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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Shuffler on September 24, 2012, 11:00:47 PM
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That is the best they have?
I really did not care who won or lost but the officials stunk the whole game up. No more NFL for me.
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Just WOW. Sure looked like jennings had control of the ball. I can't see where they both caught the ball at the same time.
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Just WOW. Sure looked like jennings had control of the ball. I can't see where they both caught the ball at the same time.
Not to mention the blatent push off right before the leap.....
Or that pass int call a few plays earlier.
Cant believe there isnt a way to overrule such incompitence
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That is the best they have?
I really did not care who won or lost but the officials stunk the whole game up. No more NFL for me.
Yeah they had to pretty far down the college divisions to get those refs. In a couple cases high school refs.
I'll keep watching because its like a train wreck.
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Cant believe there isnt a way to overrule such incompitence
There is. Meet the regular NFL officials demands to stop the strike. Problem solved.
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The refs are a reason Im not watching NFL games. After watching a couple the first week, it is atrocious and not enjoyable to watch. Love watching football but the refs are ruining it, the refs should not be determining the winning team.
The refs are from Division 2 and Division 3 which is pretty far down but they shouldnt be making such bad calls like this, they still have to make the same calls in college as the pros.
This just further proves that the only enjoyable football to watching right now is Division 1.
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These pretty well sum it up...
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For once MLS doesn't have the worst refs in the country. It is a happy day.
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:rofl :rofl
:cheers: Oz
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With all that is, and has been, happening in our society..
This is INconsequential...
NFL :rofl
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That is awesome.
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I'm going to repeat what EVERYONE told the Seahawks fans back in 2006 when bad calls went OUR way in a game that actually MEANT something, where the REAL officials totally blew SB40th and even ADMITTED that they blew that game..and here it ...is...-->.
Get over it. Bad calls happen. Quit yer whoopee whining and move on. It's over. We won. Bad calls happen with replacement refs, with real refs.
If your team gave up 8 sacks you have MUCH bigger issues than a badly reffed game. We should have had 12 sacks, but the refs stopped calling the holds on our defensive line in the 2nd half. :rofl
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The NFL has admitted it is an entertainment organization. What you are watching is game fixing and the pro refs are just better at hiding it. :noid
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Even better.
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More churn will be made over this meaningless non-conference game than the Super Bowl because "the good guys" (GB is a favorite in all of the Sportcaster's eyes) were at the toejamty end of a few bad calls by non-union refs. Tough crap, please start chewing harder. Sometimes the heros die.
And worst yet, no one will remember the game for what they SHOULD remember the game for...the outstanding defense that Seattle put on the field AGAIN...first dismantling the Cowboys 27-7 last week and then holding Rodgers to ZERO touchdowns and sacked 8 times!
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These officials need to go back to their day jobs as lunch room monitors and the NFL need to get the BEST possible refs out there. Get it done or call up the deserving college refs who are next in line.
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Rip I don't know if you are pointing at me or everyone...I didn't give a hoot who won that game...but some of these pictures that are being made because of the whole situation with the refs are just hilarious.
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Rip I don't know if you are pointing at me or everyone...I didn't give a hoot who won that game...but some of these pictures that are being made because of the whole situation with the refs are just hilarious.
Oh no, I'm zero'ing in on YOU MISTER! :mad: :mad:
Just kidding. :)
GO HAWKS! We're BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!
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Oh no, I'm zero'ing in on YOU MISTER! :mad: :mad:
Just kidding. :)
GO HAWKS! We're BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!
Hehe. They've definitely been on the rise the past couple years. Being a Saints fan, when they beat them in the postseason I started to realize it.
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NFL comment today:
News release this morning from the NFL Officiating Dept: "When the players hit the ground in the end zone, the officials determined that both Tate and Jennings had possession of the ball. Under the rule for simultaneous catch, the ball belongs to Tate, the offensive player. The result of the play was a touchdown.
Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.
Referee Wayne Elliott determined that no indisputable visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, and as a result, the on-field ruling of touchdown stood. The NFL Officiating Department reviewed the video today and supports the decision not to overturn the on-field ruling following the instant replay review.
The result of the game is final."
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I agree with Ripsnort. Bad calls will happen, with real refs or replacement refs. In the end, Seattle won the game. It is just as much Green Bay's fault as it is anyone else's. They got themselves into that position. Plus, all he had to do was swat the ball and the game was ovef. :bhead
This is just another prime example of why I don't watch NFL football. It is nothing but a show, and all anyone is worried about is the money.
#S#
Josh
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I'm going to repeat what EVERYONE told the Seahawks fans back in 2006 when bad calls went OUR way in a game that actually MEANT something, where the REAL officials totally blew SB40th and even ADMITTED that they blew that game..and here it ...is...-->.
Get over it. Bad calls happen. Quit yer whoopee whining and move on. It's over. We won. Bad calls happen with replacement refs, with real refs.
If your team gave up 8 sacks you have MUCH bigger issues than a badly reffed game. We should have had 12 sacks, but the refs stopped calling the holds on our defensive line in the 2nd half. :rofl
You realize this game probably had around 20 bad calls? Did you even see it or are you simply repeating yourself without regard to the subject at hand?
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More churn will be made over this meaningless non-conference game than the Super Bowl because "the good guys" (GB is a favorite in all of the Sportcaster's eyes) were at the toejamty end of a few bad calls by non-union refs. Tough crap, please start chewing harder. Sometimes the heros die.
And worst yet, no one will remember the game for what they SHOULD remember the game for...the outstanding defense that Seattle put on the field AGAIN...first dismantling the Cowboys 27-7 last week and then holding Rodgers to ZERO touchdowns and sacked 8 times!
Both defenses did well.
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You realize this game probably had around 20 bad calls? Did you even see it or are you simply repeating yourself without regard to the subject at hand?
Yes, of course, I mentioned it in the thread that you quoted, dummy. :)
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NFL comment today:
News release this morning from the NFL Officiating Dept: "When the players hit the ground in the end zone, the officials determined that both Tate and Jennings had possession of the ball. Under the rule for simultaneous catch, the ball belongs to Tate, the offensive player. The result of the play was a touchdown.
Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.
Referee Wayne Elliott determined that no indisputable visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, and as a result, the on-field ruling of touchdown stood. The NFL Officiating Department reviewed the video today and supports the decision not to overturn the on-field ruling following the instant replay review.
The result of the game is final."
Replay showed without a doubt the offensive guy had one hand on the ball.... the defender that caught it had 2 hands and the ball against his chest. They played it over and over last night and there was no doubt the defender had possession.
As far as having a favored team in the game.... I think both of them are not very good.
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Count how many hands were on the ball when they hit the ground. That's what determines it.
The ball was still live when they were airborn. :neener:
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Is there a way to blame Bush for this?
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According to every sportscaster out there, and about 50 tweets from other NFL players after the game that call was bunk.
According to one guy on an internet forum that call was good.
Call must have been good.
P.S. You forgot this in your quote of the NFL's response.
While the ball is in the air, Tate can be seen shoving Green Bay cornerback Sam Shields to the ground. This should have been a penalty for offensive pass interference, which would have ended the game. It was not called and is not reviewable in instant replay.
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That is the best they have?
I really did not care who won or lost but the officials stunk the whole game up. No more NFL for me.
Honestly, the sheer amount of sponsorship/commercialising (every sunday game seems like the super bowl now with the amount of ads shoehorned in), it's been as bad as watching baseball on TV for me and the last couple years (puts me to sleep).
Welcome to the dark side. After the first few weeks cold turkey, soccer (that other football) and other non-american-over-franchised sports starts looking really exciting and fun to watch on TV.
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Count how many hands were on the ball when they hit the ground. That's what determines it.
The ball was still live when they were airborn. :neener:
Offense guy had one arm on the ball till after they landed. Even the NFL admits the problem but it was not reviewable.
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According to every sportscaster out there, and about 50 tweets from other NFL players after the game that call was bunk.
According to one guy on an internet forum that call was good.
Call must have been good.
P.S. You forgot this in your quote of the NFL's response.
Yep, there are missed calls in every game. With or without union refs. ;) Of course, there was also the drive that would have been stopped had the refs not thrown a pass intference all on the hawks, would have stopped the GB scoring drive, but let's not go through every bad call...let's just re-live the one final call that gave us the win. :banana:
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Yep, there are missed calls in every game. With or without union refs. ;) Of course, there was also the drive that would have been stopped had the refs not thrown a pass intference all on the hawks, would have stopped the GB scoring drive, but let's not go through every bad call...let's just re-live the one final call that gave us the win. :banana:
We could also talk about the call that gave the Seahawks the only hint of momentum they had in the second half, the DPI, that was really OPI, or the roughing the passer on the INT.
This is the call that gets all the press being as it was an end of game call on Monday Night Football with everyone watching, but if there is one call over the weekend that truly proves the ineptitude involved here it has to be this.
Most confusing was the mark-off for a Lions penalty in overtime at Tennessee. Officials wound up penalizing Detroit from its 44-yard line rather than from the original line of scrimmage, the Titans 44.
Something has to give.
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Most of you will not know who this is, but you will in a couple of years. He's still work in progress... :devil
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Picture of the honeymoon:
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LOL! I am soooo stealing that!
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8 sacks though. ohhhh weeeee!
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The game needs the pro refs, not the ones hired from pop warner. Just a minute, those refs probably make better calls then what the NFL have now.
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In my 55 years of watching football I've never seen anything as blatantly wrong as the call on MNF or any other that I can recall.
I'm not a Packers or Seattle Fan. I've also seen horrible officiating in several more games this year besides this one.
Only problem this mistake can do some ireparable harm. Could keep the Packers from making the playoffs or lose
home field advanate if they do. This mistake could give an undeserving team a playoff spot as well as give them
home field advantage. Seattle is the only area of the country that is defending this catastrophe. The other 99.7%
think this call was the Officials ingnorance (hey, one guy hadda catch a plane to do a Pop Warner game Thursday)
This is only a 16 game season, not 82 and not 162. Less margin for error.
Don't pay attention to Ripsnort.....he's a died in the wool Seahawks fan. What'ya spect him to say :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Ripsnort, the entire call was heinous. The replacement refs who reviewed the call got it wrong also. Every sportscaster and current or past football player except the SeaHawks players and coaches have said it was a bad call. It was not a simultaneous reception. When the Green Bay player is holding the ball to his chest, turned away from the Seahawks player he is catching the ball and holding on to it. The Seahawk guy is only reaching around to get his hand in there. There is no doubt, it is not close.
While on the ground the Green Bay player has his back to the SeaHawks player and is laying on top of him, and again, the SeaHawks player is simply reaching around the guy to put his hand on the ball with the Green Bay guy again holding onto the ball with both hands and holding it against his chest.
We can agree that bad calls happen, the game is over and we need to move on. But you have got to be able to see that it was a bad call in consideration of what it obviously happening as I have described above.
I live in Phoenix Arizona, I am a Cardinals fan. I am a fan of football. I am a fan of knowing, seeing and embracing the truth.
It was a bad call that cost the Packers the game. None of the other "Bad Calls" during the game could definitly be said to cost either team the game as they were not the last play, in the End Zone, effecting the score enough to change the outcome.
Are you a SeaHawks fan sir ? I hope you are a fan of football and can stand up like a man and say that the call was bad, it changed the game, and the SeHawks lucked out to get the win but they did not earn it.
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Is there a way to blame Bush for this?
Don't think there is any reasonable way to blame this on any politician.....
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Ripsnort, the entire call was heinous. The replacement refs who reviewed the call got it wrong also. Every sportscaster and current or past football player except the SeaHawks players and coaches have said it was a bad call. It was not a simultaneous reception. When the Green Bay player is holding the ball to his chest, turned away from the Seahawks player he is catching the ball and holding on to it. The Seahawk guy is only reaching around to get his hand in there. There is no doubt, it is not close.
While on the ground the Green Bay player has his back to the SeaHawks player and is laying on top of him, and again, the SeaHawks player is simply reaching around the guy to put his hand on the ball with the Green Bay guy again holding onto the ball with both hands and holding it against his chest.
We can agree that bad calls happen, the game is over and we need to move on. But you have got to be able to see that it was a bad call in consideration of what it obviously happening as I have described above.
I live in Phoenix Arizona, I am a Cardinals fan. I am a fan of football. I am a fan of knowing, seeing and embracing the truth.
It was a bad call that cost the Packers the game. None of the other "Bad Calls" during the game could definitly be said to cost either team the game as they were not the last play, in the End Zone, effecting the score enough to change the outcome.
Are you a SeaHawks fan sir ? I hope you are a fan of football and can stand up like a man and say that the call was bad, it changed the game, and the SeHawks lucked out to get the win but they did not earn it.
I didnt get to watch the whole game, but I guess there was quite a few bad calls. Anyone of those calls changes the course of the game. There is always going to be bad calls and its going to happen. Right now the NFL is broken and needs to be fixed.
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Is there a way to blame Bush for this?
All top athletes want Bush! :O
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It's funny, not a speck of uproar over the appauling officiating in Super Bowl 40 (Even the head ref came out a year later and apologized for such a poorly officiated game and admitted the Hawks could have won had it not been for all the bad calls) This is probably due to the Steelers being a Media Darling, like Green Bay is today. 5 times as many bad calls, but this non-conference meaningless game got twice the national attention.
Well, I'm gonna tell y'all the same thing y'all told me in '06. Bad calls happen. We won. Move on. Quit yer squeaking and whining.
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Hey Rip! If it would have been the other way around I would have felt the same way.
And yes I did see that superbowl, and yes there were more then a few calls that went against the Hawks.
And...I howled then. Steelers got way to many officiated breaks. Another travesty.
However this is about REPLACEMENT Officals. They need to go back to Pop Warner Football.
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Hey Rip! If it would have been the other way around I would have felt the same way.
And yes I did see that superbowl, and yes there were more then a few calls that went against the Hawks.
And...I howled then. Steelers got way to many officiated breaks. Another travesty.
However this is about REPLACEMENT Officals. They need to go back to Pop Warner Football.
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It's funny, not a speck of uproar over the appauling officiating in Super Bowl 40 (Even the head ref came out a year later and apologized for such a poorly officiated game and admitted the Hawks could have won had it not been for all the bad calls) This is probably due to the Steelers being a Media Darling, like Green Bay is today. 5 times as many bad calls, but this non-conference meaningless game got twice the national attention.
Well, I'm gonna tell y'all the same thing y'all told me in '06. Bad calls happen. We won. Move on. Quit yer squeaking and whining.
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Whiles that was bad it pales in comparison to all the bad calls in this game. I'd have to disagree with you on GB being a media darling. lol
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You mean make the government go back to serving the people???? :D
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So, looks like there is an agreement.
Will everyone go back to squeaking about these refs in College football now?
:lol
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Speaking of replacements, how about a replacement weather guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4rP_KZnvaA&feature=player_embedded
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:rofl
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It's funny, not a speck of uproar over the appauling officiating in Super Bowl 40 (Even the head ref came out a year later and apologized for such a poorly officiated game and admitted the Hawks could have won had it not been for all the bad calls) This is probably due to the Steelers being a Media Darling, like Green Bay is today. 5 times as many bad calls, but this non-conference meaningless game got twice the national attention.
Well, I'm gonna tell y'all the same thing y'all told me in '06. Bad calls happen. We won. Move on. Quit yer squeaking and whining.
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Im with Ripsnort and Seattle 100%, it' in the books - done deal - bad calls happen, and I haven't been to Seattle in over 10-years.
Ontop of it all, I thought it was a pretty decent call... this isn't the first time I've seen an (extremely) arguable call because of a questionable "in-the-air on-the-ground" call (although as a first - this was made by a likely non-overpaid ref, and it may of been AGAINST the favored over-franchise team (guess this non-pro bread-n-butter ref missed the pro memo about brown-nosing for your bacon)).
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/Thread. :rofl
(we'll call it a trade now, im stealing that)
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Well lock out over. Regular refs are coming back.
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I wonder how much Ed Hochuli paid those guys to do that. Well played, Ed... Well played. :noid
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In the end even the NFL said the call was bad and that GB should have won.
Well it put the nail in the coffin so to speak as the lockout is over.
Tonights game will have pro refs.
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Don't forget about the 8 sacks.
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In the end even the NFL said the call was bad and that GB should have won.
Well it put the nail in the coffin so to speak as the lockout is over.
Tonights game will have pro refs.
Don't forget about the 8 sacks.
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When a typical cheesehead is confronted with this fact of the debate, I'm getting :confused: over :rolleyes: or :furious responces, which kinda speaks for itelf. :aok
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LOL, that reminds me of the front page picture of the Arkansas newspaper after Texas gave them a thrashing in the Cotton Bowl many years ago.
The caption was "The Eyes of Texas".
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I wonder how much Ed Hochuli paid those guys to do that. Well played, Ed... Well played. :noid
Speaking of Ed Hochuli: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHQZfBqP10M
Best thing I've seen on YouTube all week, lol.