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here is my list and understanding of AH terminology....with my thoughts about each one....add yours or ones I have missed.....
Pick* killing an nme while they are trying to kill a con....(the con they are trying to kill does not have to be on your side...IE you could be Bish and "Pick" a rook of the 6 of a knight. (nothing wrong with using the Pick)
Vulch* shooting an nme down while he is taking off or landing....(I do not like vulchers or vulching)
Bounce* attacking an nme from an Altitude advantage.....
Gang bang* attacking a lone con with 4 or more guys...or attacking 2 cons with 7 or more guys......ECT ECT
BnZ* Boom and Zoom....attacking an nme while he is slow or you have a large speed advantage and you keep up your speed and make fast slashing attacks......(a good BnZer will never go more then 2.5 or even closer, from the con he is attacking...will use the vertical to great affect....(nothing wrong with this until you become a HOTard)
TnB* Turn and burn.....A stick that uses a planes turning ability....probably not smart in the real world....but seeings how this is a game...its quit fun
knife fighting* the ability to switch up fighting between BnZ and TnB at will.....although a knife fight is usually done at High speed
HO* Head on....attacking an nme while you are in his gun solution....(sometimes this is the best attack..IE 110 vs Zero)
HO Tard*...someone who does not use ACM to avoid the nme's gun solution and just comes barreling in firing away....sometimes they are not firing while they are in the nme's gun solution...the key here is they use NO ACM...lots of BnZers fall into this category(not all though)
Fun Police* Wartard players who dont like furballertards so they drop the hangers at a good fight
Ack Fighter* someone who tries to pick...bounce...... gangbang.......HOTARD........ soon as he loses advantage he instantly hits the deck and runs to his field so his field ack will do his fighting.....usually wont come back out of ACK until a few of his friends show up.
200 warrior* someone who talks smack on 200 but is quite a disappointment in an actual fight.
BBS warrior* someone who talks smack on the BBS but is quite a disappointment in an actual fight.
War Guy* someone who has little or no interest in fighting or engaging in Arial Combat...his sole purpose is to capture fields and win the "war" this only becomes a negative when he steps into the realm of "fun police"
Furballer * he is not really interested in the "war" but may help with a base take...and/or...Vulch while doing so....he don't like a off sided fight......but wont leave if his side becomes a Gangbang.....he will most likely do any of the above...but may due to his own Honor abstain from certain ones.
Fighter * ....he wants to fight all comers..he will not run even if 10 cons are attacking him....but you will never see him among the 10 on a con.........he wants to be the very best at what he does.......he engages the nme as long as he still has guns...he will use some or all of the standard ACM/BFM to win his engagements.....he tries to win and fights like mad every sortie....EXCEPT he will not stoop down and use certain "styles" IE HOTard...ACK fighter...Vulch.....Although he will use BnZ.......TnB....knife fighting........and push his plane whatever it may be....beyond its limits.
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Very accurate...I Want to be a fighter....just need the skill.
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I hope others chime in with various past iterations of definitions applicable to our lil niche of ww2 ACM.
There have been some awesome definitions and classifications throughout the years.
About time to to get a current "usage" one.
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I figured Pick was "Cherry Pick" and while the main target is someone who is already engaged, the overall meaning is picking out the easiest target... i.e., on climbout (not really a vulch, but lamer than a bounce), the guy with zero E left after a fight, ignoring 8 challenging cons to butthump the smoking C205, etc...
<--- Proud 200/BBS WARRIOR!!!! Hehehehe
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Very accurate...I Want to be a fighter....just need the skill.
Copper, getting our clocks cleaned by RB repeatedly was a good time, anytime you want to go at it let me know (I am sure you outpace me!)
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I figured Pick was "Cherry Pick" and while the main target is someone who is already engaged, the overall meaning is picking out the easiest target... i.e., on climbout (not really a vulch, but lamer than a bounce), the guy with zero E left after a fight, ignoring 8 challenging cons to butthump the smoking C205, etc...
<--- Proud 200/BBS WARRIOR!!!! Hehehehe
Cherry Pick refers to picking a noob...he is "cherry"....
but that is one I missed :aok
Very accurate...I Want to be a fighter....just need the skill.
after being a fighter exclusively for 7 years you would think I could shoot good.....nope I suk bad....cant figure it out....
and thats something Shane touched base on in that other thread....AIM is crucial to a fight.....
being a "fighter" is more about attitude and Honor than "skill" though.
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Cherry Pick refers to picking a noob...he is "cherry"....
see... to me Cherry Pick has meant, "flying around the furball, picking off the slow hanging planes otherwise engaged or unable to counter defensively."
Just dangling like a ripe cherry waiting to be picked. Cherry Pick(er)
Whacking noobs has been "seal clubbing" because they're so clueless - doesn't matter how you got them.
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see... to me Cherry Pick has meant, "flying around the furball, picking off the slow hanging planes otherwise engaged or unable to counter defensively."
Just dangling like a ripe cherry waiting to be picked. Cherry Pick(er)
Whacking noobs has been "seal clubbing" because they're so clueless - doesn't matter how you got them.
I always equated "Cherry" with being new.... :headscratch:
what you describe I would think just falls into the "Bnz-picker" category :D
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see... to me Cherry Pick has meant, "flying around the furball, picking off the slow hanging planes otherwise engaged or unable to counter defensively."
Just dangling like a ripe cherry waiting to be picked. Cherry Pick(er)
Whacking noobs has been "seal clubbing" because they're so clueless - doesn't matter how you got them.
:aok
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Very accurate...I Want to be a fighter....just need the skill.
You got the willing... skills will come very soon! :old:
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I always equated "Cherry" with being new.... :headscratch:
what you describe I would think just falls into the "Bnz-picker" category :D
that's your interest in classic cars comng thru...
your defintiion of BNZ picker would be one of the sub-definition so of a cherry pick, altho' by nature most cherry picks, and picks in general, are performed at high speeds.
For example, let's say you were running... errr, dragging someone(s) on your six, and I wandered by from above and dove down to clear you. That would be a pick (actually it'd be a drag-n-bag, which is a subset of "picks") if they didn't see me, but it wouldn't be a cherry pick, even if the guy(s) who died were total noobs.
Ugh getting complicated, lol.
but basically Pick = nailing someone who was either unaware, or unable to counter.
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bomb**** : someone who in a gv battle is unable to get off the main lines and make a kill so he ups a set of bombers to take out the guy(s) who kept killing him.
Spawn Camper: a bomb****s favorite target.
Golden bb : when engaged in a fight you only hear one ping then you are in the tower, while on the shooters side it is known as awesomeness.
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see... to me Cherry Pick has meant, "flying around the furball, picking off the slow hanging planes otherwise engaged or unable to counter defensively."
Just dangling like a ripe cherry waiting to be picked. Cherry Pick(er)
Whacking noobs has been "seal clubbing" because they're so clueless - doesn't matter how you got them.
I always equated "Cherry" with being new.... :headscratch:
what you describe I would think just falls into the "Bnz-picker" category :D
Shane is right, over the years "cherry pick" has been shortened to "pick".
ack-ack
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I understand it as Shane explains it. A "cherry pick" is picking the ripe cherry just hanging there, and whacking noobs is "clubbing baby seals". I've always felt that "pick" was just a shortened version for cherry pick so they should mean the same thing.
Here's one to add "auger": To spin into the ground like an auger.
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Golden bb : when engaged in a fight you only hear one ping then you are in the tower, while on the shooters side it is known as awesomeness.
Golden BB to me has meant while your spinning down in flaming parts, you hold teh trigger down and by luck you manage to kill or otherwise disable the guy (or one of the guys) who just tore you up.
A death sprial spray and pray that produced an unexpected and hilarious result.
But again, it's about *current* usage, so.... :bolt:
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that's your interest in classic cars comng thru...
your defintiion of BNZ picker would be one of the sub-definition so of a cherry pick, altho' by nature most cherry picks, and picks in general, are performed at high speeds.
For example, let's say you were running... errr, dragging someone(s) on your six, and I wandered by from above and dove down to clear you. That would be a pick (actually it'd be a drag-n-bag, which is a subset of "picks") if they didn't see me, but it wouldn't be a cherry pick, even if the guy(s) who died were total noobs.
Ugh getting complicated, lol.
but basically Pick = nailing someone who was either unaware, or unable to counter.
could be...but I think more from the Vietnam war.....not that I was there...but thats what new guys were called "Cherry"
I guess I just always assumed that was the case here... :rofl
as far as pick= pick IE Kill :D someone off someone while they are engaged with a con.
that is the "act" drag and bag is a "technique" used.
it can get complicated :rofl
Shane is right, over the years "cherry pick" has been shortened to "pick".
ack-ack
Ya I explain why I agree to Shane :aok
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Golden BB to me has meant while your spinning down in flaming parts, you hold teh trigger down and by luck you manage to kill or otherwise disable the guy (or one of the guys) who just tore you up.
A death sprial spray and pray that produced an unexpected and hilarious result.
But again, it's about *current* usage, so.... :bolt:
:rofl :rofl
I have done that...once :rofl :rofl :rofl
it is Hilarious :aok
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I understand it as Shane explains it. A "cherry pick" is picking the ripe cherry just hanging there, and whacking noobs is "clubbing baby seals". I've always felt that "pick" was just a shortened version for cherry pick so they should mean the same thing.
Here's one to add "auger": To spin into the ground like an auger.
bear in mind a drag-n-bag can also be a pick in a sense when the pursuer was unaware of his impending death. If he was aware that help was coming then it's not quite a pick even tho' it was still a drag-n-bag. So to me a "cherry" pick has always been the specific example of the furball and in general referred to a plane that was barely moving relative to the attacker - just literally hanging there with no recourse.
Picks can occur away from a furball and may or may not have another name. For example, if I lurked near a base catching people low and slow (and hopefully unawares) those are picks... they could also be called "air vulching" depending on how close you were to the base.
I know several "dictionaries" have been produced over the years with many commonalities between competing games.
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:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh What about " Nekked " ? :banana: :banana: :neener: :neener: :banana: :banana: :x :x :banana: :banana: :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Chuwie and the alchemists fall under war guy and fun police but that's just my opinion
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:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh What about " Nekked " ? :banana: :banana: :neener: :neener: :banana: :banana: :x :x :banana: :banana: :rofl :rofl :rofl
you're just the latest incarnation, so *you're* the current definition. :old:
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bear in mind a drag-n-bag can also be a pick in a sense when the pursuer was unaware of his impending death. If he was aware that help was coming then it's not quite a pick even tho' it was still a drag-n-bag. So to me a "cherry" pick has always been the specific example of the furball and in general referred to a plane that was barely moving relative to the attacker - just literally hanging there with no recourse.
Picks can occur away from a furball and may or may not have another name. For example, if I lurked near a base catching people low and slow (and hopefully unawares) those are picks... they could also be called "air vulching" depending on how close you were to the base.
I know several "dictionaries" have been produced over the years with many commonalities between competing games.
cc that...I am glad I see it right now....I hate passin on bad info...... :o
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:huh :huh :huh :aok :aok :aok OK ! Thnx :aok :aok :aok :banana: :banana: :neener: :neener: :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
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Gang bang* attacking a lone con with 4 or more guys...
Three or more.
Sign of the times, I guess.
- oldman
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HO Tard*....sometimes they are not firing while they are in the nme's gun solution...the key here is they use NO ACM...
Taking away any flight path offset (denying turning room) from an angles fighter going for a HO shot is a legitimate defensive maneuver. Shouldn't be construed as an HO Tard.
In the Doright dictionary where a player falls in the specturm of HO Tard-iness is determined by the their ability to use a superior angles fighter (or sometimes just an E advantage) to maneuver for a tracking gun solution vs just point at the icon and shoot irrespective of angles or future ACM considerations.
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AltFairy - Fighter looking over the aerial battlefield at such a high altitude as to require O2 in his computer room. He does this to determine which "pick" will be made first. Some never come down...ever.
Asstronaut - See Altfairy
pwned - See Altfairy that decides to come down and misses his pick
Shade - when a player has an account with a different username other than the one that he plays with normally.
privs - any privileges that HTC can remove at will. Text buffer, VOX, BBS access, pink spits, pink underwear for 51 drivers, rainbow stickers for LA7s, Golds Gym stickers for KI84, K4, and Spit 1 drivers
Johnny Football - Person personally responsible for the total demolition of the University of Oklahoma Football program for the next 8 years. Also, he beat the hell out of Bob and Mike Stoops and never actually touched them (see noobs and pwned)
uber - overused term to describe players body-parts-wish-list. None are uber but many claim it. Also used to describe turdburgler aircraft that no one in their right mind would ever want to fly (See the entire German Luftwaffe)
Canyon Fighting - When a group of prideless wannabes decend on the DA and pick one of the canyon areas to fight amongst themselves. Generally performed at or close to the river that runs through the canyon unless specific players have on panties, AKPepprr notwithstanding because she has steel nads as demonstrated last night. :D :rock ( you only wish that woman was in your squad)
Windowlickingshortbus rider - A term used lately to describe anyone that interrupts a good fight, as defined by the two participants, AND MISSES. Commonly referred to as a "tard", "tardlett", "freakin goober", "lmao!", "FOOL", "STEEERIKE ONE"
Think that covers it
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Hand holders: Players that require the emotional support of a second (or a whole bunch more) player(s) to deal with a single low and slow con in a comparably obsolete plane. These players often prefer the P-51D and will run to their friends the moment total advantage in the fight is no longer guaranteed. Often times, the hand holders simply run the enemy player out of gas.
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Copper, getting our clocks cleaned by RB repeatedly was a good time, anytime you want to go at it let me know (I am sure you outpace me!)
Getting whooped up on by RB is a way of life for me, he's always up for a fight, and doesn't mind killing me for hours :)
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"owned"- when a con with all the advantages gets killed by the plane he attacked. If the plane getting attacked can only pull a Headon shot to kill the attacker, he can't claim ownage! :aok
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Has anyone said Vtard?
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:rofl :rofl
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:rofl :rofl
I have done that...once :rofl :rofl :rofl
it is Hilarious :aok
After watching Joach1m's video where he drills that (I believe) P-47 in the face during a spin, I am on my guard when I send someone spiraling down... I have had some close calls especially with A-20s and Me-410s... they are like bullet hoses.
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Ink,
Cool post. I like your definition of "Fighter". :aok
Pudknocker = someone who sets their type to "Attack" for n sorties after entering top 100 "Fighter" score. As I said in an earlier post, it would be very interesting is someone won the high score (or even were a top scoring pilot) who was not a Pudknocker.
This is all about score preservation and maybe in some cases flying very carefully (not engaging unless overwhelming odds in you favor etc.).
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After watching Joach1m's video where he drills that (I believe) P-47 in the face during a spin, I am on my guard when I send someone spiraling down... I have had some close calls especially with A-20s and Me-410s... they are like bullet hoses.
when I was noob I was fling the N1k...squeezed the trigger as I was floating down....and killed the guy who just shot me apart....it was one of the funniest things and luckiest I have ever seen here. :D
Ink,
Cool post. I like your definition of "Fighter". :aok
Pudknocker = someone who sets their type to "Attack" for n sorties after entering top 100 "Fighter" score. As I said in an earlier post, it would be very interesting is someone won the high score (or even were a top scoring pilot) who was not a Pudknocker.
This is all about score preservation and maybe in some cases flying very carefully (not engaging unless overwhelming odds in you favor etc.).
:D
"pudknocker" is great :aok
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:) This is a great thread. It's funny to read through all the terms that have been made up/used & evolved through out the years. :aok
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Good Pony Pilot: One who slows down enough to get out-turned/accelerated/gunned by almost every other plane in the set
No-Talent-Assclown: Pony pilot who stays fast and is flying within D10k of any other Pony (and is therefore his wingman)
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Good Pony Pilot: One who slows down enough to get out-turned/accelerated/gunned by almost every other plane in the set
No-Talent-Assclown: Pony pilot who stays fast and is flying within D10k of any other Pony (and is therefore his wingman)
we should just call that...."P-chalenged"
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we should just call that...."P-chalenged"
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I dunno what is more obnoxious, the guys that make one 550KIAS pass and haul it for home spraying all the way, or the cacophony of pissing and moaning anytime a delta shows up to a fight (and fights)... they are the most lopsided ENY plane in the set (when light) and are therefore delicious. What I really love is when K4 or Dora pilots cry about Ponies showing up. Maybe it's because they are easier to evade in an La-5, but I just don't have a whole lot of problems weathering the soon-to-be-passing storm... and if they get slow, YAY PERKS.
Although it's much more fun shooting down Spixteens (imho). Something about how the wings come off.
What aboot:
LGay/LaLa - La7 and/or its driver. Usually upped in the same manner a bomb****er does, after gettings ones lunch money taken to chase down anything and everything. Thankfully its insane engine allows it to close within D37 yards where even a cracked out spider monkey can get hits with the B-20s!
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I dunno what is more obnoxious, the guys that make one 550KIAS pass and haul it for home spraying all the way, or the cacophony of pissing and moaning anytime a delta shows up to a fight (and fights)... they are the most lopsided ENY plane in the set (when light) and are therefore delicious. What I really love is when K4 or Dora pilots cry about Ponies showing up. Maybe it's because they are easier to evade in an La-5, but I just don't have a whole lot of problems weathering the soon-to-be-passing storm... and if they get slow, YAY PERKS.
Although it's much more fun shooting down Spixteens (imho). Something about how the wings come off.
What aboot:
LGay/LaLa - La7 and/or its driver. Usually upped in the same manner a bomb****er does, after gettings ones lunch money taken to chase down anything and everything. Thankfully its insane engine allows it to close within D37 yards where even a cracked out spider monkey can get hits with the B-20s!
I try to avoid stuff like "LAbweeb" "ponytard" ECT ECT
for the fact that it is not the plane that is doing the tardly stuff but the stick....
I see the planes as tools....nothing more......
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I try to avoid stuff like "LAbweeb" "ponytard" ECT ECT
for the fact that it is not the plane that is doing the tardly stuff but the stick....
I see the planes as tools....nothing more......
La7's are DEFINITELY tools :cheers:
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La7's are DEFINITELY tools :cheers:
:rofl :neener:
thats not what I meant :rofl
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You forgot hack and spy...... :noid
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You forgot hack and spy...... :noid
:rofl
I don't believe in "hacks" nor do I care about spies
but you can add them :D
but needs a catchy name :aok
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"owned"- when a con with all the advantages gets killed by the plane he attacked. If the plane getting attacked can only pull a Headon shot to kill the attacker, he can't claim ownage! :aok
Yes he can... it's easy to avoid HOs unless you are really slow speed... and then you were still pwned by being led to said very slow speed. Not that I have HOed you guns on guns yet, but just saying... someone HO'ed that didn't avoid it can be claimed as owned/pwned, imho. :ahand
JunkyII knows of a real toe curler of a HO I pwned him with one evening. He complimented me on it immediately afterwards and said wow, he hadn't been HO'ed like that in years... ergo he's instantly towerred, I'm undamaged, and I therefore claim pwnage. :D
I understand we may have a difference of opinion here, and am just providing mine. :old:
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Yes he can...
Pont 1. No, one can't claim ownage if all they can do is attain a headon shot... they haven't "owned" the attacker, they just brought it back to even ground.
Not that I have HOed you guns on guns yet, but just saying...
Point 2. Yes, you HO'd at me on the first pass that day when shuff was orbiting, and I avoided it... Then went vert, I followed you, had to dodge a pass by Shuff on the way up, and you came over the top and HO'd me again, you can lie about it all day long, it is what it is, but it doesn't matter one way or the other as you are not worthy, you have an agenda that doesn't include truly testing our skills against one another... you're just a skilless troll. You started with alt, in a better turning plane, and 2 vs 1 with both you and your friendly attacking me at the same time, and all you could muster was HO first pass, HO second pass... epic, retarded, fail~!
someone HO'ed that didn't avoid it can be claimed as owned/pwned, imho. :ahand
Point 3. Again, until you understand what "owning" means, and usually that only comes by doing it, then you will stay clueless, as evidenced by this statement.
knows of a real toe curler of a HO I pwned him with one evening. He complimented me on it immediately afterwards and said wow, he hadn't been HO'ed like that in years... ergo he's instantly towerred, I'm undamaged, and I therefore claim pwnage. :D
*see point 3.
I understand we may have a difference of understanding here, and am just proving my lack of it. :old:
no point here, I just fixed it for you. :aok
PS. funny how you stated the situations where a HO cannot be claimed as ownage, but didn't say anything about the only time a HO can be claimed as ownage, and that is when the one being attacked is 1 vs 3 or more, and brings one of the 3 down with a HO, then ownage can be claimed, at no other time can a HO be claimed as ownage... and in your case it would be all you know to do(go for HO) so you have a shot at claiming ownage, u just need to fight 1 vs multiples more often!
This tells me 2 things, one- you are very defensive about your beloved HO as it is very dear to you(most likely because its all you got to depend on when up against a caliber opponent), and 2- you don't have alot of experience in 1 vs multiples(hence the fact it doesn't enter your mind when talking about HO situations... seems to be spot on! :aok
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Pont 1. No, one can't claim ownage if all they can do is attain a headon shot... they haven't "owned" the attacker, they just brought it back to even ground.
Point 2. Yes, you HO'd at me on the first pass that day when shuff was orbiting, and I avoided it... Then went vert, I followed you, had to dodge a pass by Shuff on the way up, and you came over the top and HO'd me again, you can lie about it all day long, it is what it is, but it doesn't matter one way or the other as you are not worthy, you have an agenda that doesn't include truly testing our skills against one another... you're just a skilless troll. You started with alt, in a better turning plane, and 2 vs 1 with both you and your friendly attacking me at the same time, and all you could muster was HO first pass, HO second pass... epic, retarded, fail~!
Point 3. Again, until you understand what "owning" means, and usually that only comes by doing it, then you will stay clueless, as evidenced by this statement.
*see point 3.
no point here, I just fixed it for you. :aok
Like I said, we disagree. No problem, I've said my view on it. :aok
As far as me HOing you, I know you had no guns on me. I was especially careful to make sure you didn't since I knew it was you. Feel free to post film or pics proving otherwise. :) I even watched my film to double check that night and you had no gun solution when I fired, no question about it on film. If I still had that film I would post it with your permission, but I've already deleted it. Unless you or Shuffler have the film, showing me pulling the trigger when you had guns on me, we'll just have to agree to disagree and put it behind us. :salute
Not everyone's definition of pwning is necessarily the same. :old:
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I'd like to point out that pwnage doesn't have to originate from an energy deficit. Co-E states still provides the opportunity for pwnage. I have been on the receiving end of Co-E pwnage enough to know.
Thank you.
:salute
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Pont 1. No, one can't claim ownage if all they can do is attain a headon shot... they haven't "owned" the attacker, they just brought it back to even ground.
Point 2. Yes, you HO'd at me on the first pass that day when shuff was orbiting, and I avoided it... Then went vert, I followed you, had to dodge a pass by Shuff on the way up, and you came over the top and HO'd me again, you can lie about it all day long, it is what it is, but it doesn't matter one way or the other as you are not worthy, you have an agenda that doesn't include truly testing our skills against one another... you're just a skilless troll. You started with alt, in a better turning plane, and 2 vs 1 with both you and your friendly attacking me at the same time, and all you could muster was HO first pass, HO second pass... epic, retarded, fail~!
Point 3. Again, until you understand what "owning" means, and usually that only comes by doing it, then you will stay clueless, as evidenced by this statement.
*see point 3.
no point here, I just fixed it for you. :aok
PS. funny how you stated the situations where a HO cannot be claimed as ownage, but didn't say anything about the only time a HO can be claimed as ownage, and that is when the one being attacked is 1 vs 3 or more, and brings one of the 3 down with a HO, then ownage can be claimed, at no other time can a HO be claimed as ownage... and in your case it would be all you know to do(go for HO) so you have a shot at claiming ownage, u just need to fight 1 vs multiples more often!
This tells me 2 things, one- you are very defensive about your beloved HO as it is very dear to you(most likely because its all you got to depend on when up against a caliber opponent), and 2- you don't have alot of experience in 1 vs multiples(hence the fact it doesn't enter your mind when talking about HO situations... seems to be spot on! :aok
You might as well be talking to a brick wall (they listen better and have greater ACM, as well)
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Like I said, we disagree. No problem, I've said my view on it. :aok
As far as me HOing you, I know you had no guns on me. I was especially careful to make sure you didn't since I knew it was you. Feel free to post film or pics proving otherwise. :) I even watched my film to double check that night and you had no gun solution when I fired, no question about it on film. If I still had that film I would post it with your permission, but I've already deleted it. Unless you or Shuffler have the film, showing me pulling the trigger when you had guns on me, we'll just have to agree to disagree and put it behind us. :salute
Not everyone's definition of pwning is necessarily the same. :old:
Who, you act like a noob stick and brag when ever you get a ho or get guns on someone in a furball,not to many post ago you said how clueless you are at being a real good stick ,and trust me you still are.Shut up for a few months and fly would ya.And get out of that spit for a while or you will ALWAYS be a noob.
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Who, you act like a noob stick and brag when ever you get a ho or get guns on someone in a furball,not to many post ago you said how clueless you are at being a real good stick ,and trust me you still are.Shut up for a few months and fly would ya.And get out of that spit for a while or you will ALWAYS be a noob.
Ink, you can add the above as a practical example to the definition of pwned :aok
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Not everyone's definition of pwning is necessarily the same. :old:
You can't rewrite the dictionary just because you can't spell gewd.
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Has anyone said troll yet? ... :D
...oh, and thanks Changeup but no "nads" here... :aok
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I'd like to point out that pwnage doesn't have to originate from an energy deficit. Co-E states still provides the opportunity for pwnage. I have been on the receiving end of Co-E pwnage enough to know.
Thank you.
:salute
Indeed. Me too. :frown:
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Let us not forget the egg and bailer. As soon as they drop their eggs, they bail or pull the plug depriving the nme on their six some kills. Seeing a bit more of this in the MA. What gives?
one-eye
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Ink, you can add the above as a practical example to the definition of pwned :aok
:rofl :rofl
Let us not forget the egg and bailer. As soon as they drop their eggs, they bail or pull the plug depriving the nme on their six some kills. Seeing a bit more of this in the MA. What gives?
one-eye
not a bomber guy..but didn't I read you must be in plane for the bombs to work?
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I think as long as they don't get into another plane before they drop they are good? I think that's the case with troops dropped from a C47 or M3 then being shot down before troops make it into the maproom. Or they wait till they drop then bail after the bombs hit.
There are many things I don't understand about this game. The most perplexing one is the lack of will to fight in a combat simulator. Not banging on running from a mob (which I'm generally too stupid to do) but the "one pass and run", the "one pass strafe and run" following a dive from 20k into 3k enemies and the "bomb and bail" stuff is curious.
I guess bombing and bailing gives em a quicker turn-a-round back to target?
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The most perplexing one is the lack of will to fight in a combat simulator. Not banging on running from a mob (which I'm generally too stupid to do) but the "one pass and run", the "one pass strafe and run" following a dive from 20k into 3k enemies and the "bomb and bail" stuff is curious.
:rock :cheers: :salute
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see... to me Cherry Pick has meant, "flying around the furball, picking off the slow hanging planes otherwise engaged or unable to counter defensively."
Just dangling like a ripe cherry waiting to be picked. Cherry Pick(er)
Whacking noobs has been "seal clubbing" because they're so clueless - doesn't matter how you got them.
I miss reading shane's comments on the open channel lol. Just saying....
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I think as long as they don't get into another plane before they drop they are good? I think that's the case with troops dropped from a C47 or M3 then being shot down before troops make it into the maproom. Or they wait till they drop then bail after the bombs hit.
There are many things I don't understand about this game. The most perplexing one is the lack of will to fight in a combat simulator. Not banging on running from a mob (which I'm generally too stupid to do) but the "one pass and run", the "one pass strafe and run" following a dive from 20k into 3k enemies and the "bomb and bail" stuff is curious.
I guess bombing and bailing gives em a quicker turn-a-round back to target?
I have asked myself that many many times..... :bhead
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I have asked myself that many many times..... :bhead
you might want to parse these:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?topic=156143.0
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=search2
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Like I said, we disagree. No problem, I've said my view on it. :aok
As far as me HOing you, I know you had no guns on me. I was especially careful to make sure you didn't since I knew it was you. Feel free to post film or pics proving otherwise. :) I even watched my film to double check that night and you had no gun solution when I fired, no question about it on film. If I still had that film I would post it with your permission, but I've already deleted it. Unless you or Shuffler have the film, showing me pulling the trigger when you had guns on me, we'll just have to agree to disagree and put it behind us. :salute
You don't get it, and probably never will, again I am wasting time typing to your retarded arse. I've been in this game for roughly a decade, I won't debate whether I had guns on you when you face shot, because it doesnt matter, you went for the HO both passes, Damn sure had guns on you first pass, might not have been able to shoot you on the second, but was incredibly close and would have had I not had to dodge the "second" attacker while following you up, matter of fact, might have shot you in the arse... but like I said its a moot point, you knew it was me, you could have attempted to fight me, you didn't, you went for HO, and came back around as quick as you could to HO again. Never even close to an attempt to saddle me, or get my 6, just retarded HO crap! And immediately went to ch200 and claimed pawnage... good grief lil one, really? I don't care about how you aggrivate people, I'm known for being a smack talking agitator, but I always fight.... I judge you by how you "play" the game and so far you've earned the title retarded HO twit from my judgement.... Now, after you lie yet again about not HOing when you know good and well thats what you went for from the start, you want to "put it behind us" and salute me, well save it, I don't salute bush league HO morons. Grow a pair, and the next time you see me, salute me by actually fighting me.... then we'll consider if you deserve a salute back.... :aok
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You don't get it, and probably never will, again I am wasting time typing to your retarded arse. I've been in this game for roughly a decade, I won't debate whether I had guns on you when you face shot, because it doesnt matter, you went for the HO both passes, Damn sure had guns on you first pass, might not have been able to shoot you on the second, but was incredibly close and would have had I not had to dodge the "second" attacker while following you up, matter of fact, might have shot you in the arse... but like I said its a moot point, you knew it was me, you could have attempted to fight me, you didn't, you went for HO, and came back around as quick as you could to HO again. Never even close to an attempt to saddle me, or get my 6, just retarded HO crap! And immediately went to ch200 and claimed pawnage... good grief lil one, really? I don't care about how you aggrivate people, I'm known for being a smack talking agitator, but I always fight.... I judge you by how you "play" the game and so far you've earned the title retarded HO twit from my judgement.... Now, after you lie yet again about not HOing when you know good and well thats what you went for from the start, you want to "put it behind us" and salute me, well save it, I don't salute bush league HO morons. Grow a pair, and the next time you see me, salute me by actually fighting me.... then we'll consider if you deserve a salute back.... :aok
It's too late... I've already saluted you. No need to salute back. Wasn't expecting it. :)
Now, I think it's all settled and we can put our agreement to disagree behind us. :old:
Please continue with the topic at hand. :old:
Thank you. :old:
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Midway you do HO quiet a bit my friend just lay off of it for a little while
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Midway you do HO quiet a bit my friend just lay off of it for a little while
Yes, Sir. :frown: :salute
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Erick has spooken.
Gv ground vehical
Noob somebody you tryed to kill. But he got on your six and he killed you. In the after math you got mad and started calling him a noob. I do this alot. : p
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knife fighting* the ability to switch up fighting between BnZ and TnB at will.....although a knife fight is usually done at High speed
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Now I'd certainly fall closer to the pudding head (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pudding+head) end of the bell curve comparing knowledge on terminology but I thought a knife fight was a close in turnfight.
After all, to use a knife you have to be close to your victim, don't you?
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Now I'd certainly fall closer to the pudding head (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pudding+head) end of the bell curve comparing knowledge on terminology but I thought a knife fight was a close in turnfight.
After all, to use a knife you have to be close to your victim, don't you?
I certainly could be wrong.....ive been doing this since 04..........I see you have far more time in..... :headscratch:
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I certainly could be wrong.....ive been doing this since 04..........I see you have far more time in..... :headscratch:
Mtnman explained fighting like in a knife fight letting your opponent get almost close enough to cut you and throwing himself off setting him up for the kill move.
That was always knife fight to me.
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I had thought what INK refers to as a 'knife fight' to be the style of 'energy fighting'
and a 'knife fight' to be a close up stall fight
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I had thought what INK refers to as a 'knife fight' to be the style of 'energy fighting'
and a 'knife fight' to be a close up stall fight
BnZ and TnB are both energy fighting.....
I always thought Knife fighting meant being able to go from BnZ to TnB at any point...... but at hi speeds....phone booth fighting...at high speed...
thats what I get for learning on my own ...and never asking questions as a noob :rofl
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From the AH Training Corps page - TequilaChaser's excellent explanation of the principles of energy fighting
The E Fighting style (energy fighting), is often confused with the BnZ fighting style (boom & zoom fighting), when in actuality that couldn’t be more further from the truth. Yes BnZ is part of E fighting but that is about as far as it goes. The Energy fighter is the purist of the combat fighter pilots, one who has attained the skills of the boom & zoom fighting style and has combined them with the skills of the turn & burn fighting style (stall fighting). He is aggressively offensive by nature yet maintains the patience needed to quarrel his victim until the most opportune time.
To Energy fight you must think both offensive (attacker) mode and defensive (defender) modes at the same time. You must never enter an engagement with less energy, whether your advantage is in altitude, speed, or both. This doesn’t necessarily mean you must always have the alt advantage by no means. One can still have a greater E advantage and still be the lower opponent of the two. For this to work though you must have the ability to tell upon a glance that you are in the catbird’s seat though. SA (situational awareness) plays a big role here.
The E Fighting pilot has taken into account every aspect of the fight offered to him, he has studied his plane in and out and knows his plane’s limitations from one end of the flight envelope all the way to the other (from blackout to stall). He has studied each and every type of fighter he might come up against and has learned the advantages and weakness of each, according to how they compare with the plane he is flying, so he knows upfront what he can and can not do depending on which plane he engages. The E fighter pilot will use his advantages and make his opponent fly to his opponent’s own weaknesses, not letting his opponent use the advantages of his opponent’s plane.
Working the process of E fighting means to use low G pulling maneuvers and banking your energy (converting speed to alt) until you bleed your opponent of his energy. At this time you carefully use your SA skills in watching his plane and the way it acts in relation to you and the maneuvers you exercise against him. At times the energy Fighter will be able to use Higher G maneuvers when he is sure he is out of the way of danger and has a substantial energy advantage to do so, most times these High G maneuvers will be in the vertical or near vertical plane of flight, to acquire and store more E to cash in on when needed. As the E fighter bleeds his victim down to a wobbling chunk of metal in the sky he is also scanning the skies of Aces High to keep a look out for any incoming threats. Incase there is, he has that saved up E to evade, extend and setup again, but if the skies appear clear he then uses his E advantage and pounces his prey. He has bled him to where the prey can not evade his onslaught of attacks now and the E fighter has scored another pelt, all by using patience, SA, and aggressiveness.
The Energy fighter does not give in to the opponent whether the opponent is a BnZ type or a Turn n Burn type, no sir. He makes the Boom and Zoomer bleed his E to where the BnZer weakens and then turns the tables to acquire the E advantage, He hides his energy well and gives the BnZer a false presentation making the BnZer think he has the advantage when he doesn’t, it is often too late for the BnZer once he realizes the tables have turned against him.
As for the Turn and Burn fighter pile-it, The E fighter will act as if he is going to turn with his victim, yet he does not commit to the full extent, he uses oblique turns and out of plane maneuvers to bleed the TnBer until he knows he has the substantial Energy advantage then he suckers the TnBer into thinking he can attain a guns solution and leaves him wollering nose high when he turns the tables and attacks.
Fear the Skilled Energy Fighter Pilots ( E Fighters ) they know their stuff and are prone to take you to school!
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From the AH Training Corps page - TequilaChaser's excellent explanation of the principles of energy fighting
good read..thanx for posting :aok
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I'd pretty much be the definition of an energy fighter... well, until *I* run out of e that is... :huh
But I do enjoy tnb-ing the lala with a variety of opponents...
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*Pork: To deny the use of specific base facilities by their expeditious removal: "Go pork the ords at A74" - in this usage, porking is only done to support an attack on another installation
Pork is also erroneously used to describe any destruction of facilities "STOP PORKING THE BASE!" <- said to countrymen who insist on dismantling every standing object while waiting for troops in order to pad their score regardless of availability to their own country once the base is taken.
*Eggs (Archaic): Bombs (at least since Airwarrior)
*Drunks (Archaic): Another word for Troops (at least since Airwarrior)
*Taters: 30mm cannon rounds, presumably because they are approximately the size of potatoes (citation needed)
*Lawndart: An aircraft bound to crash at high speed, generally due to damage or poor smash management.
*Bomb'n'Bail: The act of dropping ones ordnance and then bailing out to immediately up another aircraft. Often used in conjunction with Pork (see above). Intentional Lawndarting (see above) can be used instead of bailing.
*Stick stirring: The art of avoiding taking hits by making erratic movements with ones stick (or attempting to fly a 190F8 at stall speed)
*Dar: Noun: Radar installation - the building housing the radar for a base. Noun: The dot shown inside the Dar-ring (see below) or the Counter/Darbar (see below) showing a presence in the sector.
*Dar-ring: The outlined range of a base or CVs radar. When active, enemy aircraft above a certain altitude will show up as a red dot.
*Darbar: The counter vaguely displaying the relative number of enemy (red) or friendly (green) planes in a given sector
*Goon: C-47
*Bus: C-47 with troops
*Breadcrumbs/party favors: A trail of vehicle supplies pre-dropped between a v-spawn and the target area, allowing vehicles to resupply along the route.
*Smash'n'Grab/Sneak: Taking a base without dropping the hangars, a fast attack knocking out the town/town ack with troops immediately deployed on said town.
*Deuce: ME262
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I must be pretty archaic as I still call them drunks, and eggs. At least since Air Warrior.
Also a lawndart and an auger are two different things. Lawndart is flying straight down into the ground usually at high speed,(normally associated with P-38's, but can be used for any plane) where for it truly to be an auger there must be a rotating motion for the plane to screw itself into the ground. (Normally associated with a stall and spin into the ground.)
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*Darbar: The counter vaguely displaying the relative number of enemy (red) or friendly (green) planes in a given sector
Or in other words: The thing that suddenly jumps from 'almost nothing' to 'full sector' out of nowhere the very moment you run into the 8 P-51 at 15K... :noid
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I must be pretty archaic as I still call them drunks, and eggs. At least since Air Warrior.
Also a lawndart and an auger are two different things. Lawndart is flying straight down into the ground usually at high speed,(normally associated with P-38's, but can be used for any plane) where for it truly to be an auger there must be a rotating motion for the plane to screw itself into the ground. (Normally associated with a stall and spin into the ground.)
I still do too =)
Also, fixed above! Thanks!
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Lancstuka
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281337.0.html
(some backstories on some of them terms I've infected AH with. :devil )
"anklehumpers" - from my end, anyway. Back in the old days there was this ancient game HT played called Air Warrior in which people knew each other as random numbers. That changed and they acquired handles. There was this one lady who played, "subby" whom I had never met nor seen when I arrived during AW3 (Gamestorm). I did however get to "know" of her through others, and one of her smack-downs was "arp! get off my leg!" I just ran a bit further with it and morphed it to anklehumpers, since you all weren't even good/smart/whatever enough to even reach my "leg." Imagine a little chichiquaua... lolz.
"slobberdonkeys" - an online pic showing some donkey-headed guy braying at his monitor with spittle flying. Sounds very descriptive of most of you when I shot you down (and let you know how much you sucked) or you tried to respond to some of my smack. "You" being plural, as often as not.
"castrati" - Came across the term in a book. Looked it up... since I know most people know what castrated means, it might encourage them to look it up and make their own associations (talk about pwnage, heh.)
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"milquetoasts" - go look it up.
"Hordemonkey" - Doing a search on the term first shows it by myself in 2002, lol and the most frequent user. I was using it in-game prior to "castrati."
"Base/Ackbunnies" - kind of self-explanatory, being all huggy and @%!#. Dunno if they've been used much lately.
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My little pet peeve with the lingo in game is referring to bombers as "buffs", especially since "buff" referrs to only one particular bomber, the B-52.
ack-ack
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When I was playing the game(stupid real life!) I was one of the games best fighters , Shooting and fighting skills were unmatched by anyone.. Then the sad day came and I woke up and realized that I was just a gamer that loved the game .. Party on All !! :rock :rock :salute
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When I was playing the game(stupid real life!) I was one of the games best fighters , Shooting and fighting skills were unmatched by anyone.. Then the sad day came and I woke up and realized that I was just a gamer that loved the game .. Party on All !! :rock :rock :salute
(Who is this guy?)^^^^^^^
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(Who is this guy?)^^^^^^^
Its shppr01.
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In case it was missed, one of the oldest.
"cc"
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Flopstar - one who relies on the landtrout maneuver.
Landtrout Maneuver - evasives generally performed by fast rolling planes like the FW, close to the deck being pursued in which they change their roll axis so quickly the fm/internet has difficulty keeping up and it looks like they're flopping around like a fish out of water, albeit in a more or less straight line, making landing hits difficult.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281337.0.html
(some backstories on some of them terms I've infected AH with. :devil )
"anklehumpers" - from my end, anyway. Back in the old days there was this ancient game HT played called Air Warrior in which people knew each other as random numbers. That changed and they acquired handles. There was this one lady who played, "subby" whom I had never met nor seen when I arrived during AW3 (Gamestorm). I did however get to "know" of her through others, and one of her smack-downs was "arp! get off my leg!" I just ran a bit further with it and morphed it to anklehumpers, since you all weren't even good/smart/whatever enough to even reach my "leg." Imagine a little chichiquaua... lolz.
"slobberdonkeys" - an online pic showing some donkey-headed guy braying at his monitor with spittle flying. Sounds very descriptive of most of you when I shot you down (and let you know how much you sucked) or you tried to respond to some of my smack. "You" being plural, as often as not.
"castrati" - Came across the term in a book. Looked it up... since I know most people know what castrated means, it might encourage them to look it up and make their own associations (talk about pwnage, heh.)
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"milquetoasts" - go look it up.
"Hordemonkey" - Doing a search on the term first shows it by myself in 2002, lol and the most frequent user. I was using it in-game prior to "castrati."
"Base/Ackbunnies" - kind of self-explanatory, being all huggy and @%!#. Dunno if they've been used much lately.
"Slobberdonkey" always made me laugh...can't believe I forgot about anklehumper lol. My wife used to come into the computer room and ask me what was so funny...
:rofl :salute
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(Who is this guy?)^^^^^^^
Changeup, You might not know me cause I always saluted those that killed me wether it was fair or naot and I never complained on the bbs about anything. In other words , I was just a player on the 353rd FG roster !!
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Its shppr01.
Exactly... Who? Claims to being the best fighter and shooter are fairly high claims sir. Those usually remembered.
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You apparently can't read too well! I said I was one of the best then I woke up! Meaning that I was one of the worst ingame and still am. Only in my dreams am I a great stick !!! (If you have to explain a joke, it's no longer funny I guess )
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You apparently can't read too well! I said I was one of the best then I woke up! Meaning that I was one of the worst ingame and still am. Only in my dreams am I a great stick !!! (If you have to explain a joke, it's no longer funny I guess )
Ahhh, yes. That's the problem with me answering from my iPhone...its small and I get in a hurry. My bad. :salute
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Ahhh, yes. That's the problem with me answering from my iPhone...its small and I get in a hurry. My bad. :salute
Thats ok .. Actually you have shot me down a bunch of times when I was with the 353rd ! I was also Lonepine ingame as well. Flew with Oaktree and a bunch of regular guys , you as well :salute
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Its cuuuuute how this has all turned out for you two. :D
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Its cuuuuute how this has all turned out for you two. :D
Yes, isn't it? You're not bitter are you? You sound bitter...we hope you're not. :neener:
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Yes, isn't it? You're not bitter are you? You sound bitter...we hope you're not. :neener:
I am sweet not bitter sir!
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I am sweet not bitter sir!
QFT.
<3 Sunka :banana:
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Cool thread <S> .
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QFT.
<3 Sunka :banana:
:cheers:
I just love the love around this place.
:salute