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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Midway on June 17, 2013, 11:26:33 AM
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and a great contributor. Nuff said. :aok
:salute Badboy :rock
PS: No need for anyone to respond... just making sure all know the truth.
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you sure?
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you sure?
I would not have made the statement if I wasn't. The proof is in the pudding as well as from my own knowledge and interaction. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2314;sa=showPosts
I don't intend for this to be a long discussion since the evidence is overwhelmingly obvious, but ignored by so many.
I challenge anyone to click on any of the 60 pages of his posts and tell me you don't learn something of value on every page of 15 posts and that you can't see how much awesome knowledge, insight and good he has brought to Aces High. :salute
If I had room for one more Fighter Pilot Hero, Badboy would be it. :rock
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well, there will be some that have known "badboy" a long time that will say different... people that have experience in dealing with him... just sayin...
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I think Midway is Tim McGraw's shade!
The resemblance in word selection is uncanny! :uhoh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_auxcCagHI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_auxcCagHI)
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Step into my world of imagination 40 Watt, a world of extrapolation and deduction and let's work the timeline together:
<Long intake of breath>
Zippy hunts you down in MA, you duel, he claims ownership, you deny, you request film, he posts film, you said you nearly had him, nay says he, view the film, all can see, dangled a sucker shot, did get to fire your guns but, pwned like a sucker. Cobblers says you. K? K.
Along comes Shida. Aha! says I, interesing ACM, seen it before, exactly the same in Badboy's "Don't get in a flap" thread. Perfect match, same pilot, very very obvious and unmistakable to ACM students everywhere. Therefore Zippy = Badboy, and since Zippy also = DozyDuck, Rufio, Gundog, whatever, Badboy = DozyDuck et al. Q.E.D.
Now just pause here for a second and summarize:
Zippy said he pwned you, provided film of pwning and gloated and smack talked you on the strength of it. Bragging rights you see, you should comprehend this part. Remember this and whom it serves...
Now, AFTER my accusation, RIGHT after, what does Zippy do? Sudden U-turn: 'ah well no you see, wasn't my film after all, I think Badboy gave me that one actually, it was just an example film of how I did it'.
Now HERE IS THE CRUCIAL QUESTION (and the nail in the coffin): whose agenda does it serve for Gunzo / Zippy to make this U-turn? To disclaim this film? It isn't his, because: he just gave up his bragging rights and proof that he pwned you, made himself look like a liar and a complete arse for posting a bogus film. Why would he admit to that? THERE IS NOTHING IN THAT ACTION FOR HIM.
This of course is because they are one and the same person. The ONLY evidential connection between Zippy and Badboy is the identical ACM shown in both films. One made by Badboy and one made by Zippy (for the reasons previously mentioned).
In order to refute my accusation the connection between the ACM shown in the film must be broken or detached from one of them. It can't be detached from Badboy's forum account because it's been there for years for all to see. The only place the connection can be broken is Zippy's end. Therefore Zippy dissavows the film, and even claims it was given to him by Badboy (hence feebly trying to suggest another reason for the similarity of ACM).
This doesn't further Zippy's agenda it furthers Badboy's shade account activities under the name of Zippy, Gunzo, DozyDuck, Rufio etc. Therefore Gunzo is ALSO Badboy's forum account, Zippy is ALSO his online account and if Zippy is, then so is DozyDuck, Rufio, Nacho, Hotdog etc. etc. He has incriminated himself by suspiciously disowning the Zippy film and has NOW EVEN REMOVED THE MOVIE FILE UPLOADED UNDER GUNZO'S FORUM ACCOUNT.
I KNEW HE'D DO THAT, this line was all he could think of in a hurry, his ego trapped him into posting that film and I downloaded the film myself in anticipation of him removing it and here it is for everyones convenience:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gf58sg99gds0q57/MidwayKill.mpg
Yes, yes, oh yeah, can you feel that buddy? Huh? Huh? Huh? I have exorcised the demons, this house is clear.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BU1vIVIvob0/TyxHhV75LoI/AAAAAAAADaQ/KNC88LbF1ZQ/s1600/Ace+Ventura+diddly+yeah.gif)
Closing remarks: your evidence Midway isn't evidence at all but character reference and everbody else supplied only opinion. Your testomony about it not being you in the film can be dismissed (even I can see it's you and I haven't fought you for half a year) because you instantly fall in love with any player in Aces High who has ACM which is superior to yours and you can't understand and you make them an FPH to denote this fact. The moment I suggested it was Badboy you instantly fell in love with him, jumped to his defense, started a new thread to protect his 'good character' and did your own U-turn like a spineless feeble-minded worm.
Now I beg you do not speak to me for at least six months or until you get a new lightbulb. Sniff.
Ok, Nrshida... to not hijack any other threads or further discuss your Badboy and Gunzo/Zippy theory anywhere else with you, I've moved my quoting of your post into this one.
First, know this... I have great respect for you, likely far more than you have for me, but I'm fine with that. You, NrShida, are an awesome person, a fun Aces High pilot, and words escape me as to how much appreciation I have for you. If I've offended you in any way in the past, present, or future... I hereby humbly and sincerely and publicly apologize. :salute
As to Gunzo/Zippy...
I don't perfectly recall the one DA fight now. It's been too many days. I took it casual having no idea this guy was going to make a big deal out of it and go back to the MA after a single duel to brag. Had I known, I think I could have beaten him by focusing a bit more. I thought I hit him pretty good, the film shows no hits... which is why I don't believe that is the film of Zippy vs me. I could be wrong since I've had many fights with others since and memories tend to get mixed together. Note that it is not an .ahf but a movie so I can't tell and find it odd that Gunzo would not have posted the ahf file. He said he did not film the sortie and since I didn't either, I can't say much more than that.
Badboy, in every interaction I've had with him is awesome, nice, thoughtful, and just plain good. All his 60 pages of posts are good, many are awesome good and even legendary in terms of training value.
My read of Gunzo's posts are the opposite... I've already shown you quotes from both people and how night and day they are. Yet you ignore that obvious evidence of human nature and character exposed in each of their posts.
I'm 100% sure Gunzo is Zippy. Gunzo said things only Zippy would know from our MA fight
But, Zippy also made quite the mistake when he claimed I was in a Spit16... which I wasn't. How could someone as experienced as Badboy make such a mistake? We were in Spit8s or Spit9s.
If anyone can prove to me that I'm wrong, and that Zippy/Gunzo is Badboy I will reduce my posting on BBS and ch200 to no more than one per week for the rest of this year. Since you know I like to talk... that is a significant penalty I will submit myself to for being wrong.
I can not be more certain that I'm right though about the fact that Badboy is not Gunzo/Zippy.
I've given you all my research and evidence and highly credible character witnesseses testified as well. I won't repeat it all here.
Just take this with you... you have no facts. You weren't in the DA with me. You throw out your theory, resulting hardcore disparagement and character impugnation based entirely on loose assumptions regarding one short film showing one commonly used technique... and your apparent (and biased) history of bottled up emotions re your false supposition that Badboy is bad and therefore Gunzo must be Badboy.
It is wrong, imho, for you who laments "grown men, flaming, griefing, mocking and judging others" in this thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349964.0.html to do EXACTLY what you complain about. It is the definition of hypocrisy.
You owe Badboy an apology for having no facts to support such egregious behavior on the part of a trainer who has and still does contribute so much to so many.
Re-read your own two posts and think about how lose your facts are and how severe your accusations are:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625003.html#msg4625003 :huh
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625597.html#msg4625597 :huh
Badboy is good... he is very good... and he is awesome in the amount of real knowledge he contributes to Aces High.... far in excess of your contribution... which is far in excess of mine in terms of training others.
You are wrong in your Gunzo theory, baring fact based evidence to the contrary.
Nrshida... if you have no facts to make such accusations... please... with all due respect...
apologize for the impugnation... and wait until you have facts before you do such a thing again... especially to one who has offered so much value to so many... and most importantly:
Consider your way. :old:
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some people fart just to smell their own stink.
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just sayin.......
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some people fart just to smell their own stink.
something tells me Midturd is looking for something a little more solid...and he won't stop til he gets it.
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Ok, Nrshida...
Midway,
That was the most well constructed post and most rational argument I have ever seen you make. I must say my respect for you has increased. I know you are following your convictions.
I am also following mine and I have determined to identify the player who creeps around in the DA in a Tempest with a second account in God Mode so he can relentlessly pick, HO and BnZ you, never getting his plane slower than yours. Taking repeated attacks until he downs anyone else that is fighting there whom he takes a dislike to. He drives players away, contributes to some leaving the game and prevents anyone from fighting anyone else while he is there. He is the worst kind of griefer. I know that is Zippy / Gunzo.
No one presently posting in any of these threads has spent longer flying at the lake as I have in the last three years. Zippy = DozyDuck = Rufio etc. There isn't any doubt in anyone that has experienced his squeeky toy antics. Same plane, same tactics, same gunnery, same ACM.
The ACM in Zippy's film I have seen before, when duelling Zippy in similar planes. It is EXACTLY the same ACM in "Badboy's don't get in a flap" thread. Exactly. You can match the approach, style and decision nodes precisely. Trust me, analysing subtle detail like this is my work. Ask other players who have duelled him. I know Debrody has, Pervert has, JunkyII has (he posted a film and made a thread entitled "the man who never lost a duel' or something like that.
BECAUSE of YOUR post, I have realised there is one small possibility I had not considered: the pilot in Badboy's "Don't get into a flap" thread ISN'T Badboy.
If it isn't, then Zippy Dozyduck, et al. ISN'T Badboy. It is THAT pilot instead.
However, Badboy must know who that is, and either doesn't care about my accusations or is protecting this player. I do not know anything of Badboy's behaviour before I joined AH. I have spoken to him, I have fought him under the Badboy callsign and he was always nice and civil to me also.
If Badboy names this pilot OR an old hand in the AH community identifies this pilot I will apologize to Badboy for accusing him of being Zippy, DozyDuck et al.
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I think we found out in the other thread the dot wingman griefer is actually TC disappointing to say the least.
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Midway,
That was the most well constructed post and most rational argument I have ever seen you make. I must say my respect for you has increased...
However, Badboy must know who that is, and either doesn't care ...
If Badboy names this pilot ...
Thank you, Nrshida.
I will leave this thread now with these final words, pulled from one of Badboy's posts which may explain why he hasn't said anything...
"please don't get too involved in threads like this, they really are just a waste of time that could be better spent honing your skills"
"Regards
Badboy"
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Thank you, Nrshida.
I will leave this thread now with these final words, pulled from one of Badboy's posts which may explain why he hasn't said anything...
"please don't get too involved in threads like this, they really are just a waste of time that could be better spent honing your skills"
"Regards
Badboy"
Well said. Words of wisdom indeed.
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heaps better than stenders....
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If it isn't, then Zippy Dozyduck, et al. ISN'T Badboy. It is THAT pilot instead.
If you're referring to TC...I doubt it. I've known Johnny a long time, have flown with him for several years and know him to nothing other than a stand up guy and member of the community.
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Someone needs to buy Middy a lifetime supply of Chap-Stick. Those lips must be raw by now...
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Someone needs to buy Middy a lifetime supply of Chap-Stick. Those lips must be raw by now...
No need to. Tug on his ears and KY squirts out his nose.
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No need to. Tug on his ears and KY squirts out his nose.
That is officially the funniest thing that I have heard all day. :aok
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If you're referring to TC...I doubt it. I've known Johnny a long time, have flown with him for several years and know him to nothing other than a stand up guy and member of the community.
TC
TequilaC
DamnedTC
mojorsin
MoJoRiZn
Lizking
Mighty1
Mighty01
Jamie
VlPER
and about 3 or 4 others I am not gonna say who they are............... hint: you thought they were badz (AW)/Badboy(AH) for at least a 6 months to 2 years or more...... I do appreciate the laughs though..hahaha
<S>
TC
Well I would be inclined to trust my source on this that MoJoRiZn was dot wingmaning people in MW to go hunt them down. Nacho done the same thing to me in the MA when he lost badly in our duel and I mocked him afterwards by telling him he wasn't good enough and to go practice. Came looking me in an obsure area of the map in a Temp. Not that I'm hard to find always flying a d9, shida conducted a few experiments in the DA furball map changing planes and skins in a crowd and the shade always made a beeline for him.
As a trainer he has a couple of accounts for free, I would say a second PC is most certaintely likely too, he certainely seems fond of shades and I'm surprised he is able to talk to himself on the bbs, I can remember someone getting instantly banned for doing the same thing.
Here he is talking about himself
one error I see is that TC has 5 wabbits won going down through the months, but only is listed as a total of 4 at the top in the [ ] by his name
This is him calling himself (TC) a lemming
whatever you lemming
And again mentioning himself
well years back AH did have advertisements on SimHQ and as TequilaChaser pointed out in the aces high for xmas thread, alot of the air combat articles written and posted at the simHQ link
I am reposting this because TC posted he originally meant to post the following in this topic
He was part of the actual review committee for these tournaments
wrong, looking back in that results thread shows baldeagle asked that drspek and krupnski redo the final and provide films since he did not feel that taking drspeks win away due to breaking the no films rule for a 2nd time in as many tournament rounds after being forewarned was a good thing for the tournament. baldeagle asked and was going to allow a rematch but drspek forfieted. baldeagle was nice enough to call it a technical forfieture due to no films
nice way to put it when leeway was given 2 to 3 times to drspek yet you call others out as "rulef**king people out of a fairly earned win" when in actuality it appears drspek did it to himself after having been warned 3 times and then given an extra chance to do a rematch on top of it all
i dont see krupnskis and irshones match being a tough job for anyone to rule on since 3 winning round films were posted by the winner of the match. if anything it will probably be a warning for not posting a losing round film that krupnski said he deleted. drspek got away with 4 times worse and was able to continue on to the finals and then even offered a second rematch to right his wrongs but he rejected the offer and baldeagle did what he had to
Gunzo quoting TC
No way!! I have no idea who Kale is, probably one of the BKs, but he could never pwn me!!
TopGunzo
Asking for training from erm himself
I would be glad to fight you some rounds TC, I was told you could show me where I am messing up. that would be great. I will look for you when I log on, Sir
salute
Mighty01
I could go on for a lot longer but can't really be bothered to, they should have the bbs set up so that at the very least once someone with 2 accounts starts logging in it reveals their ip address to show what they are up too.
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No need to. Tug on his ears and KY squirts out his nose.
:rofl
:headscratch: :uhoh
:furious :bolt:
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Pervert you make a strong case. Maybe TC's had a few too many Jose Cuervo's in his time. It's been 6-7 years since we've been squaddies so I can only vouch for the guy I knew back then.
The whole shadey business was always baffling to me, to begin with. Now we have (allegedly) people talking back and forth with themselves. TFF.
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Baffling is right :old:
And how has a shade ever affected me in game? :old:
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some people fart just to smell their own stink.
How selfish of them. I do it to share.
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:rofl
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No need to. Tug on his ears and KY squirts out his nose.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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:rofl
:headscratch: :uhoh
:furious :bolt:
Hey man after these recent events I feel I should let ya know that I'm just joking around with ya. :neener:
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Hey man after these recent events I feel I should let ya know that I'm just joking around with ya. :neener:
:) :cheers: :salute :rock
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Midway,
That was the most well constructed post and most rational argument I have ever seen you make. I must say my respect for you has increased. I know you are following your convictions.
I am also following mine and I have determined to identify the player who creeps around in the DA in a Tempest with a second account in God Mode so he can relentlessly pick, HO and BnZ you, never getting his plane slower than yours. Taking repeated attacks until he downs anyone else that is fighting there whom he takes a dislike to. He drives players away, contributes to some leaving the game and prevents anyone from fighting anyone else while he is there. He is the worst kind of griefer. I know that is Zippy / Gunzo.
No one presently posting in any of these threads has spent longer flying at the lake as I have in the last three years. Zippy = DozyDuck = Rufio etc. There isn't any doubt in anyone that has experienced his squeeky toy antics. Same plane, same tactics, same gunnery, same ACM.
The ACM in Zippy's film I have seen before, when duelling Zippy in similar planes. It is EXACTLY the same ACM in "Badboy's don't get in a flap" thread. Exactly. You can match the approach, style and decision nodes precisely. Trust me, analysing subtle detail like this is my work. Ask other players who have duelled him. I know Debrody has, Pervert has, JunkyII has (he posted a film and made a thread entitled "the man who never lost a duel' or something like that.
BECAUSE of YOUR post, I have realised there is one small possibility I had not considered: the pilot in Badboy's "Don't get into a flap" thread ISN'T Badboy.
If it isn't, then Zippy Dozyduck, et al. ISN'T Badboy. It is THAT pilot instead.
However, Badboy must know who that is, and either doesn't care about my accusations or is protecting this player. I do not know anything of Badboy's behaviour before I joined AH. I have spoken to him, I have fought him under the Badboy callsign and he was always nice and civil to me also.
If Badboy names this pilot OR an old hand in the AH community identifies this pilot I will apologize to Badboy for accusing him of being Zippy, DozyDuck et al.
Nrshida, what do you think now... after most of the facts have come out?
I say again, Badboy is a good man. A good man indeed. :aok
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Midway,
That was the most well constructed post and most rational argument I have ever seen you make. I must say my respect for you has increased. I know you are following your convictions.
I am also following mine and I have determined to identify the player who creeps around in the DA in a Tempest with a second account in God Mode so he can relentlessly pick, HO and BnZ you, never getting his plane slower than yours. Taking repeated attacks until he downs anyone else that is fighting there whom he takes a dislike to. He drives players away, contributes to some leaving the game and prevents anyone from fighting anyone else while he is there. He is the worst kind of griefer. I know that is Zippy / Gunzo.
No one presently posting in any of these threads has spent longer flying at the lake as I have in the last three years. Zippy = DozyDuck = Rufio etc. There isn't any doubt in anyone that has experienced his squeeky toy antics. Same plane, same tactics, same gunnery, same ACM.
The ACM in Zippy's film I have seen before, when duelling Zippy in similar planes. It is EXACTLY the same ACM in "Badboy's don't get in a flap" thread. Exactly. You can match the approach, style and decision nodes precisely. Trust me, analysing subtle detail like this is my work. Ask other players who have duelled him. I know Debrody has, Pervert has, JunkyII has (he posted a film and made a thread entitled "the man who never lost a duel' or something like that.
BECAUSE of YOUR post, I have realised there is one small possibility I had not considered: the pilot in Badboy's "Don't get into a flap" thread ISN'T Badboy.
If it isn't, then Zippy Dozyduck, et al. ISN'T Badboy. It is THAT pilot instead.
However, Badboy must know who that is, and either doesn't care about my accusations or is protecting this player. I do not know anything of Badboy's behaviour before I joined AH. I have spoken to him, I have fought him under the Badboy callsign and he was always nice and civil to me also.
If Badboy names this pilot OR an old hand in the AH community identifies this pilot I will apologize to Badboy for accusing him of being Zippy, DozyDuck et al.
I too have come across this same pilot as i have spent my share of time in DA lake and this pilot has had more callsigns than those listed. The first time i came across him his name was Dominus. I can guarnatee this Dominus-zippy-rufio is the same person just by his ACM and the way he duels.
I never cared enough to say anything before but it does remind me quite a lot of badboys fighting style although i havent fought badboy in so long his style was very unique and i got owned by it. I also get owned every-time I 1v1 the shade account under his new name and its very easy to tell its the same guy. coincidence? most likely...Split personality? always a possibilty lol
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Well I would be inclined to trust my source on this that MoJoRiZn was dot wingmaning people in MW to go hunt them down. Nacho done the same thing to me in the MA when he lost badly in our duel and I mocked him afterwards by telling him he wasn't good enough and to go practice. Came looking me in an obsure area of the map in a Temp. Not that I'm hard to find always flying a d9, shida conducted a few experiments in the DA furball map changing planes and skins in a crowd and the shade always made a beeline for him.
As a trainer he has a couple of accounts for free, I would say a second PC is most certaintely likely too, he certainely seems fond of shades and I'm surprised he is able to talk to himself on the bbs, I can remember someone getting instantly banned for doing the same thing.
Here he is talking about himself
This is him calling himself (TC) a lemming
And again mentioning himself
He was part of the actual review committee for these tournaments
Gunzo quoting TC
Asking for training from erm himself
I could go on for a lot longer but can't really be bothered to, they should have the bbs set up so that at the very least once someone with 2 accounts starts logging in it reveals their ip address to show what they are up too.
WTG pervert, Sir!! finally someone has taken the time to see what people can do with this bbs and have been doing to it since it's inception.....( as in how pervert has posted everything regarding any of my call signs or usernames on the bbs )
If I wanted to hide anything, do you not think I am smart enough to hide all of this from evryone?
I posted all callsigns/gameids I can remember over the years...... and yes I even held some 1 vs 1 or 3 way conversations, hoping someone would realize what this BBS and game was capable of..... now, I could have been a jerk and hid everything, my identity(s) etc.... but this has nothing to do with "Persona's" BS .......
Only thing I can guarantee is each different gameid, I used, people knew who I was, that I was TC ( or Johnny ), the reason being is because I had nothing to hide, I openly told people, mainly staffers or good friends or even squadmates......
as for pervert posting that volunteer staffers get multiple free accounts, this is completely untrue.......
not sure how many more of these type of threads exists, nor do I really care.....
I have openly and honestly always told the community who I was...... heck look at the list pervert quoted of me........
now regarding Badboy and others you have been trained by or trained with Badboy......
Badboy will never respond / reply to any of these threads, these threads are nothing but childish BS and beneath him ( my opinion of course )....... but there are several 100 players out there that fly / play similar the same way Badboy does, and with that being said, take it and look at how easy it is for anyone to have more than one ingame account or AH BBS account.......
hopefully this might open the eyes & minds of some of you........
you did good pervert, seriously........... I'm impressed
cheers
TC ( Johnny )
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i should not even reply to this but i will i have also been hunted by this person multiple times over the last few years mostly in the MW arena he is easy to pick out because he comes in at 25-30k in a spitfire dives down engine off and kills you a few years ago i was mouthy in MW and put my foot in my mouth by calling him out and i would goto DA and lose everytime to this day i still have not been able to beat him he has one move in the Da when duel go in a circle and kills it got to the point that i can pick him out in a matter of 3 secs of engagment and i started going to another area to fight knowing i cant beat him well then he started targeting me even in large groups so then i knew he was using a shade to wingman me and back in earlie summer in MW a guy named sharky shows up and starts his same old stuff i knew it was him and about 2 weeks to amonth later in LW i kept getting killed by zippy in a tempest and it fooled me because he always flew the spit so after i went back a few times and just kept dieing i knew zippy was not knew well i did not see him for a few days then he showed back up and started killing me near a furball base with lots of poeple so i started upping different planes diff skins and still he could pick me outa 15-20 planes i knew then i was being targeted so when i died i looked on channel in the tower i was at and saw sharky so i just set in tower for quite some time and watch him to see if he was staying there and he was so i kept typing .f zippy to see if he was still on and he was well sharky finally logged and zippy logged with him so i went back to flying and had fun .. but over the last 3 years i could not tell you all the names he has killed me with but it is what it is.
Farticus
rufio
zippy
sharky
dozyduck
dominus
and the list is much bigger but i cant remember them all
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i should not even reply to this but i will i have also been hunted by this person multiple times over the last few years mostly in the MW arena he is easy to pick out because he comes in at 25-30k in a spitfire dives down engine off and kills you a few years ago i was mouthy in MW and put my foot in my mouth by calling him out and i would goto DA and lose everytime to this day i still have not been able to beat him he has one move in the Da when duel go in a circle and kills it got to the point that i can pick him out in a matter of 3 secs of engagment and i started going to another area to fight knowing i cant beat him well then he started targeting me even in large groups so then i knew he was using a shade to wingman me and back in earlie summer in MW a guy named sharky shows up and starts his same old stuff i knew it was him and about 2 weeks to amonth later in LW i kept getting killed by zippy in a tempest and it fooled me because he always flew the spit so after i went back a few times and just kept dieing i knew zippy was not knew well i did not see him for a few days then he showed back up and started killing me near a furball base with lots of poeple so i started upping different planes diff skins and still he could pick me outa 15-20 planes i knew then i was being targeted so when i died i looked on channel in the tower i was at and saw sharky so i just set in tower for quite some time and watch him to see if he was staying there and he was so i kept typing .f zippy to see if he was still on and he was well sharky finally logged and zippy logged with him so i went back to flying and had fun .. but over the last 3 years i could not tell you all the names he has killed me with but it is what it is.
Farticus
rufio
zippy
sharky
dozyduck
dominus
and the list is much bigger but i cant remember them all
There is no better way to learn and have fun than to repeatedly fight someone you can't beat. :old:
Be thankful for pilots of such awesome skill that you can not win one DA duel. :old:
Be thankful they don't get bored of you and refuse to fight you. :old:
Find him, fight him, keep at it until you figure it out. :old:
Awesome skill is awesome. :old:
Let it be known. :old:
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i should not even reply to this but i will i have also been hunted by this person multiple times over the last few years mostly in the MW arena he is easy to pick out because he comes in at 25-30k in a spitfire dives down engine off and kills you a few years ago i was mouthy in MW and put my foot in my mouth by calling him out and i would goto DA and lose everytime to this day i still have not been able to beat him he has one move in the Da when duel go in a circle and kills it got to the point that i can pick him out in a matter of 3 secs of engagment and i started going to another area to fight knowing i cant beat him well then he started targeting me even in large groups so then i knew he was using a shade to wingman me and back in earlie summer in MW a guy named sharky shows up and starts his same old stuff i knew it was him and about 2 weeks to amonth later in LW i kept getting killed by zippy in a tempest and it fooled me because he always flew the spit so after i went back a few times and just kept dieing i knew zippy was not knew well i did not see him for a few days then he showed back up and started killing me near a furball base with lots of poeple so i started upping different planes diff skins and still he could pick me outa 15-20 planes i knew then i was being targeted so when i died i looked on channel in the tower i was at and saw sharky so i just set in tower for quite some time and watch him to see if he was staying there and he was so i kept typing .f zippy to see if he was still on and he was well sharky finally logged and zippy logged with him so i went back to flying and had fun .. but over the last 3 years i could not tell you all the names he has killed me with but it is what it is.
Farticus
rufio
zippy
sharky
dozyduck
dominus
and the list is much bigger but i cant remember them all
I was able to beat him about 1 out of every 5 times lol and it felt good, guy was a huge pr*** though i didnt even want to fight him
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:noid
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Pervert you make a strong case. Maybe TC's had a few too many Jose Cuervo's in his time. It's been 6-7 years since we've been squaddies so I can only vouch for the guy I knew back then.
The whole shadey business was always baffling to me, to begin with. Now we have (allegedly) people talking back and forth with themselves. TFF.
The voices in my head, make them stop!
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Define the term "skill".
Define a "good man".
Now define a deliriously insane troll.
;)
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Now define a deliriously insane troll.
:O :OI know coombz? :D
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Define the term "skill".
Define a "good man".
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Fight Badboy and you'll have your definition of skill... although, you are probably the definition of skill yourself as well.
Talk to Badboy and have him help you work on your weak areas, and you'll have your definition of a good man... although, having spent much time with you myself and ignoring the occasional moment(s) of weakness, you are probably the definition of a good man as well. :aok
:salute Badboy :rock
:salute Debrody :rock
<3
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i should not even reply to this but i will i have also been hunted by this person multiple times over the last few years mostly in the MW arena he is easy to pick out because he comes in at 25-30k in a spitfire dives down engine off and kills you a few years ago i was mouthy in MW and put my foot in my mouth by calling him out and i would goto DA and lose everytime to this day i still have not been able to beat him he has one move in the Da when duel go in a circle and kills it got to the point that i can pick him out in a matter of 3 secs of engagment and i started going to another area to fight knowing i cant beat him well then he started targeting me even in large groups so then i knew he was using a shade to wingman me and back in earlie summer in MW a guy named sharky shows up and starts his same old stuff i knew it was him and about 2 weeks to amonth later in LW i kept getting killed by zippy in a tempest and it fooled me because he always flew the spit so after i went back a few times and just kept dieing i knew zippy was not knew well i did not see him for a few days then he showed back up and started killing me near a furball base with lots of poeple so i started upping different planes diff skins and still he could pick me outa 15-20 planes i knew then i was being targeted so when i died i looked on channel in the tower i was at and saw sharky so i just set in tower for quite some time and watch him to see if he was staying there and he was so i kept typing .f zippy to see if he was still on and he was well sharky finally logged and zippy logged with him so i went back to flying and had fun .. but over the last 3 years i could not tell you all the names he has killed me with but it is what it is.
This may well be the single longest written sentence in human history.
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How selfish of them. I do it to share.
Yours smell like latex and shame. :huh
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:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh Please make this post stop! :mad: :mad: :huh :huh :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
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Fought with badboy. Fear the tempest bigho.
Talked with him too. "I am the biggest and the best ever, so as my e-noodle, you all suck and you all suck, also forgot to say, you all fin suck."
Who is having fun in ruining everyone elses PRIVATE fun in the DA, after being asked several times NOT to do this, is a worthless one.
Go, continue licking his boot. Theres a saying where i live, in a lousy translation: you can identify the bird by its feathers and the man by his friends.
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hey back in the '90s wasn't there a Badboy in AW that got booted multiple times for having more "e" than the game should give ya? is this the same guy you all speak of here?
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hey back in the '90s wasn't there a Badboy in AW that got booted multiple times for having more "e" than the game should give ya? is this the same guy you all speak of here?
Badboy flew AW but he is not a cheat.. hes just an amazinhunk
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Badboy flew AW but he is not a cheat.. hes just an amazinhunk
aye copy that :airplane:
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Badboy flew AW but he is not a cheat.. hes just an amazinhunk
he is amazing for sure
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I was sitting here reading this thread and felt I entered an alternate universe or something, had to slap myself to reality, I feel dumber for having read this.......
HL
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I dueled Rufio about 3 years ago....good name drop.
He was a great stick and was better then me but he said he wouldn't lose any 1v1. He lost the first in rolling scissors then the fights went to flat turns which I was always garbage at. The ones I won I kept reseting the fight to get into scissors.
Long time ago, wish I could 1v1 half that well. I'm a baby seal in the arena now 1v1
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He loves the attention BTW...it feeds his shady-shade ego. He's a punk.
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spoke to him on TS last night sounds like a very nice guy!
You muppets and your pitchforks whatever next.
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spoke to him on TS last night sounds like a very nice guy!
You muppets and your pitchforks whatever next.
lol, foolish boy. That's because you'd pwn him! lol
Cast thy bait elsewhere Bruv of generous women.
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spoke to him on TS last night sounds like a very nice guy!
You muppets and your pitchforks whatever next.
Spoke to you two years ago, you seemed like a nice guy. Glad you never became my CO.
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I'm glad you never joined the few because your ego is always trying to cash cheques it can't handle.
Why are you even still reading the forum? if your not playing, beats me. :salute
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Spoke to you two years ago, you seemed like a nice guy. Glad you never became my CO.
Another moment(s) of weakness of yours for which I give you my forgiveness. :aok
Cause I know you well nuff to know you're a nice person/pilot too, behind that occasional angry guy facade of yours. :)
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I'm glad you never joined the few because your ego is always trying to cash cheques it can't handle.
Why are you even still reading the forum? if your not playing, beats me. :salute
:lol :rofl :x
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:lol :rofl :x
:salute Sonic23 :rock
Can't hardly wait to duel you. :x
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Great stick, total jerk, made worse by the fact I can't beat him :joystick: :airplane: :pray :furious :ahand
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Great stick, total jerk, made worse by the fact I can't beat him :joystick: :airplane: :pray :furious :ahand
Don't let losing to great pilots cause you to become jaded, like most people that lose over and over. :old:
Be thankful they let you practice against them and don't get bored with you. :old:
:headscratch:
Consider your way. :old:
:headscratch:
Rise above. :old:
:)
PS: i tried and tried but couldn't squish that gnat of yours on my ipad. :rofl
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/gtora2/nasgsatn3mk4.gif)
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Midway must you infest the forum with fleas? MUST YOU? :mad:
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Midway must you infest the forum with fleas? MUST YOU? :mad:
After seeing TW9's and trying to squish it about five times before realizing it was in the screen, I must. :)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/gtora2/nasgsatn3mk4.gif)
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...there are several 100 players out there that fly / play similar the same way Badboy does
But there are not several hundred players that can beat me even shading in a tempest when I'm even close to being on my game.
I'm not a part of this witch hunt, but I have run across Dozy and a couple of his other shades and he is on par with badboy. Unfortunately, I have a hard time doubting Shida's conclusion.
Perhaps more reason to suspect Badz is his lack of response on these forums. Moral high ground is a great cover for someone who wants to avoid painting a picture of their personality that can be used against them at some point. Most likely a lesson learned the hard way.
As for the witch hunt, it should be Htc trying to put an end to this because it is pathetic behavior and detrimental to the game.
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But there are not several hundred players that can beat me even shading in a tempest when I'm even close to being on my game.
I'm not a part of this witch hunt, but I have run across Dozy and a couple of his other shades and he is on par with badboy. Unfortunately, I have a hard time doubting Shida's conclusion.
Perhaps more reason to suspect Badz is his lack of response on these forums. Moral high ground is a great cover for someone who wants to avoid painting a picture of their personality that can be used against them at some point. Most likely a lesson learned the hard way.
As for the witch hunt, it should be Htc trying to put an end to this because it is pathetic behavior and detrimental to the game.
You want to see Badboy's forum posts as a window into someone's personality? Here are hundreds to choose from, every single post from Badboy over many many years: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2314;sa=showPosts
I've read them all. :)
Read them and then tell me if you see any evidence of other than an awesome person, contributor, and pilot. :angel:
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What idiot dug this thread up after almost 3 months? Oh yeah, now I remember...
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I've known and flown with Badboy for many years. He's coached me, and taught me much. His contributions to Aces High are without peer. An enormous asset to the community.
If badboy wants to shade-up and kick the butts of some of our more ego driven players, all power to him....
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I've known and flown with Badboy for many years. He's coached me, and taught me much. His contributions to Aces High are without peer. An enormous asset to the community.
If badboy wants to shade-up and kick the butts of some of our more ego driven players, all power to him....
Midway has a BBS shade? Tredway? Midlite? Wideway? Midwing? I can't tell any of them apart. But they have one thing in common....lots of self-portraits with hats and jeeps.
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Widewing is good people :salute
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Widewing is good people :salute
Ok. He's just not a good judge of people. That's excusable, neither is Midway
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Ok. He's just not a good judge of people. That's excusable, neither is Midway
I'm an excellent judge of people... Badboy can play the evil villain if he wants... Don't like it, then consistently beat him 1v1.
The fact remains that in the 12 years I've been part of Aces High, badboy has never been anything but kind and helpful to me. I will not bad mouth him....
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I'm an excellent judge of people... Badboy can play the evil villain if he wants... Don't like it, then consistently beat him 1v1.
The fact remains that in the 12 years I've been part of Aces High, badboy has never been anything but kind and helpful to me. I will not bad mouth him....
And since he hasn't plagued you as he has others, it wasn't an appropriate thread for you to post in. You should have created the "Badboy is a stud and here's why i hump his ankle" thread.
Just because he hasn't treated you the way he's treated others doesn't make him a good guy. Therefore, my response stands. In the face of overwhelming evidence as to his ridonkulous behavior, you still aren't a good judge of people.
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I'm an excellent judge of people... Badboy can play the evil villain if he wants... Don't like it, then consistently beat him 1v1.
The fact remains that in the 12 years I've been part of Aces High, badboy has never been anything but kind and helpful to me. I will not bad mouth him....
if everyone E fought and got into a non stop flat turn i wouldve quit this game a long time ago, this shade (possibly badboy) cant scissor or stall fight worth a dam. hes good but
the fights were so boring he usually killed me when i broke off the flat turn.
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I've known and flown with Badboy for many years. He's coached me, and taught me much. His contributions to Aces High are without peer. An enormous asset to the community.
If badboy wants to shade-up and kick the butts of some of our more ego driven players, all power to him....
Nop. He may have contributed to AH but the fact remains that he used to vulch DA fields and use foul language on vox. How do I know? It was back when he flew as badboy and he did it to me, bighorn and others. After we complained the DA was changed to kill shooter on. Therefore the sig.
These two threads are a testament on how the rules get applied here.
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So...people are fighting over the Internet on whether or not a stranger is a good person according to them... :lol
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Nop. He may have contributed to AH but the fact remains that he used to vulch DA fields and use foul language on vox. How do I know? It was back when he flew as badboy and he did it to me, bighorn and others. After we complained the DA was changed to kill shooter on. Therefore the sig.
These two threads are a testament on how the rules get applied here.
hmmm the more i think about it, badboy seems a lot like me lol usually pretty nice but can go into egotistical A**hole mode out of nowhere lol.
who cares though
:cheers:
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And since he hasn't plagued you as he has others, it wasn't an appropriate thread for you to post in. You should have created the "Badboy is a stud and here's why i hump his ankle" thread.
Just because he hasn't treated you the way he's treated others doesn't make him a good guy. Therefore, my response stands. In the face of overwhelming evidence as to his ridonkulous behavior, you still aren't a good judge of people.
Badboy must have really ticked you off.... Assuming it was badboy.
By the way, I'll post anywhere I want, when I want and you'll just have to deal with it, youngster. I'll decide what's appropriate, and I don't give a damn if you or anyone else find's that offensive.
That said, if you guys have real evidence that badboy is being a really bad boy, present it to Dale. Otherwise, whining will not change a damn thing. Film these events and establish that he (or whoever it is) is being a major pain in the backside in the DA. Send the films to HTC. Call them. However, whining about this on the BBS won't change a thing. My experience with badboy has been all positive. If your's has been something else, then do what needs to be done. But, don't bust my horns because I have nothing bad to say about the guy.
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Badboy must have really ticked you off.... Assuming it was badboy.
By the way, I'll post anywhere I want, when I want and you'll just have to deal with it, youngster. I'll decide what's appropriate, and I don't give a damn if you or anyone else find's that offensive.
That said, if you guys have real evidence that badboy is being a really bad boy, present it to Dale. Otherwise, whining will not change a damn thing. Film these events and establish that he (or whoever it is) is being a major pain in the backside in the DA. Send the films to HTC. Call them. However, whining about this on the BBS won't change a thing. My experience with badboy has been all positive. If your's has been something else, then do what needs to be done. But, don't bust my horns because I have nothing bad to say about the guy.
:O :salute :rock
:aok
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Badboy must have really ticked you off.... Assuming it was badboy.
By the way, I'll post anywhere I want, when I want and you'll just have to deal with it, youngster. I'll decide what's appropriate, and I don't give a damn if you or anyone else find's that offensive.
That said, if you guys have real evidence that badboy is being a really bad boy, present it to Dale. Otherwise, whining will not change a damn thing. Film these events and establish that he (or whoever it is) is being a major pain in the backside in the DA. Send the films to HTC. Call them. However, whining about this on the BBS won't change a thing. My experience with badboy has been all positive. If your's has been something else, then do what needs to be done. But, don't bust my horns because I have nothing bad to say about the guy.
Actually, I got out of Badboy what we needed out of Badboy. He was exactly where I was told he would be and when he would be there and his flying, actions, and attitude were exact. However, his guard was down. He let the genie out of the bottle and he can't stuff her back in there and he knows exactly what Im speaking about. It was planned. I was shocked so if you or anyone else hear pizzed, I've said it wrong. Let me be very specific. He behaves poorly and then lies about it. Shading isn't behaving poorly and shooting people down with said shade isn't behaving poorly. Doing it and pretending that you aren't, talking to yourself on the BBS, chasing people using multiple computers with your multiple accounts (Quendi was Badboy btw) across the MA for the sake of the kamikaze kill is utterly insufficient for someone that claims to be a splendid part of the community. Hitech doesn't care about that crap...why would he, its $$$$
You certainly can post where you want...that wasn't a request. It was a mistake on your part.
Looky here...there isn't one thing HiTech would or should do about someone being a griefer and owning multiple accounts he probably pays for...and you know that. The fox is in charge of the henhouse on that.
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Badboy must have really ticked you off.... Assuming it was badboy.
By the way, I'll post anywhere I want, when I want and you'll just have to deal with it, youngster. I'll decide what's appropriate, and I don't give a damn if you or anyone else find's that offensive.
That said, if you guys have real evidence that badboy is being a really bad boy, present it to Dale. Otherwise, whining will not change a damn thing. Film these events and establish that he (or whoever it is) is being a major pain in the backside in the DA. Send the films to HTC. Call them. However, whining about this on the BBS won't change a thing. My experience with badboy has been all positive. If your's has been something else, then do what needs to be done. But, don't bust my horns because I have nothing bad to say about the guy.
ok, I m confused about why you got upset. I was not talking about your post on the rules violation. I was talking about the two threads in general which you did not start. I also dont remember telling you when and if you can post. Everything you talk about has been done. We did go to HT and probably know the results.
You been around a long time and you have seen the same complain about the same guy come up numerous times from different people. What does that tell you?
Finally, stating facts and opinions when a subject comes up, is not winning even when you dont like what is posted.
Thnx
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I'm glad you never joined the few because your ego is always trying to cash cheques it can't handle.
Why are you even still reading the forum? if your not playing, beats me. :salute
My ego? Its big.
Your level of sportsmanship is unrivalled. And you exactly know what i mean.
You gave me a reason to dislike you. Deal with it - i never forget.
I have the rights to read this BBS because i did play this game. Try taking this away, good luck.
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MY opinion on the 'guy who beats people with Basic Flight Maneuvers' is not going to be popular but here it is. I encountered this style numerous times over the years and at first I did find it annoying. Then I took a step back and asked myself why did I find it annoying. The only answer I found was that it annoyed me that I couldn't fly BFMs as well as the person.
All my 'experten' uber skills were falling foul of simple solid BFMs.
So I practiced BFMs for a short while. The next time I encountered the person I very quickly started being able to match those BFMs. I defeated those BFMs using a mix of BFMs and more complex 'uber skills'. I found that the person I was fighting discovered a new respect for my ability to overcome the challenge presented.
Just another feather in my gaming ability wings. IT was a turning point in my understanding of flight dynamics and of the pure essence of a more realistic 'air combat', albeit virtual.
I do not know if that person was badboy or not. The only times I have met a player with the name 'badboy' I have only had positive encounters.I was never griefed using multiple accounts and I believe that was because I was able to suck up my deficiencies and overcome them. I do not condone the griefing of players. I do however have respect for someone who wants to knock the arrogance out of the upper echelons of dogfighters by saying 'if you're so good, why is more simple flying defeating you?'
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well said Bat, I've never had any help from Badboy I know Kazaa did and others.
All these B-list muppets (bipolar's words not mine) need to follow Kappa's example. Put up or shut up.
:salute
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Dood, what you had to do to get that victory over a "B-lister moo-pet" :neener:
Cant wait to get back and kill some A-lister superheroes :aok
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I would class you as an A-lister Debrody and don't you forget that. :)
It is just a shame you limit yourself by flying such easymode planes such as the 190-D and 109 G6!
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Been a year since i was in a G6. The Dora is my one and only since last May. Its a shame, indeed. Nothing on earth can drag me into a Spitfire :aok
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I do however have respect for someone who wants to knock the arrogance out of the upper echelons of dogfighters by saying 'if you're so good, why is more simple flying defeating you?'
Unfortunately your arrogance-punishing superhero persona isn't what he does nor why he does it. He griefs other players to the point of leaving the arena and sometimes the game. Anyone. You just have to look sideways at him to set him off. This includes new players. And why? To soothe an arrogant and fragile ego of his own. Yes indeed, Badboy is a very good man :rolleyes:
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well said Bat, I've never had any help from Badboy I know Kazaa did and others.
All these B-list muppets (bipolar's words not mine) need to follow Kappa's example. Put up or shut up.
:salute
Do list them for us and Kappa's example. I guess I missed out.
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Unfortunately your arrogance-punishing superhero persona isn't what he does nor why he does it. He griefs other players to the point of leaving the arena and sometimes the game. Anyone. You just have to look sideways at him to set him off. This includes new players. And why? To soothe an arrogant and fragile ego of his own. Yes indeed, Badboy is a very good man :rolleyes:
I don't have a dog in this hunt but can't help but ask...does anyone have indisputable evidence that Badboy is actually the culprit behind the various shading griefer personas?
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I don't have a dog in this hunt but can't help but ask...does anyone have indisputable evidence that Badboy is actually the culprit behind the various shading griefer personas?
Yes, that would be the best way to answer the subject
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... Nothing on earth can drag me into a Spitfire :aok
I can, have, and will. I'll even pwn you in it, on occasion. :banana:
:D
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I don't have a dog in this hunt but can't help but ask...does anyone have indisputable evidence that Badboy is actually the culprit behind the various shading griefer personas?
I am certain Zippy is Gunzo. Zippy and Gunzo said things only Zippy and I know from our encounters. Gunzo has also admitted to dueling me as Zippy.
Nrshida and bighorn's claim that Gunzo is Badboy is wrong despite their insistence. Badboy and Gunzo are entirely different personalities.
Badboy: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2314;sa=showPosts :angel:
Gunzo: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=14127;sa=showPosts :huh
Plus from my encounters with both there is no way they are the same person dispite bighorns so called emailed IP address "proof".
Without indisputable evidence, the impugnation, disparagement, and besmirchment of Badboy by Nrshida and various muppets is unjustified and should be stricken from the record. :old:
Nrshida likely let his bottled up previous pwnage emotions get the best of him. :old:
Getting pwnd over and over does affect some more than others depending on their strength of character. :old:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625404.html#msg4625404 :aok
Too bad his apology only last a day. :frown:
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I can, have, and will. I'll even pwn you in it, on occasion. :banana:
Keep dreaming, trollio.
Im only interested in flying one certain aircraft.
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I don't have a dog in this hunt but can't help but ask...does anyone have indisputable evidence that Badboy is actually the culprit behind the various shading griefer personas?
Yes.
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I don't have a dog in this hunt but can't help but ask...does anyone have indisputable evidence that Badboy is actually the culprit behind the various shading griefer personas?
PM Bighorn
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Yes.
If you are referring to Bighorn's emailed IP address thingy, even Bighorn admits there is doubt saying something about a son. So Nrshida, again, you have no indisputable proof and lots of evidence pointing the other way.
Your apology to Badboy was greatly admired, your retraction of same quite disappointing given no indisputable proof provided... yet you let your accusations gush like water from a firehose. :rolleyes:
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If you are referring to Bighorn's emailed IP address thingy, even Bighorn admits there is doubt saying something about a son. So Nrshida, again, you have no indisputable proof and lots of evidence pointing the other way.
Your apology to Badboy was greatly admired, your retraction of same quite disappointing given no indisputable proof provided... yet you let your accusations gush like water from a firehouse. :rolleyes:
Bighorn is being cautious. There is no way that Badboys deranged son is as good as Badboy in the air. That's your evidence that refuse to take note of.
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Bighorn is being cautious. There is no way that Badboys deranged son is as good as Badboy in the air. That's your evidence that refuse to take note of.
Gunzo is not Badboy, unless you can prove otherwise. Read Badboy's posts and then Gunzo's. Two completely different people. Plus my own conversations with both tells me no way are they the same person. No indisputable proof saying otherwise has been provided. Being a good pilot like Gunzo is does not make him rise up to the level of Badboy. Heck, Gunzo wishes he had Badboy's knowledge, as do I.
Don't understand why some of you muppets keep insisting otherwise and offering no indisputable facts or proof. :headscratch:
But then AoMs have been known to enjoy a good troll, huh kappa? :)
Is that what you're doing, Changeup? Trying to impress kappa with this nonsense (to stay in the AoMs)? :rolleyes:
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If you are referring to Bighorn's emailed IP address thingy, even Bighorn admits there is doubt saying something about a son. So Nrshida, again, you have no indisputable proof and lots of evidence pointing the other way.
Your apology to Badboy was greatly admired, your retraction of same quite disappointing given no indisputable proof provided... yet you let your accusations gush like water from a firehouse. :rolleyes:
You really don't know what you're talking about.
Why are you talking to me anyway, I thought we mutually agreed we didn't care what the other thought?
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I think I see whats happening here
http://www.midwaylaw.com/ (http://www.midwaylaw.com/)
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:rofl
Midway's getting so worked up he's screwing his analogies up. Firemen use a fire hose to deliver water. They park their equipment in a firehouse.
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Gunzo is not Badboy, unless you can prove otherwise. Read Badboy's posts and then Gunzo's. Two completely different people. Plus my own conversations with both tells me no way are they the same person. No indisputable proof saying otherwise has been provided. Being a good pilot like Gunzo is does not make him rise up to the level of Badboy. Heck, Gunzo wishes he had Badboy's knowledge, as do I.
Don't understand why some of you muppets keep insisting otherwise and offering no indisputable facts or proof. :headscratch:
But then AoMs have been known to enjoy a good troll, huh kappa? :)
Is that what you're doing, Changeup? Trying to impress kappa with this nonsense (to stay in the AoMs)? :rolleyes:
As I told Quendi, Gunzo, Sharky, and BigBlue while dueling them...I have no issue losing. None. I film it, watch it and try to learn something from it...I have an issue with griefers.
What is funny is that the only person you haven't alienated yourself from in the game that can help you is Badboy and he's a punk. The very same one you defend. What does that say about you? Even some of your FPH's wish they weren't on your list, lol and I don't see any of them giving you "lessons" or help. I see them kicking you around the DA but only when you shade as Theta.
Consider your ways Midway...you are who you run with.
PS - One bedroom apartments are lonely I bet...not very much room for a roommate or relative.
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:rofl
Midway's getting so worked up he's screwing his analogies up. Firemen use a fire hose to deliver water. They park their equipment in a firehouse.
Fixed (dang iPhone). :D
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You really don't know what you're talking about.
Why are you talking to me anyway, I thought we mutually agreed we didn't care what the other thought?
Well, fact is I like you. You're a good pilot/person. You are kind and generous. All traits I also see in Badboy. If someone attacked your character unjustly as you have Badboy's I would likely defend you as strongly as well. Why? Well, that is a good question. I suppose I just have a strong will to help right wrongs, especially for people that have been nice and kind to me. TC posting on this issue brought all this up again. I suppose it's time to let it go, again. I've said what I needed to say, given facts and refuted false accusations against someone I respect very much.
:salute Nrshida
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Midway where were you last night when your FPH was doing his best to defend the homeland!
Disappointing to say the least. :(
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Midway where were you last night when your FPH was doing his best to defend the homeland!
Disappointing to say the least. :(
I registered at ahevents website a couple of weeks ago and it said my registration was successful and I would be emailed orders/instructions. No email ever came so I guessed I wasn't welcome due to my somewhat controversial recent actions and that some don't like me. Which is ok with me. If the powers that be want to send me an email with what to do, I will do what I can. If not, I have lots of fun flying in the MA too. :aok
I hope the British won. :cheers:
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forget that you need to login to the SEA arena Saturday 14th 2:45pm EST sharp!
I will advise you orders then. Stick a reminder in your I-phone thingy ma jig or do I need to Tweet you with an hour reminder??? :rolleyes:
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I hope the British won. :cheers:
The gallant Allies suffered a devastating loss, and London was bombed to cinders...all because we were one pilot short. :mad:
Just kidding...it's a 4 frame event. Be in the SEA by 2:30...2:45 at the latest next Saturday. Check your name on the roster and be sure you're flying for the right side. If you aren't tagged with a squad affiliation, track down Stellar or Bruv.
Now back to the witch hunt. :bolt:
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... you need to login to the SEA arena Saturday 14th 2:45pm EST sharp!
Yes, Sir. :salute
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Well, fact is I like you. You're a good pilot/person. You are kind and generous. All traits I also see in Badboy. If someone attacked your character unjustly as you have Badboy's I would likely defend you as strongly as well. Why? Well, that is a good question. I suppose I just have a strong will to help right wrongs, especially for people that have been nice and kind to me. TC posting on this issue brought all this up again. I suppose it's time to let it go, again. I've said what I needed to say, given facts and refuted false accusations against someone I respect very much.
:salute Nrshida
Much as I'd love to have a rational discussion with you on this topic Midway, I know I can't because we can't even agree on basic terms and I know you have faith. Faith that your FPHs can do no wrong. It's not possible to have a rational discussion with people that have faith.
Were you past this point you might question yourself why I am insistent on this accusation. Contrary to your statement I do not believe I have ever complained about being outflown by a superior cartoon pilot. If that statement is true then surely my behaviour is indeed a riddle to you.
I have grown through this experience. I have seen some dark facets to human behaviour I could have lived without knowing. All this fuss however, all this storm, really is just in a tiny teacup. My conclusions to this experience: this virtual environment HTC provides, this flight simulator, in which and on which this game is played really has no significance at all from a certain perspective. Just play the game. Do not extract self-esteem from it, do not be spiteful and cruel to other players, do not extract man-points or think you are doing anything externally meaningful. Contain your own personal problems and try to grow in the game as you do in real life.
Ultimately the only fight worth fighting is against yourself.
:salute Midway
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Much as I'd love to have a rational discussion with you on this topic Midway, I know I can't because we can't even agree on basic terms and I know you have faith. Faith that your FPHs can do no wrong. It's not possible to have a rational discussion with people that have faith.
Were you past this point you might question yourself why I am insistent on this accusation. Contrary to your statement I do not believe I have ever complained about being outflown by a superior cartoon pilot. If that statement is true then surely my behaviour is indeed a riddle to you.
I have grown through this experience. I have seen some dark facets to human behaviour I could have lived without knowing. All this fuss however, all this storm, really is just in a tiny teacup. My conclusions to this experience: this virtual environment HTC provides, this flight simulator, in which and on which this game is played really has no significance at all from a certain perspective. Just play the game. Do not extract self-esteem from it, do not be spiteful and cruel to other players, do not extract man-points or think you are doing anything externally meaningful. Contain your own personal problems and try to grow in the game as you do in real life.
Ultimately the only fight worth fighting is against yourself.
:salute Midway
I believe in facts, not faith. Baring indisputable facts to the contrary, I believe in the facts I have observed with my own two eyes, of which there are many, and my rational mind.
Again, you have offered no indisputable facts and therefore your impugning Badboy's character is irrational and not fact based. Your jumping to conclusions using circumstances and guesses. Your apology clearly shows that.
You then relying on Bighorn's email the next day to rationalize and support your original accusations which Bighorn himself has said is potentially tainted due to a son, for example, tells me you still have no indisputable facts to besmirch Badboy's awesome contributions to all of us.
I feel like I'm :bhead with you, which is disappointing as well. If you think about it rationally and review your own apology, you might see the light. Hopefully. :)
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I believe in facts, not faith.
Respectfully Midway, your and my definition of the word 'facts' differ, this is why it is better to cease the discussion.
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I believe in facts, not faith. Baring indisputable facts to the contrary, I believe in the facts I have observed with my own two eyes, of which there are many, and my rational mind.
Gunzo is not Badboy, unless you can prove otherwise. Read Badboy's posts and then Gunzo's. Two completely different people. Plus my own conversations with both tells me no way are they the same person.
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C'mon dude. You of all people should know that when you shade, you don't keep the same typing pattern.
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Nrshida and bighorn's claim that Gunzo is Badboy is wrong despite their insistence. Badboy and Gunzo are entirely different personalities.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. All anyone can say is that we have had good encounters with a player by the name of 'badboy' who may or may not use other names to be a different person who many of us have had negative encounters with. Badboy may or may not also fly under Gunzo. All we have is speculation.
If there is one person I would put my faith in around here to know what they are talking about it would be bighorn. So making blanket statements that those two are wrong is probably unwise.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. All anyone can say is that we have had good encounters with a player by the name of 'badboy' who may or may not use other names to be a different person who many of us have had negative encounters with. Badboy may or may not also fly under Gunzo. All we have is speculation.
If there is one person I would put my faith in around here to know what they are talking about it would be bighorn. So making blanket statements that those two are wrong is probably unwise.
Then if one of them (Nrshida) is going to go on a diatribe with wild accusations to the point of Nrshida saying HTC should sue Badboy for lost revenue, etc... they should first put up indisputable facts in support of same, and not base accusations on guesses and suppositions. Nrshida realized this and apologized which was the right thing to do, but it only lasted a day.
If they have indisputable facts then they should show them to HTC, but Nrshida or anyone should not post severe accusations without indisputable proof... or if they do, at least apologize for the mistake which can cause harm to a great contributor's, in the eyes of many, reputation.
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I don't have a dog in this hunt but can't help but ask...does anyone have indisputable evidence that Badboy is actually the culprit behind the various shading griefer personas?
Yes, and it's far more than just a guess; barely less than a smoking gun.
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Then if one of them (Nrshida) is going to go on a diatribe with wild accusations to the point of Nrshida saying HTC should sue Badboy for lost revenue, etc... they should first put up indisputable facts in support of same, and not base accusations on guesses and suppositions. Nrshida realized this and apologized which was the right thing to do, but it only lasted a day.
If they have indisputable facts then they should show them to HTC, but Nrshida or anyone should not post severe accusations without indisputable proof... or if they do, at least apologize for the mistake which can cause harm to a great contributor's, in the eyes of many, reputation.
Please do not presume to know what I am thinking. The reason I apologized was ironically because of listening to you. There was one slim possibility that it wasn't Badboy, and that was that it was TC, who I know Badboy has used as the pilot in some of his training videos.
HTC either does not care or cannot do anything about it. Skuzzy was looking for this individual for a long time and has been supplied with film as requested on several occasions. At first I was told abusing dot wingman and god mode was considered 'gaming the game'. Later I was told there was nothing that could be done because technically it isn't cheating. I was advised to fly elsewhere and this is in fact what I decided to do.
I will fight anyone but the fact is Badboy's antics are to prevent anyone else from fighting.
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Yes, and it's far more than just a guess; barely less than a smoking gun.
Many people have held smoking guns and weren't guilty, but instead just circumstantially implicated. :old:
Show it to HTC, if there is any truth to it and it is as bad as Nrshida says, let them resolve it. If you have already shown it and HTC says there is no violation, then refrain from publicly impugning someone, especially when they have done so much good for so many. That would be the right and proper thing to do. :aok
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Please do not presume to know what I am thinking. The reason I apologized was ironically because of listening to you. There was one slim possibility that it wasn't Badboy, and that was that it was TC, who I know Badboy has used as the pilot in some of his training videos.
HTC either does not care or cannot do anything about it. Skuzzy was looking for this individual for a long time and has been supplied with film as requested on several occasions. At first I was told abusing dot wingman and god mode was considered 'gaming the game'. Later I was told there was nothing that could be done because technically it isn't cheating. I was advised to fly elsewhere and this is in fact what I decided to do.
I will fight anyone but the fact is Badboy's antics are to prevent anyone else from fighting.
That's all fine, Nrshida. The problem is you then also decided to post several vitriolic public accusations with no indisputable proof in support of same against one of our best contributors. I doubt HTC suggested you do that as well.
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I don't work for HTC and I think for myself. You should try it.
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I don't work for HTC and I think for myself. You should try it.
I do think for myself, ergo my response to your factually unsupported accusations. :)
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I do think for myself, ergo my response to your factually unsupported accusations. :aok
You believe first and find supportive counterfactual anecdotes later.
Edifying and entertaining as these little exchanges are, you have no more hope of convincing me than I have you and in fact as stated previously I do not care to convince you. I'm not going to bicker over this. My work is done here. Think what you want, that's entirely up to you :aok
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You believe first and find supportive counterfactual anecdotes later.
Edifying and entertaining as these little exchanges are, you have no more hope of convincing me than I have you and in fact as stated previously I do not care to convince you. I'm not going to bicker over this. My work is done here. Think what you want, that's entirely up to you :aok
Well, we've been around this twice now and landed on the same let's part ways place. See you in the MA, can't wait to show you some of what I've learned from Badboy (and others). :joystick: :D
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Many people have held smoking guns and weren't guilty, but instead just circumstantially implicated. :old:
Show it to HTC, if there is any truth to it and it is as bad as Nrshida says, let them resolve it. If you have already shown it and HTC says there is no violation, then refrain from publicly impugning someone, especially when they have done so much good for so many. That would be the right and proper thing to do. :aok
You are incredibly dense. As you have already been told, likely countless times...
First, there is no violation, because as far as I know, there are no rules against the behavior that has been described with the exception of some vague rules against harassing other players.
Second, it has been reported and by all common sense judgement the behavior is WRONG!!!!!!!!!! AND YOU, you tiny little ankle humper, have even agreed that it is wrong by the mere fact that you have never disputed that the behavior itself is wrong. You have merely defended the accused to protect him from the negative public consequences of having others believe he was guilty.
Third htc doesnt care. If they did, they could easily witness and identify this shade barring the accused having access to countless false IDs and credit accounts.
And as for irrefutable proof, this shade is undeniably very good. So good, that when some of the best sticks in the game begin to rule out the few people that have that kind of skill and add to that other FACTS, little doubt is left. In a court of law, that's enough to send him up the river. Especially considering your defense.
The most laughable part of yours and others arguments is that someone's most public face is the model of a good citizen so they couldn't possibly have any immoral traits. Perhaps you haven't read too much of the criminal or political world in the last couple thousand years. You are the logically challenged one without A SINGLE logical defense for your beliefs... read "he seemed like such a nice guy your honor."
I wouldn't mind seeing his name cleared, but you don't have the capacity to do it. All you have done is dredged up the accusations again so that you could put your WEAK reputation and argument, (singular because "nice guy" is all you got) up against more respectable and longer term players.
In essence, you're just digging the hole deeper.
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You are incredibly dense. As you have already been told, likely countless times...
First, there is no violation, because as far as I know, there are no rules against the behavior that has been described with the exception of some vague rules against harassing other players.
Second, it has been reported and by all common sense judgement the behavior is WRONG!!!!!!!!!! AND YOU, you tiny little ankle humper, have even agreed that it is wrong by the mere fact that you have never disputed that the behavior itself is wrong. You have merely defended the accused to protect him from the negative public consequences of having others believe he was guilty.
Third htc doesnt care. If they did, they could easily witness and identify this shade baring the accused having access to countless false IDs and credit accounts.
And as for irrefutable proof, this shade is undeniably very good. So good, that when some of the best sticks in the game begin to rule out the few people that have that kind of skill and add to that other FACTS, little doubt is left. In a court of law, that's enough to send him up the river. Especially considering your defense.
The most laughable part of yours and others arguments is that someone's most public face is the model of a good citizen so they couldn't possibly have any immoral traits. Perhaps you haven't read too much of the criminal or political world in the last couple thousand years. You are the logically challenged one without A SINGLE logical defense for your beliefs... read "he seemed like such a nice guy your honor."
I wouldn't mind seeing his name cleared, but you don't have the capacity to do it. All you have done is dredged up the accusations again so that you could put your WEAK reputation and argument, (singular because "nice guy" is all you got) up against more respectable and longer term players.
In essence, you're just digging the hole deeper.
Better to be dense with facts than empty with factually unsupported accusations. :old:
Gunzo is not Badboy until proven otherwise with indisputable facts. :old:
Gunzo has also said publicly that he is not Badboy. :old:
Gunzo is Zippy and that's the end. :old:
Let it be known. :old:
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So Midway what was the point in you reviving this thread after 2 1/2 months? I mean other than your normal attention seeking?
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So Midway what was the point in you reviving this thread after 2 1/2 months? I mean other than your normal attention seeking?
TC brought the issue up again here: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350150.msg4674926.html#msg4674926
This thread was relevant to said issue and an unjust tarnishment of a great contributor needed an appropriate response. Nrshida dragged TC and Badboy into his factually unsupported diatribe. Badboy, as I have already said has been nothing but nice and good to me. Nrshida's wrong needed to be righted. :aok
Any more questions?
PS: and no, I don't seek attention, only the occasional help from awesomely skilled pilots like Badboy to help me rise above in terms of pwnage skills. But I do admit I like to talk to my peeps also, especially when they ask questions. :)
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Better to be dense with facts than empty with factually unsupported accusations. :old:
Gunzo is not Badboy until proven otherwise with indisputable facts. :old:
Gunzo has also said publicly that he is not Badboy. :old:
Gunzo is Zippy and that's the end. :old:
Let it be known. :old:
Again, your idiocy is exposed by your understanding of the word "fact"
FACTS
Better to be dense with facts than empty with factually unsupported accusations.
1- Their are witnesses that place the accused at the scenes of the crimes.
2- There are expert opinions (established by a skill level high enough to rule out other possibilities. Yours does not qualify) that point to the accused as the guilty party.
Gunzo is not Badboy until proven otherwise with indisputable facts. :old:
3- Nor is he cleared of wrong doing without indisputable fact. Which also begs to question, why are all these shades so similar to Badz in their failure to respond to these accusations on the BBS?
Gunzo has also said publicly that he is not Badboy. :old:
4- No statement is beyond reproach and where is this "indisputable evidence" that you are so fond of and why do you not have an expectation for it before you believe his statement?
Gunzo is Zippy and that's the end.
5- Again, "indisputable facts?" Where are they? What retard is the the source of this "sworn statement?"
6- YOU HAVE NO FACTS. The opposing parties DO.
Perhaps you should consider that anything you support is dragged down 10 notches not uplifted. Your reputation and intelligence are like rust eating at the support columns.
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TC brought the issue up again here: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350150.msg4674926.html#msg4674926
This thread was relevant to said issue and an unjust tarnishment of a great contributor needed an appropriate response. Nrshida dragged TC and Badboy into his factually unsupported diatribe. Badboy, as I have already said has been nothing but nice and good to me. Nrshida's wrong needed to be righted. :aok
Any more questions?
PS: and no, I don't seek attention, only the occasional help from awesomely skilled pilots like Badboy to help me rise above in terms of pwnage skills. But I do admit I like to talk to my peeps also, especially when they ask questions. :)
I think it's great that you support him even though his teachings have had little or no effect.
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Nrshida's wrong needed to be righted. :aok
What's starting to get a little weird is your obsession in continuing to target me. I thought you already said you don't care what I think and I don't even have FPH status :headscratch:
Just do what I do, I removed you from my ignore list ages ago because I really no longer care what you think or say, I just don't consider your input meritorious in any way. Try it, it's very liberating.
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Again, your idiocy is exposed by your understanding of the word "fact"
FACTS
1- Their are witnesses that place the accused at the scenes of the crimes.
2- There are expert opinions (established by a skill level high enough to rule out other possibilities. Yours does not qualify) that point to the accused as the guilty party.
3- Nor is he cleared of wrong doing without indisputable fact. Which also begs to question, why are all these shades so similar to Badz in their failure to respond to these accusations on the BBS?
4- No statement is beyond reproach and where is this "indisputable evidence" that you are so fond of and why do you not have an expectation for it before you believe his statement?
5- Again, "indisputable facts?" Where are they? What retard is the the source of this "sworn statement?"
6- YOU HAVE NO FACTS. The opposing parties DO.
Perhaps you should consider that anything you support is dragged down 10 notches not uplifted. Your reputation and intelligence are like rust eating at the support columns.
You, Sir, are wrong. I really don't want to rehash it all again, but just to prove to you that you are factually incorrect, you can use your own eyes to see that the accused, Gunzo, did respond to the accusations of Nrshida more than once. Go to Gunzo's profile, look at his posts and you can easily see his response and denial that he is Badboy.
Here, I'll even help you: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350719.msg4635719.html#msg4635719 and
here: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625404.html#msg4625404
So for you to say there is no response is as factually incorrect as some of your other statements. Read Gunzo's posts, a supposed shade of Badboy, and tell me again that the accused has not responded. :rolleyes:
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What's starting to get a little weird is your obsession in continuing to target me. I thought you already said you don't care what I think and I don't even have FPH status :headscratch:
Just do what I do, I removed you from my ignore list ages ago because I really no longer care what you think or say, I just don't consider your input meritorious in any way. Try it, it's very liberating.
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Truth is I do care. I got frustrated and for a minute, in a moment(s) of weakness, said I didn't care what you say... but obviously I respect you too much not to care what you have to say. :salute
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Mr. Bighorn has evidence about who Gunzo is. Its the same IP as "Badboy". End of the story.
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.....he used to vulch DA fields and use foul language on vox. How do I know? It was back when he flew as badboy and he did it to me, bighorn and others. After we complained the DA was changed to kill shooter on. Therefore the sig.
These two threads are a testament on how the rules get applied here.
Ha! ya I remember that. He would vulch friendlies all the time in the DA. He IS the reason kill shooter got turned on in the DA.
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You are incredibly dense. As you have already been told, likely countless times...
Third htc doesnt care. If they did, they could easily witness and identify this shade barring the accused having access to countless false IDs and credit accounts.
+1 except for one thing. Badz does this on the weekends generally. I have films of the trick where BigBlue is in the tower Im leaving from while Sharky is taking off from the opposing base...thing is...BigBlue never leaves the tower. Now that you can identify friendlies by placing your arrow on the friendly dot, it makes finding you much easier. He was beat down by 8 friendlies who I told where he'd be and they went after him, lmao! Spit 8 at 18K above one of the biggest furballs I've seen in a while. Plus Sharky asked me in PM why the Muppets always think that someone that beat them is Badz.....good question except for the fact that I never mentioned it and the Muppets that have accused him of it plus NrShida have all looked at the films of the people they've fought so they'd know...but I never said one word about it. He brought it up. How would he know that and Sharky doesn't have a BBS account cuz I asked him! The idiot should have said yes.
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So for you to say there is no response is as factually incorrect as some of your other statements.
Only idiots speak in all or nothing terms. But the dumbest yet take every statement that way or try to use them as "winning" arguments.
I already heard about the denial and it don't mean squat.
but just to prove to you that you are factually incorrect, you can use your own eyes to see that the accused, Gunzo, did respond to the accusations of Nrshida more than once.
but just to prove you are factually ignorant, I'll let you in on a secret. People lie! And you are still without a single fact.
Tell me, what has Gunzo offered to prove who he is? What do you know about Gunzo? Where he lives? Other players he has met before? What he does for a living? Anything?
Read Gunzo's posts, a supposed shade of Badboy, and tell me again that the accused has not responded. :rolleyes:
I don't need to read it, unless of course you are trying to tell me there's something, anything, in it that proves he is who he says he is. Then I will check it out. Otherwise it's just another BB account on the internet.
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6- YOU HAVE NO FACTS. The opposing parties DO.
I couldn't care less about Badboy or Gunzo or whoever it is that has got all your panties in a bunch
However, I have been following this (vaguely) and have not seen any facts from any side, just anecdotal 'evidence'.
Just sayin'
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Only idiots speak in all or nothing terms. But the dumbest yet take every statement that way or try to use them as "winning" arguments.
I already heard about the denial and it don't mean squat.
but just to prove you are factually ignorant, I'll let you in on a secret. People lie! And you are still without a single fact.
Tell me, what has Gunzo offered to prove who he is? What do you know about Gunzo? Where he lives? Other players he has met before? What he does for a living? Anything?
I don't need to read it, unless of course you are trying to tell me there's something, anything, in it that proves he is who he says he is. Then I will check it out. Otherwise it's just another BB account on the internet.
Reread what I said where you quoted me. I clearly used the word "some" not all.
You claimed there was no response, I showed you there was, on more than one occasion.
Your own words show the flaws in your own arguments. I'm not going to reargue all this with you again. I've said what I wanted to say, and you can read all the history if you want.
Gunzo is Gunzo, that's a fact. Gunzo is Zippy, another fact. Until undisputable proof shows up, there is no factual basis for claiming Gunzo is Badboy or anyone else. The burden of proof lies with the accuser (Nrshida), not the accused (Gunzo).
:salute
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I couldn't care less about Badboy or Gunzo or whoever it is that has got all your panties in a bunch
However, I have been following this (vaguely) and have not seen any facts from any side, just anecdotal 'evidence'.
Just sayin'
Suush I'm bored and this is the best thing going ATM.
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I couldn't care less about Badboy or Gunzo or whoever it is that has got all your panties in a bunch
However, I have been following this (vaguely) and have not seen any facts from any side, just anecdotal 'evidence'.
Just sayin'
IP addresses aren't anecdotal. The excuse was someone else as good as he is plays at his house. If you buy that Coombz, you're just being boorish.
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I couldn't care less about Badboy or Gunzo or whoever it is that has got all your panties in a bunch
However, I have been following this (vaguely) and have not seen any facts from any side, just anecdotal 'evidence'.
Just sayin'
Pull your dress down off your face, sit up and pay attention then.
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IP addresses aren't anecdotal. The excuse was someone else as good as he is plays at his house. If you buy that Coombz, you're just being boorish.
I hear you, Changeup, and can see where you are jumping to your conclusion. But that fact is in dispute with even Bighorn saying its strange and it could be his son. Until it's proven, you have to give the accused the benefit of the doubt. Gunzo has clearly denied he is Badboy.
From Bighorn:
"Indeed, nothing against Badboy, a true community asset.
But then, there's a very "Strange Case of Dr Badboy and Mr Gunzo". Not that I care much about, I just can't let pitiful little troll like you vituperate an upstanding person as NrShida is. All that in favor of a person who is proven griefer, whether is that Badboy himself, or his alleged son Gunzo."
-- http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350150.msg4677803.html#msg4677803
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Midway is Gunzo's most elaborate shade yet. A bit of a lame duck alter ego to throw them off the scent.
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Midway is blind and is an idiot. I should win the nobel-price with this mindblowingly innovative observation.
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Midway is Gunzo's most elaborate shade yet. A bit of a lame duck alter ego to throw them off the scent.
oh now you did it. You are of the FPH list :old:
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I couldn't care less about Badboy or Gunzo or whoever it is that has got all your panties in a bunch
However, I have been following this (vaguely) and have not seen any facts from any side, just anecdotal 'evidence'.
Just sayin'
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I'd just like to see badboy and gunzo roll in the DA with 100% fueled spits.. Would be the longest circle jerk in AH history.. :devil
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IP addresses aren't anecdotal. The excuse was someone else as good as he is plays at his house. If you buy that Coombz, you're just being boorish.
it's anecdotal at this point because you/whoever is just saying 'they have the same IP address'
it will cease to be anecdotal when someone posts some evidence that the people in question have/had the same IP address
see how words work?
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+1 except for one thing. Badz does this on the weekends generally. I have films of the trick where BigBlue is in the tower Im leaving from while Sharky is taking off from the opposing base...thing is...BigBlue never leaves the tower.
I have film of BigBlue bullying and stalking a player (text buffer). He got others to join in and harass this player on 200 until they drove him out of the arena.
I was so sick of it I called him out on 200 for being an arse.
So...guess who he targeted next? BigBlue in a tempest began stalking me from high alt and pm'ing me. He vulched me on the runway landing and tried to get a reaction. I mentioned on 200 he must be pretty good to vulch a landing plane on the runway.
Then I upped a plane and flew around in the ack with him and about 5 other knits trying to shoot me down over and over. Occasionally flying away from ack to bait him down when it looked like he might leave. After his repeated attempts and failures I called out on 200 "you got nothing knit tempest". Finally I got bored and landed. He landed 2 kills (1 was me) which were both vulches on the runway.
THAT was when I realized BigBlue was in the tempest.
Next I up a 262 and began harassing the knits. Got into a low and slow turn fight with a D9 over the water and eventually had to break off to regroup. Right after breaking away low and slow over the water a plane swoops down and shoots me....it's BigBlue. Taunting by PMs and 200 followed. I acknowledged gracefully on 200 that he did manage to catch me low and slow after a fight. Never responded to his PMs.
Then I upped another 262 and went hunting for him but he had left the area and left me alone.
So....there's my experience with BigBlue.
My in game name is Bane.
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oh now you did it. You are of the FPH list :old:
FPH TonyJoey's skills are too awesome for this to make any sense... unlike what I've seen from you, Mr. Dedalos. Although I will admit you are pretty good and fun to fight too. Just saying. :)
:salute FPH TonyJoey :rock
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I'd just like to see badboy and gunzo roll in the DA with 100% fueled spits.. Would be the longest circle jerk in AH history.. :devil
FPH kappa has a good sense of humour too... but I already knew that. :aok
:salute FPH kappa :rock
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Is there some sort of proof that Gunzo is BigBlue? I fought BigBlue and he was nice to me and is very good. I suspect I know who he is. :cheers:
We dueled several times in Ponies. He won them all. :joystick: :banana:
Unless there is indisputable proof, why post further in this thread? Badboy is a good man and great contributor until and unless proven otherwise. :aok
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Is there some sort of way you guys could put nails on your ankles so i cant hump them anymore?
Fixed :P
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it's anecdotal at this point because you/whoever is just saying 'they have the same IP address'
it will cease to be anecdotal when someone posts some evidence that the people in question have/had the same IP address
see how words work?
Nice. I have a new word: oblivious. Let me use it in a sentence for you:
Coombz is oblivious to things that are obvious because its difficult to see clearly while his head is stuck up his azz.
Thanks for showing me how words work Coombz.
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I'd just like to see badboy and gunzo roll in the DA with 100% fueled spits.. Would be the longest circle jerk in AH history.. :devil
This is true :rofl
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Mr. Bighorn has evidence about who Gunzo is. Its the same IP as "Badboy". End of the story.
I checked the ip's they are not the same.
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I checked the ip's they are not the same.
Interesting. Very interesting indeed. :huh
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Ya, sure. And im an innocent lil pony too.
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I checked the ip's they are not the same.
How does one go about tracking/trapping an IP?
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How does one go about tracking/trapping an IP?
I didn't was just showing how easy it is to say you have 'proof in the form of an ip. You can use a pingplotter/tracer. Im guessing if they really did trace an ip they pinged to HTCs servers and got HTCS ip address, or the ip of a provider, to actually get a physical address from an ip trace you would need a court order, which I doubt anyone that claims to have 'proof' that the ip's came from the same house would have... Im with Coombz on this one looks like more of the whole 'I'm going to make this claim you guys come back me up with hot air and bluff'
EDIT: and Bluster forgot the bluster #Inb4thebluster
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I didn't was just showing how easy it is to say you have 'proof in the form of an ip. You can use a pingplotter/tracer. Im guessing if they really did trace an ip they pinged to HTCs servers and got HTCS ip address, or the ip of a provider, to actually get a physical address from an ip trace you would need a court order, which I doubt anyone that claims to have 'proof' that the ip's came from the same house would have... Im with Coombz on this one looks like more of the whole 'I'm going to make this claim you guys come back me up with hot air and bluff'
EDIT: and Bluster forgot the bluster #Inb4thebluster
Indeed :old:
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If you're gonna make a public accusation present you 'proof' publicly don't do something lame like 'pm so and so' the accusation is already public lets have your proof also publicly, the ones making the loudest noises here are the ones with out the proof just spouting hearsay and hot air.
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If you're gonna make a public accusation present you 'proof' publicly don't do something lame like 'pm so and so' the accusation is already public lets have your proof also publicly, the ones making the loudest noises here are the ones with out the proof just spouting hearsay and hot air.
:aok
:salute :rock
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:aok
:salute :rock
Can I be your FPH now?(forum poster hero)
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Can I be your FPH now?(forum poster hero)
Certainly made a step in the right direction insisting on public proof for public accusations, especially against someone who has done so much good for so many. I think it was a mistake for Nrshida to do what he did publicly, without public proof. He realized it, but only for a day.
Hopefully, after due consideration he'll either withdraw it, apologize permanently, or offer proof that Gunzo is Badboy. Badboy's good name, as well as Gunzo, deserve nothing less.
Strength of character is important. :old:
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Ya, sure. And im an innocent lil pony too.
do you even lift brah? Im expecting Skuzzy to be along shortly to rule 8 all of this nonsense.
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I didn't was just showing how easy it is to say you have 'proof in the form of an ip. You can use a pingplotter/tracer. Im guessing if they really did trace an ip they pinged to HTCs servers and got HTCS ip address, or the ip of a provider, to actually get a physical address from an ip trace you would need a court order, which I doubt anyone that claims to have 'proof' that the ip's came from the same house would have... Im with Coombz on this one looks like more of the whole 'I'm going to make this claim you guys come back me up with hot air and bluff'
EDIT: and Bluster forgot the bluster #Inb4thebluster
you are correct. You cannot trace what ip anyone connects to the game. Then again, I dont think anyone claimed they did that. Can you think of any ways to trace ips if you post at some other bbs or send emails? I can think of several ways it could be done outside of the game and AH bbs.
Here is what I find interesting. You can call some one stupid and have a thread locked (yes I am exaggerating to make a point) Here however we have a thread that was revived from 2 months ago (good reason for insta lock) people talking bad about players (more reason for a lock) Midway trolling (again no problem) and HT who has IPs and billing info could clear this up in an instant but stays quiet.
I think they are just collecting info at this point and probably polishing the ban hammer lol. There is no way all these people complain about the same guy for years for no reason. Just my opinion based on experiences with this great guy.
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do you even lift brah? Im expecting Skuzzy to be along shortly to rule 8 all of this nonsense.
Rule 10 would be more appropriate
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Ded wouldn't you need some sort of data flow to trace an ip out of the game? AIM, or something the like, and you would still need to have a court order to do it legally. Let me go find where I got the idea that someone clamed they knew the ip addrss was from the same house.
IP addresses aren't anecdotal. The excuse was someone else as good as he is plays at his house. If you buy that Coombz, you're just being boorish.
If you are referring to Bighorn's emailed IP address thingy, even Bighorn admits there is doubt saying something about a son....
Just saying they could have same providers or the 'same ip' is infact the ip from HTC.
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you are correct. You cannot trace what ip anyone connects to the game. Then again, I dont think anyone claimed they did that. Can you think of any ways to trace ips if you post at some other bbs or send emails? I can think of several ways it could be done outside of the game and AH bbs.
Here is what I find interesting. You can call some one stupid and have a thread locked (yes I am exaggerating to make a point) Here however we have a thread that was revived from 2 months ago (good reason for insta lock) people talking bad about players (more reason for a lock) Midway trolling (again no problem) and HT who has IPs and billing info could clear this up in an instant but stays quiet.
I think they are just collecting info at this point and probably polishing the ban hammer lol. There is no way all these people complain about the same guy for years for no reason. Just my opinion based on experiences with this great guy.
I've already explained this here: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350078.msg4678548.html#msg4678548
This thread is obviously relevant.
And no, I'm not trolling. Badboy has been good to me, I don't like to see someone as highly thought of, even by Bighorn and other excellent pilots, being severely impugned without an indisputable factual basis.
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IM just tired of the hypocritical witch hunts on the forums, you see the same people day in and day out insulting, blustering and shaming people for bad behavior yet in the same thread they show their azzes.
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*Snip*
Yep and a lot of the very same people complaining about so and so's bad behavior need to be banned aswell just look at some of the post histories of the lead witch hunters; insults, attempted intimidation, name calling, trolling, flamebaiting and on and on ad nauseam.
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How about me?
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How about me?
Jury is out waiting for evidence. If there are pilots good enough to analyze and recognize a pilot for playstyle shouldn't there be pilots out there good enough to emulate a certain pilots playstyle with a shade, perhaps to besmear the guys rep?
or were you asking to be Midway's FPH?
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Ded wouldn't you need some sort of data flow to trace an ip out of the game? AIM, or something the like, and you would still need to have a court order to do it legally. Let me go find where I got the idea that someone clamed they knew the ip addrss was from the same house.
Just saying they could have same providers or the 'same ip' is infact the ip from HTC.
I guess I should type before clicking post lol. Just saying there are ways outside of the game. Your ip on the internet is public info.
Look, I cant prove it. Film was not running at that time. That does not mean it did not happen. I can explain the encounters but with out film you can say they never happened. Now you are asking for paying customers that had a problem with with that guy to be baned for telling what happened to them. Your basis is what? That badboy has been nice to some? All I did was type lol and hell broke loose.
I dont really know or care who the other shades are. I can speculate based on flying style but it does not matter. I was there when it happened. Bighorn was there. Others were there. You were not.
So, I ll ask again. Why are alk these people complain about him?
Are / have these same people complained about anyone else like this?
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Don't see anything but let me just further this along, if someone did trace an ip further than an isp, or email provider that would be illegal wouldn't it, and all those that were shown this 'deeper' information would be guilty aswell maybe of something like 'theft by receiving ' or some such. So we either have people fudging the truth, confused as to exactly how much info can be gained by a simple ip trace, or someone actually dug deeper than they are legally able to and then they shared illegal info with various people, at which point it would be past the ban hammer and HTC may be legally obliged to bringing this fact to the authorities.
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Ded wouldn't you need some sort of data flow to trace an ip out of the game? AIM, or something the like, and you would still need to have a court order to do it legally. Let me go find where I got the idea that someone clamed they knew the ip addrss was from the same house.
Just saying they could have same providers or the 'same ip' is infact the ip from HTC.
Are you saying that anybody who runs a web server, or BBS, or blog needs a court order to log your IP , like let's say HTC does here? Or need a court order to do a DNS lookup of IP from which you access said services?
Let me tell you, you are wrong.
IP WHOIS info is public. If it says it's assigned to lets say Comcast, and Comcast is assigning IP from this block for residential use, then who are we to argue? right?
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Don't see anything but let me just further this along, if someone did trace an ip further than an isp, or email provider that would be illegal wouldn't it, and all those that were shown this 'deeper' information would be guilty aswell maybe of something like 'theft by receiving ' or some such. So we either have people fudging the truth, confused as to exactly how much info can be gained by a simple ip trace, or someone actually dug deeper than they are legally able to and then they shared illegal info with various people.
if it was ellegal google and yahoo would have shut down a long time ago
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Are you saying that anybody who runs a web server, or BBS, or blog needs a court order to log your IP , like let's say HTC does here? Or need a court order to do a DNS lookup of IP from which you access said services?
Let me tell you, you are wrong.
IP WHOIS info is public. If it says it's assigned to lets say Comcast, and Comcast is assigning IP from this block for residential use, then who are we to argue? right?
NO if they provide a service they will have access to your home address, however getting an email from someone then doing a trace past gmail, hot mail or whoever is their provider would need a court order and some joe schmo that plays a video game with you would not be able to access this info. If you trace an ip back to a physical home address yes its illegal, if you just trace it to an ip from a provider like Comcast, or gmail or whatever all you are proving is they have the same provider.
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Are you saying that anybody who runs a web server, or BBS, or blog needs a court order to log your IP , like let's say HTC does here? Or need a court order to do a DNS lookup of IP from which you access said services?
Let me tell you, you are wrong.
IP WHOIS info is public. If it says it's assigned to lets say Comcast, and Comcast is assigning IP from this block for residential use, then who are we to argue? right?
Post your 'proof' please, that's all Im saying lets see how ironclad it is. Its been publically cited many times but not made accessible to the public lets see it. Just curious how you managed to correlate the ip of both players(or shade whatever) also there is a disclaimer when you register for the forums, did you have whoever you emailed to obtain their IP, sign a disclaimer?
Please note that with each post, your IP address is recorded, in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted. This will only happen in the event of a major violation of this agreement and/or the forum posting rules.
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NO if they provide a service they will have access to your home address
Uh, I'm using Google services yet they don't have my address.
however getting an email from someone then doing a trace past gmail, hot mail or whoever is their provider would need a court order and some joe schmo that plays a video game with you would not be able to access this info.
Ever looked into email headers?
If you trace an ip back to a physical home address yes its illegal, if you just trace it to an ip from a provider like Comcast, or gmail or whatever all you are proving is they have the same provider.
Firstly, I don't know why you're so hellbent on home address. Nobody is mentioning that.
Secondly, what if IPs from two persons (within specific time frame) are the same, and its IP used for residential customers? Means both are from the same residence, knowing the physical location (or not) doesn't matter.
Thirdly, tracing an IP is no more illegal then lets say reverse phone number look-up. That is, it's perfectly legal.
Am I wrong here?
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I don't see what anyone could get from proving gunzo is badboy won't that just mean that you definitely know who beat you in a duel?
Why not just assume it is then move on? The dot wingman shade would never have the nuts to have a duel.
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Uh, I'm using Google services yet they don't have my address.
Ever looked into email headers?
Firstly, I don't know why you're so hellbent on home address. Nobody is mentioning that.
Secondly, what if IPs from two persons (within specific time frame) are the same, and its IP used for residential customers? Means both are from the same residence, knowing the physical location (or not) doesn't matter.
Thirdly, tracing an IP is no more illegal then lets say reverse phone number look-up. That is, it's perfectly legal.
Am I wrong here?
So basically, Nrshida makes severe accusations offering no indisputable factual proof, then you come along later trying to use IP addresses to support Nrshida? Yet you said yourself there is a question as to your 'proof' mentioning a son, and all you have is this?
Then you even opined "indeed, nothing against Badboy, a true asset to the community", your words.
So now we're back to Nrshida's severe accusations lacking hard facts.
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Uh, I'm using Google services yet they don't have my address.
Ever looked into email headers?
Firstly, I don't know why you're so hellbent on home address. Nobody is mentioning that.
Secondly, what if IPs from two persons (within specific time frame) are the same, and its IP used for residential customers? Means both are from the same residence, knowing the physical location (or not) doesn't matter.
Thirdly, tracing an IP is no more illegal then lets say reverse phone number look-up. That is, it's perfectly legal.
Am I wrong here?
I think the confusion is that he thinks the trace was to a home address instead of two people posting from the same IP
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Post your 'proof' please, that's all Im saying lets see how ironclad it is. Its been publically cited many times but not made accessible to the public lets see it. Just curious how you managed to correlate the ip of both players(or shade whatever)
Why would I tell you anything? Ask HTC.
also there is a disclaimer when you register for the forums, did you have whoever you emailed to obtain their IP, sign a disclaimer?
What that has to do with anything? Again, IPs are public information. That's how internet works.
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I don't see what anyone could get from proving gunzo is badboy won't that just mean that you definitely know who beat you in a duel?
Why not just assume it is then move on? The dot wingman shade would never have the nuts to have a duel.
I got lost 10 pages ago
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I think the confusion is that he thinks the trace was to a home address instead of two people posting from the same IP
Probably
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Uh, I'm using Google services yet they don't have my address.
Ever looked into email headers?
Firstly, I don't know why you're so hellbent on home address. Nobody is mentioning that.
Secondly, what if IPs from two persons (within specific time frame) are the same, and its IP used for residential customers? Means both are from the same residence, knowing the physical location (or not) doesn't matter.
Thirdly, tracing an IP is no more illegal then lets say reverse phone number look-up. That is, it's perfectly legal.
Am I wrong here?
OK,I am wrong on the home addy/residence thing guess I was confused on that, But im still asking how did you come to determine both ip's Im still asking for you to publically present your' proof', did you get 2 emails and do traces or what. What is your proof sofar all we have is hearsay.
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Why would I tell you anything? Ask HTC.
What that has to do with anything? Again, IPs are public information. That's how internet works.
Because youre the one being cited publicly in this thread as having the 'proof' of all the accusations. Now if the guys that cited your proof and told people to pm you for it are out of line I am sorry. I would like to see the proof that has been offered by multiple people.
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OK,I am wrong on the home addy/residence thing guess I was confused on that, But im still asking how did you come to determine both ip's Im still asking for you to publically present your' proof', did you get 2 emails and do traces or what. What is your proof sofar all we have is hearsay.
All we have about what a nice guy he is is also hear say, right?
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People can do some mean things with IP addresses. DDOS is a common problem nowadays. I don't blame him for not wanting to post the IP.
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All we have about what a nice guy he is is also hear say, right?
Bighorn: "indeed, nothing against Badboy, a true asset to the community".
Where do you stand, Bighorn?
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It is dangerous to share the method, that is why it is being withheld.
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I don't see what anyone could get from proving gunzo is badboy won't that just mean that you definitely know who beat you in a duel?
Why not just assume it is then move on? The dot wingman shade would never have the nuts to have a duel.
Breaking Midway's heart and solving a mystery that dates back to 2006.
Obviously, breaking Midway's heart would be the most worthwhile. :)
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OK,I am wrong on the home addy/residence thing guess I was confused on that, But im still asking how did you come to determine both ip's Im still asking for you to publically present your' proof', did you get 2 emails and do traces or what. What is your proof sofar all we have is hearsay.
I provided that little bit of info PRIVATELY to select persons to clear some doubts. It wasn't for peanut gallery. Nobody would talk about if not for attention hungry children like Midway, who did excellent job of keeping this thread on the first page.
Besides, I really think, if you have any questions, to contact Badboy instead. If he is as he presents himself, then I think he'll answer truthfully.
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Why would I tell you anything? Ask HTC.
If its a HTC concern why publically come out and denounce and say you have 'proof' in the first place and be cited by others? I just don't get it. I really don't care either way but I see one big witch hunt thread(again) multiple people citing proof then the proof not being accessible, and I question what its all about.
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All we have about what a nice guy he is is also hear say, right?
Yes that is correct but whether or not he is a nice guy isn't the problem its whether or not hes a greifer.
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It is dangerous to share the method, that is why it is being withheld.
Then take it up with HTC and refrain from posting severe accusations publicly without supporting them with hard facts. If HTC said no violations, then Badboy deserves better than your public vitriol, or at least an apology that lasts more than a day.
Even Bighorn came out in support of Badboy as a true asset to the community.
What facts do you have?
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It is dangerous to share the method, that is why it is being withheld.
YOu can google on how to do a trace, its all public domain apparently. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+I+trace+an+ip%3F (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+I+trace+an+ip%3F)
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I provided that little bit of info PRIVATELY to select persons to clear some doubts. It wasn't for peanut gallery. Nobody would talk about if not for attention hungry children like Midway, who did excellent job of keeping this thread on the first page.
Besides, I really think, if you have any questions, to contact Badboy instead. If he is as he presents himself, then I think he'll answer truthfully.
OK and those that you shared that info with PRIVATELY have turned around and used it PUBLICLY to accost someone in yet another witch hunt. You could say they are greifing the guy on the forums could you not, maybe just keeping this between you and HTC woulda been better.
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YOu can google on how to do a trace, its all public domain apparently. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+I+trace+an+ip%3F (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+I+trace+an+ip%3F)
Tracing is easy, getting IP from two griefers who vehemently deny any connection to each other, requires a tad more creativity. And the results are priceless. That's all I have to say.
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Tracing is easy, getting IP from two griefers who vehemently deny any connection to each other, requires a tad more creativity. And the results are priceless. That's all I have to say.
What did you get emails from both of them? Why share that info with people you KNOW are going to use it publically?
Edit: you know what I guess I am done here a greifer's a greifer in game and on forums I guess. Pot and kettle and all that jazz.
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Besides, I really think, if you have any questions, to contact Badboy instead. If he is as he presents himself, then I think he'll answer truthfully.
Perhaps the most succinct suggestion presented in this thread.
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OK and those that you shared that info with PRIVATELY have turned around and used it PUBLICLY to accost someone in yet another witch hunt. You could say they are greifing the guy on the forums could you not, maybe just keeping this between you and HTC woulda been better.
Well, one thing is for sure. You obviously don't seem to care at all about this :aok
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Perhaps the most succinct suggestion presented in this thread.
I did ask him. His exact quote was "Don't believe everything Bighorn tells you."
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Tracing is easy, getting IP from two griefers who vehemently deny any connection to each other, requires a tad more creativity. And the results are priceless. That's all I have to say.
Tell me how gunzo griefed anyone? They complained about he flew they lost they went to the da, they lost.
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OK, that's my last post about it.
OK and those that you shared that info with PRIVATELY have turned around and used it PUBLICLY to accost someone in yet another witch hunt. You could say they are greifing the guy on the forums could you not
What would you do, just watch an upstanding guy, like NrShida is, apologizing for being right? For him feeling ashamed because he dared to say something about griefers? Sorry, not me, nor the guys here I respect. The line has to be drawn somewhere. Besides, Gunzo, Badboy had at least 6 years of time (that I know of) to quit messing around.
maybe just keeping this between you and HTC woulda been better.
Yeah, maybe Gunzo didn't have to stretch his mouth so often and brag about it, then maybe, whole thing would be long forgotten...
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Well, one thing is for sure. You obviously don't seem to care at all about this :aok
I see another witch hunt that should have been handled quietly with HTC, that's what I care about the hypocrisy of these forums. Accusations fly publically, proof is cited publically then when asked for proof privacy is championed, bad behavior is decried yet displayed by some of those making the claims.
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Tell me how gunzo griefed anyone? They complained about he flew they lost they went to the da, they lost.
He certainly didn't grief me. I didn't like losing to him and him leaving the DA after one fight, but I appreciate the fight.
This is where the whole Badboy accusation started with Gunzo: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625003.html#msg4625003
I'm fine with Gunzo. He fights well and I came very close to beating him. That doesn't mean he's Badboy when he said he isn't and Nrshida offers no proof, and Bighorn clearly stated his support of Badboy's value to the community.
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He certainly didn't grief me. I didn't like losing to him and him leaving the DA after one fight, but I appreciate the fight.
This is where the whole Badboy accusation started with Gunzo: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349796.msg4625003.html#msg4625003
I'm fine with Gunzo. He fights well and I came very close to beating him. That doesn't mean he's Badboy when he said he isn't and Nrshida offers no proof, and Bighorn appears to support Badboy's value to the community.
LOL figures it came from the greatest thread ever known.
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He certainly didn't grief me...
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350719.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350719.0.html)
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350719.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350719.0.html)
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That was more than two weeks later when he got hold of my name. He offered to duel me for it, I lost. He gave me my name back at end of tour anyway. I don't call that griefing. He didn't vulch me on runways while in god mode. He fought well, and I came close to winning.
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So the "YOU SUCK MIDDY" is to be considered as a friendly hug then. mmmkay :bolt:
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This is also going to be my last post on the subject.
The reason the full evidence cannot be shared is because the method is part of the evidence and we do not want the method to become known because it is dangerous. It is dangerous because a resourceful person can often go the one step further and find the actual postal address. It would be ethically irresponsible to share this with a community which I am sorry to say contains members with low emotional intelligence and frequently spiteful personalities.
Regarding Badboy's shade griefing antics, I find it morally unacceptable for one player to ruin many other player's paid playing time. And for what? A player who uses AH to exorcise his own personality issues and insecurities about his own abilities through the medium of this game. It is not a question of fighting him. In my experience even some of the top sticks posting here have been unable to do this at the lake / MA. The best you can likely do is force a temporary stalemate. The fact that he drives players from the game and has been doing this kind of nonsense for around ten years should be cause to say enough is enough.
Clearly this has now become nothing more than a spectacle and frankly since Midway is beginning to insult my intelligence I propose that any meaningful use for these two threads has come to an end.
If HTC wishes to pursue this further then I suggest they contact myself or Bighorn privately.
And now really, 'nuff said.
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So the "YOU SUCK MIDDY" is to be considered as a friendly hug then. mmmkay :bolt:
I'm use to it, but will still pwn your Spitfire, on occasion. :)
Compared to the likes of Bruv, etc. unfortunately, there is still some truth in your statement, such things being relative. :frown:
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This is also going to be my last post on the subject.
The reason the full evidence cannot be shared is because the method is part of the evidence and we do not want the method to become known because it is dangerous. It is dangerous because a resourceful person can often go the one step further and find the actual postal address. It would be ethically irresponsible to share this with a community which I am sorry to say contains members with low emotional intelligence and frequently spiteful personalities.
Regarding Badboy's shade griefing antics, I find it morally unacceptable for one player to ruin many other player's paid playing time. And for what? A player who uses AH to exorcise his own personality issues and insecurities about his own abilities through the medium of this game. It is not a question of fighting him. In my experience even some of the top sticks posting here have been unable to do this at the lake / MA. The best you can likely do is force a temporary stalemate. The fact that he drives players from the game and has been doing this kind of nonsense for around ten years should be cause to say enough is enough.
Clearly this has now become nothing more than a spectacle and frankly since Midway is beginning to insult my intelligence I propose that any meaningful use for these two threads has come to an end.
If HTC wishes to pursue this further then I suggest they contact myself or Bighorn privately.
And now really, 'nuff said.
Well, if you refuse to post your proof, don't you think it be best if you keep your accusations where your proof is, with you, bighorn, and HTC instead of diatribing publicly? Isn't that clearly spelled out in the forum rules?
"8- Complaints about a player's behavior online should be emailed to support@hitechcreations.com rather than posted to this board."
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I'm use to it, but will still pwn your Spitfire, on occasion. :)
Good luck with this. Betcha, you will never, never EVER going to shoot "my" Spitfire.
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Well, if you refuse to post your proof, don't you think it be best if you keep your accusations where your proof is, with you, bighorn, and HTC instead of diatribing publicly? Isn't that clearly spelled out in the forum rules!
Well the irony in all this is it seems ego got out of hand when he publically made his accusation citing Gunzo's ego as what to his downfall, but I think he knows that so is now trying to keep it behind closed doors where it shoulda been in the first place. Jury's in Shida made mistake but hes ok with me. :cheers:
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Well, if you refuse to post your proof, don't you think it be best if you keep your accusations where your proof is, with you, bighorn, and HTC instead of diatribing publicly? Isn't that clearly spelled out in the forum rules?
"8- Complaints about a player's behavior online should be emailed to support@hitechcreations.com rather than posted to this board."
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Closing time, folks. You don't have to go home...but you can't stay here.
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Well the irony in all this is it seems ego got out of hand when he publically made his accusation citing Gunzo's ego as what to his downfall, but I think he knows that so is now trying to keep it behind closed doors where it shoulda been in the first place. Jury's in Shida made mistake but hes ok with me. :cheers:
I agree, I just hoped he'd recognize it as a mistake beyond the one day. But, we all have moment(s) of weakness and I can forgive him his. I just wish it would not have been so publicly vitriolic against Badboy, someone who has been nothing but nice and generous to me and a great asset to the community.
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Any ways, discussing with an idiot is just like playing chess with a pigeon. He topples the pieces, craps on the table, then happily jumps around that he won.
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I just wish it would not have been so publicly vitriolic against Badboy, someone who has been nothing but nice and generous to me and a great asset to the community.
Unfortunately every time I fly as Midway, I feel like I need a shower afterwards. I realize he will never learn. Even worse, after all these easy PhP kills I'm beginning to feel like a bully.
My guess is you couldn't even beat Midway ROFL!
Defends badboy/gunzo but not himself. :headscratch:
:noid
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Let's all call it a day on this thread, shall we?
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Let's all call it a day on this thread, shall we?
:salute
PS: :salute Badboy :rock
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Well the irony in all this is it seems ego got out of hand when he publically made his accusation citing Gunzo's ego as what to his downfall, but I think he knows that so is now trying to keep it behind closed doors where it shoulda been in the first place. Jury's in Shida made mistake but hes ok with me. :cheers:
So you weren't really done and you want to continue to grief the griefers? Maybe you should be griefing the guy who punted this thread to stir this all up again? See rule #10. This is a dumb thread to begin with and should have been locked 11 pages ago.
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It is dangerous to share the method, that is why it is being withheld.
hogwash
(i've always wanted to say that)