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Title: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: BBP on July 22, 2013, 12:33:50 PM
Would it be possible to change the color of the plane used on the map. The plane that is used to designate what base we are on and as we navigate around the map. I also find it to be to small. So a larger different colored plane on the map would be greatly appreciated. I think it would help speed things up for players. The color of the current plane is a grey/white combination. It blends in with so many things on the map, I find myself looking for it.  At times I'm looking in a spot not even near the plane.  If no one else has this problem I guess I will have to live with it because I know it takes a group effort to get a change made like this. If there is enough support for my suggestion lets please "GET ER DONE!"  :bhead  :bhead  :bhead Where is that plane again?

Thanks,
KIMO
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: ImADot on July 22, 2013, 12:47:10 PM
I would like to see the color of the player icon on the map to be adjustable, just like you can adjust the colors of other GUI items. Until then, just know that every time the clipboard is opened, your location is centered on the map. If you keep the clipboard open a lot, just close it and re-open it to get yourself centered.

I would actually like to see the player icon either smaller or be an outline. There are many times that I'm over my flashing base or in a GV near my flashing town, but cannot tell if the town stops flashing because my plane icon on the map is covering the town dot.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 22, 2013, 01:36:28 PM
Never had a problem, myself. I suppose there could be options (kinda like gunsights). But, til then, if you 'lose' where you are you can always close and open the map and you'll be dead center .... then adjust using your map placement, bearing in mind where you moved it.  :)
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: BBP on July 22, 2013, 02:09:53 PM
See what I mean. Unnecessary steps that waste time and slow players down.  A colored, or outlined plane would solve the problem Pronto, right KimoSabe?

 :rofl
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: gyrene81 on July 22, 2013, 02:16:19 PM
bifocals...

(http://www.nutterwick.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/thick_glasses.jpg)
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 22, 2013, 02:17:54 PM
See what I mean. Unnecessary steps that waste time and slow players down.  A colored, or outlined plane would solve the problem Pronto, right KimoSabe?

 :rofl

I don't have your problem, sorry. Not seeing how such could take so much of my time or slow me down even if I did lose the plane icon. I don't imagine I would open the map in the middle of an engagement, but if I did, my plane icon would be in the middle. Unless I move it from the middle, it'll still be there. If I move it from the middle and I leave my map open, for some reason, it'll be wherever I moved it. Twas only a suggestion for those that share your .... problem (even then, it's not a case of re-chiseling the map out of stone) .... amigo.  :)
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 22, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
bifocals...

(http://www.nutterwick.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/thick_glasses.jpg)


Um .... bottlefocals.  :D
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: EskimoJoe on July 22, 2013, 03:52:27 PM
How about a transparency slider from, say, 20% to 100% opacity?
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: BBP on July 22, 2013, 04:23:19 PM
That would work! You open the map small enough to fly with it. Run the magnification out to full and the plane at best is the size of an ant. And a grey ant on a grey map. Works real well NOT!!!


KIMO
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Easyscor on July 22, 2013, 04:24:26 PM
My wish would be a key mapping to toggle the player's plane icon on and off.
By default, the key function wouldn't be enabled/mapped.

Edit:
Oh, and BBP, flashing the little plane would make it much easier to spot.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 22, 2013, 04:27:35 PM
That would work! You open the map small enough to fly with it. Run the magnification out to full and the plane at best is the size of an ant. And a grey ant on a grey map. Works real well NOT!!!


KIMO

Don't fly with you map open. (And don't map with your fly open.)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/thumb/7/7b/1941_screenshot.png/280px-1941_screenshot.png)

Seriously, what are you really requesting now, map transparency? Erg. :)
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: aztec on July 22, 2013, 04:48:13 PM
Close the map and reopen...your icon will be dead center, look at dead center of your map.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: BBP on July 22, 2013, 06:01:18 PM
I know that! Everyone knows that!  If you fighting on a corner or off center position it won't reopen where you were. Now you have to go find your position of where you where fighting.
And that's not my point or issue. Even if it's in the middle of the map after closing and opening, ITS STILL HARD TO SEE!  Its very often BLENDS into the color of the map. This is such a little issue. Thanks for the support guys.

KIMO. :cry
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 22, 2013, 06:04:52 PM
ITS STILL HARD TO SEE!  Its very often BLENDS into the color of the map.

I admit, I tried a dozen maps or so to see how hard it was to see. It was easy to see. I might have missed the map you mean. Which map are we talking about?
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: BBP on July 22, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
I have trouble on almost every map. And you can't just go test a map Arlo.  It happens in the heat of battle after playing on it for 4-6 hours. A flashing plane would work great. I'm sure my eye site is part of the issue, but I can't be the only player with this problem.  I wonder how well you could read the map with a black eye Arlo? :D :banana: :banana: :banana: :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 22, 2013, 06:16:57 PM
I have trouble on almost every map. And you can't just go test a map Arlo.  It happens in the heat of battle after playing on it for 4-6 hours. A flashing plane would work great. I'm sure my eye site is part of the issue, but I can't be the only player with this problem.  I wonder how well you could read the map with a black eye Arlo? :D :banana: :banana: :banana: :rofl :rofl :rofl

Well, I dunno, BBP. I'm not one to get a black eye (at least not in the last thirty plus years) nor am I one to post later about how the game should be improved to help me see it with a black eye.

What I would recommend, however, is to not shrink your map and leave it up. Even if your plane marker/icon was flashing like a Las Vegas casino sign, knowing where it's at on your mini-map in relation to the mini-map terrain features, bases, enemy and targets may still be a chore after 4-6 hours. Being comfortable with hitting the ESC key to bring up your map as a moment's notice and having it enlarged enough to read may serve you better.  :D :salute
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Zoney on July 22, 2013, 06:38:33 PM
I have trouble on almost every map. And you can't just go test a map Arlo.  It happens in the heat of battle after playing on it for 4-6 hours. A flashing plane would work great. I'm sure my eye site is part of the issue, but I can't be the only player with this problem.  I wonder how well you could read the map with a black eye Arlo? :D :banana: :banana: :banana: :rofl :rofl :rofl

I would like to disagree with you BBP but i don't want to get beat up.  On the off chance that I can voice my opinion, you're being silly.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: BBP on July 22, 2013, 06:45:43 PM
I fly with the map shrunk while flying so I can see the enemy approaching me. I may be engaged in combat and this helps while fighting. How many times have I been told to do this by the better players in the game? As I have pointed out several times in previous post ....... its not just knowing where my plane is necessarily, its being able to see it because it blends in. I'm only presenting this to help those of us who don't see it well.



Arlo, no need to reply. I get what your saying.



Kimo :pray :pray :pray
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: BBP on July 22, 2013, 06:48:50 PM
Well Zoney, If I can improve the game and be silly, I'll go for it. You must be 18 right?  20/20 ? :eek:


KIMO
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Zoney on July 22, 2013, 06:52:32 PM
Well Zoney, If I can improve the game and be silly, I'll go for it. You must be 18 right?  20/20 ? :eek:


KIMO

Actually, no.  I'm 58 and nearsighted.  Uncorrected I'm 420/20.  Corrected to 40/20.  Vision slowly degenerating because I have an eye disease "Retinitus pigmentosis".  This will be what finally takes away the game I love playing so much.  Any more questions sir ?
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 22, 2013, 06:53:46 PM
How many times have I been told to do this by the better players in the game?

My deepest apologies for replying ... but .... do you happen to recall the CPIDs of some of them?

Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 22, 2013, 06:54:20 PM
Actually, no.  I'm 58 and nearsighted.  Uncorrected I'm 420/20.  Corrected to 40/200.  Vision slowly degenerating because I have an eye disease "Retinitus pigmentosis".  This will be what finally takes away the game I love playing so much.  Any more questions sir ?

 :(
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: BBP on July 22, 2013, 07:01:21 PM
I give up. I was told to come here for help by an admin. I'll let him know how helpful it was. I've gotten nothing but arguments and beaten up. Zoney, sorry to hear about your situation, but I can top that sir. Arlo you can continue blabing your head off. I"M DONE!


KIMO!
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 22, 2013, 07:02:42 PM
 :headscratch:

Nice John Wayne avatar?

 :salute
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Zoney on July 22, 2013, 07:15:15 PM
I give up. I was told to come here for help by an admin. I'll let him know how helpful it was. I've gotten nothing but arguments and beaten up. Zoney, sorry to hear about your situation, but I can top that sir. Arlo you can continue blabing your head off. I"M DONE!


KIMO!

Hey buddy.  Just because I don't agree with you does not mean we can't be friends.  If you want something then it's up to you to do as you have, post a wish in the wish list.  I didn't say I don't want you to have it, I just don't agree that it is neccessary.  That "Dale" guy and his minions will ultimately give value to your wish and if they determine it has value then they most likely will make the changes you seek.

I do have one question for you though.  If your map is shrunk way down as you say then what information in it is of value?  The direction you are going?
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 22, 2013, 07:29:22 PM
I suspect the other players recommending this to him use it kinda like a mini-radar. Like other games where you can put up a semi-transparent HUD to track enemy you can't otherwise visually track. I suspect Dale and co. would be adverse to this. They made concession in live-time unit tracking on the map, as it is (for practical game-play). But if players are using the map shrunk down to be an 'SA' radar, I'd be recommending guns be locked on safety whenever the map is up.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: aztec on July 23, 2013, 05:19:47 PM
I know that! Everyone knows that!  If you fighting on a corner or off center position it won't reopen where you were. Now you have to go find your position of where you where fighting.
And that's not my point or issue. Even if it's in the middle of the map after closing and opening, ITS STILL HARD TO SEE!  Its very often BLENDS into the color of the map. This is such a little issue. Thanks for the support guys.

KIMO. :cry
I thought I was being helpful. I'm very sorry  I made you cry.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Scca on July 26, 2013, 03:10:37 PM
Do you still have an issue with seeing the plane when you zoom the map in?  I have trouble when the map is way out, but once I zoom in, it's not an issue.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: BBP on July 27, 2013, 12:27:00 AM
I have trouble seeing the plane when I shrink the map to make it where I can fly with it open. I find it very valuable to do so. You would be surprised how many times you save yourself from being blindsided with the map open.  About a 2 inch square. Its easy to see that red dot coming for you. But what I have trouble with is as you fly around your plane moves around the map. It can get over the City or most often over the numbers designating the area of the map sector. Or it can just get over a dark colored portion of the map.  I can still see the plane but not what direction its going in. So I can't tell if I'm flying at the Cons or away from them. Of course by the time you figure it out your surrounded by the MoFo's. I think I'm stating my problem with the plane a little more clearly this time. I apologize for not doing so in my first post about it.

KIMO  :rock
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Tank-Ace on July 27, 2013, 12:52:44 AM
I have trouble seeing the plane when I shrink the map to make it where I can fly with it open. I find it very valuable to do so. You would be surprised how many times you save yourself from being blindsided with the map open.  About a 2 inch square. Its easy to see that red dot coming for you. But what I have trouble with is as you fly around your plane moves around the map. It can get over the City or most often over the numbers designating the area of the map sector. Or it can just get over a dark colored portion of the map.  I can still see the plane but not what direction its going in. So I can't tell if I'm flying at the Cons or away from them. Of course by the time you figure it out your surrounded by the MoFo's. I think I'm stating my problem with the plane a little more clearly this time. I apologize for not doing so in my first post about it.

KIMO  :rock

Or, you know, you could check your six once in a while  :noid.


What I do is this: Leave map at full size, zoom in almost all the way, and close it. Every time I get a break, open the map up and scan it for incoming red blotches, which signal an STD... err, horde.


Now whoever told you to keep your map open is an idiot. Don't blindly follow advice because someone told you to do it. Try it, form your own opinion, do what works best for you. But even more importantly, don't reject other advice out of hand because it doesn't match up with the first thing you heard.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: wrench on July 27, 2013, 03:25:11 AM
Here's one scenario where I have problem seeing plane icon on map.


Meanwhile, with the goal of landing in mind, precious time has passed and now may not make a nearby base. Or enemy has spotted my disabled smoking plane and zooms in for easy kill.

If the plane icon was easily discernible from all the other clutter on the map I could have made a much quicker decision with less risk to landing successfully.

So...how can the plane icon be seen over all the other clutter?

Does this capture the essence of this wish and the other wish about which way icon is pointing?
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 27, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Could you mention a specific map that is causing your icon to be lost in all the clutter (bearing in mind that re-opening the map always brings it up with your plane position in the middle)? I looked at more than a dozen maps after BBP mentioned his difficulty in losing the icon on a 2 inch magnification of the map (such being way too low a magnification to be efficient - yet ... I could always make out the aircraft icon, easily).
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: surfinn on July 27, 2013, 07:48:44 AM
I had this problem in AvA once. They had a winter map and you could not see your icon at all it blended in so well with the terrain on the map. Would have loved to been able to change the icon color of mine on the map. Finally got frustrated and went back to the MA. Cant imagine that it would be that difficult to give us the option of colors for the map icon.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 27, 2013, 08:09:30 AM
One of the maps I tried was the 'AHRHINEWIN.EXE' (Rhine winter).

Depending on what the player activates or not on the map (radar, base names,
vehicle spawns, base alts, etc) the player aircraft icon should still be fairly easy
to locate at a decent magnification.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img441/707/gy43.png)

Anyone in the game that is recommending to new players that they keep their
clipboard/maps open at an extremely small magnification either doesn't actually
understand the impracticality of such or are using this in lieu of the old 'alt f4' prank.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img825/9383/mexh.png)(http://imageshack.us/a/img836/8448/y0hx.png)

Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: surfinn on July 27, 2013, 08:16:44 AM
This one was different. It had a winter camo look to it without the terrain features the whole thing from the clip board was the same color as your icon with black lines mixed in to give it a winter camo look. It may have been a custom map just for the AVA. Again though its the only time I've had that problem. If it takes a lot of time to give us a color option then your right its not worth it but how hard can it be to give us that option? I'm not a programmer so I honestly don't know  but I would think it would be something simple to do.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 27, 2013, 08:29:28 AM
Are you talking about a shader/color option for the player to control? Guess there's that.
What's a 'good color' on one map may not be for another. And imagine changing it to
red and the confusion of whether an enemy icon is on top of you or not? Enemy, friendly
and other GUI colors could be changed and that could require further self-icon changes.

Guess I'm just not understanding the 'small clipboard' trend.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: surfinn on July 27, 2013, 09:14:02 AM
Only time ever I've had a problem with it so honestly no big deal to me personally but It would be cool if you could either shade it from white to black or have color options.
If its easy to do if it takes a lot of time to implement then its not worth it.
Title: Re: WHERE IS THE PLANE ON THE MAP?
Post by: Arlo on July 27, 2013, 09:19:23 AM
Only time ever I've had a problem with it so honestly no big deal to me personally but It would be cool if you could either shade it from white to black or have color options.
If its easy to do if it takes a lot of time to implement then its not worth it.

I honestly don't know how easy or hard it would be to implement.