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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MarineUS on October 23, 2012, 09:16:47 PM
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Jonathan Moreno earns the title of “Worst Person in the World” today – and why do we bestow such an honor on this lucky individual? Moreno it seems, is being sued by a former employee at the New Life Fitness World gym in Lexington after he was fired by Moreno for being a Disabled Veteran.
The former employee, Jonathan Brown, was a Marine that suffered wounds in service to our nation, in Operation Iraqi Freedom, that left him with a disability to his vision. The disability required him to go to the VA for treatment. It seems that Moreno felt that his needing to attend medical appointments just wasn’t working out, despite Brown making up the time he was missing, and fired him stating his being a disabled veteran as the reason.
To make matters worse, Brown has recently had to put his home up for sale as a result of his sudden loss of employment.
Never before have I seen such a blatant assault against a veteran by someone who has done nothing but reap the freedom that veterans have paid for in blood. This disrespectful little toejam really makes my blood boil.
The owner of New Life Fitness claims that the reason for Brown’s firing is something other than what Moreno wrote, and apparently they are refuting that.
You can read more about this story from here:
http://www.wistv.com/story/19881174/lawsuit-claims-former-marine-fired-for-being-disabled-veteran
Stolen Valor released a piece as well, you can check that out here:
http://guardianofvalor.com/new-life-fitness-world-fired-marine-from-his-job-for-being-a-disabled-veteran/
Original post here: http://us-infantry.com/worst-person-in-the-world-man-fires-veteran-for-being-disabled-veteran/
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Sheesh, I can't begin to tell you how much reading that upsets me. What a low life.
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sounds legit :rolleyes:
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I would think that the ADA would cover that.
shamus
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sounds legit :rolleyes:
You are off your game. More and more obvious everyday.
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:headscratch: that's not even a troll, you really believe that crap? Bet dollars to doughnuts that story is omitting half the facts or just sensationalizing whatever facts are available
Lost count of the amount of BS stories like this I've seen and heard over the years, if anything those articles are the troll, not me :)
An effective troll that never fails to get people real riled up = veteran being discriminated against
Edit: I just read the wistv article, there is a brilliant piece of journalism in there, implying that the stated reason for dismissal was because he is a disabled vet WITHOUT specifically saying it. Because that would be libel.
It's too much effort to copy and paste on my phone but take a look and see if you can spot it
That's the media in a nutshell these days, and it really makes me sad that people fall for it everytime,hook , line and sinker
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:headscratch: that's not even a troll, you really believe that crap? Bet dollars to doughnuts that story is omitting half the facts or just sensationalizing whatever facts are available
Lost count of the amount of BS stories like this I've seen and heard over the years, if anything those articles are the troll, not me :)
An effective troll that never fails to get people real riled up = veteran being discriminated against
Edit: I just read the wistv article, there is a brilliant piece of journalism in there, implying that the stated reason for dismissal was because he is a disabled vet WITHOUT specifically saying it. Because that would be libel.
It's too much effort to copy and paste on my phone but take a look and see if you can spot it
That's the media in a nutshell these days, and it really makes me sad that people fall for it everytime,hook , line and sinker
I honestly thought you were just being a troll. I couldn't be bothered to read the stories. My "outrage" would accomplish nothing so why be "outraged."
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i cant read the second reason posted.
it looks like the reason it says is "disabled veteran, 1 efi and...."
just curious what they dont show the end of the sentence.
semp
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I find the general disrespect towards Vets and military people in this country to be disgusting.
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I find the general disrespect towards Vets and military people in this country to be disgusting.
To each his own
Personally, I find fat people disgusting
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i cant read the second reason posted.
it looks like the reason it says is "disabled veteran, 1 efi and...."
just curious what they dont show the end of the sentence.
semp
All the way at the bottom they seem to have a full copy, but still nothing usefull after disabled veteran welcom to a full on ADA enema for that company. The judge will roll laughing at any defense given that document was signed by all. They better toss the GM who approved it too. They would lose their defense case even in NH which is a right to work state, meaning you can be fired at any time without reason, but I assure you, you had better have a reason every time. They cannot win they will pay through every available orifice no matter what they say was the reason now.
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To each his own
Personally, I find fat people disgusting
You hate Americans? :)
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All the way at the bottom they seem to have a full copy, but still nothing usefull after disabled veteran welcom to a full on ADA enema for that company. The judge will roll laughing at any defense given that document was signed by all. They better toss the GM who approved it too. They would lose their defense case even in NH which is a right to work state, meaning you can be fired at any time without reason, but I assure you, you had better have a reason every time. They cannot win they will pay through every available orifice no matter what they say was the reason now.
i see what there's 2 codes on that page. the gm did make a big mistake by writing disabled veteran, he should have only written the codes. btw the gm doesnt make a decision of firing a store manager without approval from higher ups. the gm doesnt work there anymore as he "quit" I bet anything it was because of that mistake.
and this is another reason why you should always file an application for familly leave when you need time away from work to take care of your own illness.
semp
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You hate Americans? :)
I love you and your chubby cheeks <3
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This happens a lot. Years ago I got fired on my first day after I told the boss that I would need 2-3 days off in a month because i was getting carpal tunnel surgery. then she told me to get my job back I would need a doctors note. So brought in the note after the surgery and never heard from her again. The moral of the story is never be honest with your employer about your health. Its none of there business unless you need some sort of accommodation to do your job.
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I love you and your chubby cheeks <3
It's hilarious how much you bash on the U.S., be happy your first language isn't German... :)
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I love you and your chubby cheeks <3
And i love you ability to rape faces in CS:S <3
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This happens a lot. Years ago I got fired on my first day after I told the boss that I would need 2-3 days off in a month because i was getting carpal tunnel surgery. then she told me to get my job back I would need a doctors note. So brought in the note after the surgery and never heard from her again. The moral of the story is never be honest with your employer about your health. Its none of there business unless you need some sort of accommodation to do your job.
Similar thing happened to me. However, while I was being diagnosed for some things through the VA, I requested an accommodation and was fired. The reason for being fired was a result of the time needed to get better and receiving treatment. Once I was fired, I had 30 days to appeal with the appropriatre paperwork. The doctor notes were not good enough. I received the paperwork I needed 4 months after the appeal process ended. Now, I lost my home and my job. Thing is, my employer is one of the federal agencies promoting hiring veterans. Politically, they are doing it. But, once at the local level, they actually target veterans because they block points. I am among a handful that were fired in the past 12 months. When I blew the whistle on them, it backfired. I can't even get a Senator to listen right now. I am considering bringing in the news agencies...
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When I was being re-activated to the corps due to 1st gulf war, my employer said he didn't have to hold my job due to the unknown length of time it would be before I got back. After I got back I was told I was let go due to absenteeism from the job. When I presented all my paperwork to the unemployment department, the guy I was working for subsequently lost his business.
I can feel the pain this guy feels and I hope he gets everything he deserves.
LawnDart
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i see what there's 2 codes on that page. the gm did make a big mistake by writing disabled veteran, he should have only written the codes. btw the gm doesnt make a decision of firing a store manager without approval from higher ups. the gm doesnt work there anymore as he "quit" I bet anything it was because of that mistake.
and this is another reason why you should always file an application for familly leave when you need time away from work to take care of your own illness.
semp
I have no idea how they manage their HR system with regards to onsite issues.
The second part yoyu note is FMLA which has a variett of filing implicatiuons and requires a minimum of one year with that employer to qualify. Not knowing that I can't say if he could/should have filed. But the reason on his dismissal slip is all the reason necessary to qualify for an ADA issue.
Bob
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I have no idea how they manage their HR system with regards to onsite issues.
The second part yoyu note is FMLA which has a variett of filing implicatiuons and requires a minimum of one year with that employer to qualify. Not knowing that I can't say if he could/should have filed. But the reason on his dismissal slip is all the reason necessary to qualify for an ADA issue.
Bob
he was at that job for two years so he more than qualifies for fmli. as for the lawsuit, we just gonna have to wait and see what those codes mean. not knowing what they mean just leads everybody to zoom in onto the "disabled vet" part. not saying the employer is right, but just wondering what those 2 codes mean. I am just curious about that. but to be honest after seeing all the info I really think they let him go because he was taking time away from work. that isnt right, but he will more than make up with it with the lawsuit due to his boss's mistake. I hope everything goes his way.
semp
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It's hilarious how much you bash on the U.S., be happy your first language isn't German... :)
Be thankful your first language isn't French.
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When I was being re-activated to the corps due to 1st gulf war, my employer said he didn't have to hold my job due to the unknown length of time it would be before I got back. After I got back I was told I was let go due to absenteeism from the job. When I presented all my paperwork to the unemployment department, the guy I was working for subsequently lost his business.
I can feel the pain this guy feels and I hope he gets everything he deserves.
LawnDart
i thought it was illegal for anyone to fire/lay off an employee due to military service? if it isn't, it should be.
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i thought it was illegal for anyone to fire/lay off an employee due to military service? if it isn't, it should be.
I think the law says you dont have to hold the job but you must give another job of comparable pay but it's only if there are so many employees in your company.
semp
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that sounds kinda vague. it should be illegal. someone hired to replace you whilst you're deployed, should only be allowed to be hired on a temporary basis, with full knowledge that you've got your job back when you return from deployment.
me personally........you're fighting to let me be allowed to own a business? you're dam straight you've got your job back when you come home.
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I would think that the ADA would cover that.
shamus
If you knew how ADA laws are enforced, it's in the pipes and doing its thing so to say. (if you own a buisness, make sure your'e pretty compliant (employees and customers if "retail") before one of these guys fresh outa college shows up with a tape measure or someone drops a lawsuit on you for slipping on an alley cat's furball on your property).
Odd is the publicity in this case, ADA lawyers or the like are quite adapt/expereinced/proficient at squeezing pennies, without any hype, at least a couple times a week. And you gotta know what releasing the media hounds will do to this guy's life and buisness in this case (which he would probabley already stand loosing if he was as neive as he sounds).
Two sides and the truth.
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I find the general disrespect towards Vets and military people in this country to be disgusting.
Don't take it personally, its not hate for vets its love of money that drives most of this kind of behavior of employers...
Doesn't make it right... but its pure greed.
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that sounds kinda vague. it should be illegal. someone hired to replace you whilst you're deployed, should only be allowed to be hired on a temporary basis, with full knowledge that you've got your job back when you return from deployment.
me personally........you're fighting to let me be allowed to own a business? you're dam straight you've got your job back when you come home.
I have a card that I have carried since I hit my reserve unit after being moved off of AD. It has never been taken out of my wallet until now (so I can show you some pictures :P).
The front (just explains who they are)
(http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx147/MarineUS/IMAG1119.jpg)
The back (Most of this applies to personnel who are AD and have second jobs as well and those who were deployed and injured/wounded).
(http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx147/MarineUS/IMAG1120.jpg)
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I have a card that I have carried since I hit my reserve unit after being moved off of AD. It has never been taken out of my wallet until now (so I can show you some pictures :P).
The front (just explains who they are)
(http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx147/MarineUS/IMAG1119.jpg)
The back (Most of this applies to personnel who are AD and have second jobs as well and those who were deployed and injured/wounded).
(http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx147/MarineUS/IMAG1120.jpg)
i hadn't seen those before.
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i hadn't seen those before.
Yeah, when I got one was the first (and still only time) I've seen one. I didn't realize how crappy it looked. :lol
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Yeah, when I got one was the first (and still only time) I've seen one. I didn't realize how crappy it looked. :lol
well, either way......i discount military. they're why i can freely own my business. if i had one in my employ, and he left due to deployment.......that job is his as long as he wants it. whoever i would hire to take his place would be hired knowing full well that their position is temporary.