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Title: English hate hunters?
Post by: Rob52240 on September 19, 2012, 12:21:27 PM
I was reading an article on a UK news site about a guy who got his hand shot off while hunting.  I was astonished that it seems socially acceptable there to call for hunters to be murdered / terrorized.  Is it really like that or was I just seeing something out of the ordinary?  I commented about the lack of sympathy for the guy and a day later it has the most negative feedback of any comment on the article.

It all looked like hate speech to me.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Maverick on September 19, 2012, 12:23:44 PM
It's only hate speech when it does not agree with the usual liberal slant.......... :bolt:  :neener:
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: xbrit on September 19, 2012, 12:25:30 PM
Like anywhere it depends on the type of site you go to, try going to a PETA site and
looking for hunter sympathy. You say a news site but which one?
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Rob52240 on September 19, 2012, 12:37:58 PM
Daily mail, I think I'll be sticking to BBC for now on.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: guncrasher on September 19, 2012, 12:39:10 PM
that reminds me of back in 92 when I had just moved to north carolina,  a woman got shot in her backyard during the fall or winter by a hunter.  the explanation for her being shot was that she was wearing white gloves and she should have known better since it could be confused with a white tailed deer, that's what the hunter thought anyway.



semp
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 12:39:14 PM
Like anywhere it depends on the type of site you go to, try going to a PETA site and
looking for hunter sympathy. You say a news site but which one?

There is  somehting Quintessentially wrong with your culture when such behavour is ok or even expected.( I don't mean this in a nationalistic sense)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 12:40:30 PM
that reminds me of back in 92 when I had just moved to north carolina,  a woman got shot in her backyard during the fall or winter by a hunter.  the explanation for her being shot was that she was wearing white gloves and she should have known better since it could be confused with a white tailed deer, that's what the hunter thought anyway.



semp

nobody is goingt o be hunting with a rifle in someones back yard semp.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Shuffler on September 19, 2012, 12:45:37 PM
that reminds me of back in 92 when I had just moved to north carolina,  a woman got shot in her backyard during the fall or winter by a hunter.  the explanation for her being shot was that she was wearing white gloves and she should have known better since it could be confused with a white tailed deer, that's what the hunter thought anyway.



semp

Actually it is the hunter's duty to identify the target. Now anyone out can assist by wearing orange..... it is still up to the hunter.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 01:04:18 PM
Actually it is the hunter's duty to identify the target. Now anyone out can assist by wearing orange..... it is still up to the hunter.

she shoulda been in the kitchen anyway where she belongs.... :O :bolt:
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: jimbo71 on September 19, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
Deer hunter spawn camp?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFLTa1_SYfs&feature=youtube_gdata_player



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbYTY7eBVRs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 19, 2012, 01:28:14 PM
There is  somehting Quintessentially wrong with your culture when such behavour is ok or even expected.( I don't mean this in a nationalistic sense)

This is probably due to the fact that hunting was always the preserve of landed gentry, and to a great degree it still is. Also there is a distinct air of abhorrence about hunting for the sake of killing. We are supposedly a nation of 'animal lovers' (although my best mate is an RSPCA Inspector and may disagree)
I have no issue with hunting for food, fishing for food, etc, Its doing it for fun that I, and many otthers dont understand. I have 'hunted' for food: rabbits, pheasant. I have to kill baby Jackdaws and injured pigeons on a daily basis. I have shot a deer that was injured by a car and a dog that was terminally ill. I hated and detested every single one. The deer was eaten, although I didn't scoff the dog or the Jackdaws
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on September 19, 2012, 01:32:05 PM
Deer hunter spawn camp?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFLTa1_SYfs&feature=youtube_gdata_player



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbYTY7eBVRs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
  :rofl You never fail lol
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: coombz on September 19, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Daily mail, I think I'll be sticking to BBC for now on.

Good call
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: zack1234 on September 19, 2012, 01:50:04 PM
I knew a farmer who was a miserable old sod, he shot some birds and decided to finish one off by hitting it over the neck with his gun, the gun went off and cut him in two. :old:

Hi Coombzy you calmed down yet? :)



Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: coombz on September 19, 2012, 01:53:50 PM
I knew a farmer who was a miserable old sod, he shot some birds and decided to finish one off by hitting it over the neck with his gun, the gun went off and cut him in two. :old:

Hi Coombzy you calmed down yet? :)


No, I am still  :furious

I was going to put in my previous post that I think people who hunt and kill animals for sport are scum

What is wrong with me zack?!?
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: zack1234 on September 19, 2012, 02:03:00 PM
Your not as good looking as me :old:
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: guncrasher on September 19, 2012, 02:18:29 PM
nobody is goingt o be hunting with a rifle in someones back yard semp.

you are wrong somebody can go hunting in somebody's back yard.  some backyards are pretty big.  but this is the story I am talking about.  she was in her backyard and the hunter knew that but read the story.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/09/10/magazine/a-killing-in-maine.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

and here's a shooting in someobody's backyard.

http://articles.cnn.com/2006-02-12/politics/cheney_1_katharine-armstrong-birdshot-saturday-afternoon-armstrong-ranch?_s=PM:POLITICS


semp
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 02:57:20 PM
you are wrong somebody can go hunting in somebody's back yard.  some backyards are pretty big.  but this is the story I am talking about.  she was in her backyard and the hunter knew that but read the story.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/09/10/magazine/a-killing-in-maine.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

and here's a shooting in someobody's backyard.

http://articles.cnn.com/2006-02-12/politics/cheney_1_katharine-armstrong-birdshot-saturday-afternoon-armstrong-ranch?_s=PM:POLITICS


semp

Thing is you knwo when your in someones backyard and most hunters know not to shoot unless they see what they are shooting at.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Shuffler on September 19, 2012, 03:04:12 PM
The guy in Maine was a very poor hunter. So bad that he should not have a hunting license.

Judging by the hunting population's response poor hunting  is standard practice there.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 03:05:22 PM
The guy in Maine was a very poor hunter. So bad that he should not have a hunting license.

Judging by the hunting population's response poor hunting  is standard practice there.

Its all the Mamazinhunks coming up to hunt. LOL it edits  (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41IzFqU4RoL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: MrMeanie on September 19, 2012, 03:06:33 PM
No, I am still  :furious

I was going to put in my previous post that I think people who hunt and kill animals for sport are scum

What is wrong with me zack?!?

Run quick, Peta is calling.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Vulcan on September 19, 2012, 03:13:51 PM
No, I am still  :furious

I was going to put in my previous post that I think people who hunt and kill animals for sport are scum

What is wrong with me zack?!?

What about if the animals are classified as pests?
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 03:16:44 PM
No, I am still  :furious

I was going to put in my previous post that I think people who hunt and kill animals for sport are scum

What is wrong with me zack?!?

What if you hunt.....................



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Most_Dangerous_Game_poster.jpg/220px-Most_Dangerous_Game_poster.jpg)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 19, 2012, 03:35:07 PM
What about if the animals are classified as pests?

You tell us 'what about them being pests'?

Pests need controlling. Sometimes by culling, sometimes through chemically castrating. Occasionally by disease introduction such as the disgrace that is mixamatosis.
The issue is whether it should be a fun pastime to kill them, or just a necessary evil?
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: aztec on September 19, 2012, 03:36:01 PM
nobody is goingt o be hunting with a rifle in someones back yard semp.
I see you've never been to Maine.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: gyrene81 on September 19, 2012, 03:39:51 PM
No, I am still  :furious

I was going to put in my previous post that I think people who hunt and kill animals for sport are scum

What is wrong with me zack?!?
what if there was a need to kill the animals, such as, protecting the native species and habitats, and it just happened to be pretty damn fun killing the invasive species?
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: aztec on September 19, 2012, 03:41:59 PM
The guy in Maine was a very poor hunter. So bad that he should not have a hunting license.

Judging by the hunting population's response poor hunting  is standard practice there.
I live 30 miles from where it happened....stik with Texas, please.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 03:42:08 PM
You tell us 'what about them being pests'?

Pests need controlling. Sometimes by culling, sometimes through chemically castrating. Occasionally by disease introduction such as the disgrace that is mixamatosis.
The issue is whether it should be a fun pastime to kill them, or just a necessary evil?

ever shot a nutra? Thats fun toejam right there!
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: gyrene81 on September 19, 2012, 03:44:15 PM
ever shot a nutra? Thats fun toejam right there!
now i know why you can't spell...yer either a cajun or a stump jumper.

nutria...new-tree-ah
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 03:44:36 PM
I live 30 miles from where it happened....stik with Texas, please.

OH please 'backyard means back yard not I does not mean the back 30. If your 2 miles from your house its not the backyard, and if your shooting without identifying you are a moron.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 03:46:44 PM
now i know why you can't spell...yer either a cajun or a stump jumper.

nutria...new-tree-ah

Anything beats Wisconsin. Nothing to do there but get liquored up and watch the Lions beat on the packers for the 1st half before they remember they are the Lions and folding. Thanks for making Mississippi look good. Whats a stump jumper?
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: coombz on September 19, 2012, 03:52:55 PM
Run quick, Peta is calling.

I love eating meat too much to associate with those weirdos

Vegetarians are wrong 'uns! :old:
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 04:08:50 PM
Im In PETA(People (for} Eating {of} Teh Animals)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 19, 2012, 04:18:37 PM
ever shot a nutra? Thats fun toejam right there!

Sorry. You lost me
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 04:29:46 PM
Sorry. You lost me
I take it as a no dont knock shooting animals for fun til you tried it.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: phatzo on September 19, 2012, 04:39:19 PM
The English are a lot like Australian women, Hoplophobes.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 19, 2012, 04:41:18 PM
I take it as a no dont knock shooting animals for fun til you tried it.

I believe when I posted that I get no pleasure from shooting animals, it was an indication that I have done it and.not enjoyed it :bhead
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Shuffler on September 19, 2012, 04:50:53 PM
I see you've never been to Maine.

Yup Maine is a tiny place. Problem is the hunters seem to be poor at their chosen task. My opinion after reading the above story.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: sunfan1121 on September 19, 2012, 05:06:12 PM
Not as much as they hate the dentist  :D
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: SmokinLoon on September 19, 2012, 06:25:25 PM
I shoot prairie dogs and let them lay.  They are varmints and when they are not controlled they will die of the plague, so at least I give the coyotes and other predators a free meal.

I also shoot coyotes, they are very detrimental to the local (and native to the area) gray and red foxes.  I sell the pelts for $18 to $25 a piece depending on the quality of the pelt, the money is usually donated to the local bar or beer garden.

I shoot pigeons and let the farm cats have a warm meal (too many pigeons = mites and lice and disease), keep them thinned out!  Same goes for wabbits too!

I think there is validity in shooting animals and not eating their meat.  There is a reason we as mankind are on top of the food chain.   :aok
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 19, 2012, 09:12:01 PM
I shoot prairie dogs and let them lay.  They are varmints and when they are not controlled they will die of the plague, so at least I give the coyotes and other predators a free meal.

I also shoot coyotes, they are very detrimental to the local (and native to the area) gray and red foxes.  I sell the pelts for $18 to $25 a piece depending on the quality of the pelt, the money is usually donated to the local bar or beer garden.

I shoot pigeons and let the farm cats have a warm meal (too many pigeons = mites and lice and disease), keep them thinned out!  Same goes for wabbits too!

I think there is validity in shooting animals and not eating their meat.  There is a reason we as mankind are on top of the food chain.   :aok

 :bhead :bhead :bhead All valid points, however, referring you to the earlier crap I posted, it's all well and good to kill animals for various legitimate reasons (people too) however it's the concept of deriving pleasure from the activity that causes an issue for me.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 19, 2012, 09:31:58 PM
On the other hand, after spending months getting my lawn to look half decent, there is a large lardy rabbit digging the crap out of it, I could conceivably take pleasure in his demise :uhoh

(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu108/metallldan/lawn_zpsf6aa123e.jpg)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 19, 2012, 09:34:55 PM
There is a reason we as mankind are on top of the food chain.   :aok


Until you choose to spend any time alone and unarmed with bears/big cats/sharks etc :)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 11:30:14 PM
On the other hand, after spending months getting my lawn to look half decent, there is a large lardy rabbit digging the crap out of it, I could conceivably take pleasure in his demise :uhoh

(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu108/metallldan/lawn_zpsf6aa123e.jpg)

Get you a Stoat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHImJVJSJ08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHImJVJSJ08)
of coarse then youll need a fox to kil the stoat
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: pembquist on September 19, 2012, 11:30:51 PM
I thought the english hated red coat wearing stuck up aristocrats on horses hunting foxs and setting man traps for poachers who had the temerity to try to feed their families.  
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 19, 2012, 11:49:58 PM
I thought the english hated red coat wearing stuck up aristocrats on horses hunting foxs and setting man traps for poachers who had the temerity to try to feed their families.  

I thought the English were all red coat wearing stuck up aristocrats on horseback hunting foxes..or Burberry wearing chavs on mopeds hunting chav foxes.
(http://videogamewriters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/chav-pregnant-lovely-199x300.jpg)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: zack1234 on September 20, 2012, 12:35:11 AM
We don't like anyone who are loud and looks around to make sure everyone is listening, so that includes Southern England :old:

We should hunt criminals as well as foxes :old:

Obviously you would have to pay for it, the revenue could be used to fund good courses such as libraries and local amenities :old:
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 20, 2012, 04:01:02 AM
I thought the english hated red coat wearing stuck up aristocrats on horses hunting foxs and setting man traps for poachers who had the temerity to try to feed their families.  

Most do, as I mentioned earlier. There is a fox hunting ban in this country, but as with most things, becUse it aas applied to a pastime (loathed to call it a sport) which is the choice of the rich and wealthy, kncluding Judges, senior rozzers, QC's etc, it is completely ignored :old:
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: mbailey on September 20, 2012, 05:51:48 AM
On the other hand, after spending months getting my lawn to look half decent, there is a large lardy rabbit digging the crap out of it, I could conceivably take pleasure in his demise :uhoh

(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu108/metallldan/lawn_zpsf6aa123e.jpg)

Found the culprit

(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/page5_42_zps3c1d0ea9.jpg)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Rob52240 on September 20, 2012, 10:45:23 AM
I forgot about the fox hunting stuff in England.  Here some of the cause-heads are protesting our hunting of coyotes, but the only reason they are allowed to be hunted is because they take away habitat needed for our foxes.

It makes more sense now that I see this interview of hunting protestors in England.
http://youtu.be/52cZgJlPBBA?t=2m54s
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Vulcan on September 21, 2012, 12:58:39 AM
You tell us 'what about them being pests'?

Pests need controlling. Sometimes by culling, sometimes through chemically castrating. Occasionally by disease introduction such as the disgrace that is mixamatosis.
The issue is whether it should be a fun pastime to kill them, or just a necessary evil?

I am a hunt.

I enjoy hunting for getting outdoors and getting meat on the table for the family. Not only is it cheap meat it's also extremely healthy and tasty. I hunt deer, goats, hare (aka jack rabbits in the US), and rabbits. I will kill possums outright not for meat but because they are a major pest here.

I do not take trophies.

I do not take pleasure in killing animals. In killing them I aim for a quick clean death, preferably a head/neck/or HILAR shot all of which provide the best meat recovery.

If I do not hunt, then the above animals will most likely be subject to control via a number of poisons. The most common of which is 1080. For some game 1080 poisoning is drawn out and extremely painful death. Deer carcasses will often show signs of severe thrashing and animals trying to disembowel themselves. And of course the meat is unrecoverable.

I gut, and dress my own meat. Which is far more than you probably do hunting the supermarket isles ;)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 21, 2012, 10:50:31 AM
I am a hunt.

I enjoy hunting for getting outdoors and getting meat on the table for the family. Not only is it cheap meat it's also extremely healthy and tasty. I hunt deer, goats, hare (aka jack rabbits in the US), and rabbits. I will kill possums outright not for meat but because they are a major pest here.

I do not take trophies.

I do not take pleasure in killing animals. In killing them I aim for a quick clean death, preferably a head/neck/or HILAR shot all of which provide the best meat recovery.

If I do not hunt, then the above animals will most likely be subject to control via a number of poisons. The most common of which is 1080. For some game 1080 poisoning is drawn out and extremely painful death. Deer carcasses will often show signs of severe thrashing and animals trying to disembowel themselves. And of course the meat is unrecoverable.

I gut, and dress my own meat. Which is far more than you probably do hunting the supermarket isles ;)

Did you not read my post that said I have hunted for food, that I have no problem with hunting for food, that I have to dispatch animals regularly as part of my job. Did you not see me write that I understand the need for control of vermin.I'm sure I wrote all that, and I am also sure I mentioned the fact that I have no issue with any of them things, merely with the concept of pleasure from killing.
So we are on the same page, yes I shop at supermarkets and butchers, but I also get meat from a friend in form of rabbits and fish and so.etimes venison. I prepare both for the pot. You seem to have missed that part of my posts and my point :salute
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Shuffler on September 21, 2012, 10:57:51 AM
Since when is hunting cheap anymore. Goes for fishing too.


Cheaper at the store lol
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: ink on September 21, 2012, 11:50:27 AM
I am a hunt.

I enjoy hunting for getting outdoors and getting meat on the table for the family. Not only is it cheap meat it's also extremely healthy and tasty. I hunt deer, goats, hare (aka jack rabbits in the US), and rabbits. I will kill possums outright not for meat but because they are a major pest here.

I do not take trophies.

I do not take pleasure in killing animals. In killing them I aim for a quick clean death, preferably a head/neck/or HILAR shot all of which provide the best meat recovery.

If I do not hunt, then the above animals will most likely be subject to control via a number of poisons. The most common of which is 1080. For some game 1080 poisoning is drawn out and extremely painful death. Deer carcasses will often show signs of severe thrashing and animals trying to disembowel themselves. And of course the meat is unrecoverable.

I gut, and dress my own meat. Which is far more than you probably do hunting the supermarket isles ;)

nothing wrong with this :aok

there is something very wrong with getting pleasure from killing something....
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 12:03:51 PM
nothing wrong with this :aok

there is something very wrong with getting pleasure from killing something....

I killed off a sixer last ninth that was immensely pleasurable
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Rob52240 on September 21, 2012, 12:05:57 PM
nothing wrong with this :aok

there is something very wrong with getting pleasure from killing something....

Do you mean killing solely for the purpose of pleasure I hope?
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: ink on September 21, 2012, 12:17:37 PM
I killed off a sixer last ninth that was immensely pleasurable

 :P

Do you mean killing solely for the purpose of pleasure I hope?


 yes.

Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 21, 2012, 12:19:07 PM
Do you mean killing solely for the purpose of pleasure I hope?

Why? Killing for necessity is fine but the fact that guys think there is some 'challenge' in outwitting a fish with a brain the size of a lentil escapes me.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Rob52240 on September 21, 2012, 12:25:31 PM
Actually, I think it feels good to kill pests.  Like prarie dogs and for some people where I live coyotes as well.  ALthough I couldn't bring myself to shoot a coyote, I don't mind that we have people who do.  Otherwise the foxes here would be pushed out of their habitat. 

We also have a nice side bonus associated with most people's aversion to shooting anything that looks like fido and that is exceptions to nearly every hunting regulation when it comes to hunting coyotes, their season is 24/7/365 and it's the only animal you can legally hunt in Iowa with a rifle.  I'm pretty sure it's also the only animal you can legally hunt with a crossbow as well excluding someone missing some of their fingers.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 12:26:38 PM
Why? Killing for necessity is fine but the fact that guys think there is some 'challenge' in outwitting a fish with a brain the size of a lentil escapes me.

There is a difference in Fishing and catching you know, part of the enjoyable aspect of fishing is figuring out what they are willing to bite on, not "outwitting" so much. Plus nobody kills a fish for dffun you eirther eat them or release them unless its an invasive species. Lost time  I killed a a fish I didnt eat I was 8 and had a bunch of m-80s...
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 21, 2012, 12:32:37 PM
There is a difference in Fishing and catching you know, part of the enjoyable aspect of fishing is figuring out what they are willing to bite on, not "outwitting" so much. Plus nobody kills a fish for dffun you eirther eat them or release them unless its an invasive species. Lost time  I killed a a fish I didnt eat I was 8 and had a bunch of m-80s...

Thats the thing I don't fathom. Why go specifically to catch fish, just to weigh them and let them go?. Kill it and scoff it is fine by me. But why torture it and then put it back?
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: ink on September 21, 2012, 12:35:29 PM
Actually, I think it feels good to kill pests.  Like prarie dogs and for some people where I live coyotes as well.  ALthough I couldn't bring myself to shoot a coyote, I don't mind that we have people who do.  Otherwise the foxes here would be pushed out of their habitat. 

We also have a nice side bonus associated with most people's aversion to shooting anything that looks like fido and that is exceptions to nearly every hunting regulation when it comes to hunting coyotes, their season is 24/7/365 and it's the only animal you can legally hunt in Iowa with a rifle.  I'm pretty sure it's also the only animal you can legally hunt with a crossbow as well excluding someone missing some of their fingers.


I don't know.........

I don't find any sort of pleasure in killing.....even pests....I do understand that sometimes killing is necessary, like an invasive species.

I don't understand the desire to kill that people have...hell man I should be one that enjoys it very much....yet I find it extremely.....not sure how to describe it....I guess the only way to say it...is it goes against everything I believe.... or more appropriately......everything I feel.



Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 12:38:16 PM
Thats the thing I don't fathom. Why go specifically to catch fish, just to weigh them and let them go?. Kill it and scoff it is fine by me. But why torture it and then put it back?

Because its an escape form the ole battle axe? Why be so arrogant and slam someone's culture? So you want people to keep every fish they catch? That would be beyond cruel as that would lead to extinction, or at best serious depletion of the fisheries.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Rob52240 on September 21, 2012, 12:50:19 PM
Because its an escape form the ole battle axe? Why be so arrogant and slam someone's culture? So you want people to keep every fish they catch? That would be beyond cruel as that would lead to extinction, or at best serious depletion of the fisheries.

You shouldn't need to ask such an obvious question.

Releasing a fish after catching it allows others to catch the same fish.  It also allows a lot of trophy sized fish to reproduce.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 12:51:38 PM
You shouldn't need to ask such an obvious question.

Releasing a fish after catching it allows others to catch the same fish.  It also allows a lot of trophy sized fish to reproduce.
Thats what I said.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: guncrasher on September 21, 2012, 12:54:02 PM
There is a difference in Fishing and catching you know, part of the enjoyable aspect of fishing is figuring out what they are willing to bite on, not "outwitting" so much. Plus nobody kills a fish for dffun you eirther eat them or release them unless its an invasive species. Lost time  I killed a a fish I didnt eat I was 8 and had a bunch of m-80s...

bs best thing about fishing is being there all alone with nobody bugging you and drinking lots of beer.  that is very relaxing  :cheers:.  oh and I eat every single fish that I catch and is edible.

semp
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: pembquist on September 21, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
What Shakespeare said: "...for there is nothing either good or
bad, but thinking makes it so."
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 21, 2012, 03:26:23 PM
Because its an escape form the ole battle axe? Why be so arrogant and slam someone's culture? So you want people to keep every fish they catch? That would be beyond cruel as that would lead to extinction, or at best serious depletion of the fisheries.

I am.not being arrogant, nor am I disparaging anyones culture. Simple answer is fish for what you need to feed yourself and family and then stop. I dont get why this is a strange notion
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 03:34:20 PM
I am.not being arrogant, nor am I disparaging anyones culture. Simple answer is fish for what you need to feed yourself and family and then stop. I dont get why this is a strange notion
I dont see how its a strange notion for you to not worry about what others are doing, especially when nobody/thing is harmed you are basically telling people to not enjoy a freedom that is guaranteed,  just because ewe  sheeple on that side of the pond were lead around by  aristocrats that told you you couldn't fish to feed your family because that's THIER fish doesn't mean you should constantly spew your sheeple mentality  allover these boards, also  shouldn't you be trolling the fishing thread instead of the hunting thread?
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: gyrene81 on September 21, 2012, 03:39:23 PM
Anything beats Wisconsin. Nothing to do there but get liquored up and watch the Lions beat on the packers for the 1st half before they remember they are the Lions and folding. Thanks for making Mississippi look good. Whats a stump jumper?
lol, you're making my mississippi ancestors look bad. stump jumper is someone who moves from anywhere (including lousyana) to mississippi.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 03:51:13 PM
lol, you're making my mississippi ancestors look bad. stump jumper is someone who moves from anywhere (including lousyana) to mississippi.

HUH how about that I just through Mississippi out there on a lark. My spelling and grammar sucks because I went to Detroit( French but not nearly as french Louisiana)public schools then to Metro Atlanta public shcools(nether know for quality) which my explain my typing skills. It's not hard to make a Mississippian look bad
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: gyrene81 on September 21, 2012, 03:56:13 PM
It's not hard to make a Mississippian look bad
lol, true...but this bunch makes even cajuns look like geniuses...

(http://goodolejaybird.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/duck-dynasty1.jpg?w=470)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 21, 2012, 03:56:55 PM
I dont see how its a strange notion for you to not worry about what others are doing, especially when nobody/thing is harmed you are basically telling people to not enjoy a freedom that is guaranteed,  just because ewe  sheeple on that side of the pond were lead around by  aristocrats that told you you couldn't fish to feed your family because that's THIER fish doesn't mean you should constantly spew your sheeple mentality  allover these boards, also  shouldn't you be trolling the fishing thread instead of the hunting thread?

No thing is harmed? Imagine the fish has a bosting time being rorked out to suffocate with a hook in his face :aok
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 04:03:30 PM
lol, true...but this bunch makes even cajuns look like geniuses...

(http://goodolejaybird.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/duck-dynasty1.jpg?w=470)

Hell I wish I had thier money and thats a great show lol.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 04:06:06 PM
No thing is harmed? Imagine the fish has a bosting time being rorked out to suffocate with a hook in his face :aok

In its LIP which is nerveless and being pulled form the water is just like us  taking alittle dip in the water its refreshing, just as I though another uninformed opinion thta has no basis in fact. well, you know where you can put it......



















right here.......http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,292918.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,292918.0.html)
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: ink on September 21, 2012, 04:16:51 PM
In its LIP which is nerveless and being pulled form the water is just like us  taking alittle dip in the water its refreshing, just as I though another uninformed opinion thta has no basis in fact. well, you know where you can put it......



















right here.......http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,292918.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,292918.0.html)

I dont think a fish removed from the water is like taking a dip in the water for us.......

they will die....we wont..... :headscratch:

maybe I misread what ya meant
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: danny76 on September 21, 2012, 04:28:36 PM
In its LIP which is nerveless and being pulled form the water is just like us  taking alittle dip in the water its refreshing, just as I though another uninformed opinion thta has no basis in fact. well, you know where you can put it......



















right here.......http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,292918.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,292918.0.html)

I was waiting for that old lump of crap. This is the nerveless lip that detects the difference between a scrap of food and a scrap of excrement at the bottom of a  pond. Same old fishermans gem. I have also heard people say fish mouths are 'designed' to be hooked.

This is tedious now
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 06:07:30 PM
I dont think a fish removed from the water is like taking a dip in the water for us.......

they will die....we wont..... :headscratch:

maybe I misread what ya meant

Stay down too long see what happens.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 06:17:07 PM
I was waiting for that old lump of crap. This is the nerveless lip that detects the difference between a scrap of food and a scrap of excrement at the bottom of a  pond. Same old fishermans gem. I have also heard people say fish mouths are 'designed' to be hooked.

I would say perfectly designed but I've had to many get away.
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: RngFndr on September 21, 2012, 06:25:12 PM
Just re zero'ed my .300winmag, gettin ready for Elk Season..
 
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: RngFndr on September 21, 2012, 06:28:17 PM
Just rezero'ed my .300winmag.. Gettin ready for Elk Season..
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: RngFndr on September 21, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
Just rezero'ed my .300winmag.. Gettin ready for Elk season.. :D

Hate when that happens! HANGFIRE in the BB's!
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: ink on September 21, 2012, 06:49:36 PM
Stay down too long see what happens.

 :huh

 :confused:

 :headscratch:

Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: Nathan60 on September 21, 2012, 07:00:34 PM
:huh

 :confused:

 :headscratch:



Yeah like that time in junior high when I gave you that swirly and you thought you were gonna git drownt  :angel:
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: ink on September 21, 2012, 07:11:29 PM
Yeah like that time in junior high when I gave you that swirly and you thought you were gonna git drownt  :angel:

 :rofl
Title: Re: English hate hunters?
Post by: morfiend on September 21, 2012, 07:15:32 PM
Thats the thing I don't fathom. Why go specifically to catch fish, just to weigh them and let them go?. Kill it and scoff it is fine by me. But why torture it and then put it back?

  I see your point and infact agree to a point,but what if the regs state catch and release only!

  One of the rivers I fish often has only a small section that you can catch and keep the fish. Most of the river has regulations for catch and release,not live bait and a single hook with no lead allowed.

   This past summer was so warm and the water levels were so low that I refused to fish the river as the likelyhood of the released fish to survive was just too low for my liking. Since I cant keep any of the fish I wouldnt risk killing them just for fun!

   Oh and if you think it's easy to fool a fish with a brain the size of a lentil,well come try this river and see how well you do! If you dont have the exact copy of the hatch you can watch the fish swirl around you and laugh as you try to fool them!


    :salute