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Title: Yak cockpit
Post by: Grayclif on June 17, 2013, 06:55:27 AM
Is the Yak the only fighter without an updated cockpit (movable controls/gauges etc)?

Why hasn't it been updated?
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Spikes on June 17, 2013, 07:22:39 AM
Because they havent chosen to yet.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Max on June 17, 2013, 08:17:25 AM
Allow me to consult with the netherworld

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2630/6r4.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/6r4.png/)

Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 17, 2013, 08:21:49 AM
Is the Yak the only fighter without an updated cockpit (movable controls/gauges etc)?

Why hasn't it been updated?

Ki61 Tony?  There are others as well.  Give them time, I'd like to see a new Ju88, B26, and SBD as well.  Heck, I think we'd all like to see all of the first generation models upgraded.  In due time they will be.  

I hope to see the Ki61 remodeled and the and Ki100 added at the same time.  Ditto goes for the Yak 9T/U remodel and adding another Yak or two.   :aok
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Lusche on June 17, 2013, 08:23:11 AM
Ki61 Tony?  There are others as well.


One of the most notable examples being the Tempest.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Latrobe on June 17, 2013, 08:34:39 AM
I'd love to see all those planes updated. Among the top ones that I want to see updated are the F4F and FM2! I'd fly those a lot more off cvs if they didn't look so ugly.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Karnak on June 17, 2013, 08:39:01 AM
Is the Yak the only fighter without an updated cockpit (movable controls/gauges etc)?

Why hasn't it been updated?
3D models still needing to be updated:

A-20G
Ar234B
B-26B
B5N2
Bf110C-4b
Bf110G-2
Boston Mk III
D3A1
F4F-4
FM2
Ju88A-4
Ki-61-I-Tei
Ki-67
Me163B
TBM-3
Tempest Mk V
SBD-5
Yak-9T
Yak-9U

There has been a hint that the updated Yaks are coming in the next version.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Tilt on June 17, 2013, 09:00:14 AM


There has been a hint that the updated Yaks are coming in the next version.

Where please?
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Karnak on June 17, 2013, 09:28:26 AM
Where please?

This thread:

Well that is very interesting. Looking at the books on Waffle's desk. There's the Soviet Combat Aircraft of the Second World War Vol. 1: Single-Engined Fighters and then I see a back cover of Squadron Signal's Yak fighters in action.

I'm guessing Yaks are getting updated as we speak. Hopefully there will be more variants coming!

Nice pics, thanks for posting!


Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: PanosGR on June 17, 2013, 11:03:42 AM
3D models still needing to be updated:

Gloster Meteor
Ki-100
G.55
CANT Z.1007
Savoia-Marchetti SM.79
Bloch MB.150
He-162
Yak-7
Ki-44

 :noid
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 17, 2013, 11:21:43 AM
3D models still needing to be updated:

Gloster Meteor
Ki-100
G.55
CANT Z.1007
Savoia-Marchetti SM.79
Bloch MB.150
He-162
Yak-7
Ki-44

 :noid


I seez wut youz didz therez.   :aok  You forgot the D520, Wellington, Beaufighter, and SB-2.   ;)
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Gixer on June 17, 2013, 02:23:27 PM
There has been a hint that the updated Yaks are coming in the next version.

 :pray


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: JimmyD3 on June 17, 2013, 03:15:39 PM
Allow me to consult with the netherworld

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2630/6r4.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/6r4.png/)



 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: bustr on June 17, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
When the Yak's are updated, I want the little mark on the back of the prop to adjust the PBP gunsight for the HUB cannon IP at 200yds. Even the P51D had one for a quick visual reference to make sure the gunsight hadn't been bumped or used as a climb out of the cockpit handle by the pilot.

Any of you old Yak drivers the least bit worried when HTC updates the Yak graphics we won't be able to hit anything? That's what?? 11-12 years of muscle memory?...... :joystick:
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Fruda on June 17, 2013, 06:36:29 PM
Update the Yaks, add the -7 and -3 variants, and add some additional Soviet fighters...

...namely, the LaGG-3 and MiG-3.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Butcher on June 17, 2013, 06:43:50 PM
Update the Yaks, add the -7 and -3 variants, and add some additional Soviet fighters...

...namely, the LaGG-3 and MiG-3.

I always had an interest flying the LaGG-3, flying IL-2 I thought it was a pretty awesome aircraft until I realized the 109E pretty much outclassed it in every way. However the armament really made up my mind, two 50 cals and a 20mm is the same what our Yak has, however given some of the other armament packages of soviet fighters (Mig-3) I felt my aim sucked enough I much rather have the 20mm.
Mig-3 is going to be terribly underarmed, one 12.7 and two light machine guns, however it did have the option of twin 12.7s in gunpods - however flying any other aircraft with gunpods, its going to do "ok" against bombers, but meat for fighters.

Either way I will like the challenge of flying it, what i wouldn't give for a twin 20mm version of the Yak-9. 
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Nathan60 on June 17, 2013, 06:51:15 PM
:pray


<S>...-Gixer

Do you want an updated yak or an updated engine?
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Fruda on June 17, 2013, 06:54:16 PM
I always had an interest flying the LaGG-3, flying IL-2 I thought it was a pretty awesome aircraft until I realized the 109E pretty much outclassed it in every way. However the armament really made up my mind, two 50 cals and a 20mm is the same what our Yak has, however given some of the other armament packages of soviet fighters (Mig-3) I felt my aim sucked enough I much rather have the 20mm.
Mig-3 is going to be terribly underarmed, one 12.7 and two light machine guns, however it did have the option of twin 12.7s in gunpods - however flying any other aircraft with gunpods, its going to do "ok" against bombers, but meat for fighters.

Either way I will like the challenge of flying it, what i wouldn't give for a twin 20mm version of the Yak-9. 

The LaGG-3 would be added mostly for EW purposes, as it was not exactly a very good performer. Speaking of EW, the Yak-1 should be added as well.

As for the MiG-3, it's another EW addition, but the main draw is its high altitude performance. It apparently had very good maneuverability, but a moderate climb rate. 398mph at altitude.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Gixer on June 17, 2013, 08:13:45 PM
Do you want an updated yak or an updated engine?

Updated engine by long margin, but given that's likely to never happen. An updated Yak and I might be able to find some time to return.



<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Grayclif on June 18, 2013, 07:22:28 AM
Save this for another thread but I have longed for HTC to add the Peashooter to the line up. I think it was a P-36?
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Oldman731 on June 18, 2013, 07:47:58 AM
Save this for another thread but I have longed for HTC to add the Peashooter to the line up. I think it was a P-36?

P-26.  But the P-36 would be nice, too.

- oldman
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Debrody on June 18, 2013, 09:03:56 AM
Crying that his comp is a crap - wishing for more graphics    :aok
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Grayclif on June 18, 2013, 09:46:18 AM
It is crap for gaming. But I am selling my house, so I intend to invest in a new PC when I buy my next place. It just isn't a priority.

Either way, I can only imagine how good I will be with a frame rate of 60 or more. I'm already the best with a frame rate of 4-7!
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: aztec on June 18, 2013, 05:34:15 PM
Updated engine by long margin, but given that's likely to never happen. An updated Yak and I might be able to find some time to return.



<S>...-Gixer

Well if they do and you do please look me up Gixer! Been a Yak fanatic since Warbirds and would love to learn some of your stuff. :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Zacherof on June 18, 2013, 07:30:12 PM
It is crap for gaming. But I am selling my house, so I intend to invest in a new PC when I buy my next place. It just isn't a priority.

Either way, I can only imagine how good I will be with a frame rate of 60 or more. I'm already the best with a frame rate of 4-7!
I'll give you this grayclif. I can't stand to fly with that low of FPS. Everything is set to the lowest setting and I stay about 22-33. Soon as more than 20 guys are by me 10. Add in alll those dropping bombs...0.

You must be very patient
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Fruda on June 19, 2013, 02:45:05 AM
I'll give you this grayclif. I can't stand to fly with that low of FPS. Everything is set to the lowest setting and I stay about 22-33. Soon as more than 20 guys are by me 10. Add in alll those dropping bombs...0.

You must be very patient

I envy your patience. I refuse to fly with any less than ~60.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: ink on June 19, 2013, 02:51:21 AM
you guys really don't believe the game would be playable with a frame rate of 4-7 do you? :rofl

it would be stop motion and completely unplayable.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Zacherof on June 19, 2013, 03:06:05 AM
you guys really don't believe the game would be playable with a frame rate of 4-7 do you? :rofl

it would be stop motion and completely unplayable.
actually it would become a massive gif :D

(usually when these darn clouds appear)
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Grayclif on June 19, 2013, 11:20:52 AM
It totally IS playable with 4-7fpm! It's all I've known for 4 years. Prior to that I had an old modified Gateway with a Gforce3 and it ran 60fpm.

Last night I lowered object detail to the bare min, and horizon distance to 0.5. That gave me 15-27 fpm at best. It's been like Christmas ever since.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Zacherof on June 19, 2013, 11:32:28 AM
It totally IS playable with 4-7fpm! It's all I've known for 4 years. Prior to that I had an old modified Gateway with a Gforce3 and it ran 60fpm.

Last night I lowered object detail to the bare min, and horizon distance to 0.5. That gave me 15-27 fpm at best. It's been like Christmas ever since.
turn everyThing off except bump map terrain.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Tank-Ace on June 19, 2013, 11:36:46 AM

There has been a hint that the updated Yaks are coming in the next version.

I heard through the rumor mill that we might be getting an update to the F4F (perhaps including a - 3) and FM2.

And the guy heard this from also called the Tiger II six months before hand, and the 410 3 1/2 months before. He's either reliable, or a stupid-lucky guesser.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Gixer on June 19, 2013, 01:56:09 PM
I heard through the rumor mill that we might be getting an update to the F4F (perhaps including a - 3) and FM2.

Given other aircraft that have been released after the Yak and been updated first is a disappointment, plus the endless hangar queens, GV's, American rides and development time wasting events like ToD, WW1.

The above wouldn't surprise me in the least.  :bhead

The Yaks are now the oldest plane model in the game that haven't had a single update since probably Beta, and still some 13+ years on not a hint they will be updated anytime soon other than for a rumour or two..     :mad:

For years I've been saying priority should go to completing all the original AH1 aircraft before releasing any new plane or GV, but that opinion is always voted down by the xbox crowd looking for the next and greatest gun platform to take down bases and vulch.


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Tilt on June 19, 2013, 04:20:09 PM

The above wouldn't surprise me in the least.  :bhead

The Yaks are now the oldest plane model in the game that haven't <snip> <snip><S>...-Gixer


Dont be so defeatest...one day we will have our Yaks  and on that day thanks to Waffle, Greebo, Superfly, Pyro et al they will be the best damn Yaks ever flown in the virtual world.................. :airplane:
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Fruda on June 19, 2013, 04:21:29 PM
At least the Lavochkins were updated. That in some way brings hope that the Yaks are coming soon.

When we get updated Yaks, the 9U (or 3, if we get it) will be my main ride, no question.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Arlo on June 19, 2013, 04:44:36 PM
(http://www.carto.net/neumann/travelling/china_tibet_2001/19_pass_kampala/31_speedy_rene_on_yak.jpg)
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Karnak on June 19, 2013, 05:19:17 PM
I heard through the rumor mill that we might be getting an update to the F4F (perhaps including a - 3) and FM2.

And the guy heard this from also called the Tiger II six months before hand, and the 410 3 1/2 months before. He's either reliable, or a stupid-lucky guesser.
The Me410 won the vote.  Everybody who had paid attention to the vote called that one.
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Butcher on June 19, 2013, 05:25:10 PM
The Me410 won the vote.  Everybody who had paid attention to the vote called that one.

Problem is most who voted - have not a clue what they were voting on, just a general idea - the B29 won same for Me410 just because "big guns".

Much as I hate to say, I am against voting, just add the planes.

Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Lusche on June 19, 2013, 05:32:36 PM
Problem is most who voted - have not a clue what they were voting on, just a general idea - the B29 won same for Me410 just because "big guns".

Much as I hate to say, I am against voting, just add the planes.



But both were great additions to AH. And the 410 is still not the Hangar Queen some predicted it to be :)
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 19, 2013, 07:22:40 PM
Problem is most who voted - have not a clue what they were voting on, just a general idea - the B29 won same for Me410 just because "big guns".
Much as I hate to say, I am against voting, just add the planes.

Thing is though every plane that HTC enters in to AH is "voted" in.  They simply gave the players a vote and in this circumstance they voted for the B29, then the Me410, etc.

The He111 was not voted in.  The Ki-43 Oscar was not voted in. The 4 models (2 new and 2 remodels) of P40's were not voted in. IIRC, the wonderbird Brewster B-239 was not voted in.  Mossi B Mk XVI?  Nope.  If we look at the number of planes and gv's HTC has added in to the AH line up over the past 5 years, just how many were voted in and just how many were added by the prerogative of HTC?   

As much as I cringe when I see the likes of the Me410 get voted upon over a plane or gv with a larger or more important role in WWII (SB-2, Wellington, Beaufighter, D520, Pzr III, StuG, etc), I fully support HTC's allowing the players to vote.  Though, now that it has been added I do enjoy using the Me410.  It is a one of a kind bomber killer, no doubt.   :aok
Title: Re: Yak cockpit
Post by: Gixer on June 19, 2013, 09:17:25 PM
Brewster B-239 was not voted in. 

That's because no one expected HT to give us a hot rod version of the Brew beyond belief with it's performance. If they'd known then nearly everyone would of voted for it.


<S>...-Gixer