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Title: Please explain!!
Post by: Grayclif on April 23, 2013, 08:34:22 AM
Could someone please explain the following to his Lordship - The Grayclif?:

*How does the game determine who can ditch their plane and tower out without an enemy plane nearby getting awarded the kill, after numerous hits were made on the ditching plane?

This happened early this morning when I scored multiple hits on "Mike51" (member of the The Few squad) and whilst he was 1.0 - 1.5k away on the ground from me, towered out without me getting the proxy. The few (no pun intended) times I have found myself in a similar situation, the enemy always got the kill on me, even if they flew away past 6.0k.

Kindest Regards,

Hail Grayclif
(at ease)

<G>
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: manglex1 on April 23, 2013, 08:41:28 AM
I'm pretty sure that no matter how many hits you've gotten, if they ditch it doesn't count as a kill. I'd confirm that though
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Dragon on April 23, 2013, 08:48:49 AM
Maybe you didn't hit him. 



Maybe you missed. 





Maybe he used the super secret Few Tool on you.

 :noid
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Debrody on April 23, 2013, 08:50:31 AM
THEY ARE CHEATERS!! BURN THEM, BURNNNNN!!!!
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Pand on April 23, 2013, 08:56:40 AM
Simple!  Reqs to get a kill/assist from an enemy ditch:

1.  You put at least a single round into him (or he is inside 2.5K when exiting).
2.  He then (crash) lands his plane on the ground.
3.  He is closer to an enemy field than a friendly one (his perspective - dont forget about CVs).
4.  He exits flight before you do.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Lusche on April 23, 2013, 08:57:20 AM
*How does the game determine who can ditch their plane and tower out without an enemy plane nearby getting awarded the kill, after numerous hits were made on the ditching plane?

'Ditched' or 'captured' in planes?

It only depends on ownership of the closest base. If this is a friendly base you are in friendly territory and will always get a ditch. If the closest base is an enemy base, you are in hostile territory and you will get a 'captured', if an enemy is in proxy range at that time or has pinged you at any time before you went down, he will get a kill on you.

Note that CV task groups are regular bases for this purpose. Contrary to a common myth, the 'dar circles' have no influence.


The Sideswitcher.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Dragon on April 23, 2013, 09:02:57 AM


The Sideswitcher.


Nice touch.

 :aok
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Grayclif on April 23, 2013, 09:08:26 AM
Garbage.

I was in a Ki and put at least 10-20 rounds into him. He crash landed, and then towered out less than 1.5k from me on the ground, and yes. He was just off his base. Still. I have been in similar situations and the enemy always got the kill regardless

Something that obviously needs addressed.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Pand on April 23, 2013, 09:12:15 AM
They didn't if you landed and exited flight without exploding in friendly territory.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Dragon on April 23, 2013, 09:19:29 AM
You were in a KI what and what kind of rounds did you put into him and where did they hit his plane? 
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: hitech on April 23, 2013, 09:23:05 AM
Garbage.

I was in a Ki and put at least 10-20 rounds into him. He crash landed, and then towered out less than 1.5k from me on the ground, and yes. He was just off his base. Still. I have been in similar situations and the enemy always got the kill regardless

Something that obviously needs addressed.

I agree something needs to be addressed, and that being reading comprehension.

Ditched / captured.

If you stop successfully on the ground, and are not on a runway/taxiway you are considered to be one of the following, ditched or captured.

If the closest field (vehicle, carrier ,port or airfield ) to you is friendly you are considered ditched and a kill is NEVER awarded for a ditched aircraft.
 
If the closest field (vehicle, carrier ,port or airfield ) to you is ENEMY you are considered captured and a kill is awarded based on most damage , and if no damage was done  proximity.

HiTech

Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Guppy35 on April 23, 2013, 09:23:46 AM
Garbage.

I was in a Ki and put at least 10-20 rounds into him. He crash landed, and then towered out less than 1.5k from me on the ground, and yes. He was just off his base. Still. I have been in similar situations and the enemy always got the kill regardless

Something that obviously needs addressed.

I would agree with you.  I think most importantly we need to address taking this seriously.  I'd suggest a pencil and paper next to your computer so you can chalk up any kills you feel you have unfairly been denied.  Be sure and get all the details down so as to document a pattern.  Then I'd write a long e-mail to Skuzzy detailing your suffering in hopes he'll take it up the line to Hitech.  If your evidence is complete enough I'm sure that they will sit down immediately and recode things so that your kill deprivation can be corrected.

You might want to see if "The Sideswitcher" can support you with one of his statistical works as well.   I understand that because he's 'the sideswitcher' he might be suspect in his work, but overall I think historically he's not let his desire to abuse the game by jumping countries, interfere with the integrity of his statistical work.

I wish you all success in your efforts to right this wrong. :aok
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Changeup on April 23, 2013, 09:24:31 AM
Who cares? 

Graycliff..  You're dismissed.  Poof yourself.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: waystin2 on April 23, 2013, 10:02:52 AM
This guy reminds me of a movie...What was the name of the flick?  :headscratch:

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1424167/dance.gif)
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Skuzzy on April 23, 2013, 10:05:45 AM
This guy reminds me of a movie...What was the name of the flick?  :headscratch:

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1424167/dance.gif)


My Wife's favorite movie.  Dumb & Dumber
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: xbrit on April 23, 2013, 10:16:45 AM
Could someone please explain the following to his Lordship - The Grayclif?:

*How does the game determine who can ditch their plane and tower out without an enemy plane nearby getting awarded the kill, after numerous hits were made on the ditching plane?

This happened early this morning when I scored multiple hits on "Mike51" (member of the The Few squad) and whilst he was 1.0 - 1.5k away on the ground from me, towered out without me getting the proxy. The few (no pun intended) times I have found myself in a similar situation, the enemy always got the kill on me, even if they flew away past 6.0k.

Kindest Regards,

Hail Grayclif
(at ease)

<G>


But wait, just a few days ago you told me and many others that you had been in this game since 1999. If that was the case surely you would know how the ditch/capture system works? Then again Mike51 is a member of the Few so in your deluded mind we have super powers and can change the system to suit ourselves. You should really take off your tin foil hat someday.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Noir on April 23, 2013, 10:29:14 AM
The Few is recruiting, tin foil hat as a free membership gift  :D
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Wiley on April 23, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
tin foil hat as a free membership gift  :D

Is the egg salad on the inside, or the outside of the tinfoil? :noid

Wiley.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Grayclif on April 23, 2013, 10:45:18 AM
Also, (as all I hear on 200 is how the mighty have fallen, and how I am not as good as I used to be 10 years ago), well....perhaps that is true. However, I use a 2009 model Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop to run the game. That gives me a frame rate that flucuates from 3-9 on most days. I run the most generic and basic graphics available (and still my planes all have parts that appear bright/neon green)

Gone are the days of 2002 when basic graphics were the norm, there was no "rudder waddle", no ultra sensitive gamma setts, and the only hacking was unlimited ammo.
I ran a Gateway back then with a GForce 3 graphics card/accelerator and had a very high frame rate then. (sigh, wipes tear)

On top of that I have a 2004 model Saitek ST290 pro as a stick. That, coupled with the realistic plane waddle when you use the rudder, (and screwy gamma settings that are ultra sensitive) makes for a very difficult playing scenario. As such the Grayclif will hear no more commentary about my current flying abilities vs 2001-2002.

Hail Grayclif

<G>
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Guppy35 on April 23, 2013, 10:47:24 AM
What does that have to do with your whine in this thread?
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: waystin2 on April 23, 2013, 10:50:20 AM
My Wife's favorite movie.  Dumb & Dumber

She has good taste in comedy! :aok
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Bruv119 on April 23, 2013, 10:59:17 AM
 :rolleyes:   :lol
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Dragon on April 23, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
What does that have to do with your whine in this thread?

Whine and CHEESE

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo82/bzavasnik/cheese_trolly_zpsa8bc6a85.jpg)
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 23, 2013, 12:17:59 PM
Garbage.

I was in a Ki and put at least 10-20 rounds into him. He crash landed, and then towered out less than 1.5k from me on the ground, and yes. He was just off his base. Still. I have been in similar situations and the enemy always got the kill regardless

Something that obviously needs addressed.

The only garbage in this post is your lack of understanding of the game mechanics.  Pand and Lusche the Sideswitcher explained it quite well, you're just so caught up with the whole tin foil hat cheat conspiracy that you won't accept anything else that doesn't conform to your paranoid fantasies.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: xbrit on April 23, 2013, 12:22:37 PM
Looks like another one of those posts that didn't go the way the OP intended.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2013, 12:23:49 PM
What does that have to do with your whine in this thread?

Technical disability excuse?  :D
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Grayclif on April 23, 2013, 12:25:09 PM
*slaps Pand, Lusche the Sideswitcher, and the rest of you in the face with glove*

The Grayclif asked for clarification and answers, and rec'd only a portion of both. Pox on you all. I shall smite thee with furious anger and retribution shall be mine. Frame rate be dam#$%.


Hail Grayclif


Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Wiley on April 23, 2013, 12:28:03 PM
The Grayclif asked for clarification and answers, and rec'd only a portion of both.


Er...


Ditched / captured.

If you stop successfully on the ground, and are not on a runway/taxiway you are considered to be one of the following, ditched or captured.

If the closest field (vehicle, carrier ,port or airfield ) to you is friendly you are considered ditched and a kill is NEVER awarded for a ditched aircraft.
 
If the closest field (vehicle, carrier ,port or airfield ) to you is ENEMY you are considered captured and a kill is awarded based on most damage , and if no damage was done  proximity.

HiTech

Doesn't get much clearer or complete than that.  Might not be the answer you wanted, but that's how it works.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Grayclif on April 23, 2013, 12:29:27 PM
I am also upset that I am not (after 10 years +) a radioactive or plutonium member.

$15 x 12 = $180

$180 x 12 years = $2,160

Give me a special membership status, and I shall post no more. The Grayclif persona will henceforth be deceased. 200 chat will be no more. And there will be no more hails from me.

Love,

Grayclif van Gleason the III
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Delirium on April 23, 2013, 12:31:55 PM
From his posts on FB, to his posts on here, Grayclif is by far one of the most deluded individuals in Aces High today. I guarantee his accusations of imagined cheating will crescendo until Skuzzy will have to take action.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
Meh.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Wiley on April 23, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
From his posts on FB, to his posts on here, Grayclif is by far one of the most deluded individuals in Aces High today. I guarantee his accusations of imagined cheating will crescendo until Skuzzy will have to take action.

I hadn't been following him that close, but based on this thread and a couple others I've seen in passing my money's on troll.  Meh.  .squelch has been my SOP when I see him log in anyways.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrck2tyvrv1qaqy0wo1_500.jpg)  :D
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: xbrit on April 23, 2013, 01:56:08 PM
It's a waste of time trying to explain how anything works to this guy, like he said he's been here
10 years and still doesn't know. Every time I see him on, which until recently I had never even heard of him,
he's normally accusing members of the Few of manipulating the game mechanics.
Like a lot of other guys I have been here more than 10 years but even back then I had never heard of any
of the names he gave me when I said I had gone back over the tours to find mention of him, that's when he
told me that I had no way of checking and that my stats were invisible and not available to anyone
else.
He really is a Tin Foil Cowboy.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: scott66 on April 23, 2013, 02:36:46 PM
i wish i could explain getting whooped by bruv119 last night by "the few" powers but he just out flew me in his spit against my nikki ..had a blast he killed me 10 times but i got him once by picking him hehehehe  :salute
It's a waste of time trying to explain how anything works to this guy, like he said he's been here
10 years and still doesn't know. Every time I see him on, which until recently I had never even heard of him,
he's normally accusing members of the Few of manipulating the game mechanics.
Like a lot of other guys I have been here more than 10 years but even back then I had never heard of any
of the names he gave me when I said I had gone back over the tours to find mention of him, that's when he
told me that I had no way of checking and that my stats were invisible and not available to anyone
else.
He really is a Tin Foil Cowboy.

Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Nathan60 on April 23, 2013, 02:52:51 PM
Garbage.

I was in a Ki and put at least 10-20 rounds into him. He crash landed, and then towered out less than 1.5k from me on the ground, and yes. He was just off his base. Still. I have been in similar situations and the enemy always got the kill regardless

Something that obviously needs addressed.
NOpe you must be mistaken, Ifs always a non kill if he ditches in freindly territory. You are probably blowing up upon contact with the ground thats not a ditch you must live through the crash landing. 
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Dragon on April 23, 2013, 02:59:14 PM
The Gayclef is also upset that I am not (after 10 years +) a radioactive or plutonium member.

$15 x 12 = $180

$180 x 12 years = $2,160

Give me a special membership status, and I shall post no more. The Gayclef persona will henceforth be deceased. 200 chat will be no more. And there will be no more hails from me.

Love,

Gayclef van Gleason the III

Third person fail.

The Dragon has fixed thine mistakes.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: xbrit on April 23, 2013, 03:00:27 PM
NOpe you must be mistaken, Ifs always a non kill if he ditches in freindly territory. You are probably blowing up upon contact with the ground thats not a ditch you must live through the crash landing. 

Ham watch out he may change his paranoia to your Squad unless you agree with him,which will give you guys endless amounts of fun on vox.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: SPKmes on April 23, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR28VCQE-26tVAnnxSwhaQ85sEs0a3KfQQJ8dgu_mD8si15jhQh) just tell me the first thing that comes to your mind
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Arlo on April 23, 2013, 03:15:08 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR28VCQE-26tVAnnxSwhaQ85sEs0a3KfQQJ8dgu_mD8si15jhQh) just tell me the first thing that comes to your mind

I know! I know! Dancing with lobsters! Wait ... that wasn't meant for me, was it?
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: coombz on April 23, 2013, 03:18:05 PM
THEY ARE CHEATERS!! BURN THEM, BURNNNNN!!!!

:aok

mike is an especially bad apple
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: TOMCAT21 on April 23, 2013, 03:24:03 PM
 :headscratch: :confused:
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: ink on April 23, 2013, 04:01:43 PM
Del and a few others hit the nail right smack on the head...... :aok
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Ninthmessiah on April 23, 2013, 04:04:06 PM
I saw a frog.

Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: scott66 on April 23, 2013, 04:36:24 PM
im in trouble then i see a ballerina
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: maxy on April 23, 2013, 05:12:48 PM
crack is whack  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Zoney on April 23, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR28VCQE-26tVAnnxSwhaQ85sEs0a3KfQQJ8dgu_mD8si15jhQh) just tell me the first thing that comes to your mind

Not everything is black and white ya know.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: mechanic on April 23, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
I believe the Greyclif is often merely trying to inject his own brand of oldskool forum humour into us in a rather obscure way as well as complaining about being denied a kill, which, judging by his computer specs, may have been his only kill all year and thus, quite understandably, mildly perturbing.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Squire on April 23, 2013, 06:52:50 PM
Quote
I am also upset that I am not radioactive


You are not the only one.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Volron on April 23, 2013, 07:22:12 PM
Heh.  Warbeast, with a different name and a different approach.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: JimmyD3 on April 23, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
I know! I know! Dancing with lobsters! Wait ... that wasn't meant for me, was it?

 :headscratch: Oh I see the Lobsters now. :aok
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Changeup on April 23, 2013, 08:35:54 PM
I see a bra that's too small.  Did I win something?
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Shifty on April 23, 2013, 08:43:07 PM
*slaps Pand, Lusche the Sideswitcher, and the rest of you in the face with glove*

The Grayclif asked for clarification and answers, and rec'd only a portion of both. Pox on you all. I shall smite thee with furious anger and retribution shall be mine. Frame rate be dam#$%.


Hail Grayclif

Jebus.. :confused:
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: ROC on April 23, 2013, 10:21:07 PM
Quote
Give me a special membership status, and I shall post no more.

Forum set to "ignore"
Wish granted :)  You shall post no more.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: 5PointOh on April 23, 2013, 11:33:54 PM
With a stated spec of 3 frames...would you even be able to play AH? Seriously. 
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Zacherof on April 24, 2013, 12:02:30 AM
Heh.  Warbeast, with a different name and a different approach.
let's not even get started on this dweeb.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Slash27 on April 24, 2013, 09:40:13 AM
My Wife's favorite movie.  Dumb & Dumber
Carey and Daniels were rumored to make a sequel.
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: lunatic1 on April 24, 2013, 05:45:59 PM
I agree something needs to be addressed, and that being reading comprehension.

Ditched / captured.

If you stop successfully on the ground, and are not on a runway/taxiway you are considered to be one of the following, ditched or captured.

If the closest field (vehicle, carrier ,port or airfield ) to you is friendly you are considered ditched and a kill is NEVER awarded for a ditched aircraft.
 
If the closest field (vehicle, carrier ,port or airfield ) to you is ENEMY you are considered captured and a kill is awarded based on most damage , and if no damage was done  proximity.

HiTech <----- what he said :joystick:


Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: JUGgler on April 24, 2013, 06:19:41 PM
This troll smells of midway!   :O


JUGgler
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Zacherof on April 24, 2013, 06:49:42 PM
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b629/Zacherof/tumblr_lqk1hawmRL1qeccu0_zpsea5e409d.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Zacherof/media/tumblr_lqk1hawmRL1qeccu0_zpsea5e409d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Twizzty on April 24, 2013, 07:03:20 PM
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/TwizztyAH/DumbAndDumber.gif) (http://s528.photobucket.com/user/TwizztyAH/media/DumbAndDumber.gif.html)
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: Dragon Tamer on April 24, 2013, 09:11:55 PM
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/TwizztyAH/DumbAndDumber.gif) (http://s528.photobucket.com/user/TwizztyAH/media/DumbAndDumber.gif.html)

 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: danny76 on April 25, 2013, 05:26:22 AM
Carey and Daniels were rumored to make a sequel.

Any chance they could try and make the next one funny?
Title: Re: Please explain!!
Post by: hitech on April 25, 2013, 08:25:33 AM
This thread has run it course and is now going down hill. So time to put it out of it's misery.

HiTech