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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: 800nate800 on July 09, 2013, 03:45:28 PM
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Y U NO HUNTERING TIGER! HTC!
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As much as i want the Jagd Tiger. i think we have plenty of german armor in the game. Soviet armor we need. KV1s and KV2s and the KV-85. IS 2 i dont think should be on the priority list as it had the worst gun AP wise. compaired to its german counterparts. as far as i remember russian tanks did not have the best guns. but thats speculation that i dont want to argue over with the soviet armor types.
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-1 squeaker
+1 fullmetalbullet
;)
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KV-2 with the 152mm, can't wait to shoot down a B25 with one of those.
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we neesd this
(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss346/esmilodonte/Lockheed-VegaV-146VenturaPV-1B-34102GBM.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/esmilodonte/media/Lockheed-VegaV-146VenturaPV-1B-34102GBM.jpg.html)
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we neesd this
(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss346/esmilodonte/Lockheed-VegaV-146VenturaPV-1B-34102GBM.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/esmilodonte/media/Lockheed-VegaV-146VenturaPV-1B-34102GBM.jpg.html)
Id fly it Zach and redbull F*** off im tired of your chit!
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Id fly it Zach and redbull F*** off im tired of your chit!
How can you be upset at Grizz...err Redbull for calling you a squeaker when you so proudly claim the mantle of "The last of the great Aces high squeekerz"? (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/confused/confused-face-smiley-emoticon.gif)
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Panzerjager Tiger Ausf. B would be a total fantasy tank in AHII. The real "Jagdtiger" was not very successful and was maintenance intensive when it was used off road. Everything in AHII is off road, except sitting on concrete.
I vote no to the kiddie wish.
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Everything in AHII is off road, except sitting on concrete.
Except all tanks move at their on-road speeds, off-road in AH.
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How can you be upset at Grizz...err Redbull for calling you a squeaker when you so proudly claim the mantle of "The last of the great Aces high squeekerz"? (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/confused/confused-face-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Damnit Kazaa,,, err AKAK stop blowing my cover :furious :noid
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Panzerjager Tiger Ausf. B would be a total fantasy tank in AHII. The real "Jagdtiger" was not very successful and was maintenance intensive when it was used off road. Everything in AHII is off road, except sitting on concrete.
I vote no to the kiddie wish.
Except all tanks move at their on-road speeds, off-road in AH.
And since when is reliability a design consideration for AH? If it was something that was actually modeled then half the planes in the game would be scattered up and down the runways with various bits and pieces missing.
-1 for the Jadgedtiger
I do like the idea of adding some more Ruskie armor, I also don't think it would be a bad idea to add some tanks from countries that don't have any in game yet.
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Less GVs, more planes, better graphics, more combat.
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Less GVs, more planes, better graphics, more combat.
And the broken record of AH has once again started to play. :bhead
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moin
I think adding the Jagdtiger woundn t be a bad idea, because i see the game as a chalenge to compare diverent vehicles and airplanes with each other. Well using of the Jagdtiger will be realy hard in Aces High but thats why i want to try it some times :-).
in the other hand why not using the chalange of creating diverent vehicles of exsisting chasis, we will get faster more diverent vehicles. So the Jagdtiger, Sturmtiger, Brumbär or Hummel /Nashorn would be logikaly. The same counts for the T34 chasis, Su 85 would be logikaly next.
I knew its called Aces High, but implementing more gvs will bring some more people in the game because its easyer to learn and handel as Aircombat. Maybe, just a thought in a few years HT will creat a Account version were only the gvs will be for free and the full version with all kinds of aircrafts need to be payed. It maybe a chalange to keep the 2 weekers playing and after a wille thay will wenn thay learned the game thay become full players. Its just an idea how the future of AH will be positiv evected by more Ground vehicles.
cu christian
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Except all tanks move at their on-road speeds, off-road in AH.
I think you missed the point. The Jagdtiger had a gun that was especially sensitive to rough terrain. All terrain in AHII is smooth, even the off road terrain. The Jagdtiger was poorly built, poorly designed, and did not make much contribution to the war because of that. However, in AHII all of its weaknesses would not exist.
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I think you missed the point. The Jagdtiger had a gun that was especially sensitive to rough terrain. All terrain in AHII is smooth, even the off road terrain. The Jagdtiger was poorly built, poorly designed, and did not make much contribution to the war because of that. However, in AHII all of its weaknesses would not exist.
Quite arguable about the design. It was built as a heavy TD, with a specific purpose in mind: make sure your target dies, even if it's an IS-2 at long range.
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Quite arguable about the design. It was built as a heavy TD, with a specific purpose in mind: make sure your target dies, even if it's an IS-2 at long range.
It was poorly designed. It was over weight, had an under-powered engine, the gun needed to be re-calibrated after off road travel because of the 8 wheel Porsche type transmission which was unsuitable for off-road use (the more modern 9 wheel Porsche transmission was slightly better), the transmission and differentials were prone to breaking down and other myriad of issues that plagued it. All the result of poor design.
ack-ack
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elefant please :rofl
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It was poorly designed. It was over weight, had an under-powered engine, the gun needed to be re-calibrated after off road travel because of the 8 wheel Porsche type transmission which was unsuitable for off-road use (the more modern 9 wheel Porsche transmission was slightly better), the transmission and differentials were prone to breaking down and other myriad of issues that plagued it. All the result of poor design.
ack-ack
this argumentig could be used for Tiger II, Tiger I and Panthers. of corse the Jagtiger was the heviest. But in its devensive rool thay have some suces in the end of war. The Only unit that caused an ovicial Town Hand over to the U.S. was an Jagdtiger unit. You will finde some stuff at youtupe if you search the town name Iserlon and Jagdtiger. The Jagtiger were able to control at longrange a wide open area in this hilliside area.
You are right the Porsch suspension sucked and was aberdone after some testings. The porsch suspension was only planed to save some time during producing the hull.
cu christian
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It was poorly designed. It was over weight, had an under-powered engine, the gun needed to be re-calibrated after off road travel because of the 8 wheel Porsche type transmission which was unsuitable for off-road use (the more modern 9 wheel Porsche transmission was slightly better), the transmission and differentials were prone to breaking down and other myriad of issues that plagued it. All the result of poor design.
ack-ack
Sounds more like the Panther and Tiger with the numerous problems they had along with the King Tiger. Frankly with the JagdPanther we really don't need the Tiger version. Fact is its going to sit on concrete like most do with perk tanks who can't GV.
Without having the ability to engage long range (unless you plan on driving off concrete which 90% wont do) you have to climb up a hill around a base assuming you even have 4k to see in most maps you don't. So nobody is going to risk taking it off concrete.
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Sounds more like the Panther and Tiger with the numerous problems they had along with the King Tiger. Frankly with the JagdPanther we really don't need the Tiger version. Fact is its going to sit on concrete like most do with perk tanks who can't GV.
Without having the ability to engage long range (unless you plan on driving off concrete which 90% wont do) you have to climb up a hill around a base assuming you even have 4k to see in most maps you don't. So nobody is going to risk taking it off concrete.
Frankly i agree with it not really needed. but then again the 251 was not needed either compaired to the M3. i still think it should be added. think of a battle of the bulge special event. not very many air battles but lots of ground battles. sure alot of people want air combat and dogfighting, but really what i have seen is more and more people joining the gv scene. and plus ignoring one GV because we have another gv cappable of the same role is stupid. so i say add the jagdtiger, but only after russia and britain are added in higher numbers.
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think of a battle of the bulge special event. not very many air battles but lots of ground battles.
:lol special events with tanks end up being whine fests. besides, the "battle of the bulge" was german heavy infantry with heavy armor and artillery support against u.s. and british infantry, and there is no infantry here.
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:lol special events with tanks end up being whine fests. besides, the "battle of the bulge" was german heavy infantry with heavy armor and artillery support against u.s. and british infantry, and there is no infantry here.
Maybe back then. but i think it might change as we get new tanks and tank destroyers. think of late war eastern front aswell. if HTC does things right then more and more people may come over from games like WoT and preferably people from the forgotten hope 2 mod for BF2. sure this will probrably be torn apart and called stupid, but i have an open mind unlike many people in this game who think that it should be air only no ground and no infantry. well this game cannot expand untill you give something that others want. and in truth more people like the ground action in games then air action.
Thats why FPSs do so much better then air only combat games. i have heard that HTC wants to dive into the FPS or add infantry to Aces High sometime in the future(dont know when). to me thats a welcome thing. because it means more people will want to play because it will have something for everyone. me personally i love the ground game, i do better on the ground in aces high then in the air so the more vehicles and ground combat expansions HTC adds the better in my opinion.
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Maybe back then. but i think it might change as we get new tanks and tank destroyers. think of late war eastern front aswell. if HTC does things right then more and more people may come over from games like WoT and preferably people from the forgotten hope 2 mod for BF2. sure this will probrably be torn apart and called stupid, but i have an open mind unlike many people in this game who think that it should be air only no ground and no infantry. well this game cannot expand untill you give something that others want. and in truth more people like the ground action in games then air action.
Thats why FPSs do so much better then air only combat games. i have heard that HTC wants to dive into the FPS or add infantry to Aces High sometime in the future(dont know when). to me thats a welcome thing. because it means more people will want to play because it will have something for everyone. me personally i love the ground game, i do better on the ground in aces high then in the air so the more vehicles and ground combat expansions HTC adds the better in my opinion.
maybe not a "stupid" idea per se' but...your reasoning as to why fps games do so much better than air only combat games is a bit stupid. you don't appear to have taken several factors into consideration. pc only vs console and pc distribution is the big one. then there is the multiplayer factor, xbox live and the playstation network make it much easier than the pc world. if the battlefield, call of duty and medal of honor franchises had remained pc only, their sales figures would not be what they are.
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maybe not a "stupid" idea per se' but...your reasoning as to why fps games do so much better than air only combat games is a bit stupid. you don't appear to have taken several factors into consideration. pc only vs console and pc distribution is the big one. then there is the multiplayer factor, xbox live and the playstation network make it much easier than the pc world. if the battlefield, call of duty and medal of honor franchises had remained pc only, their sales figures would not be what they are.
The figures still stand though. regardless if its PC or console. FPS has done better then air combat games. even air only games on consoles have not beaten FPSs. But what we should be pointing out is that it is a good thing that HTC is expanding the ground combat. i like how they have changed things for the better regardless if the transmissions are not the way they used to be or the gunsights are not the old style. and tearing about 800nates wish for the jagdtiger saying thats its not neaded is shameful(not that im saying it was you who said it and im not pointing the finger at you at all gyrene, just telling that someone on this topic did say it.)
Now back to the topic, i think in my honest opinion the jagdtiger should be added in further down the road(not now) but later on even if they only made 80 of them and very very few made it to the end of the war intact. but right now i think as many do that russian and britain should be represented in the ground scene in a larger group.(more tanks and light armored vehicles maybe ever trucks for all sides.) but russia does need more tanks in aces high. so lets put the jagdtiger on the back burner for now and vote for the KV tanks(KV1, KV2, and KV-85.
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The figures still stand though. regardless if its PC or console. FPS has done better then air combat games. even air only games on consoles have not beaten FPSs.
don't give credit where it's not due, the figures are skewed. fps sales on pc started waning badly after the top 3 game franchises failed to deliver on gameplay not to mention cheaters spoiled the genre pretty badly, then the ps3 and xbox360 hit the streets and fps sales started soaring again, primarily due to the multiplayer factor...and subsequently the number of squeaker armchair generals increased exponentially. air combat games are too complex for the squeakers and the people who are interested in flying don't like to fly with game pads.
there really isn't any rational reason to add the jagdtiger...it's cool looking and that is the only merit it has.
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A couple quotes from Wikipedia.
The Jagdtiger was the heaviest armored fighting vehicle operationally used during World War II. The vehicle carried a 128 mm PaK 44 L/55 main gun, capable of out-ranging and defeating any fielded Allied tank. It saw service in small numbers from late 1944 to the end of the war on both the Western and Eastern Front. Tiger ace Otto Carius commanded a company of Jagdtigers. His post-war memoir provides a rare combat history of the Jagdtigers which had been under his command. Although 150 were ordered, only between 77 to 88 were produced.
Tiger ace Otto Carius commanded the second of three companies of Jagdtigers in Panzerjagerabteilung 512. His memoir Tigers in the Mud provides a rare combat history of the ten Jagdtigers under his command. He states that Jagdtigers were not utilized to their full potential due to several factors: Among them that Allied air supremacy made it difficult to move, the massive gun needed to be re-calibrated from jarring after traveling off-road for even short distances[5] (Note: This particular problem was attributed more to the eight wheel Porsche type suspension which proved unfit for off-road terrain, causing excessive vibrations which over a short period could throw the gun out of calibration. More modern 9 wheel Henschel type suspension system from the King Tiger was thought to have less of this particular problem: which type Carius commanded is unknown), it was slow, and transmissions and differentials broke down easily because the whole 72 tonne vehicle needed to rotate to traverse the gun. The massive gun had to be locked down, otherwise mounting brackets would have worn too much for accurate firing. Also a crew member had to exit the vehicle in combat and unlock the gun before firing.[6] However, he also recorded that a 128 mm projectile went through all the walls of a house and destroyed an American tank behind it.[7]
If you would like to read the article :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdtiger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdtiger)
Since we are talking about German vehicles, The Tiger, Panther G, and Tiger 2 were plagued with mechanical problems and were often abandoned by their crews.
I would like to see random engine stoppage or limits on how far these tanks can travel before their engine or transmission failed. Supplies could bring them back into service. It would add to the realism for these particular GV's.
Any other tanks with mechanical problems would suffer the same fate and can call out for supplies.
I like 800Nates suggestion. It would be a good addition to the game and should carry a perk price of 200 or more when the perk bonus is 1.0.
:aok +1
:salute
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Jagdtiger-Aberdeen.00059se8.jpg)
Good looking tank. ;)
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don't give credit where it's not due, the figures are skewed. fps sales on pc started waning badly after the top 3 game franchises failed to deliver on gameplay not to mention cheaters spoiled the genre pretty badly, then the ps3 and xbox360 hit the streets and fps sales started soaring again, primarily due to the multiplayer factor...and subsequently the number of squeaker armchair generals increased exponentially. air combat games are too complex for the squeakers and the people who are interested in flying don't like to fly with game pads.
Yep.
ack-ack
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Y U NO HUNTERING TIGER! HTC!
NO! YOU KEEP THAT MONSTER AWAY!
The instant any JagTiger is seen, there will be many bombs, far worse than the KT...
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NO! YOU KEEP THAT MONSTER AWAY!
The instant any JagTiger is seen, there will be many bombs, far worse than the KT...
look how many bombs the king tiger takes!
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look how many bombs the king tiger takes!
Only takes one 1,000lbs. bomb to take out a Tiger II. A 500 pounder should also be sufficient and a Big F**kin' Bomb on the Ju-87D-3 is way more than enough, don't even need a direct hit with that one.
ack-ack
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Only takes one 1,000lbs. bomb to take out a Tiger II. A 500 pounder should also be sufficient and a Big F**kin' Bomb on the Ju-87D-3 is way more than enough, don't even need a direct hit with that one.
ack-ack
Always fun to lob these a wirbs :banana:
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To be fair, the Jadgtiger would be a nice big slow bombing target. Also if would be fun to watch it
die the death of 1000 papercuts as it tried to track a bunch of Shermans with no turret as they attempt
to nibble it to death :lol
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To be fair, the Jadgtiger would be a nice big slow bombing target. Also if would be fun to watch it
die the death of 1000 papercuts as it tried to track a bunch of Shermans with no turret as they attempt
to nibble it to death :lol
:rofl
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moin
the chanlange of the Jagdtiger is to fire from positions were bombig aircrafts normaly dont search for tanks. thay mostly bomb on targets thay finde fast. that would be a kind of survival taktik in that vehicle. I use this taktik in kingtiger too.
cu christian
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moin
the chanlange of the Jagdtiger is to fire from positions were bombig aircrafts normaly dont search for tanks. thay mostly bomb on targets thay finde fast. that would be a kind of survival taktik in that vehicle. I use this taktik in kingtiger too.
cu christian
does it actually work? I used to just watch for the big yellow tracer from any tanks. better than icon to give away a GV's position.
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does it actually work? I used to just watch for the big yellow tracer from any tanks. better than icon to give away a GV's position.
For level bombers, it works fantastic. Since they rely on the long range images to line up their run, all you have to do is hide under a tree, or offset yourself a few hundred yards to either side of their line of travel.
For JABOs it's harder, since they target individual tanks, as opposed to the longest line of them they can find. But if you put yourself somewhere really weird, and pay attention to their view, you could probably stay hidden for a while.
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moin
jepp exat, you need to knew what are you doing, if you keep shooting if enemy jabos are al around its your own foult if your perk ride get lost. You minimize your risk to loos it by nearly 80% in Aces high if you pay attention to what are in air.
Exspezialy for the Jagdtiger, if you stay way behind of a tankfight, the most enemys will not knew what did them kill. And if than an angry anemy come to the place with a jabo he will look around and will only finde the other easy targets and 80% cant resist to drop of them.
Surviving in perk tanks isn t hard if you knew how and the the most important, you need to have a lot of disziplin, i always die when i do stuff against my own ruels lol.
cu christian