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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Zacherof on April 20, 2013, 10:12:40 AM
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German, Australian, British, or murican
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'Merican.
Why? Because 'MERICA!
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British by a landslide.
Perfect combination of hosts.
Top Gear would work best if they brough english hosts to the various other countries.
Part of the magic is thier interactions with people not from the country of the show's origin.
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What Ice said with a small change, I would just keep the English show and can the rest.
It's already the top or one of the top shows worldwide...why do you need more?
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Ne of the reason I prefer English version is cause they aren't American and have different perspectives on alot of things than americans do.
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I've only seen the U.S. and British shows, between the two it's no contest the British show is far better.
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I've only seen the U.S. and British shows, between the two it's no contest the British show is far better.
Same here, and I agree. Could easily be a factor of public funding versus corporate sponsors. How truly irreverent can you be when you have to keep sponsors happy instead of the public?
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Same here, and I agree. Could easily be a factor of public funding versus corporate sponsors. How truly irreverent can you be when you have to keep sponsors happy instead of the public?
who's sponsered?
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who's sponsered?
Corporate, specifically car, ads on the U.S. version. And a time or two I have seen "brought to you by Ford". You can try to be truly honest and even brutally rude, but you won't keep that money long.
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British Top Gear 100x better, couldn't even watch the full American episode after seeing the British one :lol
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Yep, gotta go with the Merry Ol' on this one.
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Gotta say Brits by far.
My favorite -
http://youtu.be/_bIn_ZgHJaE
:cheers: Oz
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Gotta say Brits by far.
My favorite -
http://youtu.be/_bIn_ZgHJaE
:cheers: Oz
:rofl :aok
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I like the British version. Richard is a great fall guy and he takes whatever they dish out, smiling. :D The humor
always makes me chuckle. One of my favorite episodes was their trek across the Bolivian Andes with European Lorries. It was one part of a test. In the same show, Jeremy drove his Lorry through a brick wall and a brick came through and hit him in the chest. He never said a word, but that's gotta hurt. The final winner was a Volvo......it was like a Timex........"takes a lickin'............"
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That was a good episode haha
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German, Australian, British, or murican
There is no German 'Top Gear' ;)
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British by a long margin, it's not a show format which has copied well to other countries because of the format and it's the British hosts which make it as successful as it is.
Australian version especially, makes you cringe watching it.
<S>...-Gixer
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I've only seen the U.S. and British shows, between the two it's no contest the British show is far better.
Agree 100% British version by a mile :aok
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I prefer the British Version over the U.S Version.
I also prefer Motor Trend's 'Roadkill' series on YouTube over U.S Top Gear.
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There is no German 'Top Gear' ;)
There was a funny one with a german show called d motor? If I recall right they turned up in spitfires :rofl
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There was a funny one with a german show called d motor? If I recall right they turned up in spitfires :rofl
Here it is. :devil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzumXyf2ueA
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There is a US version? I refuse to watch it. British Version buy a landslide.
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There is no German 'Top Gear' ;)
I'm pretty sure I saw something about this, but I probally mixed them up withsomething similar
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I like the US version, but it pales in comparison to the UK show.
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Arriving in style. :D
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As an Aussie, I have to say..
British Top Gear is the gold standard :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzumXyf2ueA
unfortunetly if I remember correctly there aren't that many twin seaters, and the used the same plane for each guy :cry
good editing tho
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British by a landslide.
Perfect combination of hosts.
Top Gear would work best if they brough english hosts to the various other countries.
Part of the magic is thier interactions with people not from the country of the show's origin.
Yep, brit Top Gear is the original and the others are just badly made ripoffs. It's funny how they tried to copy the format by introducing hosts which mimic Clarkson, Hammond and May but obviously look like cheap copies doing so.
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Yes the BBC version but that's largely due to Clarkson and his interaction with the other two. I think everyone has pointed out that's the missing piece with the Aussie and American versions. If they got the hosting right they'd be just as good. But the Brit version could go bad if one or other of the hosts were replaced.
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unfortunetly if I remember correctly there aren't that many twin seaters, and the used the same plane for each guy :cry
good editing tho
Google Duxford Spitfires and you will see the three that they used in the video, plus more. :)
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There is only one ...and that is the British ...... sequels are always lacking
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Brit version cant be beat. Now if Iran or NK decided to jump on that it could be very entertaining though :P
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British Top Gear 100x better, couldn't even watch the full American episode after seeing the British one :lol
^^THIS^^
I'm a huge fan of British Top Gear... watched the US version and it sucked so bad it made me want to stomp puppies and punch babies..... and I really like puppes and babies... so yeh, the US verion blows. And sucks.
AT. THE. SAME. TIME.
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Brits by far,
I enjoyed the episode where they brought over the Aussie version for a competition, but I really enjoyed the one with against the Germans, when the guys prosthetic arm fell off during the race.
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That was funny as hell. But the best thing on the episodes with the Germans ("don't mention the war...") was Sabine Schmitz. Though she was even better when she flogged that cargo van around the Nurburgring.
All the way around, the Brit version is tops. Love the road trips, the banter, most guests and most of the reviews. But they need to do more episodes. And I guess they are nearing an end, something about Clarkson and the other guy (not a host) doing something with the show. On my phone not going to google it. Saw it a while ago, probably beginning of this season
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'Merican.
Why? Because 'MERICA!
You would think that is the best one.
I thought it was such a disgrace that I stopped watching the history channel for a while out of spite. The hosts have 0 chemistry.
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Subtitled Image from the BBC.
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That was funny as hell. But the best thing on the episodes with the Germans ("don't mention the war...") was Sabine Schmitz. Though she was even better when she flogged that cargo van around the Nurburgring.
All the way around, the Brit version is tops. Love the road trips, the banter, most guests and most of the reviews. But they need to do more episodes. And I guess they are nearing an end, something about Clarkson and the other guy (not a host) doing something with the show. On my phone not going to google it. Saw it a while ago, probably beginning of this season
That Andy Guy?
Was he a presenter on VHS Top Gear?
I think They are The Who of television.
Getting their visas revoked by the Dept of State over that thing that happened in the fine state of Alabama will be my fondest memory.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoK4QYwixDc
My favorite challenge, when they race the Italian Batmobile against a Cessna across the continent.
A close second would be the Polar challenge.
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That Andy Guy?
Was he a presenter on VHS Top Gear?
I think They are The Who of television.
Getting their visas revoked by the Dept of State over that thing that happened in the fine state of Alabama will be my fondest memory.
Thanks for making me google on my phone lol. Andy Wilman was a presenter on the original version, never knew, cool. So was James May. But maybe it was just Clarkson selling his stake. That caused some major uproar. Haven't read the whole story again, can't remember why I thought Wilman too, but maybe later I will read it through.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2209736/Jeremy-Clarkson-set-5m-windfall-sells-stake-Top-Gear-firm-BBC.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2209736/Jeremy-Clarkson-set-5m-windfall-sells-stake-Top-Gear-firm-BBC.html)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoK4QYwixDc
My favorite challenge, when they race the Italian Batmobile against a Cessna across the continent.
A close second would be the Polar challenge.
Loved the polar challenge. Loved the trip across to Chile also, amazing stuff.
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I don't understand why the OP's question even needed to be asked.
There can be only one.
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I've read that article, basically they're making sure the highest paid mouth on the BBC doesn't control the brain.
Old format top gear was on forever, motorweek has been on forever, car talk has been on npr forever. I see him doing top gear and spin offs until he's too old to.
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What is the one where they all had mullets, that was my favorite.
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I heard Korean is fantastic.
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Can't handle the american one comparing mustang, camaros and challengers, over and over and over....
My personal favorite episode is where they buy a car in Miami and drive to new Orleans.....and damn near get rolled by some good ol' boys in Alabama
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What is the one where they all had mullets, that was my favorite.
Joe dirt?
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Clarkson and mullets:
http://youtu.be/z4d4yL979II?t=2m7s
Jeremy Clarkson meets the neighbors: Germany
He forgets to mention that Germans go completely apey at the mention of David Hasselhoff. I took 6 years of german a long time ago.
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UK, no question.
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He forgets to mention that Germans go completely apey at the mention of David Hasselhoff.
They do? :huh
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Back in the 80's they went ape crap over him.
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Back in the 80's they went ape crap over him.
I think he's still popular. As a performing artist. And an entertaining drunk naturally :devil
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UK Top Gear is unbeatable, it is the most popular TV show on Earth and has one of the largest budgets.
The others are copies.
It would be UK, then AUS, then US.
The US version is the lowest, because as stated in an earlier post. It is a contest between Challengers, Mustangs and Corvettes etc every week. And in one of the challenges I watched the "loser" car was generally a superior vehicle to the cars they had bought.
The "Alaska truck challenge", the loser car was a Toyota Hilux.... the best Pickup truck on planet earth... yet it was the "loser" car because it was Japanese...
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Watching American Top gear is like buying a Rowex off the internet.
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Let talk about something even more important, like Top Beer.
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Newcastle, corona, natural ice, and limerita's
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Newcastle, corona, natural ice, and limerita's
Burn the witch!
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UK Top Gear is unbeatable, it is the most popular TV show on Earth and has one of the largest budgets.
The others are copies.
It would be UK, then AUS, then US.
The US version is the lowest, because as stated in an earlier post. It is a contest between Challengers, Mustangs and Corvettes etc every week. And in one of the challenges I watched the "loser" car was generally a superior vehicle to the cars they had bought.
The "Alaska truck challenge", the loser car was a Toyota Hilux.... the best Pickup truck on planet earth... yet it was the "loser" car because it was Japanese...
That's understandable though. The challenge was finding the best American truck for the job. If anyone broke down they had to drive an import.
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That's understandable though. The challenge was finding the best American truck for the job. If anyone broke down they had to drive an import.
No self respecting American Pickup Truck owner will look at an imported pickup truck and immediately assume that just because it looks like a truck that it is a truck.
Once I was loading 80lb bags of floor dry into the back of a Toyota Tacoma. After we finished loaded it the tail gate no longer lined up with the bed sides or latched. Tossing the floor dry onto the bed warped the whole bed.
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No, Hilux' and Tacoma's aren't exactly "heavy duty".
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No self respecting American Pickup Truck owner will look at an imported pickup truck and immediately assume that just because it looks like a truck that it is a truck.
Once I was loading 80lb bags of floor dry into the back of a Toyota Tacoma. After we finished loaded it the tail gate no longer lined up with the bed sides or latched. Tossing the floor dry onto the bed warped the whole bed.
Did you look at the Max load it could take before you started?
Unlike america most Utes/pickups in the rest of the world are light to med duty as we don't need to tow a house or move 2 tons of bricks everyday. when we do we hire a flatbed truck that can carry 8-12 tons for that once in a blue-moon job.... or make sure you know someone with one and pay him a carton for the day.
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Nearly all of ours are light duty as well. I think Medium duty starts at F-450 or equivalent.
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Nearly all of ours are light duty as well. I think Medium duty starts at F-450 or equivalent.
Again the definition of light/med/heavy changes when other countries have Utes/bakkie/Pickups like these
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Opel_Corsa_Pickup_front_20071228.jpg)
(http://degriottier.free.fr/skoda_favorit_pick-up93.jpg)
(http://www.mynrma.com.au/media/proton_jumbuck_gli_2003.jpg)
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(http://www.marax.at/funpix/ford_f650_08.jpg)
Medium duty truck.
This is Ford's smallest offering. Available in 200,000 different configurations.
(http://i038.radikal.ru/1004/33/70650f415e11.jpg)
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Again the definition of light/med/heavy changes when other countries have Utes/bakkie/Pickups like these
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Opel_Corsa_Pickup_front_20071228.jpg)
(http://degriottier.free.fr/skoda_favorit_pick-up93.jpg)
(http://www.mynrma.com.au/media/proton_jumbuck_gli_2003.jpg)
That's great an ATV will fit in that truck. American full size short beds just fit an ATV. That guy might want to invest into a headache rack in case he comes to a sudden stop.
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He might also get a steering wheel. looks likes it missing! ;)
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Why is the steering wheel on the correct side of that blue ute?
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You did not answer the original question. Did you check what the truck could take before you started?
This here is the light-med duty sold in Australia and many parts of the world by ford and mazda.
(http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ford_pk_ranger_001.jpg)
Small turbo Diesels/ V6 petrol, 2WD/4WD and manual with little interior trim starting at the base model.
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(http://www.marax.at/funpix/ford_f650_08.jpg)
Medium duty truck.
This is Ford's smallest offering. Available in 200,000 different configurations.
(http://i038.radikal.ru/1004/33/70650f415e11.jpg)
With euro fuel prices nobody wants to drive trucks like that.
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The white one has more cargo space.
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The Americans have an extensive truck classification system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification
The Toyota is a Class 1, the smallest class, up to 6,000 pounds gross vehicle weight. Just about every Japanese and Euro pickup truck will be in this class.
The F-150 is a Class 2, up to 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight. In my country you wouldn't be able to drive this, the smallest Ford F-series truck, on a normal driving license. You'd need a truck/lorry license. Everything in America is bigger, it seems. ;)
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Btw Rob52240, that Ford F-350 you posted isn't exactly stock.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/2006_Ford_F-350_FX4.jpg)
Not quite so impressive in stock configuration.
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The Americans have an extensive truck classification system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification
The Toyota is a Class 1, the smallest class, up to 6,000 pounds gross vehicle weight. Just about every Japanese and Euro pickup truck will be in this class.
The F-150 is a Class 2, up to 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight. In my country you wouldn't be able to drive this, the smallest Ford F-series truck, on a normal driving license. You'd need a truck/lorry license. Everything in America is bigger, it seems. ;)
F150 and Toyota Tundra are direct competitors, both with approximately the same gross weight (about 6,000lbs), bed limits (about 2,000lbs) and towing limits (about 10,000lbs). Toyota has no direct competitor for the F250 or above.
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The F-150 is listed there as a Class 2 though...
Btw. Karnak, did you receive my PM?
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Btw Rob52240, that Ford F-350 you posted isn't exactly stock.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/2006_Ford_F-350_FX4.jpg)
Not quite so impressive in stock configuration.
I think it was a F-650 I've never seen anyone put super singles on anything smaller.
I miss the good old days when gas was under $1 a gallon and I drove a 5000 pound coupe that legally seated 6.
(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2009/09/10/12/54/1978_mercury_cougar-pic-7951.jpeg)
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I would buy that car if I was the sort of person who looked at their sister and thought, mmmmmm.
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Way to bring Clarkson into it.
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I'll bet that toyota pickup trucks worldwide have carried more pounds of cargo than any other brand simply because they are all over the world carrying cargo while most pickup trucks in "first world" countrys spend much of thier time empty.
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Not bloody likely.
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Game, set and match .. icepac.
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I would love to be able to get a diesel Toyota HiLux. Even thought about buying a new one in central America and driving it back to the US.
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Diesel engines are not an option in the US?
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Diesel engines are not an option in the US?
Diesels do not and really never have sold well in the US. To that end most manufactures will not offer the model with one as the cost of getting it approved/modified to US regs/poor diesel fuel & crash standards cannot be recovered.
The fuel quality has improved alot in the last few years so that may not be such an issue anymore, but every time you change the motor you have to retest it for emissions and crash safety. This is because the US will not except Euro NCAP or the Australian NCAP nor other countries emission regulations.
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Ne [sic] of the reason I prefer English version is cause they aren't American and have different perspectives on alot of things than americans do.
this is a key point - its the different perspective which makes it more interesting. eg. I like Man v Food, but theres no way I'd want to watch a Brit version of it.
I must be about the only person who actually likes TGUS, for just this reason. The US team are starting to get a vibe going between them and its already much better than the first 20? seasons of TG. Seriously - check youtube for early TGs and their reviews of brown Morris Marinas and the like. It stinks.
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Please allow me to Retort.
Notice Americans do it in a way that's 50 state legal.
(http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae169/transamz9/SANY0185-1.jpg)
Honda's Squat where a full size pickup will not.
(http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/ls-tractors/313225d1365995831-question-about-trailering-ls-r4041-towing-home-ls-tractor.jpg)
(http://www.autoweek.com/storyimage/CW/20130109/CARNEWS/130109870/AR/0/new-ram-3500-towing.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7lKlyEI.gif)
F-150 head on crash test with honda civic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCelD0qr8Do
Lets also consider the fact that the big 3 have made more pickemuptrucks than any other 3 companies.
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Notice Americans do it in a way that's 50 state legal.
The loads posted by Ice are legal in many countries. America is only one country no mater how many states it has.
Also the video you posted shows the Civics safety cell holding up and protecting the passengers. so not sure why you posted it?
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The ford didnt even need new fenders.
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The ford didnt even need new fenders.
The Civic would be covered by insurance. But if the F150 had hit a solid wall, the chassis of the truck might stay solid and be cheaper to repair, but the shock of impact is transmitted to the occupants of the truck. The lighter smaller civic let the truck disserpate some of its energy by riding up on the bonnet.
A solo car crash into a solid object is around 30-40% more likely if the stats have not changed too much sense I last checked them.
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who crashes into the side of a cliff at highway speeds? It's driver error if it happens.
From personal experience, accidents involving pickup trucks and all cars at highway speed the full size pickup occupants suffered no more than a concussion / bloody nose, seatbelts or not. In both cases the driver of the car did not survive. In a 3rd incident involving a 1960's International 4x4 pickup with 3 occupants the truck drove off of a 12 meter cliff and landed upside down. The teenager in the center weaing a lap belt or no seatbelt survived with no serious injuries or medical attention for 2 days.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0la1rfbd11qd3mgpo1_500.jpg)
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The ford didnt even need new fenders.
Crash tests of disparate masses aren't very revealing. I once touched the fender of a BMW while pulling out of a tight spot with my '01 Tundra. Result: $1500 of damage to the BMW and, literally, not even a scratch on the Tundra.
On the other hand I did the same to a boulder and the bumper got some nice deep scratches and a dent.
1997-2003 Ford F150 crash test (the one I had to compare when I bought my Tundra):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i5EmJBaGeQ
2000-2006 Toyota Tundra crash test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-o8K9KOYgI
Improved, new versions:
2011 Ford F150 crash test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuiKob58Ooc
2012 Toyota Tundra crash test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxoQJohaXGw
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There's no arguing that the 97-03 models failed some particular tests miserably. Stamped steel pickup bumpers will bend easily when hit.
I've been seeing a lot of pairs of pistons dangling from hitch receivers as of late, is this a national fad? I remember truck nuts but never see them anymore.
Kinda like this
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm102/TexLes/TruckNuts-1.jpg)
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Crash tests of disparate masses aren't very revealing. I once touched the fender of a BMW while pulling out of a tight spot with my '01 Tundra. Result: $1500 of damage to the BMW and, literally, not even a scratch on the Tundra.
They're called crumple zones. That means that when the BMW hits a wall at 50mph it absorbs the energy and protect the occupants in the 'survival cage'. Your Tundra will project the impact almost directly to the passengers and it would fail collision tests because of that.
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(http://i.imgur.com/7lKlyEI.gif)
I'd say your building code is either outdated or this fuel station clearly didn't follow it lol! Gas stations get impacts like that regularly and the structures should be built to handle them without collapsing.
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Doesn't look like a gas station. Looks more like some sort of parking booth.
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I think it's a bank.
Are sprint cars top gear UK worthy?
http://youtu.be/TtyDLnBcDVs?t=34s