No icons is great if you know what you're looking for i.e. american aircraft, luftwaffe, IJN etc. but with everyone flying anything how do you know if you are fighting a friendly or an enemy?
Just throwing this out there....
:headscratch:
:devil:One LIFE for every 1 hour of REAL TIME. No respawns during that time. Can be "in tower" but can not use anything except change tower. This is to include chat and communications your dead, ember....
:angel: Country selection has a "until current map changes" type of "cool down" once you have selected a country and decide to change country's.
:joystick: No icons. (No :cry about this one sissys... If you have never done it with squad mates then how do you know you won't like it? :old:)
:banana: No cross country chat or communication.
:O No Real Time Feed Back from Clipboard Map of ANYONE'S location/position. :cry JUST the map display (think VFR)
All of that :bolt: In one arena.
I would just like to see a tour where the war was condensed with a rolling planeset.
A different light...
You and 3 of your squaddies FingerFour ingress into enemy airspace. No bogies in sight with target airfield on the horizon...
"Check airfield... Did I just see a con lift?" squaks the vox from your wingman.
"No Viz" You reply as you both start manuvering for visual contact.
Heart pumping... And if it is not it will be. No icons for the diehard... No clipboard "radar" map to fly by outside of visual range... No one without friends or squad mates will be here.... Or will they Lone Wolf?¿?
"CONTACT... Eleven O'clock low... Check that TWO Contacts TWO Contacts."
"Roger That"
Rolling over to nose on you and your wingman advise the second wing to stay high and provide cover for a double attack. In the saddle for a whole new experience from an allready great game....
Squaddies going in for some squad vs squad.
If your Top Ace for that you could really brag about skill?
Just a thought...
RPS was a failure in WBLast time I ventured in there for a look see they were trying it again in the WWII arena but this time it seemed popular as there were four people in the arena and three in the main.
We call it special events.
Enjoy a near empty arena then. RPS was a failure in WB and considering HiTech was the developer of WB, you would think if the RPS was successful he would have carried it over to AH. In short, people don't like to be dicated on what they can fly and when, especially if they are paying to play.
ack-ack
I've been here a year and have only seen people in the Axis Vs Allies arena on one occasion.
Seriously.....I actually look every time I log in.
I want it even more just because Ack Ack hates the realism in plane matchups it can bring.
wow so many replies to the dumbest post ever. Obviously a troll nothing to see here move along_______ :headscratch:Not a troll if anything false advertisement.
Hmmm I'll have to check into that then. Sounds fun :aok
they are :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLMHuEHun1Y
Funny cuz the ava has seen good numbers ALL week. Icepak I ask in all seriousness: can I have some of your drugs?
wow so many replies to the dumbest post ever. Obviously a troll nothing to see here move along_______ :headscratch:
Ok....If I see numbers in A vs A, I will be sure to pad my score at the expense of yours like the other 8 guys who own you and somehow fly there without it being apparent in the arena selection screen.
The sad part is that I have only once (11 months ago) seen numbers above zero population and that only lasted a couple of hours before it went back to zero.
Gentleman <S>
Deadstik is still pretty new here so let's try and cut him a bit of slack.
The AVA is more "Hardcore" then the mains are and enjoys a limited clientele.
I think what you are suggesting Deadstik, is much more severe and therefore might have an even smaller following.
There are things that you cannot emulate in the main arena' base on your suggestions, but there are things that you can.
You and you alone decide how you fly and you can do some of the things you suggest for your "Hardcore" arena without forcing the game to provide them.
Flying low and slow: that is fun for many people in here. Flying on the edge (because you don't actually die) and doing things the real pilots were not meant to do, but could - that is more fun than disengaging a target, because there is another bandit coming in and you might have a fair fight on your hands. :rolleyes: If everyone flew "not to die", this game would be boring as Hell and quickly go out of business.
Be thankful that people take risks. Those pilots allow you and all your wingmen to swoop in and tag-team them and then return to triumphant fanfare. :cheers:
Ok....If I see numbers in A vs A, I will be sure to pad my score at the expense of yours like the other 8 guys who own you and somehow fly there without it being apparent in the arena selection screen.
The sad part is that I have only once (11 months ago) seen numbers above zero population and that only lasted a couple of hours before it went back to zero.
PUH-leeze, Zoney....This is the king of trolls.
The AVA is not more "hard core" at all... Its an arbitrarily decided set of rules that a select few think is "more elite" and "requiring more awesome skillz" that they mandate based upon their own prejudiced ideas taken from the IL2 community.
It's far more gamey than the MA, even. 1.0 fuel burn with bases 10 miles apart means every plane flies around near empty weight. Almost every time I'm in there it's nothing but people hiding from fights until they think they can pick without being seen. Flying without icons is akin to flying legally blind, and no pilot would be allowed up in the air, ever, with the kind of vision it provides. In reality you can spot airplanes with great clarity at very long ranges. The select few AvA bandwagon-riders use TrackIR and maximum zoom to get around this but don't be fooled -- they have found a way to game the limitations they set for themselves.
It isn't any more realistic nor is it any more elite, and the constant claims that it takes more skill, talent, and l33tness to fly in the AvA is just self-stroking on their part. They throw a condescending attitude into any conversation to the contrary and with a dismissive wave ignore any details, facts, or logical/scientific arguments that counter what they want to believe in.
PUH-leeze, Zoney....
The AVA is not more "hard core" at all... Its an arbitrarily decided set of rules that a select few think is "more elite" and "requiring more awesome skillz" that they mandate based upon their own prejudiced ideas taken from the IL2 community.
It's far more gamey than the MA, even. 1.0 fuel burn with bases 10 miles apart means every plane flies around near empty weight. Almost every time I'm in there it's nothing but people hiding from fights until they think they can pick without being seen. Flying without icons is akin to flying legally blind, and no pilot would be allowed up in the air, ever, with the kind of vision it provides. In reality you can spot airplanes with great clarity at very long ranges. The select few AvA bandwagon-riders use TrackIR and maximum zoom to get around this but don't be fooled -- they have found a way to game the limitations they set for themselves.
It isn't any more realistic nor is it any more elite, and the constant claims that it takes more skill, talent, and l33tness to fly in the AvA is just self-stroking on their part. They throw a condescending attitude into any conversation to the contrary and with a dismissive wave ignore any details, facts, or logical/scientific arguments that counter what they want to believe in.
PUH-leeze, Zoney....Im sorry i love the AVA and am deffinatly onthre band wagon but I dont use track IR, nor am I zoomed in all the time but I dont blame those that do use it as having unfair advantage as anybody can get track IR), also I will never claim its hard to kill me as =I have zero confedence in my ability in this game, I simply like the AVA because the setups are not the hordefest you often find in the MA and the planets are as time specific as the GM's can make it(I know, Karnak),people in there aren't as trollish as the MA(IN MY OPINION) nor elitist at all(in my EXPERENCE), Possibly before I played s there could have been some bad seeds but, I don't let a bad experience at a McDonald's in 1987 stop me from geeting a sweet tea and a dbl stack now and then. Holding gruges is never the action of a truely wise man. :old:
No icons is great if you know what you're looking for i.e. american aircraft, luftwaffe, IJN etc. but with everyone flying anything how do you know if you are fighting a friendly or an enemy?
As you and your wing make last minute adjustments you put out on range voxPure, unadulterated fantasy. The reality of it wouldn't bear they slightest resemblance to that.
"Two ponys at twelve-five crusing 400 indicated, heading north, range check for contact, over"
You hear "Roger that northbound ponys me and my wingman are in long visual on airfield 3. We have what looks like three cons lifting and turning nose on. We're on the deck heading west to intercept, will come in over the top and bounce them if we drag them too you?"
"Big Roger That. We are comming in from the two o'clock vector or north by northeast of airfield 3" you reply.
"Roger that dragging them that too you on the deck" you hear.
"Roger That" you respond on range... Then on squad vox you tell your wing to nose on airfield 3.
Silence as you ingress in to help these guys with a 3v2 situation knowing you will quickly make it 4v0 :devil
"Visual! Long eleven" your wingman says on squad vox
"Roger that long viz as well. Let me get them on range" "We got you guys on long viz and are comming down now..."
PUH-leeze, Zoney....
The AVA is not more "hard core" at all... Its an arbitrarily decided set of rules that a select few think is "more elite" and "requiring more awesome skillz" that they mandate based upon their own prejudiced ideas taken from the IL2 community.
It's far more gamey than the MA, even. 1.0 fuel burn with bases 10 miles apart means every plane flies around near empty weight. Almost every time I'm in there it's nothing but people hiding from fights until they think they can pick without being seen. Flying without icons is akin to flying legally blind, and no pilot would be allowed up in the air, ever, with the kind of vision it provides. In reality you can spot airplanes with great clarity at very long ranges. The select few AvA bandwagon-riders use TrackIR and maximum zoom to get around this but don't be fooled -- they have found a way to game the limitations they set for themselves.
It isn't any more realistic nor is it any more elite, and the constant claims that it takes more skill, talent, and l33tness to fly in the AvA is just self-stroking on their part. They throw a condescending attitude into any conversation to the contrary and with a dismissive wave ignore any details, facts, or logical/scientific arguments that counter what they want to believe in.
Ok....If I see numbers in A vs A, I will be sure to pad my score at the expense of yours like the other 8 guys who own you and somehow fly there without it being apparent in the arena selection screen.
The sad part is that I have only once (11 months ago) seen numbers above zero population and that only lasted a couple of hours before it went back to zero.
As you and your wing make last minute adjustments you put out on range vox
"Two ponys at twelve-five crusing 400 indicated, heading north, range check for contact, over"
You hear "Roger that northbound ponys me and my wingman are in long visual on airfield 3. We have what looks like three cons lifting and turning nose on. We're on the deck heading west to intercept, will come in over the top and bounce them if we drag them too you?"
"Big Roger That. We are comming in from the two o'clock vector or north by northeast of airfield 3" you reply.
"Roger that dragging them that too you on the deck" you hear.
"Roger That" you respond on range... Then on squad vox you tell your wing to nose on airfield 3.
Silence as you ingress in to help these guys with a 3v2 situation knowing you will quickly make it 4v0 :devil
"Visual! Long eleven" your wingman says on squad vox
"Roger that long viz as well. Let me get them on range" "We got you guys on long viz and are comming down now..."
Im sorry i love the AVA and am deffinatly onthre band wagon but I dont use track IR, nor am I zoomed in all the time but I dont blame those that do use it as having unfair advantage as anybody can get track IR), also I will never claim its hard to kill me as =I have zero confedence in my ability in this game, I simply like the AVA because the setups are not the hordefest you often find in the MA and the planets are as time specific as the GM's can make it(I know, Karnak),people in there aren't as trollish as the MA(IN MY OPINION) nor elitist at all(in my EXPERENCE), Possibly before I played s there could have been some bad seeds but, I don't let a bad experience at a McDonald's in 1987 stop me from geeting a sweet tea and a dbl stack now and then. Holding gruges is never the action of a truely wise man. :old:No need to apologize, Nathan. Enjoy the fun and ignore the simplistic and narrow minded who are stuck it their archaic views.
I would just like to see a tour where the war was condensed with a rolling planeset.
I would just like to see a tour where the war was condensed with a rolling planeset.
PUH-leeze, Zoney....
The AVA is not more "hard core" at all... Its an arbitrarily decided set of rules that a select few think is "more elite" and "requiring more awesome skillz" that they mandate based upon their own prejudiced ideas taken from the IL2 community.
It's far more gamey than the MA, even. 1.0 fuel burn with bases 10 miles apart means every plane flies around near empty weight. Almost every time I'm in there it's nothing but people hiding from fights until they think they can pick without being seen. Flying without icons is akin to flying legally blind, and no pilot would be allowed up in the air, ever, with the kind of vision it provides. In reality you can spot airplanes with great clarity at very long ranges. The select few AvA bandwagon-riders use TrackIR and maximum zoom to get around this but don't be fooled -- they have found a way to game the limitations they set for themselves.
It isn't any more realistic nor is it any more elite, and the constant claims that it takes more skill, talent, and l33tness to fly in the AvA is just self-stroking on their part. They throw a condescending attitude into any conversation to the contrary and with a dismissive wave ignore any details, facts, or logical/scientific arguments that counter what they want to believe in.
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:joystick: No icons. (No :cry about this one sissys... If you have never done it with squad mates then how do you know you won't like it? :old:)
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krusty is just frustrated because his skill set is limited and his cartoon plane suffers defeat in any environment with less than 6k icons and limeted dar.. :ahandSee, this here is the kind of elitist BS that we're referring to. Why should I play in an environment where I am at a disadvantage due to computer hardware, not skill?
PUH-leeze, Zoney....
The AVA is not more "hard core" at all... Its an arbitrarily decided set of rules that a select few think is "more elite" and "requiring more awesome skillz" that they mandate based upon their own prejudiced ideas taken from the IL2 community.
It's far more gamey than the MA, even. 1.0 fuel burn with bases 10 miles apart means every plane flies around near empty weight. Almost every time I'm in there it's nothing but people hiding from fights until they think they can pick without being seen. Flying without icons is akin to flying legally blind, and no pilot would be allowed up in the air, ever, with the kind of vision it provides. In reality you can spot airplanes with great clarity at very long ranges. The select few AvA bandwagon-riders use TrackIR and maximum zoom to get around this but don't be fooled -- they have found a way to game the limitations they set for themselves.
It isn't any more realistic nor is it any more elite, and the constant claims that it takes more skill, talent, and l33tness to fly in the AvA is just self-stroking on their part. They throw a condescending attitude into any conversation to the contrary and with a dismissive wave ignore any details, facts, or logical/scientific arguments that counter what they want to believe in.
Really, "sissys"? Why do so many of the posts about the AvA toss around nonsense like this?
By leading off with immature junk like that, whatever else you might say is very easy to dismiss.
See, this here is the kind of elitist BS that we're referring to. Why should I play in an environment where I am at a disadvantage due to computer hardware, not skill?
If you prefer ambushes and not fights, no icons is for you.
Pure, unadulterated fantasy. The reality of it wouldn't bear they slightest resemblance to that.Got some experience doing it for real, do ya? At least these guys are giving it a try vs. whining and complaining.
Got some experience doing it for real, do ya? At least these guys are giving it a try vs. whining and complaining.I did not mean "real WWII". I meant the reality of gameplay in settings like that, and yes, I do have a little experience in those settings.
extra-hard core = 1 life per month.:rofl
that should work well. :aok
raise the price to $100/ month as well. super hardcore.
Really, "sissys"? Why do so many of the posts about the AvA toss around nonsense like this?
By leading off with immature junk like that, whatever else you might say is very easy to dismiss.
I was trying to be funny, cus I know ppl whine about no icons.....
and yes, I do have a little experience in those settings.I wasn't referring to settings and neither was he. You missed the point.
Now I'll address the post itself, lot's of misinformation here.
Yes, there is lots of misinformation going around. Most of it from the select few running and controlling the AvA. I'm sorry Jimson, but you have arbitrarily chosen a series of settings to artificially handicap yourselves, and then you claim because you have gamed the NEW game, that you are all better than anyone who doesn't care to fly under your settings.
I'm sorry, but the AvA is a sham. It's an egotistical playground for the AvA regulars. That is why you don't get any new players in there. Just like it was years ago, it's a private club. The club members have changed, and they changed the charter, but it's still the same thing.
anyone who says icons on is more realistic is...well.......wrong......
and never have I heard or got a feeling the AVA'ers were more elite or acted so....... :headscratch:
I have been to the ava a few times and always had fun. but to be honest i cant see the airplanes unless they have an icon. last time i was there was with jughead and he had a laptop that was like 30 years old while mine is a really nice one. but due to my eyesight i had to ask him where the planes where till i could see the icon. that's basically the reason i dont go there.
semp
Listen, it's 2012, times are changing.. With quality 1920x1080 42"-46" monitors now priced @ $500 and dropping, along with tools like track ir, we are seeing more and more folks moving toward a no icon environment.
Listen, it's 2012, times are changing.. With quality 1920x1080 42"-46" monitors now priced @ $500 and dropping, along with tools like track ir, we are seeing more and more folks moving toward a no icon environment.As I said, you fly with advantages that make it work for you. For those who don't have those things, no icons is crippling. I don't have trackIR, which means the zoom is only really useful for things right in front of me as I cannot look at a pixel and then zoom in on it. Basically the more limited the icons the more dependent on hardware one's success becomes. Icons are an equalizer.
And then there are people who just believe that your eyesight, video setup and how you've got your settings tweaked shouldn't be the single most important aspect of being able to play the game. :aok
Wiley.
As I said, you fly with advantages that make it work for you. For those who don't have those things, no icons is crippling. I don't have trackIR, which means the zoom is only really useful for things right in front of me as I cannot look at a pixel and then zoom in on it. Basically the more limited the icons the more dependent on hardware one's success becomes. Icons are an equalizer.I dont have those things and they do not cripple me in any form. I zoom to find contacts but do you often zoom while looking for a con once merged? If your already in contact why zoom? when not in contact and looking for a contact whats so hard about zooming and using mouse. I'm not attackig that you dont have problems but dont assume EVERYONE will have the problems you have. If your eyes are bad that is beyond the control of the staff. Most of the people that have posted negatively about AVA have demonstrated a bias against the staff of the AVA so I take your posts on the subject with that in mind.
fyi, 1080p sucks. My old, sadly no longer working, 23" screen was higher resolution than that. Unfortunately screen makers are, by and large, abandoning PCs in favor of just making TV screens. If you want an actual PC screen it'll cost you a lot more.
I already explained that less resolution means bigger contact dots so I fail to see how this is an advantage. Pleasse explain how having the vid cranked to max is going to help someone see a con dot when higher resolutionn is going to mean that dot is SMALLER?
I never said having your vid cranked to the max. What I DID say, is that depending on how you've got your settings tweaked (lower resolution, AA/AF off, and any other little tricks you can use to make that dot bigger or stand out more, most of which makes the game look worse overall) coupled with your eyesight shouldn't be the single most important aspect of your ability to play.
It's cheesy.
Wiley.
3. Set a resolution that is appropriate for your monitor size. Don't run the highest resolution you can just to do it. I use a 19 inch monitor and find 1024 X 768 in Aces High the best for no icons. Find one that works for you.
High resolution and maxed out graphics settings is not always better. Go offline or in an arena like the DA and play with your video settings to discover what settings allow you to "spot the dot" with the greatest ease. Each hardware setup will differ but the things that have worked for my in the past are as follows.
4. Experiment with anti-aliasing. Anti-aliasing smooths the edges by filling in pixels with intermediate colors. On a computer displaying a dark, small object AA sometimes tends to wash it out against the background. Find the AA setting that works best.
Not true. Turning off AA makes the dots easier to see because it doesn't smooth the edges.I have never seen that post but I'm sorry I still don't thin that tweaking anything is the main determiner of effectiveness, I think ACM and SA trumps any tweaking. As I already stated I tweak nothing other than Field of view so I dont see where your going with the bolded part. You can't simply ignore parts of my posts to make your point, or state that something is implied an you see it. I really dont see tweaking as something akin to icon atall your not going to see all the cons all the time and in his post Raven even says to find what works best for you. It's not a gamebreaker IMO it's fine if you opinion differs but dint put your opinion out as fact at every opportunity
Good for you, you've got your setup so you can see dots.
My point is, the fact that you either have to futz around with your video settings to be able to see them at all, or you can futz around with them to be able to see the dots better shouldn't be the main determiner of your effectiveness. The guide Raven linked to is a fine example of this:
With an implied "...because if you don't do this, your ability to spot them will be less than it could be.'
Wiley.
I have never seen that post but I'm sorry I still dont thin that tweaking anything is the main determiner of effectiveness, I think ACM and SA trumps any tweaking.
As I already stated I tweak nothing oither than feild of view so I dont see where your going with the bolded part. You can't simply ignore parts of my posts to make your point, or state that someohting is implied an you see it.
Inessence your implying its impossible to be competative in AVA unless you use the setup that works best for you(which you should do anyway), which is kinda asinine as some people have rudders and other "tweaks" and fly in the MA's with such 'tweaks' yet there are people playing with a laptop and mouse and doing well in there. Also how is the no Icons any different from the no icon in FSO?
Wiley severla time this week I had "regualrs" tell mne they never saw me but listend to where i was by engine noise,so even in a fight the guys that have all tweaked out their comps lose sigth of me as for seeing cons at 8 to 6 k th only way i do that is if they are above me and not in clouds, you want to know how peopel know where you are? Hit esc and bring up the clipboard map as the dot radar is up.m My monitor is a 25 inch CRT monitor an its mnot the best out there. I didnt luck into anything I still have difficulty finding a con but Im not going to say "hey this guy saw me first thats not fair' Its nioce of you to tolerate FSO however but your reason for doing so seems flat to me as you can do the same thing in the AVA.
Lose sight, lose fight. There is precisely nothing more important than being able to follow and track the bandit. If you don't see the bandit, you have no SA. All the ACM in the world isn't going to help you if you can't see the enemy aircraft.
What I meant by the bolded part is, you are fortunate enough to have the right combination of settings enabled/disabled by default, and a monitor that allows you to see the dots with your eyesight. I'm glad you lucked into that. It doesn't change the fact that for many, we can't see stuff until the dots change somewhere in the 8k range or the 6k range if we're lucky.
There's a gigantic difference between having pedals and adjusting your control inputs and being able to see a bandit. If you don't see that, I can't help you.
As far as FSO, I tolerate low icons in the FSO by pretty much having a seeing eye wingman.
Wiley.
Your Right, the correct equipment makes it far more enjoyable. Especially if your eyesight is poor,think of a big monitor as a new pair of glasses.
The correct equipment for a no or limeted icon environment takes simmiming to an entierly new level.
Listen, it's 2012, times are changing.. With quality 1920x1080 42"-46" monitors now priced @ $500 and dropping, along with tools like track ir, we are seeing more and more folks moving toward a no icon environment.
Limeted icons is not for everyone, but if your willing to add a new and different skill set to your Repertoire. It's well worth the small investment to experience the immersion purity and intensity it offers.
The AVA is a good place to try it out. Icons or not the AVA set ups are fun and have a special event feel to them 24/7 and the crowed is very friendly and supportive,not snobby or elite :)CLICK HERE FOR VIDO Tips on playing in a no icon environment (http://www.fogofwar.info/help-tips.html)(http://www.fogofwar.info/P42inch9_1_.jpg)
I ahve no problems with your opinion I just don't like how it always seems to be presented as flat out fact by a few people not just you Wiley(not trying to attack) in any AVA discussion. If you would say ['I find it hard to play in the AVA and this is why, but dont let my experence deter you from trying'(like Semp did) I wouldnt even have posted my responses.
All the things that the A vs A regulars said "we've already tried that" were tried by them.Why dont you join the development staff then? You don't liek the set up they get that but plenty of others do and there have been recent polls conducted that back that up.
There are plenty here who are newer than 5 years ago who never got the chance to "try that".
I don't care if the map doen't rotate......you simply make two fields uncapturable.
It's not like 27 guys will be waiting to vulch you because the total arena population is only about 15 people who fly more than 10 sorties in a tour anyway.......the rest fly one or two and leave.
The arena sits empty every time I check it.
It is simply nothing more than another special events arena.
"and carthage must be destroyed"......I mean...."a rolling planeset must be deployed"
And yet according to you, there is no problem because you can see the dots with your setup, presented as flat out fact. Same difference. To be honest, you're a reasonable sort, Nathan. We both only have our own experiences to go by, we've both only ever looked out of one set of eyes. I'm basing my opinion on the fact that at native resolution on my 21" monitor, I can't see the dots my squaddies can pick up generally a minute or two of closing before I can.I said I dont have a problem, and I am running a lesser setup with no tweaks(other than field of view) I also mention its my opinion. I said it wasnt the MAIN determining factor and everyone has the resouses to counterset the problem t Like I mention in the posts above polls were done and the fact that there are posts guiding how others can tweak thier systems should show there is not eltism by allas a general rule in the AVA IN reavans post he even mentions such and I havent seen it. Im glad you make the point that a forum post should be a determining factor to those who want to try it.
as all i would be is bait.
semp
Enjoy a near empty arena then. RPS was a failure in WB and considering HiTech was the developer of WB, you would think if the RPS was successful he would have carried it over to AH. In short, people don't like to be dicated on what they can fly and when, especially if they are paying to play.
ack-ack
ack-ack you are wrong about HiTech making WB's. Ient and HiTech people work together as a team developer on the old Air Warrior Series, when the company
that own the Air Warriors Series sold the company, wildbil and HiTech started to build AH, then wildbil did not like the way AH was being develop, so he left and
started the Ient, and from there he made War Birds. I know the History of both of these companies. I know wildbil and help test Ient Battle Of Britain Sim for the
History Channel back in 1999 or 2000. So before you make a statement of HiTech making War Birds make sure of your facts.
ack-ack you are wrong about HiTech making WB's. Ient and HiTech people work together as a team developer on the old Air Warrior Series, when the company
that own the Air Warriors Series sold the company, wildbil and HiTech started to build AH, then wildbil did not like the way AH was being develop, so he left and
started the Ient, and from there he made War Birds. I know the History of both of these companies. I know wildbil and help test Ient Battle Of Britain Sim for the
History Channel back in 1999 or 2000. So before you make a statement of HiTech making War Birds make sure of your facts.
All here who have played in a 1 death per day arena say I have.
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HiTech
Wiley is my bestest friend. We have flow as wingies for countless hours. I always always always see the dots before he does, and my eyesight is very poor. I have kerotonitus, a degenrative disorder that one day will take from me, the ability to play the game I love so much. I love "the idea" of the AvA, because of the historical matchups. I need the icons however, without them I really have no chance. Also, when I have played there, specifically with a wingman, (Wiley), I experienced an elitist, uninviting attitude. We were harrassed for using wingman tactics instead of fighting 1 on 1. Not just once, several times I have been told by the regulars frankly to "leave if you won't play our way", so I left. Right now I know it is jet week. I love flying ME262's. I would love to fly against other 262's but yet, I have not gone in there. It is my loss, not the loss of the AvA regulars as they have made it abundantly clear that I am not welcome.
Yeah, this is a very harsh criticism of the AvA. I would love for my opinion to change because those flying there have changed their attitudes.
In conclusion, for me, I speak for no one else, I need enemy Icon's at 3k and friendly attitudes to come play there.
The setting should not be changed just for me, I understand that. If that is the settings that the majority want then I have no complaint about that.
ack-ack you are wrong about HiTech making WB's. Ient and HiTech people work together as a team developer on the old Air Warrior Series, when the company
that own the Air Warriors Series sold the company, wildbil and HiTech started to build AH, then wildbil did not like the way AH was being develop, so he left and
started the Ient, and from there he made War Birds. I know the History of both of these companies. I know wildbil and help test Ient Battle Of Britain Sim for the
History Channel back in 1999 or 2000. So before you make a statement of HiTech making War Birds make sure of your facts.
ack-ack you are wrong about HiTech making WB's. Ient and HiTech people work together as a team developer on the old Air Warrior Series, when the company
that own the Air Warriors Series sold the company, wildbil and HiTech started to build AH, then wildbil did not like the way AH was being develop, so he left and
started the Ient, and from there he made War Birds. I know the History of both of these companies. I know wildbil and help test Ient Battle Of Britain Sim for the
History Channel back in 1999 or 2000. So before you make a statement of HiTech making War Birds make sure of your facts.
I don't know about the current culture in the AvA but, it's past iterationsTrue, you apparently don't know about the current culture. So, what purpose does the past serve in your statement? Come on in and give it go. :salute
I was just hoping one of the many empty arenas could have a rolling plane set for current players to try out.
A rolling plane set would be hard pressed to further empty out an arena that is already empty.
In other news......It's possible warbirds is currently running a rolling plane set in the main arena.
I remember an air warrior con at the Hyatt in fairfax and feeling that something big was on the horizon.....and it was......and still is.
I went to a lot of gaming cons in the early 90s at the crystal city marriot............most of those games are history.
stay away from the AvA arena, 3 times I went there i found admins not to happy and got kicked.
bunch of kids.
stay away from the AvA arena, 3 times I went there i found admins not to happy and got kicked.
bunch of kids.
stay away from the AvA arena, 3 times I went there i found admins not to happy and got kicked.
bunch of kids.
stay away from the AvA arena, 3 times I went there i found admins not to happy and got kicked.
bunch of kids.
That is an outright lie.
Wall of angry text.