service sir.  I was in the Air Force, but never in harms way.

Thank you for your attention and your reply also.
Title: Re: Anger Management
Post by: Banshee7 on September 19, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
It's pretty easy to see that we're all behind you Zoney.  I know from personal experience that quitting is tough.  When I was 5 years old my dad used to smoke at least a pack a day.  Out of the blue one day I remember asking him to quit.  I'm almost 21 now, and he put it down cold turkey.  Of course he picked up the habit of dipping, but I guess that's better than inhaling it into your lungs  :headscratch:

Good luck, sir!

#S#



Josh